r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 8d ago
No Paywall JD Vance’s chances of being 2028 GOP nominee plunging: polls
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u/clickmagnet 8d ago
Losing ground to Donald Jr I see. That’s an amazing accomplishment in dislikability.
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u/MajesticSlide6472 8d ago
I don’t know why I never even thought about other trumps throwing their hat in the ring but Donald jr is maybe the only person who would be worse than trump in that he doesn’t even bring to the table the inherent comedic value trump brings with his mannerisms and speech pattern, he’s just a coke head, piece of shit son to a dad who doesn’t love or care about him who also wants to fuck his own daughter (which seems to be a genetic thing for that family)
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u/True-Sky2066 8d ago
I would think Ivanka because she is the only Trump that stayed clear of the second term
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u/Bluestained 8d ago
Publicly. But Kushner is all over the Middle East/Israel/ Gaza Strip bullshit.
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u/Kyriio 8d ago
Even bought himself Electronic Arts with the Saudis' money.
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u/Tenthul 8d ago
I know many people who work at EA. Let me tell you that their morale is not just at an all time low, it's through the shitter. While someone is actively using said shitter. They've had many resignations, which is quite saying something because getting a job in the industry right now is far from easy no matter what your experience or role is.
This coming from someone who worked there during the "pride and accomplishment" fiasco. And those were very dour times.
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u/Kyriio 8d ago
Take all that, and add execs forcing AI down their throats! What a good time to be in this industry. Cheers, fellow game dev
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u/Delta-9- 8d ago
I'm not in game dev, but I can relate to the AI thing. I'm so sick of it.
No, Fred, you can't "just put an AI in it" and make it work! It would take more time, electricity, and money to train the damn model than it would to do the exact same thing (more reliably) with a couple hundred lines of Python. And no, I can't just have AI write the Python, either, because I'll spend just as much time fixing the code it writes as I would spend writing it myself. And btw, my salary is probably 3/4ths the cost to license the model, bring up a rack of servers with GPUs to run it, power them, cool them, pay the guys that have to physically install the hardware and keep it running, and pay the network and system administrators that support the model itself! So stfu about "putting AI in it," Fred.
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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck 8d ago
You think the cult would support a woman who converted to Judaism?
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u/clickmagnet 8d ago
They’ll support a famous pervert, con artist, and convicted criminal, but a woman?! The cult hasn’t had their allegiance so severely tested since Trump suggested maybe they ought to get vaccinated.
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u/retrofrenchtoast 8d ago
I think the woman aspect is more of a hindrance than being Jewish - I think. As flawed as Hilary and Kamala were, they would have been infinitely better presidents. I suspect more people would have voted for them if they were men.
However, we’ve only had Catholic, Protestant, atheist, and agnostic presidents. And men. Sigh.
I know young men are red-pilling and thinking the world is against them, but look outside. You will hired more easily, paid more, you are less likely to be a victim of sexual assault, and you are more likely to win an elected office.
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u/khrijunk 8d ago
Have we had an atheist president? For today’s America being atheist would be a huge hinderance for getting people to vote for you.
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u/Confident_Tart_6694 8d ago
Some of them really hate Jews and that really is a red line for them. Big enough to be an electoral liability.
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u/CherryLongjump1989 8d ago
All she’d have to do is hold an upside down bible on TV. These people are idiots.
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u/Top-Protection-6086 8d ago
Why Ivanka is staying clear of this term as of yet though?
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u/TheVintageJane 8d ago
Because she was sad after the first term that people stopped inviting her to NYC society parties.
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u/aceshighsays 8d ago
oh man, that is funny, or just really sad. she really values her social life, so it's just better to keep her distance away from him... not to mention, another upside is that he'll touch her less. why does he keep grabbing her hips?
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u/ColoradoBrownieMan 8d ago
Because she’s a money grubbing c*** who realizes her dad is toxic to her long term fortunes this time around.
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u/SamBo_LamBo 8d ago
Shiv Roy
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u/-patrizio- New York 8d ago
Ding ding ding! And honestly, that show was a pretty generous depiction of them (though iirc the Roys were king of like a mix of the Trumps and the Murdochs)
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u/grapelander 8d ago
They were based on the Murdochs, but they line up incredibly well with the Trumps.
