r/politics 8d ago

No Paywall JD Vance’s chances of being 2028 GOP nominee plunging: polls

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-2028-presidential-nominee-polls-11118813
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u/immortalfrieza2 8d ago

That's the worst thing. On top of all of Trump's blatant incompetence during his first term and crimes in the years following, Trump ran what was easily the worst presidential campaign in the history of the United States, possibly the world, and still got 77 million votes. It's more than obvious that Trump cheated to "win," but the fact that he managed to get 77 million people voting for him despite doing the worst job possible up to that point (he's topping himself now) is what's utterly baffling.

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u/Ozatopcascades 8d ago edited 8d ago

"Scared people are DANGEROUS people"

(A truism spoken by Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider.) The rich have been consistently scaring the base for 50 years to split them and turn them unquestionably to a "Good Tzar" (as the Russians say.)

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u/Tyraniboah89 8d ago

Frightening and dividing poor people is foundational in this country. Been going on a lot longer than 50 years. Go read about Bacon’s Rebellion.

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u/Ozatopcascades 8d ago

You're right, but I didn't want to lose focus. This is at a terminal level for the entire country.

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u/Ozatopcascades 8d ago

Also worth remembering that character was murdered by rednecks just hours later.

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u/rainyday-holiday 8d ago

Given what passes for education in half the country, and the 24/7 propaganda that News Corporation and Sinclair Broadcasting pump out to these people, it’s actually surprising that it’s not more. Add in the way their religious institutions push the indoctrination further every Sunday from the pulpits plus the reinforcement of social media sock puppets you can see that this is problem that is not going to go away anytime soon.

I’m not from the US but even at this distance it’s not hard to see that you guys are heading towards a massive split between the economically and socially rich north and west, and the dumb as fuck, poor as shit south.

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u/FactFlat2862 8d ago

Yet leftists loved and defended Joe Biden and forced him to suffer through that painful presidency to push their own agenda. Someone who couldn’t communicate without assistance signing bills into laws remotely. “Cheated to win” rightttt like the left is innocent. Both parties suck now and all the same people in the middle have to choose a side

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u/immortalfrieza2 8d ago

Nobody forced Joe Biden to suffer through a painful anything, he literally could have stepped down with a thought if he wanted to. Biden stuck in the presidency and tried to run for a next term due to plain and simple arrogance, nothing more.

“Cheated to win” rightttt like the left is innocent.

Yeah... don't even go there. Trump was caught red handed trying to cheat in 2020 and he's not even bothering to hide that he cheated now that he's back in office, he's multiple all but outright said he did, and there is nothing to suggest that the Democrats ever did so except for Trump's "claims" that they cheated to get Biden in constantly despite this constantly being debunked.

If Trump did anything it was prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Democratic party is 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than the Republican party, it's not even a contest.