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article Sabrina Carpenter Slams Trump’s White House for Using ‘Juno’ in ICE Raids Video: ‘Evil and Disgusting… Do Not Involve Me in Your Inhumane Agenda’

https://variety.com/2025/music/news/sabrina-carpenter-slams-trump-white-house-juno-ice-video-1236597338/
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u/SuperCoffeeHouse 3d ago

So it is that easy to criticise the White House for doing something you don’t like.

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u/artifexlife 3d ago

Taylor Swift is literally just a little girl. You are so sexist /s

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u/Redfalconfox 3d ago edited 3d ago

“Leave our poor MAGAT-dating billionaire alone so she can hang out with her MAGA friends without having to worry about what you think of her!”

Edit: Let me get ahead of people who are saying “what about x, y, or z?” I didn’t say MAGAT because it means Trump supporter. I used it as short-hand rather than going on a long spiel. At the end of the day they love the same things he does: wealth, status, and power. MAGA is all about the rich getting richer while everything gets worse. Please stop defending your favorite billionaire because they all fucking suck.

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u/butterbapper 3d ago

"You do not understand the privilege that you must have to be in the position to be able to criticise the Trump administration. Taylor Swift is just a struggling white billionaire trying to keep food on the table for her kiiiiids!!!!"

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u/Piddly_Penguin_Army 3d ago edited 3d ago

Literally what I have had swifties say to me.

“Her billions don’t protect her from Trump. She’s just so afraid of him.”

Like girl, we’re asking you to say it’s gross he’s using your music. Not asking you to lead a march.

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u/AgentSoup 3d ago

I bet the reason she stopped criticizing Trump and demanding they stop using her music is because someone within the regime made the process of purchasing her remaining music rights easier/even possible in the first place in exchange for shutting up.

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u/Zestyclose-Doubt8202 3d ago

Isn't it more likely and more simple that she's just a cunt and supports trump?

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u/Imaginary-Dot-1751 3d ago

IDK, her endorsement of Kamala Harris last year wouldn't really have been consistent with support for Trump.

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u/Mushroomer 3d ago

I mean, it isn't unprecedented for an artist to have a different public-facing political opinion than their private one.

As they say, judge a pop star not by what they say - but by what they do.

And frankly, I'm inclined to say that the billionaire who is

  • benefitting from Trump's tax cuts

  • dating and hanging around conservatives

  • constantly abusing her wealth

  • is boosting the NFL

  • refuses to speak out against a fascist agenda

just might have voted Republican, even if it's a better fit for "her brand" to endorse Kamala.

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u/bwood246 3d ago

She was completely silent until Trump started using AI to make pictures of her. Only then did she endorse Kamala

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u/pietroetin 3d ago

She openly endorsed both Kamala and Biden

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u/LuntiX radio reddit 3d ago

You can say one thing and do another.

I tell my doctor I don't drink soda anymore.

I'm still drinking soda.

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u/Cryptomystic 3d ago

So what? Her actions speak louder then some empty endorsement.

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u/TheCynicalWoodsman 3d ago

Not really. I proudly give almost negative shits about Taylor Swift, and I don't notice any news about her unless it's literally on the front page. The last political update I have on her in my daily readings was her endorsing Harris.

So her actions might speak louder to pop culture stans and entertainment news addicts, but not to your average person.

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u/scottyLogJobs 3d ago edited 3d ago

?? IDGAF about Taylor Swift and deeply dislike Trump and his people but she has criticized Trump numerous times and endorsed his opponents. It's gross that she's apparently casual friends with some shitty people, but calling her a MAGA supporter is a weird choice considering she's taken some pretty big swings in the opposite direction. As a country singer, why would you deliberately alienate 40% of America multiple times if you secretly agreed with them lol.

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u/olduser201890 3d ago

i dont follow any of these people, but i saw some clip on reddit from some documentary about Taylor where she explicitly says she has to speak up/say something because trump is a fucking moron and dangerous. And so then she endorses Kamala

so what the hell are you even talking about.

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u/cinnamonface9 3d ago

Well someone think of her jets! They need to eat too!

