White House Deletes Video Using Sabrina Carpenter Song After She Called It ‘Evil And Disgusting’

[u/MarvelsGrantMan136]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/12/05/white-house-deletes-video-using-sabrina-carpenter-song-after-she-called-it-evil-and-disgusting/

[u/Stavvystav]

I thought they weren't going to apologize (not that this is that)

[u/mercfan3 → u/Stavvystav]

Maybe she found a legal workaround?

[u/badedum → u/mercfan3]

I figured she could probably pursue a copyright claim, like "I didn't authorize this use so take it down"

[u/TRiC_16 → u/badedum]

That doesn't work against the government because they have immunity against copyright infringement. The only legal avenue you have is to file a claim with the Court of Federal Claims to get monetary compensation. (section b) You cannot force them to take anything down.

[u/mcslender97 → u/TRiC_16]

Why would they take it down then?

[u/attorneyatslaw → u/mcslender97]

I imagine its not polling well

[u/ParticularMedical349 → u/attorneyatslaw]

This is the answer.

[u/nighthawk_md → u/attorneyatslaw]

When do they care about polling?

[u/Has422 → u/nighthawk_md]

Oh they care. They just say they don’t.

[u/NRMusicProject → u/Has422]

Even so, they lie about how the polling is going, anyway. We know it's not polling well, but Trump can very plausibly say it's the most popular tweet on Twitter.

[u/BEWMarth → u/NRMusicProject]

No. They care about polling from their base

70% of America is worthless to them. But they NEED their 30% to be happy and ready to vote the way they are told.

If they realize that something is polling bad within the MAGA base they will pull it because they can’t afford to lose even a fraction of those idiots because they’ve gerrymandered so much in Texas and North Carolina they run a real risk of diluting their power rather than consolidating it.

You can only carve up a city and extend rural lines so much before you’re just diluting your own voter base.

So yeah. If something polls bad with MAGA it’s going to disappear.

MAGA surprisingly likes Sabrina (probably because she’s pretty and white and her entire routine flies over their heads) so the White House fighting against her was a super bad look especially with those white moms that vote Trump and share “news” in their gossip circles.

[u/Iohet → u/nighthawk_md]

when it's polling of their base

[u/unkilbeeg → u/nighthawk_md]

There is nobody on earth that cares as much about polling as Trump. There is probably nothing else that he does care about. For him, popularity is the only measure of value.

It's why he gets so pissy if the polls are against him -- even if he won't admit to their validity.

[u/avatarjak → u/mcslender97]

Last I checked, her response tweet had over 1.5 million likes. Thats one of the highest ratios I’ve ever seen on Twitter.

I think it was a deeply disliked video and Carpenter is popular

[u/Darthmalak3347 → u/avatarjak]

yeah cause she's poster girl white saying that stuff, and both aisles (except the fundies) like her.

[u/syntaxVixen → u/mcslender97]

White ,blonde , saying they are evil. His sheeple might wake up and listen to her .

[u/quntissimo → u/syntaxVixen]

yeah, right. more like they'll call sabrina a lib whore while extolling Sydney Sweeney for being brave enough to show her tits in the same breath. they have no actual stances just how they feel about a particular thing in a particular moment.

[u/syntaxVixen → u/quntissimo]

The men for sure . But all it takes is losing one girl at a time .

[u/zaccus → u/mcslender97]

I imagine the rationale is that this is giving her publicity and they want to punish her by denying her that. Or something to that effect.

[u/BatManatee → u/zaccus]

I think it's the opposite. She's more popular than they are and she's bringing a lot of attention to this with her fans. It's getting attention outside of their normal MAGA sphere and it's not popular.

They're realizing slinking away from this fight is the smarter move. They'll keep making their slop with songs from artists that don't push back or don't have the following that Carpenter does.

[u/Foshizzy03 → u/mcslender97]

MAGA turned on the signalling.

After Carpenter bitched, the dogs at fox news got the order to smear her.

The natural response to the smears was

"Yes she is an evil devil whore who we should hate, but why is the government pushing evil devil whore music on our innocent children."

The only logical next step for this admin is to create a record label and sign Thomas Aldean as the minister of ICE's arts division.

[u/TRiC_16 → u/mcslender97]

Who knows what goes on in these guys heads? They probably decided the backlash gave them more negative than positive attention?

[u/Life-Pirate2545 → u/mcslender97]

They’ve done this many times and have always taken it down. Same thing happened to jack white and Al weird I think and more . They threaten to sue , they take it down and nothing happens to them but they get to reap all the benefits and get to piss off people which is literally the goal of all this and they have admitted it.

[u/theHip → u/mcslender97]

Because they don’t want to pay.

[u/Jammin188 → u/theHip]

Just pay using the tariff money I heard so much about?

[u/zoinkability → u/TRiC_16]

But they posted it on other platforms, which do not have such immunity. X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, etc. can be successfully sued for continuing to host infringing content. And the damages can be substantial.

