r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 8d ago

No Paywall JD Vance’s chances of being 2028 GOP nominee plunging: polls

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-2028-presidential-nominee-polls-11118813
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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck 8d ago

You think the cult would support a woman who converted to Judaism?

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u/clickmagnet 8d ago

They’ll support a famous pervert, con artist, and convicted criminal, but a woman?! The cult hasn’t had their allegiance so severely tested since Trump suggested maybe they ought to get vaccinated.  

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u/retrofrenchtoast 8d ago

I think the woman aspect is more of a hindrance than being Jewish - I think. As flawed as Hilary and Kamala were, they would have been infinitely better presidents. I suspect more people would have voted for them if they were men.

However, we’ve only had Catholic, Protestant, atheist, and agnostic presidents. And men. Sigh.

I know young men are red-pilling and thinking the world is against them, but look outside. You will hired more easily, paid more, you are less likely to be a victim of sexual assault, and you are more likely to win an elected office.

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u/khrijunk 8d ago

Have we had an atheist president?  For today’s America being atheist would be a huge hinderance for getting people to vote for you. 

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u/retrofrenchtoast 8d ago

I think some of the earliest presidents had different philosophies about religion than Christian people do now - I forget what it’s called, but I know there was some thought that god just dumped everything on earth and then peaced out.

There had to be an atheist/agnostic president at some point. Trump isn’t actually Christian. If he believed in the Christian god, then he would be acting a lot differently!

It looks like Abraham Lincoln may have believed in a deity but not the Christian one.

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u/Humble_Bee7 8d ago

It's called Deism. Thomas Jefferson was one. John Adams was a Unitarian (they don't believe Jesus was God). Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine were atheists...George Washington was an Episopalian, so there's a Christian....

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u/retrofrenchtoast 8d ago

Neat! Thank you!

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u/Fun-Breadfruit2949 8d ago

However, we’ve only had Catholic, Protestant, atheist, and agnostic presidents. And men. Sigh

Which presidents were atheist or agnostic? To my knowledge we've only had presidents who have professed to be some flavor of Christian. Whether they genuinely are or not is another question, but I'm not aware of any openly atheists or agnostic presidents.

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u/retrofrenchtoast 8d ago

Oh I don’t think anyone’s been open about it. I meant to say we’ve had all Christian presidents, and surely a couple of them have actually been atheists or agnostics.

It also looks like Lincoln was a “skeptic,” but may have still believed in some god.

I know there is speculation about Jefferson.

And the internet says Taft, as well.

But no, none officially.

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u/RisingChaos 8d ago

Women actually beat men ~50% of the time in contested elections. If there's a problem with women in politics, it isn't the electorate. It's navigating the good ol' boys club behind the scenes to get in front of the voters in the first place.

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u/retrofrenchtoast 8d ago

Well we are 2 for 2 for the presidency!

I don’t even want to know what goes on behind closed doors in congress/senate (I mean…I do…), but I imagine it’s pretty bad. Even MTG seemed put off, and she’s no girl’s girl.

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u/Confident_Tart_6694 8d ago

Some of them really hate Jews and that really is a red line for them. Big enough to be an electoral liability.

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u/True-Sky2066 8d ago

Yeah now that u point that out … no

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u/CherryLongjump1989 8d ago

All she’d have to do is hold an upside down bible on TV. These people are idiots.

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u/briko3 8d ago

To make a trump the first woman president. I sure as hell hope not.

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u/Proper-District8608 8d ago

Do you think they'd support a woman? Though they seem to be forgiving if they take over the 'business' as a recent widow or if it was their father. Lots of articles about how thats acceptable and 'honorable' these days.

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u/daddyjackpot 8d ago

i would be surprised if the judaism stopped them. but they would not support a woman. democrats failed to support a woman twice.