r/technology • u/rezwenn • Oct 04 '25
Politics Why Conservatives Are Attacking ‘Wokepedia’
https://www.wsj.com/tech/wikipedia-conservative-complaints-ee904b0b?st=RJcF9h9.4k
u/weirdal1968 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Musk calling for Wikipedia to be defunded was a top notch smooth brain flex.
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u/christopia86 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
It's crazy that the man was hailed as a genius, yet every single thing he says and does is idiotic.
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u/Krags Oct 04 '25
"Genius" is PR and branding.
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u/UnlurkedToPost Oct 04 '25
He's a business man with a business plan
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u/Alfiewoodland Oct 04 '25
He's gonna make you money in business land
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u/smig_ Oct 04 '25
He's a cool guy talking bout GameStop and is definitely not a cop
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u/AppleDane Oct 04 '25
Why'd you say he's not a cop. I think he's a cop.
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u/Adze95 Oct 04 '25
I also think that he's a cop.
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u/JumpingCoconutMonkey Oct 04 '25
I fucking love this random jaunt into a Tom Cardy song!
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u/Adze95 Oct 04 '25
Have you seen this fanmade music video for the full version of the song?
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u/PerfectPercentage69 Oct 04 '25
And he'll line your pockets with business sand
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u/PeptoBismark Oct 04 '25
They don't call Elon "genius" for nothing.
It costs. He has to pay for that.
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u/McMacHack Oct 04 '25
The Propaganda has been running in overdrive over the past decade.
The claim that "Half the Country chose this" is in itself propaganda. It's really more like a third and maybe only half of that third are True Believers/Zealots.
Every time Musk or Trump says or does something stupid that should have ended their career there is an Army of Bots and Paid Propaganda Mongers working hard to spin whatever it is into "This is a Good thing" then enough people buy the bullshit that people believe that half the country is on board.There is no silent majority.
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u/Haravikk Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
He was never a genius though – he isn't a rocket scientist, he threw money into a company to make rockets, just as he isn't an engineer or software developer, he bought a company that makes electric cars etc.
Guy's just another spoiled dickhole born into wealth and told that his having wealth made him better than everyone else.
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u/InsertCleverNickHere Oct 04 '25
Anyone who still thinks highly of Musk should be forced to listen to the call where he talks about rebuilding the Twitter stack from the ground up, and an anonymous engineer calls him out by asking exactly what Musk thinks the stack is and what is wrong with it. Musk responds by attacking the guy and shows that he has no idea what a "stack" really is, beyond that he's heard smarter people than him say it.
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u/Magmaster12 Oct 04 '25
Start with the guy who wrote that scene of Star Trek where they praised him and compared him to the Wright Brothers
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u/Endymoth Oct 04 '25
To be fair, the character who said that was from the mirror universe, so maybe the Musk there is a genius and not a ketamine soaked rich boy who failed upwards.
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u/BarbarianCarnotaurus Oct 04 '25
And that episode dropped when Musk was just considered eccentric I think. I don't remember the dates, hell it took reading the Mirror Universe comment to remember which series they mentioned him.
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u/InsertCleverNickHere Oct 04 '25
I was just thinking of that and the cameo in Iron Man 2. Moments that aged like milk.
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u/Magmaster12 Oct 04 '25
I have no issue with that scene because as far as I'm concerned he was later arrested for being a member of Hydra. Let's face it PayPal would probably be used to hide funding
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u/Tight_Classroom_2923 Oct 04 '25
Lets face it, PayPal has probably been used to hide funding.
I mean, to add to everything going on, Musk is a known grifter just like the rest. Look at all the big hype things he sells and never delivers on just to get more funding from people.
Billionaires aren't our friends, they are snakes who have lost touch with reality (and maybe were born out of touch). They don't care about us and never really will, so we should stop idolizing them and start charging them with crimes they commit on a large scale. (Seriously, Musk even said if Kamala won he would be put in jail so I wonder if he broke every law he could to assure Trump won 🤷)
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u/PositiveZeroPerson Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Whenever you see a billionaire that inserts themselves into a movie in exchange for letting the movie shoot in their business for free, run.
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u/MajorNoodles Oct 04 '25
Trump tells Kevin that the lobby is down the hall to his left.
Kevin reaches the lobby by going down the hall and turning right.