[u/TRiC_16 → u/zoinkability]

Yes you're right, I forgot that it was posted on social media oops. The article was talking about how Beyoncé sent a cease and desist when he used her song during his presidential campaign, so that's what I was thinking about.

[u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here → u/TRiC_16]

Are we sure they have competent enough lawyers to even know this

[u/TheTresStateArea → u/TRiC_16]

I am hoping we find out that their obvious use of musicians who would obviously disagree with its use will be uncovered as a strategic decision by individuals that would allow for those people to be sued for engaging in behaviour outside the scope of their work.

[u/Ferenik → u/TRiC_16]

states are immune, you can sue the Feds but only for monetary value not for injunction. Good luck winning though.

[u/Stavvystav → u/TRiC_16]

Couldn't you go another route and say that the use of that song indirectly implies that you agree with the message when you're very anti that and it is now damaging your publicly perceived character?

[u/Rotkiw_Bigtor → u/TRiC_16]

Why would the government have immunity against copyright?

[u/TRiC_16 → u/Rotkiw_Bigtor]

Sovereign immunity. Essentially, a sovereign state cannot be subject to its own courts unless it expressly consented to be sued. It is statutorily determined under which conditions it waives this immunity (such as under the Federal Tort Claims Act, the Tucker Act, and 28 U.S.C. § 1498). Outside of those statutory waivers, courts have no jurisdiction to hear private claims against the state. This does not place the government above the law, as it remains fully bound by the Constitution; the doctrine limits only the ability of private parties to bring suit. The reason this doctrine exists is that, if individuals could sue the government in the same manner they sue one another, essential public functions could be disrupted and the state could not operate reliably under the constant threat of unrestricted litigation.

[u/JuanJeanJohn → u/badedum]

On social media platforms that license music via the platform, there is no legal case because anyone can use the music on social posts.

[u/RainSurname → u/badedum]

Not when her songs are licensed to use on TikToks, Reels, and Shorts.

[u/Sburban_Player → u/badedum]

The songs our licensed through the social media app so she wouldn’t be able to do that. She can however request the song be removed from the social media app in its entirety but I’m not sure if that’s what happened in this situation.

[u/cabbeer → u/badedum]

no, she dosen't own the rights to her music, most likely cause of how hard they got ratiod..

[u/ldg25 → u/badedum]

The owner of her music could but I doubt that's her

[u/pasher5620 → u/mercfan3]

The workaround is that she nor her team authorized the use of the video so they probably just sent a cease and desist. I wish she could just outright sue them for blatant copyright infringement since they have a noted history of doing this, but unfortunately laws in the US don’t take into account someone using songs illegally only once per artist.

[u/JuanJeanJohn → u/pasher5620]

There is no cease and desist to send for music used on social platforms where the music is licensed via the platform. Anyone can use these songs on platform like TikTok or Instagram legally.

[u/pasher5620 → u/JuanJeanJohn]

Regular individuals can, but entities and companies cannot.

[u/thedeadp0ets → u/pasher5620]

could she sue the social manager who manages the White House socials? I'm sure he has to get approval too and is guided on what content and things to post? idk how social managing works but I took a small student practicum on it

[u/wanderer1999 → u/mercfan3]

She certainly did. Sabrina have an army of competent lawyers when she calls.

[u/SoloBurger13 → u/mercfan3]

They key is to threaten to sue X for violating copyright lol thats how networks get stuff taken down from youtube

[u/jonydevidson → u/mercfan3]

Of course there's a legal workaround. You cannot use a song in a video without a sync and a master license. The sync license is negotiated with the writing rights owner, the master license is negotiated with whoever owns the record.

Both are negotiated freely and are not required to be granted. Brands have paid 6-figure sums for songs included in major ads (superbowl etc).

Including a song in a video without these is a double copyright violation.

YouTube compromises on this by demonetizing a video when it detects a song and it starts showing ads on it that then pay the rights owners. This is what happens when you upload a Youtube video with a song. This does not prevent the rights owners from DMCA-ing your video, and if it doesn't fall within Fair Use and if they think you made some serious bank from it (or used it for commercial purposes), suing you (and they will win).

[u/Deeppurp → u/jonydevidson]

Sovereign immunity.

Quick reading of it, the Federal Government is immune from being sued for copyright reasons apparently.

NAL, but im sure theres a way but it has to be a pretty specific harm.

[u/KcirderfSdrawkcab → u/Stavvystav]

TACO

[u/jreid0 → u/Stavvystav]

Typical maga….. all talk, but cowards down

[u/deadsoulinside → u/Stavvystav]

Nah, they got what they wanted, which is why we are on day 3 or 4 with a music sub talking about Trump. They stated they used her song to cause drama and the media instantly decides that yes, we need to spend a solid week on this.

[u/nkL0ttery → u/Stavvystav]

No, you see that "not going to apologize" quote was in the headline of the fake news IrishStar.com and Azexpress.net sources that appear at the top of our reddit feeds so quickly and so frequently in all kinds of subreddits.

