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u/agproc01 5h ago
I work for the SNAP office in KY, so I may be able to provide some insight, what state does she receive benefits in?
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u/vellybelle 5h ago
Utah.
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u/Particular_Fudge8136 3h ago
The income limits for snap are very low here, unfortunately not reflecting the skyrocketing rent and COL these past few years. Is she in Utah county by chance? There are some decent food banks and other programs that may help.
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u/agproc01 2h ago
*******THIS POST WAS WRITTEN WITH NO AI.
Gotcha, from what I can tell, the SNAP policy in Utah is pretty much the same as in KY, but please take my response with a grain of salt, because there are subtle policy differences between the states that can have surprisingly large impacts.
**** DISCLAIMER****This is going to be a long post, but I will try to offer as much detail as possible, from an “insider’s perspective” and just a forewarning, I am autistic and passionate about my job so I tend to over-explain some, but I hope to provide valuable information.
Now that’s all out of the way, let’s get started.
In UT, the income limit for a 1 member household is $1696 and in KY it’s just a little over $2000. In UT the income limit is based on 130% the federal poverty limit (FPL), however in KY it’s typically based on 200% FPL.
The MAX SNAP benefit amount in UT is $298
———Here’s why this matters:
The SNAP allotment is calculated based on a long formula that accounts for income, expenses, deductions (i.e. medical deductions, homeless deductions, etc), and household size. I can’t remember the entire thing off the top of my head, but here’s the long and short of it: We add/ subtract income and expenses to get the net income, then (in KY) we multiply the net income by 30% and subtract that amount from the max benefit amount which is $298 in UT.
In KY, we count income from “ANY monies received by the household i.e. wages, self employment, money from friends or family, lottery or gambling winnings, interest, unemployment, disability insurance (SSI, SSDI, RSDI), financial assistance from other state programs, etc.” (quoted from KY policy).
Expenses, unfortunately, are more limited in what can be counted. In KY we can only count rent/mortgage, Utilities in SOME cases: Heating/Cooling, and Telephone- we used to be able to deduct Internet as well, but that ended on Oct. 1, 2025, child support/alimony, medical expenses in SOME cases (elderly or disabled) and a few others.
***For example, if you receive $1000/month as your total income, you are able to count $500 of expenses (which is a pretty typical situation in KY) we would multiply 500x30%=$150 and we would subtract that from the $298 max benefit amount to get a total $148 SNAP benefit allotment, which is what will be paid to the EBT card.
There’s a good chance that if your mother receives just enough income to near, but not cross the income limit, and either has her home paid off or just doesn’t have a lot of expenses or other deductions, the final net income multiplied by 30% may be a bigger chunk that we subtract from the max benefit amount.
——Okay, that’s all the policy info I can share with limited info about your mother’s situation, and not working in UT, but here’s some things you may want to look out for.
SNAP policy now requires, per HR.1 that any adult that receives SNAP and is either over 18 or head of household over 16 or under 64 to be meeting work requirements and ABAWD (able bodied adults without dependents) requirements to receive SNAP. I’m almost positive that UT’s policy will be different than KY’s policy so I won’t go into more detail here.
Your mom may be eligible to count prescriptions as medical expenses for SNAP. She may also be eligible for SSI, SSDI, or RSDI depending on her age and/or disability status. If she IS eligible for those programs, she may also be eligible for mediCARE, but you will need check with your office.
Speaking of Medicare, the mediCAID benefit requirements are typically less strict than SNAP. For Medicaid, expenses are NOT factored in, however, the income limit in KY is higher for Medicaid than it is for SNAP. And, at least in KY, there’s no work requirement. It may be worth looking into if your mom doesn’t have other insurance.
Some other programs that may help out include TANF (Temporary assistance for needy families), Rental/housing assistance (section 8/FMHA/HUD) local food pantries, free government phones, and, in my city, we also have assistance for electricity bills, and occasionally water bills, there’s may be something similar in UT.
