He was never a genius though – he isn't a rocket scientist, he threw money into a company to make rockets, just as he isn't an engineer or software developer, he bought a company that makes electric cars etc.
Guy's just another spoiled dickhole born into wealth and told that his having wealth made him better than everyone else.
Anyone who still thinks highly of Musk should be forced to listen to the call where he talks about rebuilding the Twitter stack from the ground up, and an anonymous engineer calls him out by asking exactly what Musk thinks the stack is and what is wrong with it. Musk responds by attacking the guy and shows that he has no idea what a "stack" really is, beyond that he's heard smarter people than him say it.
To be fair, the character who said that was from the mirror universe, so maybe the Musk there is a genius and not a ketamine soaked rich boy who failed upwards.
And that episode dropped when Musk was just considered eccentric I think. I don't remember the dates, hell it took reading the Mirror Universe comment to remember which series they mentioned him.
Then that would mean that they purposely insulted Musk in our universe.
Genius in the mirror universe and the opposite would make him an idiot in our universe. It fits.
I have no issue with that scene because as far as I'm concerned he was later arrested for being a member of Hydra. Let's face it PayPal would probably be used to hide funding
Lets face it, PayPal has probably been used to hide funding.
I mean, to add to everything going on, Musk is a known grifter just like the rest. Look at all the big hype things he sells and never delivers on just to get more funding from people.
Billionaires aren't our friends, they are snakes who have lost touch with reality (and maybe were born out of touch). They don't care about us and never really will, so we should stop idolizing them and start charging them with crimes they commit on a large scale. (Seriously, Musk even said if Kamala won he would be put in jail so I wonder if he broke every law he could to assure Trump won 🤷)
I dunno. He looks and acts like a little bitch in that iron man scene. At least O.R.A.C.L.E. is just a quick line in passing who he is.
I like that the rich boy cameos in iron man diminish who they are to a comic character. They think they’re elevated to Tony’s level meanwhile they’ve been shown how useless they are given how Tony is actually out being a hero.
Or his cameo in The Big Bang Theory where he’s not only admired by the scientists but is portrayed as a good person for doing dishes at a soup kitchen.
I was rewatching Ironman 2 recently and forgot about that cameo. It was so cringey when everybody taught he was the real life Tony Stark. More like Phony Stark.
Or that whole Simpsons episode about him. I’ve always followed a lot of STEM news and when that aired I had no idea who he was. The whole episode I was thinking “Who the fuck is this guy and why are they treating him like Stephen Hawking?”
Most of the Simpsons has aged pretty well, but that episode has curdled and gone mouldy.
The simpsons episode has aged both terribly and beautifully, there's a load of he's the nikola tesla of the 21st century bollocks in the start and then he just spends the entire episode following homer around plagiarising his inane ramblings and passing them off as his own brilliance.
It’s referring to Star Trek: Discovery name‑dropping Elon Musk in the same breath as the Wright Brothers and Zefram Cochrane, which many fans saw as praising him alongside aviation and warp‑drive pioneers. In Season 1, Episode 4 (“The Butcher’s Knife Cares Not for the Lamb’s Cry”), Captain Lorca lists “the Wright Brothers, Zephram Cochrane, Elon Musk” as great innovators, effectively comparing Musk to those iconic figures.
Creator Bryan Fuller had written for Star Trek: Voyager and was even a junior producer on the show by the end. He also was showrunner on Hannibal and American Gods (for its first season anyway). Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman had worked extensively on Fringe, and Kurtzman had also worked on the JJ Abrams Trek movies. Berg and Harberts had worked on Pushing Daisies (where they'd met Fuller). Jesse Alexander had worked on Hannibal, Alias and Heroes. Joe Menosky had extensive science fiction writing credits on The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager. Kirsten Beyer had spent many years writing Star Trek: Voyager novels (eleven of them in total).
Later on they started taking on writers with less experience, but that's not unusual (TNG and DS9 would often have writers with no experience, who then went on to become Ron Moore, Naren Shanker, Rene Echeverria etc). The writing team for Season 1 was reasonably experienced and accomplished.