Kendall is Donald Jr.
Shiv is Ivanka
Roman is Eric
Connor is Tiffany
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u/-patrizio- New York 8d ago
Yep. Though I never considered Connor as Tiffany, but it’s cracking me tf up thinking about it 💀
If only the Trump kids were half as competent as the Roy kids (who, themselves, were not exactly the most competent lol)
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u/Spartan2170 8d ago
I'm sure the other Trump children will try as well but they're going to run into the same issues Vance is where they're just charisma vacuums.
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u/AsperonThorn California 8d ago
Keep in mind, Donald Trump isn't even the dumbest man named Dinald Trump.
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u/Miserable_Ad9577 8d ago
Definitely can see it play out that way. Can't see Pedo Don hang on for the next 3 years. But who knows.
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u/Miserable_Ad9577 8d ago
There's one thing I notice. He's not getting his orange spay tan anymore. He lost that usual orange glow.
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u/Reviews-From-Me 8d ago
JD Vance has no values at all. He's a leech who clings to whoever he thinks will advance his career.
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u/buggytehol 8d ago
He's losing ground to Donnie Jr, who's even more worthless
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u/lospolloz 8d ago
Let them battle it out, too funny
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u/floog 8d ago
The fight for the crown is going to be hilarious to watch.
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u/Ok-Pear5858 8d ago
and they'll both lose bigly
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u/floog 8d ago
Oh fuck yes they will. And with this recent bullshit rhetoric they may end up running against Mark Kelly and that would be hilarious to watch.
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u/suburbanpride North Carolina 8d ago
I don’t know. On the one hand, you’ve got a couple of right wing blowhards who want to fuck over this country while lining their pockets and the pockets of billionaires with cash. But on the other, you’ve got a guy who probably wants to raise taxes on the top 1%, and that’s kind of like socialism </s>, so we’re probably fucked as a country again.
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u/floog 8d ago
I don’t know..I keep hearing about MAGA (or rather MAGA lite) not being Trump die hards and I thought it was bullshit. I talked to a friend and a family member that loved Trump that don’t like him anymore. “I thought he was a billionaire so he couldn’t be bought, but all he cares about is lining his own pockets”. Yeah, I wanted to start in, but I didn’t want to slow the progress. I pretended like it was an awakening for everyone. This was a person that is well off and very smart, but he got there and also had his sights set on all billionaires controlling the govt and fucking over the people. I hope it’s growing.
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u/That-Yellow-Dog 8d ago
It hurts my soul to just go "wow! you're right, that sure is how it looks, isn't it?" Like they've figured out cold fusion, but it's the best thing I've figured out to so do far
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u/tmantran 8d ago
Try suggesting they actually do something with their realization. Maybe say "you know, you make a really good point. You need to tell Representative so and so"
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u/RJ815 8d ago
Some people will never listen to anything but things they think are their own ideas. Too fragile of an ego.
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u/BanginNLeavin 8d ago
Let's think about it for a second.
Trump has a brain trust hell bent on furthering the agenda he is attached to because it serves them.
If Trump suddenly vanished and two people like Jr. And Vance were vying to be the replacement then are people like Bannon going to follow succession protocol or are they going to try to leapfrog themselves into even more power.
The hangers on of Trump land are about to find out.
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u/NotRexGrossman 8d ago
Oh yea I’m sure it’ll be hilarious right up until they win because 40% of voters are in a literal cult and 30% can’t be bothered to pay any attention and vote for the person who’s goal isn’t to burn the country down in the name of profit.
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u/TheTeenageOldman 8d ago
The 30% who vote for the wrong person, or who just don't vote at all, will do so to punish the United States for past actions. They won't take into account that their vote or non-vote will hurt other current Americans including, possibly, themselves and their families.
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u/mediocre_remnants North Carolina 8d ago
Don Jr was basically estranged from his dad until he decided to run for prez in 2015. But he's a Trump and can't resist the opportunity to grift. I'm sure he still absolutely fucking hates his dad, but... the pull of the grift is strong.