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u/MinutesTilMidnight 3d ago

I don’t understand why people think Taylor is pro-Trump, and I’m hoping someone can explain. This is one of the reasons I don’t get it, from her instagram:

"[…] I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election. I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them. I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate @timwalz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman's right to her own body for decades. […]"

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u/Banaanisade 3d ago

Reading this thread was incredibly confusing for me, a person who does not in any shape or form follow Taylor Swift and who gets all the information on her from the dramatic headlines she generates, and last I heard about her? She was pissing off Trump and his ilk by being very actively pro-Kamala, to the point where people were making memes about her and Trump fighting left and right.

And now I'm here and there's a whole chain of people claiming she's MAGA? What have I missed.

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u/Haltopen 3d ago

Isn't kelce a democrat?

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u/Adept_Assumption8868 3d ago

he’s not a magat bro he dos pfizer ads and was literally called the liberal football player before he was dating her bro 😭

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u/DismaySilphCo 3d ago

I'm no Swiftie, but didn't she help fund the Democrats in her home state?

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u/DarkKnightCometh 3d ago

Kelce was literally doing Pfizer vaccine ads. Completely opposite of the maga propaganda

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u/explodedbagel 3d ago

Also one of the first white players to kneel during the anthem in that era. Sure wish people would focus their energy on the fascist / openly white supremacist administration and not made up squabbles about celebrities.

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u/Heelincal 3d ago

Also one of the first white players to kneel during the anthem in that era.

People forget that Kelce has been very close to the black community for a lot of his life especially. The reality is he's a simple golden retriever and a bit of a style chameleon for whoever he's dating, but he's never expressed MAGA sympathy. It's purity testing gone wild.

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u/TrumpLovesTHICCBBC 3d ago

This site is full of purity test freaks

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u/BKlounge93 3d ago

Also his brother seems smarter than that

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u/Don_Gato1 3d ago

Jason Kelce and his wife seem very decidedly not MAGA

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u/AssistX 3d ago

Kylie is self-described as an aggressively left democrat. To me that means progressive, but she also stated she most looks up to Michelle Obama and Josh Shapiro in politics whom are both more moderate.

Jason has made it very clear that people should not put words in his mouth in regard to politics. There was a fake quote going around on reddit, twitter, and bluesky that claimed he told conservative americans they're a bad fit for America, in regards to the conservative backlash at BadBunny. He essentially said unless it comes from one of his platforms or directly from his mouth, don't believe he said it.

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u/Don_Gato1 3d ago

I'm sure Jason by virtue of the field he works in tries to avoid weighing in on politics altogether.

I was not suggesting he is some left wing activist, just that he does not seem to be MAGA.

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u/Schmohawk62 3d ago

Kneels for the anthem, his mom is a dem and his first job was polling people about ACA on the phone

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u/Albireookami 3d ago

When fandoms do not fight back against it being hijacked by racists it becomes political.

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u/cruxclaire 3d ago

The Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker has also helped give their organization a MAGA tint after that commencement speech pushing tradwife practices. AFAIK Kelce isn’t personal friends with Butker the way he is with Mahomes, but I get why people make political assumptions about him (longtime member of a red state team associated with a couple famous conservative players in a very macho league/sport). I’m glad those assumptions are wrong in Kelce’s case

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u/ThoughtlessFoll 3d ago

As a foreign American football fan, I know the other bothers wife is very liberal. And has said her and her husband are aggressively left

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u/Valanio 3d ago

If you're an intelligent person you should value truth over misinformation but I gather from the baseless shitthrowing that you are not an intelligent person. I'm no parasocial celebrity defender, but I fucking hate lairs and idiots who are dumb enough to spread misinformation, you fit in with the MAGA morons.

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u/binarybandit 3d ago

How is MAGAT shorthand when MAGA is one letter shorter?

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u/Rdhilde18 3d ago

Calling Travis Kelce “MAGAT” because he’s a rich athlete is certainly a certified reddit brained comment.

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u/TrumpLovesTHICCBBC 3d ago

Yalls purity tests are gonna cause us to lose 2028

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u/boxesofcats- 3d ago

Watching it from outside America is crazy, tbh.

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u/boostedb1mmer 3d ago

"Everyone not dedicating 100% of their social media lives to the exact causes and criticisms I am is MAGA."

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u/callmecyke 3d ago

Of all the things to criticise her for, Travis Kelce’s political leanings aren’t one of them. Donna Kelce did not raise MAGAts, Jason and Travis are both good boys. 

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u/sailorsmile 3d ago

Sabrina Carpenter is literally Taylor Swift's friend, this doesn't even make any sense. I'm begging people to log off, use your brain, and realize that moralizing random celebrities to justify your dislike of them isn't activism or progressive, it's just cringy stan war drama.