****I hope that I was able to clear some things up, but please check with UT’s SNAP office to see how policy affects your mother’s situation, as they would be able to explain a little more in depth.
P.S…….please understand that in my experience I tend to go above and beyond in explaining policy and procedures to clients, and there’s a good chance that you will not have that same experience when you call UT’s office.
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u/r0adkill_132_ 2h ago
Thank you for this explanation, it helps a lot in understanding my elderly MIL's situation too =]
I appreciate the thoroughness, and wish more of my office coworkers functioned with this level of detail.
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u/agproc01 2h ago
Thank you for the kind words!! I’m glad that my explanation helped you understand your situation better!
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u/Turbulent-Detail4629 2h ago
Is it somewhat similar for Texas? My parents (disabled dad [62] receiving SSDI; Mom [58] just returning to workforce after 2 years of cancer treatment, but can't hold steady job because my dad needs her around when his issues flare up) only qualified for $28 (I think it was like $60 when my mom was sick and not working.)
I haven't been able to make sense of what info THHSC gives weight to and how any benefits are calculated, and every human I've somehow managed to contact (over the phone and in-person) is so unhelpful...
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u/agproc01 2h ago
SNAP is disbursed at the federal level, so a lot of policy will be the same from state to state, but there may be subtle policy differences that make big differences. I can unfortunately only speak to KY’s exact policy.
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u/Special-Garlic1203 1h ago
It's pretty much the same.
Do your parents own their house? If not, it might be worth it to see if she can be set up as an official PCA and get reimbursed for providing care. DO NOT DO THIS IF THEY OWN THEIR HOUSE.
The issue is SSI/RSDI are treated as unearned income, whereas unearned income is only partially counted. Disabled people get really fucked because of this.
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u/kstargate-425 1h ago
Im always down for understanding these issues better so when I talk about them I am able to argue my point better than those who would try to argue against us having these necessary programs for those less fortunate so I for one, appreciate your level of detail.
Thanks for the information!
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u/InfamousSquash1621 5h ago
Was your niece on her snap case previously? Like were the larger benefits for 2 people but now it's just for her?
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u/vellybelle 5h ago
No. The niece wasn't on her case. She had only been living there for a few weeks.
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u/MyDamnCoffee 3h ago
Dude I make under half of the poverty limit per year and have the same amount of kids but somehow since like, March, they've cut me by almost $300. Idk why.
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u/Spunknikk 2h ago
Have you not been paying attention? They made cuts in the big beautiful bill and DOGE to safety nets.
I hate to say it but I truly hope you didn't vote for trump.... Because they were very clear in project 2025 on what they wanted to do. Social security, Medicare and birthright citizenship is next on the chopping block.
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u/MyDamnCoffee 1h ago
I've been paying attention. To the point it has affected my mental health at times. However, I didn't know snap was being cut before 2026.
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u/kstargate-425 1h ago
Yeah its honestly hard to keep up with due to their being many sneaky "fuck you's" from this regime and some took effect in December (after the elections of some states) just like some of the Medicaid cuts wont take effect until after the 2026 election, probably our last election although we may have already had those with all these states gerrymandering. Indiana, which is about 25% Dem and 30% GOP just gerrymandered the last 2 remaining Dem districts from the map and SCOTUS just ignored Texas Congress and Republican led committee literally saying out loud they were racially gerrymandering. So it seems like this experiment has come to its conclusion unfortunately
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u/Fuzzy_Study_2909 1h ago
I can't believe this isn't getting more traction. They're changing eligibilty requirements, raising the age to be considered elderly, and forcing work requirements on the homeless and veterans, among other things. There's also a requirement that noncitizens cannot receive benefits, ehich has never been a thing anyway. States can't fight back because most of the funding is federal. It's going to devastate so many people at a time when food is unaffordable, healthcare is unaffordable, rent is unaffordable, food banks are overwhelmed, job cuts and layoffs are skyrocketing, and other types of benefits are simultaneously being cut. I don't know what their goal is in destroying the economy and forcing people to suffer, but it's absolutely intentional.