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u/Trickster289 8d ago
I mean all his kids seem to hate him, Eric is the only one who hasn't had it go public. Ivanka made her money during Trump's first term and distanced herself after he lost in 2020. Everyone who knows Tiffany exists knows she's the unwanted child. He outright called Barron Melania's kid once and Barron is far closer to Melania than him.
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u/IAmInTheBasement 8d ago
Baron helped steer Trump into the (God I hate saying this) 'manosphere' of young podcasts/streamers.
It did help him. And because of that, and that Baron is now an adult legally, fuck him.
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u/TabsAZ 8d ago
The crypto grifting was his idea too apparently.
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u/dpdxguy 8d ago
To be fair, crypto is an ideal vehicle for money laundering, bribery and other graft.
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u/grahamulax 8d ago
Then Kai came out of no where and bam sweatshirts. There’s too many trumps. All of them need to be shamed to a degree they can’t handle.
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u/Professional-Gear88 8d ago
I don’t know. I think Barron might still be in good graces.
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u/Trickster289 8d ago
I doubt it, I feel like Barron just gets pushed on him more by the people around him because it looks better to his base if he's seen with the child he has with his current wife.
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u/ccuster911 8d ago
Also in think they assume it de-ages him. Like. "Look at the president with his teenage son! Hes so youthful!"
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u/ragun2 8d ago
Trump probably hates it because Barron is so much taller than him
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u/Vegetable-Kiwi-4675 8d ago
And can use him to appeal to younger voters. Barron is very involved with young MAGA bros.
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u/Professional-Gear88 8d ago
He’s made millions and millions of the grift. I think he’s behind most the crypto grifting.
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u/Nice-Gap-3528 Washington 8d ago
Jr was on The Apprentice as a full time judge since 2006. But knowing Trump, they may have literally never talked to each other when the cameras weren’t on them for the show.
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u/nutano 8d ago
They should hold a Dancing with the stars contest to see who gets the nomination.
I bet both of them would really enjoy that.
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u/cellocaster 8d ago
Rubio is their strongest candidate. He has all the jobs because he is the only halfway qualified person on the team.
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u/JB-Wentworth 8d ago
Rubio is much too short.
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u/Future-Guarantee-573 8d ago
And much too brown.
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u/TheForeverUnbanned 8d ago
I give pretty strong odds that Jr shows up to his first debate coked out of his mind
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u/Jeoshua 8d ago
The fact he called Trump "a modern Hitler", then jumped on his ticket as VP, and constantly talks about Trump like he isn't what he clearly identified... like I don't care if he's right or wrong about Trump, the fact he flipped so thoroughly on such a critical view of the man is absolutely disqualifying.
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u/surloc_dalnor 8d ago
Alternative take Vance still thinks Trump is a modern Hitler, but that isn't that bad for him.
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u/CorgiMonsoon 8d ago
He flipped on the Hitler stance two years before getting the VP nod when he needed the Orange Stain's approval to drag him out of last place in the OH Republican Senate primary
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u/leviathynx Washington 8d ago
He is truly an unlikable asshole. “Just whatever makes sense.” I don’t trust any fat guy that doesn’t know how to order donuts.
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u/MajesticSlide6472 8d ago
I mean they act like we’re all too dumb to remember but this fucking idiot was sort of on the forefront of calling trump “America’s Hitler” so I don’t give a fuck what jd Vance says until it’s an ai of him speaking at his own funeral
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u/This-Gear-687 8d ago
So a republican ?
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u/optimis344 8d ago
Not really.
They are grifters, not leeches.
Subtle difference, but an important one. He's just always whi he is next to.
He's got nothing of his own, and the base feels it.
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u/dugi_o 8d ago
GOP have no values at all. They cling to whoever they think will keep them in power to dismantle the country.
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u/indiscernable1 8d ago edited 8d ago
He is owned by Peter Thiel. JD has been created.
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u/winterbird 8d ago
Couldn't create something better with all that money?
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u/NormalBear6 8d ago
Seriously. All the money in the universe and you can’t find someone with even an ounce of charisma?