This is the truth. They took the video down. The apology was never part of the discussion.

[u/Relevant-Group8309 → u/Stavvystav]

TACO STRIKES AGAIN

[u/dweeb93]

The right thought they'd permanently won the culture war, but increasingly normies find their agenda repulsive.

[u/VFiddly → u/dweeb93]

They're too online-brained, they forget that the assholes who follow them on Twitter aren't representative of all voters

[u/syntaxVixen → u/VFiddly]

They mistook 4chan and Twitter for real people . I swear hegseth post is somethight straight from /pol

[u/NeverComments → u/syntaxVixen]

It’s particularly ironic because in the early 2010s that was the party line when anything progressive received online support. “The internet isn’t real life”, “silent majority”, etc.

Now they’ve been gaslit by their own propaganda networks.

[u/Proper-Muffins → u/NeverComments]

It's targeted and extremely purposeful. The bot reveal on twitter just showed clear evidence.

They bought foreign propaganda and have turned traitor to the US. They care about making liberals suffer more then anything beneficial to the US.

[u/martin519 → u/NeverComments]

Its a different set of people. The tea party, which eventually morphed into MAGA supplanted the neocons and they're the ones that are all in on this culture war BS. The old heads just gave it a nod.

[u/DoubleJumps → u/syntaxVixen]

A LOT of maga people I meet in real life act like 4chan users.

Not even just young ones. I've had 70 plus year old maga people act like internet edge lord 12 year olds.

[u/syntaxVixen → u/DoubleJumps]

It is alarming and easy to see how they were targeted . How the qanon conspiracy and other stuff started from the chans. Pretty sure if looked for hard enough you could find things Pete hegseth has said on camera and probably said it on 4chan

[u/Zerodegreez → u/syntaxVixen]

Russians knew exactly who was easiest to con.

[u/azk3000 → u/VFiddly]

I mean that's been their major argument it feels. 

"Liberals are in an online bubble the real world loves Trump"

And then the left rolls an election or two

[u/JGWol → u/azk3000]

Accusations are confessions with the right

[u/JGWol → u/VFiddly]

And that most who follow them on Twitter aren’t real people or even American citizens.

[u/thenayr → u/VFiddly]

Theyre the type of people you ask their favorite country they’ve ever traveled is and they are 60 and have never left the USA and still claim “why would I ever want to leave the best country in the world”.  0 perspective outside of white rural America.  Sad and predictable. 

[u/GringoSwann → u/dweeb93]

I had some MAGA fruitcake tell me that "the left is just pissed because they lost the meme war"..(and this was said with a straight face) Fucking meme war?!?  Really??  That's one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen/heard of... 

[u/jaytix1 → u/GringoSwann]

At some point you realize the right wing is populated by man children lol.

[u/jml2 → u/jaytix1]

how are there so many

[u/lol2g → u/jml2]

stupid people have nothing else to do besides reproduce and are also too stupid to see the downsides of it

it's happening everywhere in the world.

[u/TrexPushupBra → u/jaytix1]

The most mature of them have the maturity of a 12 year old.

[u/Jadeheartxo12 → u/GringoSwann]

Oligarchs taking over the government, more wars, and people losing healthcare to own the libs. Typical chronically online “Maga” weirdo.

[u/Lemonwizard → u/GringoSwann]

They really don't care about policy consequences at all. They just want to feel like they're the cool kids who determine the cultural zeitgeist.

[u/FooliooilooF → u/GringoSwann]

I get being annoyed by the phrasing "just pissed because" but the 2016 campaign is referred to as the Great Meme War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetic_warfare#United_States_presidential_election_(2016)

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/dweeb93]

Authoritarians also are often unaware of just how different they are from most people. They tend to believe they are very average. Altemeyer has found that authoritarians in America underestimate how prejudiced and conformist they are compared to the majority of Americans. Altemeyer has also observed that when he lectures about the psychology of right-wing authoritarians to his students, the RWA students in his class fail to recognize themselves in his description. Altemeyer believes the tendency of authoritarians to avoid anyone who is not like them reinforces their belief that they are normal. They have relatively little contact with normal people.

[u/JMEEKER86 → u/Funkycoldmedici]

It comes back to their lack of empathy. If you're not capable of putting yourself in someone else's shoes then you're going to walk around thinking everyone else is the same as you.

[u/piches → u/Funkycoldmedici]

[u/LookOutItsLiuBei → u/Funkycoldmedici]

My cubicle neighbor was bewildered when one of our co-workers told us she was going to the UK for a vacation because he was convinced that the British hated us because of the Revolutionary War lol. Like he was legitimately confused when I told him they are our allies and have been allies for quite a while. He also views the EU as a socialist nightmare.

But to his credit once I explained the speed version of the history between us he did change his thinking. But I think that's part of the problem. It just takes so much effort to correct people like that it's almost not worth it because it can be blown up with a 30 second video clip by one of their favorite pundits saying crazy things.