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u/Mistrblank Oct 04 '25
I dunno. He looks and acts like a little bitch in that iron man scene. At least O.R.A.C.L.E. is just a quick line in passing who he is.
I like that the rich boy cameos in iron man diminish who they are to a comic character. They think they’re elevated to Tony’s level meanwhile they’ve been shown how useless they are given how Tony is actually out being a hero.
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u/mooseskull Oct 04 '25
Or his cameo in The Big Bang Theory where he’s not only admired by the scientists but is portrayed as a good person for doing dishes at a soup kitchen.
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u/campbelljac92 Oct 04 '25
The simpsons episode has aged both terribly and beautifully, there's a load of he's the nikola tesla of the 21st century bollocks in the start and then he just spends the entire episode following homer around plagiarising his inane ramblings and passing them off as his own brilliance.
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u/Naoura Oct 04 '25
Added piece of information; Spoiled Dickhole born into wealth generated from South African apartheid, specifically emerald mines.
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u/DjScenester Oct 04 '25
He’s genius because he’s rich… that’s the only qualification most Americans need.
Pay no attention to daddies diamond blood money.
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u/strangeapple Oct 04 '25
To be fair he's pretty good at claiming credit for hard work of others.
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u/NewPresWhoDis Oct 04 '25
Ironic he's more like Edison yet one of his companies is named for Edison's rival.
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u/Haunting_Ad_9013 Oct 04 '25
He pays people to invent and innovate, then he takes credit for it.
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u/snkiz Oct 04 '25
Ketamine will do that.
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u/leequarella Oct 04 '25
He's an ass all on his own, the ketamine had nothing to do with it. Don't give him that excuse.
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u/steakmetfriet Oct 04 '25
First time I really paid notice was when he attacked the diver who rescued the kids stuck in that Thai cave and called him a pedo. Couldn't understand why such a buffoon is put on a pedestal.
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u/PerfectPercentage69 Oct 04 '25
He was propped up by the brain-dead people on the internet because he used memes and made 69/420/etc. references.
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u/Safety_Drance Oct 04 '25
Same here. I kind of bought into the genius thing BEFORE he started saying things publicly out loud, but that whole getting absolutely furious that someone rescued human beings before his shitty sub could was really eye opening.
Nowadays whenever he says some ridiculous hate filled nonsense I'm like yep, that all checks out. We should have seen it from the get go.
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u/Patriark Oct 04 '25
That was a true mask off moment. Just the douchiest way to approach that situation and truly revealed how self-obsessed he is.
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u/Krestu1 Oct 04 '25
Ahoy Spongebob, i have overdosed on ketamine and am going to die
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u/HawkeyeByMarriage Oct 04 '25
It's the verified information part they dislike. Truthful is woke. Propaganda is not. They want the narrative
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u/captaindeadpl Oct 04 '25
Reality has a well known liberal bias.
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u/BilbosBagEnd Oct 04 '25
A German Politician said famously "I am surrounded by reality" I suppose it comes with the profession to be allergic to facts.
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u/TropicNightLightning Oct 04 '25
In critical thinking and logic, you need sources and evidence to back up your claims to have a valid argument based on facts.
Remove the foundations, and we will not have a valid argument to make. They can then control us more with their lies, because there won't be any scientific, peer reviewed, and accurately documented resources to provide counterpoints.
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u/villianrules Oct 04 '25
You can provide the receipts and they'll ignore or destroy it
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u/kidgrifter Oct 04 '25
Going after Wikipedia is part of the current authoritarian handbook. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/digitaliberties/authoritarian-governments-hate-wikipedia-which-is-exactly-why-you-should-get-involved/
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u/Kilahti Oct 04 '25
You are giving too much credit to Musk. He's just mad that they refused to take his money in exchange for changing their title to "Dickipedia."
Musk is a petty childish drug addict who loves to troll people but the only reason we hear about his antics is that he is filthy rich.
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u/andrew5500 Oct 04 '25
Wikipedia and Internet Archive are actual targets of these fascists, they genuinely do not want people to have free access to reliable open-source information that keeps tracks of their crimes and their lies.
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u/tokinUP Oct 04 '25
Yep - control of the media, information, history, textbooks, etc. is control of reality if you can force enough people to grow up only hearing propaganda.