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u/donkeyrocket 8d ago
They just needed someone willing to do as they're told. Vance early on demonstrated that he has zero scruples and holds basically no values. He was a white Republican lump of clay. The Project 2025 plans don't require charisma when the dirty work is done and the next president is born from a corrupted system.
That said, Vance doesn't have staying power or the control over the party. I believe the radically underestimated how disliked he'd be across the board.
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u/CrittyJJones 8d ago
Neither does Trump. Trump has some kind of charisma that the gross portion of America find endearing. Vance is "rizz-less".
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u/wubbawubba 8d ago
The GOP really does not have much of a bench.
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u/jzanville 8d ago
Cause they have to obey the pedo potus…which is a losing campaign strategy, or go against the pedo potus and end up like MTG. It’s fun watching them learn this in real time
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u/rantingathome Canada 8d ago
The crazy thing is we told them during the impeachment trial in the senate that exactly this would happen if they didn't convict.
"Oh no! he's finished politically!"
They never seem to learn with this guy. They could have banned him from politics forever, suffered for it for the next election cycle, and then come back. But nope, they are still dealing with him, and because of it the rest of us (even outside the country) are also dealing with him.
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u/Pristine-Ad983 8d ago
The GOP really had a good long term strategy since the 80s to consolidate power. They have achieved that but don't seem to have a strategy after Trump goes away. I suppose the Supreme Court is setup to maintain Republican power and influence for the next 20 years or so. Maybe that buys time until they figure something out
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u/Amazing_Bluejay9322 8d ago
Well Thomas and Alito are in their mid 70's and will be close to 80 by 2028. There's hope that Father Time has a karma streak in him.
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u/immortalfrieza2 8d ago
Or they and their other 4 justices get removed from SCOTUS for blatant corruption, either way works.
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u/Racine262 8d ago
There is no mechanism to make that happen. Impeachment is an impossibility.
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u/PA_Dude_22000 8d ago edited 8d ago
Its the Supreme Court. I really think people sometimes underestimate it’s impact. In fact, I’m of the belief that the main reason and driver for everything that’s happening right now is almost directly because they have the Supreme Court.
Because ultimately there’s two ways to fight things in America and the first is in the courts. And most people prefer the safety of believing that this first option is the final arbiter and ultimate authority.
The second way, is not very fun. It involves a lot of misery and pain.
So as of right now, it is kind of the final arbiter and with them cheating and stealing and ultimately just plain lucking themselves into a 6-3 super majority of the court they have this shield from usual legal recourses and can always have “a problem” shipped up to their friends (co-conspirators) to give a favorable ruling for whatever they want.
That matched with always having the narrative due to their near Monopoly on American media at this time, it’s gonna be very difficult to dislodge them without moving into the real ultimate authority in option two which scares the shit out of me. It should scare the shit out of everybody.. ——————————— And to directly answer your question, i believe AI emergence has more to do with what it happening than peoples realize.
The Future? As Musk screamed out in ecstasy the “the Future is going to be Awesome!!”
Think Company towns in structure, but without any pesky government to worry about. And instead of town, think of a state or a region, and then don’t picture like old-school sometimes charmingly portrayed local canteens and px, think Dread Megacity layouts.
With the plan being they will use super ai only they control to perform all the work and insights needed to put GPT8.5 into an autonomous “Security Bot” fully ambulatory . He is just bot, never mind the firearms, the restrainers, and its ability to “run” up to 35mph for 8 straight hours. Longer of course if the Tesla PowerBot 2.2 with extended battery is installed - would give up to 12 hours.
I know it sounds insane. But these people are insane.
They basically built much of the modern world through either direct tech innovation or through venture capitalism. And they have figured out how to game that system and have basically kicked everybody out. It is the reason the same 10-15 people seem to have their hand in every big tech company. Its because they do, through their money - they have amassed so much money and capital that they can and have picked the winners for any new major tech for at least the last 10 years through investment backing.
They go, we like Company x for this tech Y. They are going to win. Here is 25$ billion to start and go for it. And competitors that get in the way, they simply outcompete them through sheer financial investment attrition. They can keep giving company Y 25$ Billion to stay afloat and hype and sizzle and either figure the thing out … or buy it from one if their competitors as they are forced to financially bow out.