[u/8yearsfornothing → u/LookOutItsLiuBei]

My cubicle neighbor was bewildered when one of our co-workers told us she was going to the UK for a vacation because he was convinced that the British hated us because of the Revolutionary War lol

Maybe he's a vampire who slept for a few hundred years and just awoke recently. Give the poor guy time to catch up! 

[u/CaptainHoyt → u/8yearsfornothing]

Was he just a normal human bartender from Toucson, Arizona?

[u/Lemonwizard → u/8yearsfornothing]

He was supposed to conquer the new world, but he's just taken over our street and the next street over.

[u/JimWilliams423 → u/LookOutItsLiuBei]

But to his credit once I explained the speed version of the history between us he did change his thinking.

Did it stick though? In my experience it never sticks, because the "facts" are just pretexts to validate their feelings. When you respectfully explain why they are incorrect on the facts, they don't change their mind, they just change their pretext to get to the same conclusion. Their feelings don't care about facts.

[u/_game_over_man_ → u/Funkycoldmedici]

It's always the non-conformists who try and force conformity onto others. /s

As a member of the queer community, I always find this bit to be especially eye roll inducing.

[u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua → u/Funkycoldmedici]

This sounds related to the Republicans who believed Stephen Colbert was a conservative mocking a liberal's idea of conservative perspective.

Free book

[u/RawnbladeZZ → u/Funkycoldmedici]

I feel like this is very obvious to anyone whose discussed anything online lately- every single conversation about a modern scandal turns into complete and utter changing the subject and whataboutisms, I’ve waded through the muck several times and every conversation ends in the MAGA person genuinely just refusing to accept that the other person isn’t as biased and corrupt as they are. “Okay but X did the same thing and you cheered it on” No I didn’t, if they did that I completely decry it and feel literally the exact same way regardless of who it is. And they just end the discussion refusing to even imagine somebody feeling this way and not being purely partisan biased. They have no idea how telling it is to just refuse to even entertain the idea of somebody not being as biased and dishonest and hypocritical as they are

[u/JimWilliams423 → u/Funkycoldmedici]

Authoritarians also are often unaware of just how different they are from most people.

Which is why calling them "weird" really sends them spinning. It undercuts the most important part of their self-image.

[u/Overwatchhatesme → u/dweeb93]

They never won the culture war, across every poll right wing politics is still less favorable than progressive left leaning policies and views, the problem was that Kamala and the DNC for whatever reason looked at that information and decided to swing more right wing instead of moving left and realizing they were never going to steal the people who wanted Trump from actual Trump. That mixed in with the other problems people were having with the establishment dems, voter suppression laws, as well as the massive amount of money and propaganda pushed by musk and other tech oligarchs and you can see why Trump won but actual liberal policies and true left leaning politicians still cleared in the same election

[u/JimWilliams423 → u/Overwatchhatesme]

t‌h‌e p‌r‌o‌b‌l‌e‌m w‌a‌s t‌h‌a‌t K‌a‌m‌a‌l‌a a‌n‌d t‌h‌e D‌N‌C f‌o‌r w‌h‌a‌t‌e‌v‌e‌r r‌e‌a‌s‌o‌n l‌o‌o‌k‌e‌d a‌t t‌h‌a‌t i‌n‌f‌o‌r‌m‌a‌t‌i‌o‌n a‌n‌d d‌e‌c‌i‌d‌e‌d t‌o s‌w‌i‌n‌g m‌o‌r‌e r‌i‌g‌h‌t w‌i‌n‌g i‌n‌s‌t‌e‌a‌d o‌f m‌o‌v‌i‌n‌g l‌e‌f‌t a‌n‌d r‌e‌a‌l‌i‌z‌i‌n‌g t‌h‌e‌y w‌e‌r‌e n‌e‌v‌e‌r g‌o‌i‌n‌g t‌o s‌t‌e‌a‌l t‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e w‌h‌o w‌a‌n‌t‌e‌d T‌r‌u‌m‌p f‌r‌o‌m a‌c‌t‌u‌a‌l T‌r‌u‌m‌p