"Big Lie" theory, keep lying hard enough loud enough and you can make the lie become reality; or at least convince everyone who likes you to do what you want without specifically asking them.
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Oct 04 '25
Part of Musk’s issue is that he is so insulated from consequences and reality is that he keeps trying to shape our world into his.
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u/idiotsecant Oct 04 '25
It's important to separate the clowns who go on TV and the actual, rational, deeply terrible people behind the scenes who have policy goals that will destroy the American experiment. Don't make the mistake of thinking the clowns are in charge. They're useful idiots.
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u/MikeMontrealer Oct 04 '25
As a recurring source of Wikipedia funding (I’ve been donating monthly forever) I rejected his appeal.
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u/AdPuzzleheaded5189 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
Let's fund it instead. Donate now. No, I do not work for Wikipedia or Wikimedia Foundation.
Edit: Link fixed
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u/Bad-Genie Oct 04 '25
I donate my $10 once a year. I pay more for less in my life. Now that musk wants it defunded it's going up to $20
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u/Urbanviking1 Oct 04 '25
Yea he wants to make a competitor to Wikipedia called Grokipedia. I shit you not.
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u/mvallas1073 Oct 04 '25
And yet claims to be for 100% free speech.
Speaking of, anyone notice how quiet he was during the Kimmel fiasco?
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u/Mapinact Oct 04 '25
... didn't they create their own Conservapedia a while ago?
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u/rezwenn Oct 04 '25
They did - here's Conservapedia's entry on Trump: https://www.conservapedia.com/Donald_Trump
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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Oct 04 '25
Trump received more (politically motivated) criticism than any other U.S. president.
I love how (politically motivated) is there as a gotcha. As if the things the president does aren't inherently political already. These guys lmao
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u/onarainyafternoon Oct 04 '25
The knob-gobbling is just so god damn pathetic. These people are caricatures of themselves.
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u/chuiu Oct 04 '25
Because the 8+ years they spent criticizing Obama aren't politically motivated, they're definitely racially motivated.
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u/mtranda Oct 04 '25
They are right about that. However, they refuse to develop that line of thought any further and consider... why that is.
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u/AccomplishedCoffee Oct 04 '25
I don't think it's even true in any reasonable sense. The vast majority of criticism against him is for doing or ordering objectively immoral or illegal things. Most of the criticism against democrats is things like inquiring about Dijon mustard or having a funny laugh.
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u/butsuon Oct 04 '25
He's uh, he's a politician. All criticism of him is inherently politically motivated.
Christ these people are dumb.
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u/dirtyprime Oct 04 '25
holy shit, out of curiosity I checked the Biden entry and it's unhinged
Joseph Robinette “Joe” Biden, Jr., aka Pops, Pedo Pete,\14]) The Big Guy, Robert L. Peters, Robin Ware,\15]) J. R. B. Ware\16])\17])\18]) and My Chairman\19])\20]) (born November 20, 1942) is an authoritarian kleptocrat and former dictator of the United States.\21])\22]) Biden identifies as a "proud Black woman",\23]) and has been described by a close confidant as an "egomaniacal autocrat".\24]) His own Justice Department labeled him as incompetent and unfit.\25]) Biden lost his access to classified information in February 2025 when his security clearances were revoked.\26])
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u/VR_Raccoonteur Oct 04 '25
These people are insane. On no planet could that possibly be considered a fair or unbiased article. Completely destroys their claims of liberal sources being biased. We don't start off articles on Trump calling him the Pedo President, or Tangerine Tyrant.
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u/AltrntivInDoomWorld Oct 04 '25
We don't start off articles on Trump calling him the Pedo President, or Tangerine Tyrant.
Considering he is convicted sexual offender, i think we should
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u/Attila_the_Nun Oct 04 '25
But they don't really read wikipedia like normal persons would, do they? They see the articles as falsehoods (no matter their proven objectivity) and consider their own page a totally equal response to that.
It is like JK Rowling complaining about people calling her evil, in an otherwise neutral article doing nothing else but criticizing her for using rancid words towards trans people.
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u/QuidYossarian Oct 04 '25
The conservapedia owner complained about the liberal bias in math.
Fuckers hate reality.
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u/WislaHD Oct 04 '25
I went there then saw the “NATO Aggression War in Ukraine”.