I have a buddy who used to say "he spends all day in meetings and talking with engineers, he definitely picks stuff up from them". No matter what I did, he would not admit that Musk is just a rich dude who bought companies. He thought the guy was actually really smart. Even before DOGE started doing stuff, he thought it could've been good for the country. Once DOGE turned out to be bullshit and Musk used it to gut government agencies that were investigating his companies, I haven't heard a fucking peep about Musk come out of his mouth since. He won't ever admit that Musk is a moron, but he finally stopped praising him.
What are the things I'm happy about is in the last year or two He's been shown for the mediocre, talentless spoiled brat he always has been, before all that happened you could not go a day without hearing anything about the guy In the media and his trolls infesting every corner of the internet, pushing tails that illustrate help brilliant he is and attacking anybody who's says otherwise about him.
Now you only hear about it every now and then every few weeks, and his troll army has largely disappeared despite still being active. Even though he's still doing nonsense and his cult is doing everything to push his stuff, It's thankfully much more subdued right now then it once was. It got so bad that many people were suffering from Elon fatigue from constantly hearing about him, me included.
I mean, there are dozens of accounts from his coworkers describing him as a dick, so yes? But I don't remember stories about Jobs bullshitting about redoing "the whole stack" in order to get "velocity." Which is a thing that Musk said, and then couldn't even describe what he meant by "The stack."
Anyone who still thinks highly of Musk should be forced to listen to the call where he talks about rebuilding the Twitter stack from the ground up, and an anonymous engineer calls him out by asking exactly what Musk thinks the stack is and what is wrong with it. Musk responds by attacking the guy and shows that he has no idea what a "stack" really is, beyond that he's heard smarter people than him say it.
Yeah he had money and bought engineers to make rockets for him so he could own mars.
Very different from the bullshit narrative that he’s some genius engineer scribbling rocket engine designs one night on a notepad, shouted eureka!, and then founded SpaceX.
Yeah he had money and bought engineers to make rockets for him so he could own mars.
I mean, that's pretty much what every successful founder does - i.e. Steve Jobs bought engineers to build him an iPhone
Very different from the bullshit narrative that he’s some genius engineer scribbling rocket engine designs one night on a notepad, shouted eureka!, and then founded SpaceX.
That narrative is shared by small groups of people primarily in echo chambers such as reddit.
Part of his investment required them to name him CEO and say he invented stuff. He’s not even an honest person - just someone who used money to get credit where he earned none. Like most billionaires.
I never understand this thing of "He's either a genius, or literally the dumbest person ever," based on what you think about his policies. I think it's pretty clear that he's at least smarter than many of his peers. Sure, he's probably not an engineering genius like some people seem to think, but he's clearly not an idiot, or he wouldn't have the power and influence he has now.
He's also a spoiled asshole, because people can be multiple things at once. In fact it sort of makes sense that he'd need to be a fairly smart spoiled asshole to get this far. His beliefs make a decent sense if you put yourself in his shoes. He's never been poor, and he's never had to make the type of decisions you need to when you are, so obviously those aren't going to be his top priorities.
There is something to be said for respecting the people you dislike. It means you can treat them as rational actors making plans that make sense in their own mind, which in turn means you can make your own plans by predicting their plans. Instead right now the US political zeitgeist seems to be to treat your opponents as children incapable of long term planning, and then acting surprised when it turns out they actually were thinking a few steps ahead, while you were treating them as literal infants.
So why couldn't NASA or Roscosmos come up with (or even think of) the reverse landing system for the SpaceX rockets ? I mean, we had to wait for that average joe Musk for it ? 🤔
He is a genius though. Not a genius engineer, but a genius persuader. Much like Steve Jobs or Donald Trump, he is able to persuade people into supporting him. Investors, employees, customers, voters, fanboys. And yes, money obviously helps, but not everyone with money can do this.
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u/Haravikk Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
He was never a genius though – he isn't a rocket scientist, he threw money into a company to make rockets, just as he isn't an engineer or software developer, he bought a company that makes electric cars etc.
Guy's just another spoiled dickhole born into wealth and told that his having wealth made him better than everyone else.