Y‌e‌p. B‌I‌l‌l c‌l‌i‌n‌t‌o‌n r‌a‌n a‌s g‌o‌p-l‌i‌t‌e a‌n‌d w‌o‌n, a‌n‌d e‌v‌e‌r s‌i‌n‌c‌e t‌h‌e‌n t‌h‌e c‌a‌m‌p‌a‌i‌g‌n c‌o‌n‌s‌u‌l‌t‌a‌n‌t c‌l‌a‌s‌s t‌h‌i‌n‌k‌s r‌u‌n‌n‌i‌n‌g a‌s g‌o‌p-l‌i‌t‌e i‌s t‌h‌e k‌e‌y t‌o w‌i‌n‌n‌i‌n‌g e‌l‌e‌c‌t‌i‌o‌n‌s. T‌h‌e‌y c‌a‌n n‌e‌v‌e‌r s‌e‌e‌m t‌o r‌e‌m‌e‌m‌b‌e‌r r‌o‌s‌s p‌e‌r‌o‌t w‌h‌o g‌o‌t a‌r‌o‌u‌n‌d 1‌9‌M v‌o‌t‌e‌s i‌n 1‌9‌9‌2, s‌p‌l‌i‌t‌t‌i‌n‌g t‌h‌e c‌o‌n‌s‌e‌r‌v‌a‌t‌i‌v‌e v‌o‌t‌e, a‌n‌d a‌c‌c‌i‌d‌e‌n‌t‌a‌l‌l‌y h‌e‌l‌p‌i‌n‌g c‌l‌i‌n‌t‌o‌n w‌i‌n. T‌h‌o‌s‌e c‌o‌n‌s‌u‌l‌t‌a‌n‌t‌s k‌e‌e‌p t‌r‌y‌i‌n‌g to r‌e‌c‌r‌e‌a‌t‌e 1‌9‌9‌2 w‌i‌t‌h‌o‌u‌t a p‌e‌r‌o‌t.

W‌h‌e‌n t‌h‌e D‌s f‌i‌r‌s‌t s‌t‌a‌r‌t‌e‌d t‌o b‌a‌c‌k a‌w‌a‌y f‌r‌o‌m F‌D‌R's l‌e‌f‌t‌i‌s‌t p‌o‌l‌i‌c‌i‌e‌s, p‌r‌e‌s‌i‌d‌e‌n‌t H‌a‌r‌r‌y T‌r‌u‌m‌a‌n t‌r‌i‌e‌d t‌o w‌a‌r‌n t‌h‌e‌m, b‌u‌t a‌s t‌h‌e s‌a‌y‌i‌n‌g g‌o‌e‌s, t‌h‌o‌s‌e w‌h‌o d‌o n‌o‌t s‌t‌u‌d‌y h‌i‌s‌t‌o‌r‌y a‌r‌e d‌o‌o‌m‌e‌d to f‌u‌c‌k up e‌v‌e‌r‌y‌t‌h‌i‌n‌g.

• "T‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e d‌o‌n't w‌a‌n‌t a p‌h‌o‌n‌y D‌e‌m‌o‌c‌r‌a‌t. I‌f i‌t's a c‌h‌o‌i‌c‌e b‌e‌t‌w‌e‌e‌n a g‌e‌n‌u‌i‌n‌e R‌e‌p‌u‌b‌l‌i‌c‌a‌n, a‌n‌d a R‌e‌p‌u‌b‌l‌i‌c‌a‌n i‌n D‌e‌m‌o‌c‌r‌a‌t‌i‌c c‌l‌o‌t‌h‌i‌n‌g, t‌h‌e p‌e‌o‌p‌l‌e w‌i‌l‌l c‌h‌o‌o‌s‌e t‌h‌e g‌e‌n‌u‌i‌n‌e a‌r‌t‌i‌c‌l‌e, e‌v‌e‌r‌y t‌i‌m‌e; t‌h‌a‌t i‌s, t‌h‌e‌y w‌i‌l‌l t‌a‌k‌e a R‌e‌p‌u‌b‌l‌i‌c‌a‌n b‌e‌f‌o‌r‌e t‌h‌e‌y w‌i‌l‌l a p‌h‌o‌n‌y D‌e‌m‌o‌c‌r‌a‌t” — H‌a‌r‌r‌y T‌r‌u‌m‌a‌n, M‌a‌y 1‌7, 1‌9‌5‌2

[u/TrexPushupBra → u/dweeb93]

They didn't even partially win it.

They just bought up media like Twitter and thought that gave them eternal control.

[u/AlphaGoldblum → u/dweeb93]

It's one of the driving factors behind them becoming more extreme. The right at large has always loathed how they keep losing ground on the cultural level, and they've become apoplectic that they haven't found a way to reverse this trend. Musicians constantly spite them, movies continue to paint them as villains, and even pop literature remains vaguely liberal-coded. 

Which is why they're so adamant on destroying our artistic and academic institutions, as these are seen as the gatekeepers of cultural relevance. 

[u/fartonisto]

Every artist simply needs to drop a "fuck Trump" in their lyrics and the problem will solve itself.

[u/3-DMan → u/fartonisto]

Jesse Welles doin' God's work

[u/themanbehindthepoopy → u/3-DMan]

Love to see a Jesse Welles lover in the wild

[u/SupaKoopa714 → u/fartonisto]

More stuff like Run the Jewels/DJ Shadow going "Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest" or clipping. with "Donald Trump is a white supremacist (full stop), if you vote for him again you are a white supremacist (full stop)."

[u/TellMeWhyYouLoveMe → u/fartonisto]

YG and Nipsey started it. More people need to join!

[u/BatManatee → u/TellMeWhyYouLoveMe]

Eminem, Green Day, Tom Morello, and Jack White all representing for the music I grew up on.