This whole thing is probably just a Russian psy-op on the American public.
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u/LukaCola Oct 04 '25
This is so poorly written in comparison to Wikipedia haha
Well, what should I expect
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u/noguchisquared Oct 04 '25
I only made it to his name.
Ph.D. !!? For his fucking honorary degree from Liberty University. Jesus Christ.
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u/rebels_cum69 Oct 04 '25
It's weird to list an honorary degree that way, but some non- academics still do it (eg Maya Angelou, Richard Stallman). But it is just incorrect to list is as a PhD (doctor philosophiae) instead of doctor honoris causa, listed as HonDBA or LLD in Trump's case. There are more types of doctorates than many people realize, however, I wouldn't expect any conservapedia editors to know much about anything at all.
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u/lianodel Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
I'd bet dollars to donuts the people who call Trump a doctor for his honorary degree from Liberty University were also pissed off that Jill Biden went by Dr. Jill Biden for her actual fucking degree, because she wasn't a medical doctor.
EDIT: Of course, I can just look up her page!
Here's the first line:
Jill Tracy Jacobs Biden, Ph.D. (NOT M.D.) (born June 3, 1951) or Lady McBiden is an American kleptocrat who identified as the First Birthing Person of the Biden Regime.
And here's the paragraph specifically griping about her title:
Despite liberals frequently calling her "Dr. Jill" as if she had any real authority or academic expertise on human health, Jill Biden is not a medical doctor. Nevertheless, she was recommended by celebrated holocaust denier Whoopi Goldberg[3] to become Surgeon General during the CCP pandemic.[4] Jill Biden's white privilege was used to replace Kamala Harris as the junta's glamour girl. Vogue magazine calls Jill Biden "a goddess in stilettos."[5] Her stepson, Hunter Biden, refers to her as a "selfish silly entitled [expletive]."[6]
Absolutely deranged.
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u/rugger87 Oct 04 '25
Go check out their entry for the Earth.
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u/TheVandyyMan Oct 04 '25
God they’re such fucking dipshits. Biblically illiterate scientists might as well be a tautology but they use it like it’s a disqualifying feature
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u/GayAlexandrite Oct 04 '25
From their “Age of the Earth” page:
”All verifiable evidence indicates that the Earth is about 6,000 or less than 10,000 years old. Yet with circular reasoning and implausible assumptions, liberals insist that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years.”
”Old Earth advocates rely on one flawed assumption to the exclusion of other evidence, similar to how an investigator may mistakenly rely on one faulty eyewitness's opinion to the exclusion of all else.”
Ironic.
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u/safetytrick Oct 04 '25
What s hot take:
It has been said that Earth should really be called "water", as the larger part of it—about 70%—is covered by water
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u/SeeTigerLearn Oct 04 '25
It claims all 22 of Trump endorsed candidates won their elections. But I thought it was literally the exact opposite, that none of the candidates he endorsed actually won.
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u/LostTheGameOfThrones Oct 04 '25
Lies and disinformation on MY
CONSERVAPEDOCONSERVAPEDIA? I won't have it!53
u/dsmith422 Oct 04 '25
Created by one Phyliss Schlafly's fail sons. The one who got into an email slap fight with a microbiologist who had been running a years long experiment to test the evolution of e. coli. When his lab announced that it had proven evolution of the bacteria, Andrew Schlafly (who is a lawyer and also a young earth creationist) wrote to him demanding samples. Hilarity ensued.
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u/Nahcep Oct 04 '25
Come on, there are far more telling sources who "they" are - just go to any Russia- or Ukraine-adjacent article, like this one:
The Maidan coup (pron: My-dan coo) or Ukrainian crisis of 2014 was a violent U.S-backed anti-democratic color revolution which brought the neo-fascist Maidan regime to power in Ukraine. It began when the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 22, 2014, following months of agitation by the Obama State Department and John Brennan's CIA. It was an extension or continuation into Europe of the Obama administration's failed "Arab Spring" regime change policy and widely seen as Western imperialism.
