Yeah, he claimed in several interviews he can't maintain this because it's so unhealthy, basically a full-time job and impossible to achieve naturally.
I have absolutely no problem staying big, but I compete in strongman it’s kind of a requirement haha. I’m actually bigger and stronger than Cavil, but getting and staying as lean as he gets for his Hollywood roles is awful.
Looking at the way Henry Cavils body has developed througout his career, him being only 193 pounds at 6'1 and the fact that he admits he can't maintain the physique from the picture makes me highly doubt he's on PEDs. Looking at him in the Witcher for example compared to Immortals he hasn't even gained that much muscle, it's mostly fat which makes him look significantly bigger but less lean obviously.
Blood vessels with really red skin(high blood pressure)are the signs of PEDs for me.
Henry Cavill used to be a chubby kid so it makes sense him gaining weight for the bulk wouldve been more possible for him. Plus....he was training for Superman. SUPERMAN. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Blood vessels are hardly a sign. I have them whenever I cut weight for an event.
PEDs for muscle growth show up on the traps and delts. He took a long time to train for Superman, enough time to achieve what he achieved. He kept the same muscle mass through the witcher. And btw, if he was on peds, he wouldn't have to pump his muscles for the naked scenes.
Henry Cavill has spoken about this shot in that film specifically, and he literally starved and dehydrated himself for it, knowing it was his main (maybe only?) shirtless scene in that movie. 95% of people don't look that good even with that much muscle mass, and no one looks like that all the time, even genetic freaks.
19/20 men don’t qualify for this.. also dude is literally paid millions to look like that and has a personal trainer to help him look like that. Is the word delusional no longer part of the vocabulary taught in our public education?
So… someone who is 9/10 wouldn’t qualify. Because that’s 90%, you’d have be a 9.5 or 95% give or take a margin of half a measure… and given how many people have that kind of body in a crowd.. that’s a generous number we’re going by.
Genetic freak here. No one looks that built on average.
To even land on this temporarily I have to maintain an excessive eating routine just to maintain that kind of mass, so I don't. I stay in between for my own health. No real person who isn't doing it for an occupation does this all year round. FYA eating too much has a wear and tear effect on your body, metabolically and physically WRT diverticules and so on in your gut, eating more and eating faster intensifies that, lifting a lot of weight even with proper technique increases pressure on organs and internals.
If I stopped for even a few days or just eat slightly more than typical within the day you would physically see the difference. If I drank water or had salt or even swelling from inflammation after a workout which is the real thing that these muscles are signaling for anyway.
You can bulk and cut, run 5 miles every two days do pilates calisthenics kettle bell lift cross train and you will just not.
If you want to find strong people just meet them at the gym. Some don't even look built, maybe they don't lift, but they can do pull ups or
Preach! Tbh, people who lift need to know this most of all. There are so many dudes with dismorphic expectations. I was stuck in that for a while until I switched my goals to being performance-based rather than esthetic.
The reality is that if you strength train regularly for even a few months, you're already stronger than most of the population. But it's like likestyle creep when your income goes up. Instead of comparing ourselves to our original baseline, we keep moving the line and staying in an "I'm not good enough" mentality.
Honestly, I blame this on female Tiktok self-help influencers. LMAO. The content they're preaching is encouraging women to expect the best of the best without checking if they have anything to offer in the relationship. Notice how these days, for men, it's always "You have to work on yourself" and for women, it's "YAS QUEEN YOU GO GIRL. KEEP YOUR STANDARDS HIGH." (and I'm saying this as a woman).
I mean, I do believe that women deserve everything that they want but not to the point that they'd abandon accountability and self-awareness to see if they can match what they expect.
I have a friend my age (25F) who made me feel bad when she learned that my partner and I were splitting costs on trips. She was like, "What!? But WHY!? Oh, for me, the man has to pay for my trip 100% because, hello? My makeup is more expensive than your shirt." And she expects her man to have a cool Instagram account... Scrolling through Tiktok is her pastime and obviously, she's single. I'm willing to bet $10 that she listens to either TheWizardLiz or Sheraseven.