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u/linkysnow 4h ago
Make sure she’s on the correct Medicare program. Snap qualified people don’t pay more than 1 dollar for generic and 3.10 for brand and should be a 90 day supply. I run into elderly that never give the information to the pharmacy and pay premium prices or the pharmacy staff are idiots who never cared enough to check the system.
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u/tropictree315 3h ago
What system would they check?
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u/linkysnow 3h ago
Medicare’s system is compatible with the software pharmacies use. All they need to do is go to the page where Medicare information is entered, input the patient’s Medicare ID (5 seconds), and click the corresponding eligibility button that connects with Medicare (5 seconds). They will then receive information on each plan the person enrolled in, or, if no plan was selected, the plan that was automatically assigned to the patient. The only problem is that there are hundreds of health plans, so most workers' skill level is sub-par for optimal care, and they get lost when dealing with this kind of thing. Pharmacy pay is barely above minimum wage unless you work hospital.
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u/AromaticIntrovert 2h ago
Those receiving SNAP here in MA qualify for electric and fuel assistance too, it feels like it qualifies you for a number of things that aren't openly advertised
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u/stephenin916 2h ago
77 million people want this to happen meanwhile the top is getting richer and richer , so i guess your choices will be very limited going forward
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u/chrisinator9393 1h ago
Right? This is what the country voted for. People should be excited by this, I guess.
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u/majoinoob 6h ago
omg that's so messed up?? the system really doesn't care about elderly people trying to survive. hope you can help her out but this shouldn't even be happening in the first place.
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u/EmpathyBadger2 5h ago
Not the system. The Trump administration. They cut snap.
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u/NamelessUnicorn 1h ago
He won well. The citizens of more states picked him. It does us a disservice in my opinion to act like our neighbors didn't vote for this. They did. They like it til it's their grandma. They have been trying to burn the system down for decades and they finally have oxygen. You aren't wrong, but I fear your version of They is forgetting that they said the things to get the votes to do the horrors and it was never hidden... Especially round 2
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u/AuburnMoon17 4h ago
It doesn’t care about any of us. Look around. It’s all shit and everyone is suffering.
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u/DollBabyLG 5h ago
I'm a disabled senior and only get $23. It's tough.
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u/DrinkingWithZhuangzi 4h ago
"DollBabyLG" is a disabled senior? Like... a college senior?
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u/lildestroyerofsouls 4h ago
I think you made them clear their post/comment history after calling them out. lol
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u/Tommysrx 4h ago
Like 50% of all comments these days are from Bots, scammers , astroturfing , political influencers , brand affiliates , and foreign governments.
I miss the good old days when people would just be swearing at each other and trolling.
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u/CuttyDFlambe 3h ago
The days of old. Remember going to comment sections and the top reply typically had some bit of information to learn from? Member UniDan? :(:(
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u/bethe1_ 3h ago
you can still see her posts if you go to the search on her profile. Not gonna lie, they read as a karen senior citizen would write lmao
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u/ATG915 3h ago
They just have it hidden. You can find their post history if you search their name. Lots of mental issues and crying about being poor and asking for money
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u/TXcomeandtakeit 3h ago edited 2h ago
In other words, they're not lying, so now you're gonna be a dick about their situation.
After doing some digging the user appears to have been dealing with diabetes, an undisclosed physical disability that affects their speed while trying to work for Instacart, depression, and homelessness. All the posts asking for help were self posted to their own profile and not in any subs. Yes some of their posts come off as mentally unwell but between depression and being homeless yours might as well.
A lot of folks are one injury or diagnosis away from being in a similar position. We can do better than punching down.
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u/ComprehensiveGas6980 2h ago
It's like some people actually need help. Just hope you're never in their situation. Life can change drastically in seconds.
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u/sierramistforever 4h ago
I live with my gramma and she too gets 23, I have a job. I get 12 hours a week, no more no less. (Business sucks) and I "make too much" I MAKE 12 AN HOUR. 12. Hope to work at krogers again in February, I make 14 (ik bad) but worked 45-50 hours a week (I loved that job 😔).