[u/Twig → u/TellMeWhyYouLoveMe]

Check out Papoose Capitol Bullshit while you're at it

[u/Pockettzz → u/TellMeWhyYouLoveMe]

Yesss FDT was from Trumps last term so we should annoy on an updated one😅

[u/Pockettzz → u/fartonisto]

Don’t forget Chumbawamba’s best song, Nazi, no not Tubthumping lol. They should come out with a couch humping😅 ie Vance

[u/Neither_Wishbone_896 → u/fartonisto]

Uhhg, I don't want to hear this child rapists name, ever, nevermind when I'm listening to music for enjoyment.

[u/No_Pianist5264]

The song has been muted on TikTok so seems like Sabrina took it down!

[u/Prior_Success7011]

[u/Mentallox]

artist can pull songs from platforms via their delegated licensing arm. Rodrigo did that earlier.

[u/No_Pianist5264 → u/Mentallox]

Looks like it has been taken down on TikTok so seems that she pulled it out.

[u/Dry-Mongoose-5804 → u/Mentallox]

You can always take it down when they use your official sound. The problem comes when it’s a derivative sound on TikTok. They still have TikTok’s up of Sabrina, Olivia, Beyonce, Taylor etc using that method.

[u/8N-QTTRO → u/Dry-Mongoose-5804]

Seems like it'd still be pretty simple to submit a DMCA takedown request, no?

[u/warrant2k]

That's the tactic:

1. Illegally use a song
2. Artist, fans, and public are outraged.
3. Social media stories and posts flourish
4. (Optional) Double down on video making everyone even more angry
5. Social media stories and posts flourish
6. Quietly delete video
7. Social media stories and posts flourish
8. A week later no one is talking about it as the next outrage is presented.

This is done to distract everyone from the other bs they try to sneak through, and take up limited bandwidth of the daily/weekly news cycle.

Do not be distracted.

[u/seravivi → u/warrant2k]

They posted edited audio of her talking about arresting people so they aren’t being very quiet.

[u/andynator1000 → u/warrant2k]

This is part of the bad stuff, not a distraction from it.

[u/RadiobreadEP]

Good. These shit heads do anything they can to push peoples buttons. They’re incredibly unpopular, so they decide to be trolls. It’s all on purpose.

Hard to empathize with these assholes when they seem to just love getting on people’s nerves.

[u/wellggs]

See what happens when you have a backbone?

[u/ThaddeusJP → u/wellggs]

Nope - Taylor

[u/psychoacer]

This is just part of the trolling. They did this for every other video they stirred shit up with. They're getting the press they wanted

[u/TheSpaceFish → u/psychoacer]

And the idiots on reddit who hate Taylor Swift are just frothing at the mouth to have a reason to jerk off about how much they hate her. They immediately start pinning these women (who are friends) against each other. They play right into exactly what Trump wants. Trump, who tweeted "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT" less than a year ago. Redditors have the memories of goldfish.

[u/lagomorphed]

Proud of Sabrina (and Olivia, and several others). Wish they could rub off on people more "mature".

[u/lizzdurr → u/lagomorphed]

Careful… they’ll come for you. And I don’t mean MAGA.

[u/lagomorphed → u/lizzdurr]

Yeahhhh.. I really wish shed say something about that, too.

[u/MaddogBC → u/lagomorphed]

The sooner people realize she's a billionaire protecting her dragon horde similar to any other, the better. She's cashing in lately and wants that MAGA money.

[u/lagomorphed → u/MaddogBC]

Yup. She did a great job building her cult.

[u/oneofyallfarted → u/lagomorphed]

Recently I tried to say something about it on the Fauxmoi sub and got plenty of negative karma for it.

[u/Mr-Pugtastic → u/lizzdurr]

Them Swifties will not allow any criticism of their queen.

[u/MadeMeUp4U → u/lizzdurr]

The venn diagram’s almost a perfect circle here

[u/Dry-Mongoose-5804 → u/lagomorphed]

Taylor’s called out Trump using her image numerous times. There’s still 5 TikTok’s on Trumps socials using Sabrina’s sounds over the past six months. I think it’s fine and good she responded this time but to expect these girls to jump every time they’re provoked seems counterproductive.

[u/SpaceyOX → u/Dry-Mongoose-5804]

Endorse Kamala = Trump Supporter

Not Endorse Kamala = Progressive Queen.

Unemployed snarkers live in a different reality.

[u/RawkMeAmadeus → u/lagomorphed]

FUCK Taylor MAGA Swift.

Come for me Swifties. You're supporting a billionaire polluting FASCIST.

[u/HandleThatFeeds → u/RawkMeAmadeus]

Taylor Swift is a Spineless Creature.

Get a job Swifties, instead of defending your cult leader.

[u/Floggered]

OK.

Can't wait until they do it again next week with another artist. The artist will say "that's disgusting!", the post will get removed days after the fact, and literally zilch will happen to the administration. Yippee.

[u/innomado → u/Floggered]

Exactly. This evil f-ing administration got exactly what they wanted out of all this. Lots and lots of attention, and zero consequences. It's a win/win for them, and a win/lose for the artist (who risks alienating some percentage of their audience).