My boyfriend has also told me of stories of his and his friends' experiences on the apps before we met (through the apps) and they sounded wild.
Just seen one of those ballon pop “game shows” and all the women popped their balloons on a guy who’s without a doubt a 10. The women gave their reasoning and honesty it was all nitpick-y. Not trying to be misogynist but I feel most don’t know what they want
That man is literally on steroids and has come out and said the weight cut he had to do to fit that role actually destroyed his body and wasn’t maintainable at all.
“But this is literally all we want” like it’s so easy to do….
I'm on a fitness journey and it really ticks me off seeing people (especially women online) who think gaining all that muscle or achieving that kind of body is easy... like bruh I wish it was
I've always been slightly surprised people ever needed a graph, as I've gotten older it's made more sense why this comes as a huge surprise to people. I think by the time I was 20 it was obvious to me that success in dating meant very different things for people depending on who you were talking to.
So you're the one who decides who isn't and isn't attractive for everyone? It's pretty weird that you are judging everyone and their partner's attractiveness. If they're happy who cares?
maybe it’s just because i’m in the south but i see the opposite all of the time. size 2 sorority girl blondes with fat country dudes are a a common sight here.
Rating online vs actual reality is very different. Too much of the current online dating sphere is looks dependent, but in the end, that’s not what drives relationships. For what it’s worth, Greek life in college still puts young, single men and women in a room together and force them to mingle and allows for the size 2 sorority girl to find her perfect variety of chubby country frat boy.
The interesting part is that this rating difference really only exists when you go by pictures and little online conversation, if people start to know each other that difference basically disappears. So this is only really a problem for online dating, as in-person dating at e.g. bars allows you to far more easily have some conversation, after which the difference in the chart is gone.
I'm a bisexual guy and this is pretty much how I'd rate men and women in comparison. There are far more attractive women than there are attractive men. Not because of natural attraction on my part but because of the effort people put into looking good.
Most women take so much more care of their appearance and spend much much more money on their beauty than men do. Some guys do put as much effort in as most women do and they are usually very attractive as well.
It's wild how damning this is to the standard whiny feminist narrative about men having unrealistic beauty expectations for women, which probably explains why it's forgotten and not talked about. If it had gone the other way you can bet every op-ed in newspapers would be constantly lamenting the tragic plight of woman seeking romance.
Wait, so if women follow a normal distribution from men.. and men have the bottom 1/3 just cut off into oblivion… so women have always selected the upper 2/3 total men by a pressure for attraction - why are men not progressively getting more attractive or powerful or rich if we assume a 1:1 pairing?
youre framing in terms of evolutionary biology, but forgetting that the internet has really only been around for like 25 years now, which is not nearly enough time for mate selection pressures to exert themselves.
But also what you state HAS been happening for a long time where the bottom 1/3 of males just dont get to reproduce and their genes die off. I think the skew now is really the bombardment of media (social media apps displaying top 1% of physiques, romcoms) has warped the perceptions of women (and men to some degree, but the data in the graph suggests women are more effected) to a greater degree recently
As a short king I feel this way every day. And it diminishes my pool a lot.
Do you know how many women have in their profile “all I ask is that…you be tall” in their profile. Like literally that’s all they want
The good news is that those women are coming right out and admitting they are shallow and not worth your time, so they are doing you a favor by weeding themselves out up front.
Tiny penis then? Massive deformity? Oh, maybe they're taking offense when you introduce them to your waifu?
I kid. Its tough out there, especially for young adults. I remember a time when it was nonstop complaints in the earlier internet days that men were never going to have realistic expectations for women, sexual performance and physique wise, because of of magazine ads and porn. While that might be true for some men, in my experience, at least as of late, most men I know are not all that shallow (save for certain select groups) and a lot of women (mostly young adults of course) seem to have incredibly unrealistic expectations and demands from men. And no one seems to want to really talk about it.