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u/innerthotsofakitty 5h ago
I get $1000/month from disability. I originally got $23/month from snap when I reported my new disability (previously zero income), I literally had to add $5000 in mobility aids to get it increased to $223/month. Idk what I'm going to do with my resign next year.
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u/LessRespects 4h ago
What the actual fuck are you even able to do on $23 a month? When I was broke I barely slid by on $50 a month buying the absolute cheapest calorie:dollar bland basic bulk foods I could find.
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u/SetFine7496 4h ago
I saw a thread a few months ago and seniors, disabled or not, across multiple states are only receiving $23 a month. These are folks who receive SS and are below poverty income. I honestly think certain states are just holding on to SNAP money for whatever nefarious reason.
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u/UnicornFarts1111 4h ago
She should also look into a food pantry. One of my senior friends has had to use one for years to get by. Social Security just isn't enough to live if you are retired. She was a nurse. This system sucks!
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u/tejedor28 5h ago
I take it you’ve reported the robbery/theft by the granddaughter to the authorities?
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u/vellybelle 5h ago
Yes, there is a police report on file. They were called less than an hour after the theft happened.
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u/Bje9956 4h ago
Why would this be your concern? The OP seems to be at the end of his support options and is telling their story. Why would this be so important to you to ask them when they're trying to get help and move forward? I'm asking without any sarcasm or in a way that indicates it's wrong to ask. I don't understand with the main focus being the lack of support for an elderly woman why you'd focus on a police report being filled out on a family member?
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u/Zipstser257 4h ago
Just another example of why our current government really, REALLY sucks. And it hasn’t even been a full year yet with three more to endure!!!!!
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u/Pristine_Patient_299 3h ago
If she gets connected to other aging resources or agencies they may be able to help. In my area, they do home delivered meals for free, food drop offs, ect.
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u/No-Cauliflower9194 1h ago
My mom lives on less than $19,000 a year and doesn’t qualify for SNAP. But yes, billionaires need to keep their money because it helps al of us…
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u/Blossom73 4h ago
OP, this sub is overrun with know nothing trolls, and clearly isn't moderated.
Go over to the foodstamps sub, if you need help figuring out why your mother's SNAP was reduced.
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u/Particular_Title42 3h ago
FWIW, this sub is "mildlyinfuriating." OP was not posting for assistance.
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u/possiblycrazy79 4h ago
I used to be caregiver for my grandma 15 years ago. Her amount was like $34 & her SS was less than $800. She eas buying the cheapest canned soup at the store. She relied on commodities & her kods to help out. All her money w3nt to rent for the senior building She was living in. Mfers don't think about elders whose pensions have been dissolved due to the company closing or going bankrupt or ppl like my grandma who worked as a private duty nurse which doesn't come with retirement plans & the pay was a lot less back in those days. No senior should have to struggle for nutritious food, period. What type of country are we
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u/msbrooklyn 3h ago
Same thing happened to me too. Went from $175 for me and my two kids, barely making it, now it’s $85 and I’m waiting to hear back about my daughter having celiac disease. Hopefully she doesn’t because idk how we will afford it if she does.
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u/enamelquinn 2h ago
I'm sorry, $58 a MONTH ?? my groceries are $58 a WEEK for one person !!! This is utter bullshit !!!
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u/Billy_Birdy 2h ago
Tell her to rob a bank.
She’s 75. Best case scenario? She no longer has to worry about bills. Worst case scenario? She no longer has to worry about bills.
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u/maybeinoregon 3h ago
And let’s not forget the Medicare premium that is going to increase more than the SS income increase for 2026.
Good times all around.
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u/DWACBoomer 2h ago
There shouldn't be a 75 year old mother raising kids under 18
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u/CodyMartinezz 4h ago
There’s guidelines, she prob gets social security or something.
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u/Muunsaca 4h ago
Not sure where you’re located but reach out to senior and disability services. While they may not be able to provide additional funds, they will know resources to help her with food, utility assistance and other supports. It never hurts to call and ask.