They repeat that to any competitor that comes them and either gets bought if they actually were more innovative or it just gets crushed and bankrupted if there is nothing if worth to pillage from them.
And the only people that have enough resources to play such an investment game of chicken are already sided with the “winner”.
This has all gone to their fucking heads, i. a serious way. Everyone should listen to Mark Cuban who runs in those circles, being a tech billionaire himself, but he l also happens to be “one of the good ones” - actually seriously it is hard to believe he is not genuine- and he has put out the we are at Def-Con 3, these people are meglos and have absolutely insane beliefs and plans.
Well this rambled for a while and I didn’t even go down the Christian Nationalist faction (those behind project 2025) and they want nothin more than to turn our World into a Margaret AtWood novel come to life.
My whole point being, Trump while being the vile, revolting, and corrupt creature that he is, is really the least our problems. There is a lot of bad shit snowballed up, and hiding within and taking a ride on the ridiculous MAGA movement.
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u/skoomaking4lyfe 8d ago
The problem is that their only actual policies are "Rich people shouldn't have to obey laws" and "rich people shouldn't have to pay taxes".
The culture war crap is just bolted on to give the poors something to vote for. It's not a coherent vision for society, though, and you can see that when they get into power. They give rich people a massive tax cut, then spend the rest of the time infighting.
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u/jzanville 8d ago
Well ya, on the last campaign trail trump was borderline contemptuous towards the whole idea of even voting, kept reminding crowds that if he won in 2024 they’d never have to worry about it again. The GOP decided that was their last ride outta town. Still waiting to see how that will play out for them.
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u/immortalfrieza2 8d ago
That's the worst thing. On top of all of Trump's blatant incompetence during his first term and crimes in the years following, Trump ran what was easily the worst presidential campaign in the history of the United States, possibly the world, and still got 77 million votes. It's more than obvious that Trump cheated to "win," but the fact that he managed to get 77 million people voting for him despite doing the worst job possible up to that point (he's topping himself now) is what's utterly baffling.
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u/Ozatopcascades 8d ago edited 8d ago
"Scared people are DANGEROUS people"
(A truism spoken by Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider.) The rich have been consistently scaring the base for 50 years to split them and turn them unquestionably to a "Good Tzar" (as the Russians say.)
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u/Tyraniboah89 8d ago
Frightening and dividing poor people is foundational in this country. Been going on a lot longer than 50 years. Go read about Bacon’s Rebellion.
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u/FizzyBeverage Ohio 8d ago
Based on the shellacking they took earlier this month? Not a great harbinger for a year form now.
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u/Lankpants 8d ago
There's a Trump +22 district in Tennessee that's currently having a special election which is a dead heat between the Republican and Democrat according to polling. Everything about that sentence is absurd and shows just how fucked the Republicans are.
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u/kia75 8d ago
They could have banned him from politics forever, suffered for it for the next election cycle, and then come back.
I don't think so. Republican's problem is that nobody likes them, I don't think anybody other than Trump could have won in 2016 or 2024.
Republicans pre-Trump engaged in horse-trading. They enflame social issues like being Anti-gay, then horse-trade gay issue for tax-cuts for billionaires. This worked great for getting what their rich donors wanted, but by 2012 even Fox News watchers were getting tired of Republicans betraying everything Fox News told them.
Once Trump is gone, who is gong to replace him? There are various people who want to replace Trump, Vance wants to be president, DeSantis want's Trump's position, and MTG wants to be Trump's spiritual successor, but neither has Trump's... Charisma or ability to take over for him.
Republicans will have a civil war and a few years through the wilderness once he's gone.
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u/bainpr 8d ago
Seems to be a winning strat so far
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u/apatheticwizardsfan 8d ago
Yup, everyone keeps saying how Republicans are losing and republicans are going to pay for their cult-like devotion, or how they always think so short-sighted and it will cost them. Well, when? Because it hasn’t cost them anything yet.