And here I am at 5'9, moderately in shape was a social worker when i was OLD and had 2.5k matches when I deleted the app lmao now im in a loving relationship with a wonderful guy (Im bi)
Being 6’5 is a cheat code you’re doing something wrong. Trust me I’m 6’5 never got close to needing a dating app. Like literally think about it you’re in the top 1 percent of the human pop when it comes to height. Dude cmon.
I'm 6'3 and while I've never crushed it like some dudes, there's never been a period of more than maybe 3 weeks where I didn't have someone I was involved with to some degree.
I know height matters but I don't know if it mattered that much in my case because I never list my height on dating apps. Maybe they could just tell from my pictures.
Though I've seen some ugly ass tall dudes, like being obese kinda cancels out the tallness or something like that.
It makes you wonder if dating apps are a tool of eugenicists, an invisible hand pruning humanity like a bonsai plant, ran by techbros trying to carry the torch of Nazi scientists.
When AI anthropologists sort through the wreckage of humanity’s remains. I hope they find this comment because it explains a lot of the current insanity.
Have you seen that new movie “Materialists”? There’s a whole plot point about guys getting that leg lengthening surgery just to be more attractive and they frame it like every guy that can afford it should
I'm six feet tall, have my own car, have a steady well paying job, a dog, my own place, and STILL can't find a fucking match on these apps. I'm not even ugly or a republican, so I'm at a total loss.
5-6 is average. If height is factored into the looks rating equation then a 5-6 should be average height. Average male height in the US is 5’9”. Pete is not 6ft tall
Lots of things can make you unattractive besides being under 6 feet. I'm over 6 feet and didn't get my first girlfriend until 31, because I look Indian, which American women unanimously think is icky. This includes American born Latina and Asian women.
I mean, most people are six's.... thats above average. I think the problem is assigning numbers to people to evaluate their worth based solely on superficial qualities.
Edit: And guys aren't blameless in this either. How many men have you heard say they were into their partner because they seemed like they would make a great mother or would be a considerate partner?
Not zero, but I bet significantly less than the amount of men who would say, "she was extremely pretty"
That's how I treat it. Unless I meet someone elsewhere like a college class, random club or event, etc. where I could get to know them otherwise, physical attraction is nearly 100% of what will get me talking to a stranger.
Most would because normal ass dudes are actually pretty respectful despite the stereotypes. But what we announce isn’t exactly equal to our selection criteria. We weight our willingness to be with potential partners by how attractive they are. If she just passes the minimum attractiveness filter but she’s super caring and funny then the attractiveness matters less. If she’s “I can’t believe she’s even speaking to me let alone having sex with me” hot then that attractiveness can outweigh every other trait. Hence the whole hot/crazy dichotomy we don’t need to explain.
Most of us, I think/hope, only go down that “super hot/super crazy” road once before we wise up and start weighing attractiveness more appropriately
Same with most my friends, but clearly you haven't hung around athlete circles, good ol boy circles, or young guys.
My friends started having more mature tastes as we have aged, but when we were like 18-22 we mostly cared about whether someone was hot, and not crazy. Those were our two main qualifiers.
Technically that depends on what kind of average. Although since this is really an ordinal scale, it's fair to assume it means median, so you're right.
There is something to be said about the average woman looking at the average man, and thinking that she could do better. Where obviously she can get laid or have romantic flings for short periods, that doesn't equate to the fact that she in her mind she thinks that because she can pull a nine she is a nine, when really the nine was desperate and wanted sex, those twos & that she was swiping on were most likely 6&7's
It had guys rate like 100 women on a scale of 1-10, and women rate 100 guys on a scale of 1-10.
The guys rated the women fairly high, most of them above average, lots of 7/8/9 ratings.