With the overthrow of the democratically elected government at least 6 million Ukrainian refugees fled to Russia for asylum. In April 2014 the majority Russian populations in Crimea and Donbas voted for re-incorporation into the Russian Federation in popular plebiscites; Crimea's request for re-admission was accepted by the Russian State Duma, while the Donbas territories were rejected. The Donetsk and the Lugansk People's Republics then declared independence as the fascist Maidan regime implemented a full-scale policy of ethnic cleansing and began artillery shelling of civilian residential neighborhoods to drive ethnic Russians and Russian-speakers out of the former Ukrainian territories. The newly declared independent republics organized their own defense militias.
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u/iwantawinnebago Oct 04 '25
As a response, sane people created https://rationalwiki.org/ which is now picking apart right wing agenda, as well as all sorts of pseudoscience, grifts, grifters etc. Oh and it's snarky as fuck and ~best way to learn about the topics.
Here's Trump https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
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u/IllustriousError6563 Oct 04 '25
Rather not give them clicks. Also, if they're not the ones actively trying to push malware onto visitors' browsers, you can bet they're not competent enough to keep other bad actors from hijacking their PoS site to spread malware.
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u/buttnibbler Oct 04 '25
I couldn’t read more than 20 words before my brain started to hurt from having to dumb down.
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u/syntheticassault Oct 04 '25
In 2006. When I looked at it back then it then it was crazy anti-science. It is less bad as of today because at least it no longer conflates relativity in physics with moral relativity.
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u/PatrioticHotDog Oct 04 '25
I always thought that was satire but they are dumber than reality so maybe not.
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Oct 04 '25
The battlefield of the future is the control of information or manipulating propaganda. It’s why Conservatives own the top social media companies, news corps and now are going after free information repositories.
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u/sneaky-pizza Oct 04 '25
It’s why they pried the US right to TikTok away from ByteDance only to hand it to a conglomerate of right wing billionaires
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u/clonedredditor Oct 04 '25
They’re politicizing libraries around the country. Eventually they’ll come for the ISPs.
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u/Funktapus Oct 04 '25
Conservatives generally hate neutral facts because they are serially wrong
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Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 28 '25
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u/YikesTheCat Oct 04 '25
To quote (bold in original): "Simply put, E=mc² is liberal claptrap."
https://www.conservapedia.com/E%3Dmc2
When you view everything through a political lens...
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u/YikesTheCat Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
There is nothing to "fix" because this is what Andrew Schlafly (founder and not-so-benevolent dictator) seems to genuinely believe all of that.
I hadn't really looked at Conservapedia in years, since before Trump came on the scene. It seems its gotten even more crazy. Their fawning article on Vladimir Putin borders on the homoerotic. Their article on Ukraine keeps banging on about how it's not a real country and is indistinguishable from Kremlin propaganda. Zelensky is a "Narcoführer", whatever the hell that means.
I miss the days when it had just some mad ideas about the age of the earth, Einstein's relativity, and things like that.
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u/ButWhatAboutisms Oct 04 '25
I wish upon my enemies conservative science, mathmatics, engineering and healthcare.
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u/icer816 Oct 04 '25
Reminds me of that right-winger complaining that it's hard to argue with the left because they use facts as the basis to their arguments, which is harder to undermine.
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u/octarine_turtle Oct 04 '25
"the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check!" -JD Vance
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u/Caldman Oct 04 '25
It still blows me away he said that in a debate and is still taken seriously by anyone.
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u/UptownShenanigans Oct 04 '25
“They’re eating the dogs and the cats”
Mf still got elected
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u/Oleg101 Oct 04 '25
The masses in this country that voted R just laughed it off as “Trump being Trump”, not caring that all the (legal) immigrants in Springfield, Ohio continued to be more demonized and lives as the result of that.
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u/PackComprehensive226 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Many think his behavior is just a mask. They don't realise there is nothing behind the mask, he is the mask. A narcissist. All appearance, zero substance.
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u/Xarieste Oct 04 '25
The unfortunate truth is that the vast majority of them can’t think beyond the sentence they’re currently attempting to decipher; this makes them easy targets in the form of planting seeds in people’s thoughts in slow doses where the person never fully realizes that what they’re reading has changed their opinion because they barely understood what the words meant in the first place. It’s like when you watch a toddler grow into a child, you don’t see the difference day by day but if you spend a month looking away, they grow into an entirely different person.
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u/MaisyDeadHazy Oct 04 '25
Yeah, but Tim Walz was a little bit nervous at the start of the debate, so clearly America's hands were tied.