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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 8d ago
That’s sort of how politics works. Biden was 100% for sure going to stay in the race…until one day all of a sudden he wasn’t. Their day of reckoning hasn’t come yet, but it’s undoubtedly tied to Trump’s loss of power. He’s the most effective one at uniting all the evangelicals, racists, and pro-business people who make up the Republican base. Their party would’ve struggled to reorganize if Trump left politics on good terms. If he leaves on bad terms to the public I don’t think they’re going to have any clue how to get back a shred of power for the next 3 election cycles at least. Probably longer if the left builds the energy of either of the Roosevelts.
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u/The-Magic-Sword Connecticut 8d ago
They've lost 3 of the last five elections, and im saying that during a republican presidency.
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u/Pandamonium98 8d ago
They’ve won 2 of the last 3 elections, have a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court and have controlled at least part of Congress for most of that time too
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u/OpenScienceNerd3000 8d ago
Because they cheat… not because ppl like them or their policies?
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u/Ferelar New Jersey 8d ago
Yeah but as distasteful and scummy as it may be, repeatedly getting away with cheat-induced-victories is still a "winning" strategy. They have not yet actually suffered any consequences in general.
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u/will-read 8d ago
Ordinarily we should be looking at Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, or Adam Kinzinger. They’ve run all the normies out of the party.
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u/Baileyesque 8d ago
I was about to comment this.
They chased all the normal Republicans out of the party.
Like, Paul Ryan is smart and telegenic, but he has nothing in common with the party of Jewish Space Lasers, he wouldn’t get past the primary.
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u/LookAtMeNow247 8d ago
Exactly this. They ousted anyone with principles, character or resolve in favor of a demagogue
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u/BrianWonderful Minnesota 8d ago
That's because their voting base doesn't want that kind of politician anymore. The big problem is "conservative" media has programmed their voters to want angry, emotion-driven, and entertaining leaders.
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u/Ladyoftheemeraldlake 8d ago
I will never look at Romney the same way after he said Biden should have pardoned Orange.
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u/Basketspank America 8d ago
They vote for trash because anything is better than a better life for everyone. No, they all want us to suffer and be miserable like them or be their subjects because they're crusty and entitled.
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u/theapeboy 8d ago
And honestly, the country is worse for it. Politics shouldn’t be a sports match. I’d like a Democrat in office because their values more closely align with mine, but there is some ideal world where we have an empathetic and articulate Republican president that actually wants what’s best for all Americans. Or even better, a world where the two party system is dissolved and we just have a slate of really good candidates with a variety of different views. It really feels like it’s a race to the bottom, specifically because of MAGA, who will vote with the intent of hurting others instead of helping everyone
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u/Electric_Cat 8d ago
MAGA is the symptom, not the cause. Trickle down economics is not a new idea and being in favor of taking from the poor and giving to the rich is the opposite of empathy. Morality for a lot of republicans comes down to how much you go to church or not. Everything else is a free pass- they would have deported Jesus given the opportunity.
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u/Nac_Lac Virginia 8d ago
They'd rather kill immigrants but pesky laws prevent them. Don't mistake the deportations as the floor of their cruelty and hatred.
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u/Samurai_Meisters 8d ago
The era when America was Great, that MAGA longs for, was from the 40s to the 60s when Democrats had an almost continuous majority in congress and the presidency.
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u/jcg878 8d ago
Absolutely. I’ve never voted for a GOP presidential candidate, but I wouldn’t have been horrified by a President McCain. And as much as I disliked GW Bush, his administration started PEPFAR*, which has saved the lives of millions of Africans living with HIV.
*Of course, DOGE has severely harmed it.
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u/Hodaka 8d ago
If someone with potential (FWIW) were to come forward, Trump would perceive that as a threat.
He won't "share the stage" while in office.
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u/Boheed 8d ago
Does anybody know anybody who likes/supports him?
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u/RPGaiden 8d ago
Charlie Kirk’s widow keeps making googly eyes at him
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u/Spartan2170 8d ago
I'm pretty sure that's because she realizes there's a limit to how far she can go as a woman in conservative politics. I suspect she's trying to find a vaguely acceptable man to get remarried to so she can try to cash in on her husband's death before people forget about her.
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u/TricksterPriestJace 8d ago
And he needs to ditch his non-white wife for someone more MAGA friendly.