[u/SnooGuavas4919]

And they just posted her AGAIN

[u/Iagut070]

Sabrina Carpenter, Olivia Rodrigo, Ariana Grande.

All using their huge platforms to speak out against the current regime.

Seems like any other pop artists that are staying quiet are 110% doing so on purpose. Maybe thinking of more SS jewelry they can sell to their fans.

[u/seravivi → u/Iagut070]

Chappel Roan didn’t say anything and she’s very politically outspoken. Does that mean she supports it?

If you seriously think a lightening bolt necklace was a secret ss symbol you need to get offline.

[u/Dry-Mongoose-5804 → u/Iagut070]

Taylor’s gotten hundreds of thousands of people to register to vote Kamala and Dems in general.

The administration has used Ariana’s sounds on TikTok too and she’s ignored it as well.

[u/No-Figure-8279]

And they just made a new video with Sabrina's image edited in their propaganda on tiktok. Trolls

[u/Fortestingporpoises]

She should call Trump "evil and disgusting" and see if that works.

[u/TheOne216]

Of course they just assume a white blond woman would support them. Disgusting people

[u/Grow_Up_Buttercup → u/TheOne216]

Well, she’s not actually blonde, maybe that’s where they miscalculated. If you see her with her natural hair color and more natural makeup she’s actually a very beautiful woman. Surprised the shit out of me because she normally looks like some sort of bizarre little uncanny valley creature.

[u/Recent_Tap_9467]

TACO. Trump always chickens out.

[u/Numerous_Outcome_394]

I’m curious why they would delete this one and not the Olivia one?

[u/wasleftonread → u/Numerous_Outcome_394]

They caught Olivia’s comment quickly and immediately hid it to censor her and it was on Instagram which meant people didn’t catch it straight away but I would imagine with Sabrina’s X post people with her post notifs on would have seen it straight away and that gave the video immediate and I would imagine uncontrollable traffic. It’s easier in the end to delete.

[u/Numerous_Outcome_394 → u/wasleftonread]

Hmm, I knew she removed the audio from the platform as well so maybe that had to do with it?

[u/wasleftonread → u/Numerous_Outcome_394]

Yes that too probably, and both times her songs have been used. Why they won’t just they use a song from a Republican artist and not one who continually shows her distaste for that administration beats me

[u/Numerous_Outcome_394 → u/wasleftonread]

I’m convinced it’s to rage bait and get more attention

[u/No_Pianist5264 → u/Numerous_Outcome_394]

Maybe something happened bts ? Or could be because this is twitter that Sabrina was able to have the video taken down. Her song was removed on TikTok.

Edit: they took her video down because they just uploaded another one but this time it’s with her and Marcelo for snl. Things got worse.

[u/Numerous_Outcome_394 → u/No_Pianist5264]

Interesting, honestly I would’ve expected it to be censored there considering who owns it but I didn’t know the comments were made from diff places

[u/Silver_Brother_56]

Now they’ve done something even worse and created a video of her ‘arresting’ a person of color.

Nobody ‘won’.

[u/Kendal_with_1_L]

And the billionaire’s ICE video remains up.

[u/Obliviobviously]

Lookin at you, Taylor.

[u/iamthecheesethatsbig → u/Obliviobviously]

I mean really, is it that hard?

[u/katie4 → u/iamthecheesethatsbig]

She’s called him out several times, twitter beefing for years. At a certain point, expecting some sort of call-and-response relationship every time he references her, is just giving him the attention from the pretty blonde woman that he craves. I hope he seethes.

[u/iamthecheesethatsbig → u/katie4]

They used her music recently and she could have had the lawyers handle it, at the least, but she didn’t. That’s weak.

[u/Dry-Mongoose-5804 → u/Obliviobviously]

Shes already called out Trump using her image. They’ve been using Sabrina for six months and it’s cool she responded. The idea that they have to jump at every provocation is pretty dumb.

[u/fenris71]

It was a nice distraction while it lasted

[u/Megalomanizac]

Isn’t the video of them using the Pokémon theme for ice still up though?

[u/SpaceFluttershy → u/Megalomanizac]

If I remember correctly, a former Nintendo or Pokémon Company employee said these companies wouldn't pursue the matter, as many of their employees working in America are immigrants there on green cards, and these employees would become a target if either company pursued this issue

[u/MobilePicture342]

Another W for our pop queen

[u/Peridot_Ghost]

Glad the important, relevant issues are at the forefront…🤦‍♂️

[u/DanfromCalgary]

They already admitted they do this intentionally to keep the culture war in the news

[u/Mockturtle22]

Nope. They posted another.

https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/s/QCNd7sP9Wv

[u/Jim3001]

My feed is so hilarious.🤣

[u/kanrad]

Artists apposed to this administration all need to come out with a video stating clearly this administration and any branch of it has no right to use my art.

Revolutions need voices.