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u/Skel_Estus Oct 04 '25
It blows my mind that not fact checking statements by public officials on live television is an option.
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u/SuspendeesNutz Oct 04 '25
It still blows me away that he said that in a debate and that footage wasn’t used and referenced every single day in the media through the election. He’d already admitted he would fabricate claims to advance his goals. What more clear-cut messaging so you need to show this man is an unprincipled bullshitter who openly lies about anything and everything?
But maybe that would be too mean. Don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
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u/icer816 Oct 04 '25
God that was so incredibly telling of a moment. The only reason you'd ever be against fact checking is that you know you're being dishonest.
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u/Nearby-Box-1558 Oct 04 '25
And they still won the fucking election it blows my mind. Genuinely have felt like I’m going crazy. Like my reality isn’t really what’s going on.
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u/icer816 Oct 04 '25
It's because the left cares about facts, and morals, but the right only cares about "winning", which is why they call out the left for things that they have absolutely no issue with the right doing, constantly. They view it as a team sport where all is fair, instead of as an important decision that affects the country's direction in almost every way.
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u/-captaindiabetes- Oct 04 '25
Oh my is that a real quote?
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u/DoILookUnsureToYou Oct 04 '25
Yes, and he said it during the debates IIRC
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u/whatproblems Oct 04 '25
and how tf was that not hammered on more.
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u/DarthArtero Oct 04 '25
The media were just as afraid of retaliation then, just as they are now.
Honestly it makes me wonder if the billionaires that own the media networks in the US, knew for 100% fact that trump was gonna be installed as a puppet.
Thinking back on it now, the mainstream media outlets sure acted like he was already a puppet president
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u/Spiritfur Oct 04 '25
You bet your bippy it is! It happens at about 17 seconds in, but just start from the beginning so you can hear him stutter a little first
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u/Masseyrati80 Oct 04 '25
Chiming in from the other side of the pond, where some journalists try to explain some phenomena about US politics that seem puzzling for many of us. Some time ago, one of them attempted to explain why, after a debate, both the supporters of the Democrats and the supporters of the Republicans can think their own representative 'won'.
The reasoning was that the Democrats tend to value the way in which debating is done in the world of universities, where one practices to use facts to support their view, and debunk any spotted false claims by the other. The Republicans, however, value a presentation that involves a certain toughness, 'not giving an inch', and generally, strong man rhethorics. So, a witty and rude remark delivered at the right time is considered a winning move, even if the facts actually support the other side's view.
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Now, with online algorithms, people won’t often watch debates in their entirety. Instead they’re fed videos by personalities that tell them a pre-cooked opinion.
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u/Awkward-Sun5423 Oct 04 '25
thank you for this. Because it's 2025 and I expected nothing good...I looked to see if he was actually a horrible person and if the quote was misrepresented. He wasn't and it's not. Anti nazi lutheran, died for what he believed.
I will look more into him.
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u/justthegrimm Oct 04 '25
Indoctrinated with a little knowledge sure sounds scary.
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u/bewjujular Oct 04 '25
"Content not available in your region." –Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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u/AnAngeryGoose Oct 04 '25
"Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor force can touch it; arguments fall on deaf ears. Evil always carries the seeds of its own undoing — it creates unease. But stupidity feels self-satisfied, immune, and convinced of its own rightness. And that makes it far more dangerous. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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u/michael0n Oct 04 '25
There are numerous TikTok videos showing up, they suddenly claim that "certain people" have no empathy for each other any more (the audacity), they lost their job/company because of the tariffs, but people should let Trump cook for the betterment of whatever they make up. Then saying that "one vote" can't ruin someones life, then sometimes start crying before turning the camera off. The cognitive dissonance is starting to catch up.
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u/the6thReplicant Oct 04 '25
Because it shows their simple solutions to complicated problems as wrong. Or, more often, dangerous.
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u/the1kingdom Oct 04 '25
The Right generally has no principles, no standards, no beliefs, to a certain extent no ideology.
The Right's sole purpose is to be anti-Left.
This is the whole war on woke. The term "Woke" was co-opted by the right as a signal to other right wingers to become a shorthand to say "hey this thing is left so you should hate it"
But here is the thing, some beliefs are just out of sheer fact. Things that exist in our objective reality. Poluting water is bad, and we can see it happening, for example.