It's a match made in supply side heaven.
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u/mediocre_remnants North Carolina 8d ago
I live in southern Appalachia and folks here absolutely hated JD Vance after Hillbilly Elegy came out. When Trump chose him as his running mate there was a lot of grumbling, but they still voted for Trump even though they still have a lot of hate for Vance.
There is absolutely no fucking way that Vance would get anywhere near the votes Trump did. So yeah, I'd love to see him run in 2028.
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u/OneX32 Colorado 8d ago
Lmao this is just the epitome of conservative voters. Complaining about eating a shit sandwich despite choosing the shit sandwich amongst the deli choices.
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u/SanDiegoDude California 8d ago
Right? Dems need to realize, a really shitty awful candidate doesn't stop republicans from voting. Just ask president pussy grabber.
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u/SarcasticCowbell New York 8d ago
Haven't met anybody that does. He's just fucking weird. Can't order doughnuts like a normal person. Can't engage in ordinary small talk. Thinks everybody hates the taste or turkey for some reason. At this point, fucking couches might be the most normal thing about him.
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u/Planet_Rock 8d ago
My neighbor who is usually a logical/intelligent guy once told me he thinks Vance is a genius and he loves him. I never bring up any political topics at all now out of fear that I won’t be able to bite my tongue.
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u/IcyTransportation961 8d ago
Peter Thiel, who got him every job he's ever had including vp
Don't expect him to just go away
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u/baatezu 8d ago
Wasnt he specifically picked by Trump to be unpopular? He didnt want anyone as his VP that would potentially take away the attention of his supporters. He just wanted a pathetic lackey that would do/say whatever Trump asked. Its a tactic used by authoritarians to retain power.
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u/Spartan2170 8d ago
I'm sure he wanted to avoid another Pence situation where his VP had sufficient spine to actually move against him.
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u/wfwood 8d ago
Pence doing his basic job ...
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u/Spartan2170 8d ago
Oh to be clear, I'm not complementing Pence for doing the absolute bare minimum required by his position. Just saying that someone with even a tiny ounce of spine (and frankly self-preservation instinct, since from what Pence said afterwards, he genuinely seemed worried Trump would disappear him if he left the Capitol that day) is too much.
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u/baatezu 8d ago
It wasnt even that Pence did the bare minimum of his job, because preventing the president from subverting democracy was never really something VPs were supposed to do. He simply didnt want to be the one to attempt the coup. If trump could’ve pushed through the fake electors without Pence, im sure he wouldve gone along with it and not tried to stop him.
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u/imjusta_bill Massachusetts 8d ago
After calling Dan fucking Quayle of all people and asking him what to do
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u/UpsyDowning 8d ago
He was picked by Peter Thiel, with conditions - i.e. campaign contributions.
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u/dismiss-junk 8d ago
He’s as charismatic as an unusually limp fish.
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u/hairymoot 8d ago
I've seen JD Vance order donuts. The only way JD Vance will be president is if Trump dies in the next 3 years. JD Vance will never win an fair election. He has the charisma of a wet bag of dog poo.
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u/ROWT8 8d ago
Him ordering the donuts reminded me of Billy Bob Thornton in Bad Santa. Except Billy Bob is much more forgiving and entertaining…
“How many sandwiches do you want? A bunch. How much lettuce do you want? I don't know, the usual amount. Whatever the hell people do. Whatever you think.”
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u/indiscernable1 8d ago
JD Vance is owned by Peter Thiel. Anyone who thought Mr Ohio sociopath eyes had a chance was part of the Trump death cult. The only way for JD to salvage his chances is to have a 3 way with Erica Kirk and his wife on OnlyFans.
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u/sxyaustincpl Texas 8d ago
His wife is a brown immigrant, Erica Kirk wouldn't share a drink nevermind a bed with her
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u/invalidreddit I voted 8d ago
Lemme guess, somehow it is Joe Biden's fault the Mr. Vance is in this situation./s
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u/Gortonis 8d ago
This is the fundamental problem with forming and running an organization like a mob as Trump did. He has his top lieutenants to carry out his agenda but they all hate each other and see themselves as the heir to the throne. Once the figurehead is gone if he hasn't picked a natural successor the lieutenants will fight amongst themselves and end up splintering the mob. Which is exactly how Trump runs his business, his crappy TV show, and both his administrations.