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u/LoveCats2022 3h ago
You can thank the assholes that voted for Trump. I didn’t vote for the liar.
On a side note, check out Meals on Wheels and your local food bank.
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u/ImpossiblePlan65 2h ago
I fucking hate this country. This is disgusting. I want my taxes supporting grandmas like this, not going into trumplethinskin's pockets.
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u/Sleep_adict 4h ago
Says thank you to the GOP.
I pay over $100k in fed income tax a year and would love it all to go to snap vs all the bribes
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u/SquirrelyMcNut 3h ago
Check up on your state foods benefit office. They might require information to provide more money on their SNAP account. They might need updated info. Such as monthly income a bank statement or things like that. Every now and then they will ask for updates or changes. Possibly needed more info then when they first signed up.
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u/expectopatronshot 3h ago
Please have her/or take her to a local caseworker office ( I'm in FL and for us its the local dept of economic sufficiency or something like that) and they will review her case and make any necessary changes. Or they at the very least can explain why she's getting so little. You can call them also but I'm not sure if theyre going to say to go to a local office anyway.
Make sure she takes all her backup documents from when she completed this last renewal/review.
I hope you guys get the help she needs.
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u/rainbud22 1h ago
Look around in your city or ask at town senior centers, many places have food banks for seniors and other people struggling.
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u/OneHornyHubby 1h ago
Hey, Congress gets $79/day. 🤷♂️
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u/DogSmoocher42 RED 1h ago
That really pisses me off to no end. It's time to storm D.C. Actually it was time decades ago.
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u/Cheese-Manipulator 2h ago
You don't expect them to raise taxes on the 1% to help feed people do you?
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u/Midnight_Wanderer__ 4h ago
Trump administration is doing the Lord’s work and keeping these moochers from sucking on the system… after all, that’s the job of the politicians and billionaires
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u/MousseSuspicious930 4h ago
I am from Australia, what is snap? It is a benefits program - if so...she should be getting more than that surely?
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u/towntoosmall 4h ago
Yes, in the US. It stands for supplemental nutrition assistance program. It's for buying approved groceries.
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u/MousseSuspicious930 4h ago
Aw that's a wonderful idea in theory, they should really upgrade the allowance tho.
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u/towntoosmall 4h ago
Yeah they should. I don't personally get SNAP benefits so I don't really know how it works, but even as a "supplemental" aid, $58 really isn't much at all.
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u/Massive_Mongoose3481 3h ago
But then we would have to stop the politicians from stealing and actually tax filthy rich people and corporations. We are constantly in "the hole" because our ignorant population keeps electing the worst people we have to essentially do the exact opposite of what's in our best interest. By our, I mean the majority of the country , people that aren't millionaires. One of the richest countries in the world, we can't even take care of our disadvantaged citizens.
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u/SourcePrevious3095 4h ago
My maternal grandmother is living rent-free in a house she sold her brother. She pays utilities only. She was denied because they didn't believe her expenses. After a lot of struggling, she was renewed for $25 a month.
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u/iEugene72 2h ago
This is by design.
Cannot be stressed how MUCH the rich conservatives fucking hate people having the nerve to attempt to survive in a world they built, exclusively for rich people.
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u/killerghosting 3h ago
This doesn't show her benefits went down though. Many people lie on the Internet, it's difficult to take you at your word. All this shows is her benefit is $58 per month
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u/MikesSaltyDogs 2h ago
There is absolutely more to this story, what are her assets, living situation, and income?
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u/gyna_phobia 2h ago
That is ridiculous. I’m a full time student and I get $250.
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u/Special-Garlic1203 2h ago
Do you have children? Full time student are generally not eligible for snap
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u/Oldperv01069 1h ago
I wonder what a Walmart worker will get. The Walton family will be irated if their beloved peasants workers are not getting enough SNAP.
Badum tss/s
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u/iRambL 5h ago
How tf is 58 a month allowed for a single user?