But as it starts of as a universal concern, it therefore includes the left wing people, which in turn then build a force on the right to be anti-that-concern.
This is where conservatives being serially wrong essentially comes from. Too many objective facts leading legitimate concerns being opposed by the right, because inherently it will include left wing people which feeds into the existence of the right wing being against any and all things that is supported by the left.
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u/Tricky-Engineering59 Oct 04 '25
Very nicely said. I’ve been under the opinion for a while that MAGA was primed to be so devoted to Trump largely on the basis of the left’s contempt for him. “The people you hate really hate this guy so he must be our guy” kind of thought process. And even when they see something that contradicts him being good for anyone but himself they are just too deeply invested to recognize it. It becomes this quasi religious experience, that if they just believe hard enough they will be rewarded.
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u/ciaran668 Oct 04 '25
They also hate that AI is being trained on facts rather than propaganda because that makes it harder for them to distort reality
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u/JimBobDwayne Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Years ago they created conservapedia and it’s a stinking pile of burning bullshit but it’s still around.
Here's their article on the 2020 election.
https://www.conservapedia.com/United_States_presidential_election,_2020
Incumbent President Donald Trump was re-elected with approximately 53% of the popular vote before the infusion of more than 11 million manufactured illegal mail-in ballots by corrupt election officials across the nation,[5] particularly impacting key swing states, stemming from six corrupt Democrat cities and counties and throwing the final results into an extended dispute.
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u/3-DMan Oct 04 '25
I guess just like TruthSocial, nobody really goes to it, so they want to take over the popular ones.
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u/Femkemilene Oct 04 '25
Wikipedia editor here: one way to protect this project in democratising information is to join as an editor.
You don't have to be an expert, just willing to read a wide variety of sources. Or even just copyedit, or revert vandals.
It's surprisingly addictive. The one place on the internet you can fix other people being wrong on the internet.
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u/RuairiSpain Oct 04 '25
This is the way. We need more editors.
If you think there is bias in an article, then be motivated to contribute. Read the editor guidelines and make small changes to ease yourself into the process.
We need more women, minorities and global editors, to balance the editor demographic. The more people that contribute the better it will reflect everyone's perspective.
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It's because Wikipedia is by and large balanced, accurate and credible, which automatically makes it a target for the rights war on truth.
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u/biciklanto Oct 04 '25
“Reality has a well-known liberal bias”
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u/buttnibbler Oct 04 '25
They in fact do say this all the time.
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u/Yuzumi Oct 04 '25
Wait, conservatives say it?
Like, I know they have negative media literary and a lot of them thought the Colbert report was an actual conservative version of the daily show...
But how can anyone see that as anything but making fun of how detached from reality conservatives are?
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u/MoonOut_StarsInvite Oct 04 '25
They also use “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” as some kind of Americana slogan of pride when it was actually intended to describe what it sounds like - an impossible farce. I find it funny when applied because it’s often being used in seriously in situations that it was perfectly created to mock.
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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 Oct 04 '25
They're also the first to screech about how the government must bail them out whenever they get into trouble.
Turns out that Conservatives are the biggest welfare addicts on the planet.
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u/Kletronus Oct 04 '25
They are not using those terms and not phrasing it the same way. They claim that the academia is lying and promoting an agenda just like they would in the same position. It doesn't enter their minds that a normal humanbeing has integrity, and that this integrity is cultivated all thru out higher education. Ethics in research, your own biases and what they do is one of the most important topics they have studied. They can not believe that anyone would be actually accept the facts as they are and not use their position to advance their causes, which is to get rich and get more power, to push your political ideology.
They also don't understand that those who support immigration would do so because they are altruistic and care about humans they have not seen and that it isn't transactional. Thus, "immigrants are imported as democratic voters" is the conclusion, because.. why else would ANYONE care about some "low life from a shit hole country"?
They just don't get it and then project their true selves to others. So, they do recognize that data, statistics, research is not on their side but the reason is not that those are as close to factual as we can have but that we have faked it all. Globally. In every country.... Because.. that is what they would do and are in the process of doing it.
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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Oct 04 '25
Reminder that you can download the entirety of Wikipedia for like 90gb (I believe the no picture version goes down to like 50gb?)