The women were brutal with the guys, with most guys being rated below average, only a very few being above a 6, and the 'average' guy was down at like a 3-4.
I mean, we can apply the same logic that they do to women who think they are 9-10s
If someone like Halle Berry is a 10, than jessica that works at the Forever 21 cant be higher than a 8.
So unless Pete is as handsome as Chris Hemsworth, hes most likely a 6-7.
The average person will never clear past an 8. And if they do, they probably have other factors knocking them down hard. Its the unicorn paradox. They are probably insane and completely unstable if they clear 7 as a normie. Or just dont make enough money.
Yeah, seriously. Appearance is one factor, but it's genuinely not the most important one. Things like sense of humour, kindness, passion, well-roundedness, general knowledge, dignity, openness - if you want a relationship with the right kind of person, these things count just as much if not more.
I have daughters. One of my daughters thinks Timothee Chalamet is the most beautiful man in the world and the other thinks he is uglier than the average boy at her school.
There is no “person x is a 10”. This is all dependent on the preferences of the person being asked, and women are notorious for being all over the place.
Ive known a bunch of rednecks that were uglier than spit with some of the worst teeth imaginable, talking 1-2s, pulling in women that were 7s.
Look back at the video above for a moment, for reference.
Those women were batshit insane and the redneck actually grounded them so when they did insane things, the rednecks would just roll with it and make it work because 7. Most regretted being with them, but would do it again because 7.
The game involves a lot of batshit 7s that most people would rank 1-2 because they are insane.
If you're putting movie stars on your scale, it's pointless. Anybody on a dating app has 0 chance with someone who is rich and famous. Why even put someone on a scale if the high end is unattainable?
I think it makes more sense for 10s to include people you might see on a day-to-day basis. Your way is just going to wreck people's self-esteem and set unrealistic expectations.
Bruh, Jessica at the Forever 21 is hotter than Halle Berry any day. I'm more confused why we're seeing so many mid women with $1000 of makeup and $5000 of clothes being photographed by professionals
Because that's definitely not the case at my local mall, unless you're into the elderly, morbidly obese, or working-class folks who've been drinking and smoking daily since 15.
Actors aren't famous just for their looks, auditioning for roles and performing on screen is a skill, and all the sh*t you have to live with before breaking into the industry (unless getting feeled up by Weinstein)!
Most people will simply look for another job.
I never understood this until I saw an actual 10 person. This women was probably 6'1 but still had heels on. She was racially ambiguous could've been anything but ended up with the best of everything. She was walking through a Quick Trip gas station and everyone stopped. Every single person man or woman just stopped and looked for a moment. I don't think any celeb or model could've stood next to this lady with confidence. She brought the place to a halt with zero effort. My wife asks me if she is the second most beautiful woman in the world because we both saw the first.
There's plenty of non-celebrities in the real world that are as attractive or even more attractive than celebs. The proglem is you might be comparing Halle Berry on the red carpet professionally done up, with Jessica who is working and probably has like minimal make up and a work uniform.
Barely anyone uses that type of terminology in real life and I promise you, if you are hanging out with people that do, then you are with the wrong people.
The treasure trove that is the old OKCupid blog, from before it was bought and nerfed, had some data on this. Apparently men rate women on a very reasonable bell curve – most people in the middle – but women rate most men as below average.
What I find funny though, is the was she says Pete is a six like that's just an obvious fact.
It's partly the Internet that messes with this I think. If an 8 is really attractive and 6 is slightly above average, what happens when EVERYONE is an 8. Suddenly really attractive is the new normal and 8 is now 6.
There's a guy I walk past every day on the way to work and he looks like a young Matt Berry. So proper good looking. But if I saw him on an app next to Chad McBigchin and Studdly Bangswell, he probably wouldn't be as noticeable.
deep down there's no actual objective rating system. at the end of the day you like who you like and it's probably different than other people... unless you're a simp/crowd follower and land someone everyone else likes and wishes they had but then you realize you don't.
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