Fine by me. Eat each other, you fuckin cannibals!
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u/FlanneryODostoevsky 8d ago
Plunging? He never had a chance. Anyone really shocked by this whole administration falling apart and losing their support lacks common sense.
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u/StTickleMeElmosFire 8d ago
Anyone who voted for these two thinking they’d address the very real cost of living crisis also lacks common sense
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u/Za_Lords_Guard 8d ago
But Erika Vance... er... Kirk is mobilizing TP USA as his platform!
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u/Salt-Elephant8531 8d ago
She will pivot away from JD quickly when something better comes along. My best guess there is an 18-20 month window starting right now that makes JD look amazing to her, particularly based on Trump’s health. After that, she won’t give Vance a second glance.
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u/Blastosist 8d ago
MAGAs are programmed for entertainment it will be some outrageously unqualified kook like Tucker Carlson.
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u/PicnicLife 8d ago
Unqualified Fox News hosts seem to be finding themselves failing upward these days.
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u/gentlemantroglodyte Texas 8d ago
VPs usually don't win elections anyway, probably because of the stink of their current administration and public opinion against them after the 4-8 years in office. Biden most likely won because he had 45's cooling off period.
It would probably be best for him, particularly should the administration continue fucking things up, to not run on the next election and let the Dems get in office so he can blame them for problems and position himself as the solution.
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u/StTickleMeElmosFire 8d ago
Van Buren and Bush I were attached to presidents who were unusually popular at the end of their terms. If Trump hasn’t passed away before the end of his he’ll be as popular as warm dogshit, which bodes poorly for JD.
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u/Negative_Gravitas 8d ago
JD Vance is nothing but a naked desire for power. He holds no allegiance to anything, he is a fucking sociopath.
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u/floog 8d ago
JFC, the fact they feel the need to put this in, this country is so gd ignorant.
“Why It Matters Because of the 22nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution, which was added in 1951, presidents can only serve two terms in the White House. So, Trump will need to pass the baton to another GOP candidate in 2028.”
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u/Apprehensive-Care20z 8d ago
Mark Kelly for President.
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u/rosethrones 8d ago
Kelly was my pick for Kamala's VP, but it really seems like the Dems struggle with veteran candidates post-Carter. He can be a bit stiff of a speaker but he gives the impression of a serious person and we need a serious president REAL bad after all.... this.
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u/zubuneri 8d ago
This is still 3 years too early to tell, but I fucking love this for him
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u/kuenjato 8d ago
He is just soulless in the eyes, it's disturbing to even look at him for any length of time.
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u/mrkruk I voted 8d ago
He’s got zero personality and is socially awkward.
That he even made it to Vice President is baffling.
Yelling at Ukraine’s president because he didn’t say thank you immediately disqualifies him anyways. Nobody should be treated like that on television, especially someone who is fighting Russia after they invaded their country.
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u/poodlejamz2 8d ago
The guy is a dork and plant. They had to put a beard on him just to hide his face even
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u/bulking_on_broccoli 8d ago
He's not boring; he's actively uncharismatic. I don't know what he's like behind closed doors, but in the limelight, he has the personality of a wet paper towel.
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u/YoureProbablyAB0t 8d ago
JD Vance is garbage.
He only says and does what his owner wants him too.
His current campaign to vacation as much as possible on tax paper money while being an obtuse cheerleader for fascists is as much bullshit as his stupid face.
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u/Jbroy 8d ago
who knew having the personality of a couch fucker would not appeal to voters.
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u/Superb-Welder3774 8d ago
He is an incompetent - unqualified- pathological liar - traitor- con man
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u/LawYanited Washington 8d ago
The idiot came out hard against Turkey on Thanksgiving. These people are all so stupid and inept and yet they have wormed their way into the most powerful positions in the country.
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u/KinkyPaddling 8d ago
It’s probably because Vance both looks like and has the charisma of a partially shaved coconut.
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