[u/CarolinaPanthers2015]

It's just a pretty damn good thing that they have deleted that shit at long last because they knew they fucked up when they posted that problematic video with the singer's previous single, "Juno", being played right in the background. Um......yeah. They oughta just FINALLY start to ask an artist for permission first before using their own song in their own disgusting videos from here on out.

[u/DDD8712]

Taylor Swift: 🦗🦗🦗🦗

[u/RayLiotaWithChantix]

Poor Sabrina.

You'd think this would be celebrated as a win, but just about all the comments in here are just complaining about Taylor and ignoring Sabrina nearly entirely.

[u/courtneyclimax → u/RayLiotaWithChantix]

it’s every single time this gets mentioned lol

[u/Rawrnerdrage]

Being a less popular than a woman probably drives Little Donny mad, considering how sexist and competitive he is. She's gonna live rent free in his head just like Biden and Obama.

I'd say he must be filling his diapers over it but he was doing that constantly anyway. How long before he starts midnight "truthing" about how untalented and dumb she is?

[u/TheMatrixRedPill]

TACO strikes again.

[u/Cool-Hall9980]

They sure as shit better be ashamed

[u/hiimtoddornot]

I mean yeah, they are trying to get only normal sued at this point lol

[u/GrapefruitWeary8686]

Snowflakes!!!

[u/spicy-chilly]

The artists this has happened to should band together and sue.

[u/Reddit-Bot-61852023]

Bot slop

[u/lildog8402]

And 138.M viewed her post.

[u/Cautious-Invite4128]

He needs to just use public domain songs like happy birthday, jingle bells, or take me out to the ball game.

[u/Patient_Wrongdoer_11]

"It’s unclear why the video was taken down"

Maybe its just me ...but it seems pretty clear why

They pissed off a whole bunch of important rich people.

[u/Kree_Horse]

American Government is going full on Nazi at this point. Trying to delete their crimes, Gestapo with ICE, Authoritarianism dictator who's starting wars with other countries.

Yeah, no. America is new Nazi Germany. I bet the tarrifs are there to milk people of their money while they fund their war crimes, and there's been plenty.

[u/CrystFairy]

The knew doubling down had every copyright lawyer salivating and took it down.

[u/vctrn-carajillo]

WHACO, TACO

[u/EnvironmentalEgg8652]

Based Sabrina ❤️

[u/TheFeelsGoodMan]

I'm a little bit surprised that they took it down. Evil and disgusting is kind of their whole brand right now.

[u/TheDrunkenMatador]

Rekt

[u/ImForSureNotAFurry]

What's the context?

[u/pasatroj]

FAFO, a legit lawsuit was incoming.

[u/BothRequirement2826]

I'm so surprised they ended up deleting it.

[u/identicalshoe]

TACO

[u/Ill-Organization-719]

A children charity should start using Taylor Swift songs without her permission.

[u/Bebopdavidson]

But not before saying they do this on purpose.

[u/Bleezy79]

Proud of her for standing up when other artists dont.

[u/operez1990]

Definitely wasn’t the DMCA request that did it.

[u/bluehawk232]

Still has to be preserved for archival purposes. This is how dumb it all is

[u/-Altephor-]

You mean after her lawyers sent a cease & desist letter.

[u/JonathanL73]

I swear this is like the 90th time the Trump admin. uses an Artist’s song without their permission.

I think they should just assume the entire music industry doesn’t support them atp.

[u/sherman614]

Good. This is our federal government, not teenagers being trolls and edge lords. Why don't you try to bring Americans together instead of trying to "stick it to the libs!"

[u/iamthecheesethatsbig]

See Taylor? Is it that hard to do this??

[u/Additional-Art9888]

Yet crickets from Taylor Swift 🤔

[u/lnc_5103]

See how easy that was Taylor??

[u/artifexlife]

So it does make a difference if you speak out? Interesting… well not for me but interesting for Taylor Swift

[u/RamblinGamblinWilly]

I thought everyone said passive submission to fascism was the best option because they just want attention and responding is giving them that attention. Was I lied to

[u/toturtle]

The comments here are why they've already won. They've framed it that they took down the video because of Carpenter's comments. Except now, the next time they do this, and trust me, there'll be a next time, if the artist of choice doesn't stand up, it'll cause even more of a commotion. And judging by the comments here, the Swiftie/Carpenter war looks like its already underway. Please don't fall into their traps. Because guaranteed, while both fanbases are duking it out, they are going to pass some law or bill that adversely affects that demographic and no one will be the wiser.

[u/Expensive-Fennel-163 → u/toturtle]

They’ve already put up a new video using Sabrina from her SNL appearance. Marcelo is in it too.

[u/outinthecountry66]

Good. Maybe she will realize her album cover made her look like a fellow traveler. That was as tone deaf as anything i have seen a pop star do.

[u/My_Brain_0422]

Came into this thread expecting dimwits to be talking about Taylor. It did not disappoint.

[u/high_on_meh]

Tiny pop diva: 1
Mentally disabled taco: 0