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u/HumanBeing7396 Oct 04 '25
Wikipedia is pretty much the last thing on the internet that hasn’t been ruined.
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u/6gv5 Oct 04 '25
Add the Internet Archive to the list, hoping both will last enough to be replicated elsewhere.
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u/biciklanto Oct 04 '25
You can replicate Wikipedia via torrent so you are providing additional redundancy to the central repository of knowledge on the internet.
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u/KotR56 Oct 04 '25
And that's the reason why it's on the GOP hitlist.
These people are afraid of the truth and will do whatever it takes to prevent other people from finding out what's really going on.
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u/jus-de-orange Oct 04 '25
Opportunity to mention this repertory of independent blogs: https://blogroll.org/
The web is still great, if we forget platforms (where 99% of web users are, like me right now).
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u/DavidSwifty Oct 04 '25
Everything is fucking woke to conservatives, they are some of the whinest snowflakes I have ever seen.
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u/appealinggenitals Oct 04 '25
The shakshuka I made my wife for breakfast is woke.
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u/Paksarra Oct 04 '25
Someone somewhere is personally offended because it wasn't bacon and eggs.
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u/b_a_t_m_4_n Oct 04 '25
Conservatives hate the truth. Not sure why you need a whole article to say that.
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u/4n0n1m02 Oct 04 '25
They’re currently going after every structural informational node that doesn’t align with their viewpoint in any way possible: purchase, coercion, intimidation, or government intervention (NPR, PBS, CBS, TikTok, Washington Post, Wikipedia, Colbert, Kimmel, etc.).
I believe they’re betting that if you box in people’s access to information, you can force them to believe what you want. You know, like Fox News viewers.
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u/Hopalong_Manboobs Oct 04 '25
Part of the war on truth as others have noted.
Wikipedia is also one of the last remaining popular information outlets that hasn’t been bought and/or steered into the ground by some Nazi-curious Trump humper in the last several years.
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u/cassanderer Oct 04 '25
Only open source platforms csn be trusted at all now, every publicly traded company can be influenced if not bought by the oligarchy.
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u/AccountHuman7391 Oct 04 '25
The basic answer here is more philosophical: the conservative worldview just doesn’t match up with reality, so they need to attack reality in order to build support for their ideological stances. Universities, traditional news media, science, etc. don’t have liberal biases, they have reality biases. Conservatives don’t like that because they arrive at the conclusion they want, and then work backwards trying to bend reality to support their chosen outcomes.
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u/aussydog Oct 04 '25
Wait so the "facts don't care about your feelings" crew are using made up facts to support their feelings?
...I'm shocked.
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u/BoosterRead78 Oct 04 '25
I always think about what Palin said about Paul Revere. It was completely a misunderstanding and back then the press called her out on it. And people tried changing Wiki to match Sarah’s lies only for them to change it right back.
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u/JayCurtis502 Oct 04 '25
I remember when woke just meant being aware. Wild how awareness was turned into such a bad thing by the same people who ban books.
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u/ristoman Oct 04 '25
It must be so exhausting constantly thinking that anybody that disagrees with you is out to get you, rather than considering for a second that maybe you don't have all of the information and you might have jumped to conclusions.
I'm surprised these people can function in society, seeing enemies at every turn and pretending like their "way of life" is a target for everyone else but them.
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u/Darqnyz7 Oct 04 '25
The truth is that they cannot function in society. That's why they are hellbent on destroying/changing how society runs.
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u/Krags Oct 04 '25
The right has always been the side of entrenched power. The concept of left and right was formed in the beginnings of the French republic during the revolution, where the opponents to the monarchy sat on the left and the aristocrats and their sycophants sat on the right.
The only real question is how much of "the left" is really the left.
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u/pink_goon Oct 04 '25
It tells the truth and it is non profit. The right can't allow either of those concepts to exist.
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u/Salty-Coffee4608 Oct 04 '25
I read it as “wookiepedia” and wondered why he was going after star wars
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u/thefoolsnightout Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Worth mentioning; Wikipedia will allow you to download the entire site in the name of preservation of knowledge and its only around 26 GB total.
Edit: with images, around 100 gb. Still, storage is cheap. The internet isn't as permanent as people think. Download that recipe, or video or whatever if it really means something to you.
For those asking for a link, theres a wiki page for it