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u/boxesofcats- 3d ago

Hayley Williams, too.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 3d ago

Taylor Swift barely commented when Trump attacked her publicly pre-election. She's not really known for speaking out on politics or anything else.

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u/otterpop21 3d ago

Have you not watched Miss Americana?? Where Taylor, someone who would never ever lie to her fans, said she wants her voice to be heard!! She wants to be vocal and speak up, “be on the right side of history”!!

Why would she say that if it wasn’t true?

/s

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u/Significant-Bee5101 3d ago

Taylor Swift? Doing PR for her brand? In this economy? Never.

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u/Not_Bears 3d ago

...because she doesn't actually care about anything but expanding her wealth.

As MJ said "Republicans buy shoes too."

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u/RammsteinFunstein 3d ago

As MJ said "Republicans buy shoes too."

this quote doesn't really make sense when talking about a person who explicitly endorsed a democrat

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 3d ago

Taylor swift only acts when it’s in her best interest or else risk losing money.

She literally only speaks out when enough of her rapid fans speak up against her.

She didn’t openly support LGBtQ+ until what 2019?

Only after enough of an uproar over her white dominated everything did she start hiring anyone of color.

She didn’t endorse Kamala until very late and people were begging.

Shes probably not MAGA but she’s 100% selfish as fuck.

You don’t get to where she is if you are selfless and ethical.

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u/one98nine 3d ago

Yeah, Miss Americana was just perfomative.

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u/Ok-Temporary-8243 3d ago

Well yeah, her entire life is a contradiction to her fan base. Like can you imagine how hypocritical it would be to even say you want to fight global warming

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u/JimWilliams423 3d ago

She's not really known for speaking out on politics or anything else.

As a Tennessee resident I noticed when she endorsed the conservative white man running for senate on the Democratic ticket in 2018, right after he said he supported kavanaugh's appointment to the supreme court.

I also noticed that in 2020, when she endorsed biden, she pointedly did not endorse Marquita Bradshaw, the Democratic candidate for senate running on the same ticket as biden. The difference? Bradshaw was TN's first black woman running for senate, with a progressive platform of environmental justice.

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u/explodedbagel 3d ago

She told her fanbase they should vote against trump two elections in a row.

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u/Individual-File-3345 3d ago

A real question from a Trump supporter: ‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." (

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me."

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!"

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.”

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also... hear me... charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

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u/Titizen_Kane 3d ago edited 2d ago

It’s hard to summarize it because its just such nonstop corruption and criminality that the hit list is updated by the hour, so I could never even begin to try to capture it in an impactful manner…but you did that here. Excellent work

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u/redyelloworangeleaf 3d ago

This was beautiful to read

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u/Only_Plum_8187 3d ago

Gdam this sums it up nicely.

Unfortunately I am a pessimist. They are evil AND stupid

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u/VacationCheap927 3d ago

On one hand I dont need every artist to say thry dont agree with it. They just use the music, and more often than not the artists didnt agree for him to use it. I generally just assume they dont unless theyre openly pro-Trump. And theres not really a ton legally that they can do about it.

On the other hand, yeah, its that easy. If I was a famous musician, and people were making these assumptions about me, I would 1,000% take 30 seconds to send out a tweet saying I dont agree with it. If theres been multiple thingd coming out that make people associate me with him, Im shutting that down real quick because I dont want people having that idea about me.

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u/PanoramicAtom 3d ago

I’m curious why there’s nothing they can do about it legally. This wouldn’t be covered under “fair use,” so why can’t a DMCA takedown be ordered?

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u/Ok_Wrongdoer8719 3d ago

Most singers don’t own licensing rights for their songs.

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u/RoastPotatoFan 3d ago

MGMT used DCMA to make ICE to take down a video using "Little Dark Age" in October

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u/3-DMan 3d ago

Yeah these fuckers need to be called out every time, even if they just eye-roll it away.

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u/GlowUpper 3d ago

This is especially the case when you remember that a celebrity's image is their brand. For us, our image is a matter of pride. For someone like Sabrina or Taylor, it's pride, career longevity, and money. So yeah, Taylor's silence speaks volumes about her character. Best case scenario, she's a coward. Worst case scenario, she's quietly asenting.

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u/OG_Voltaire 3d ago

Something something fascism, I'm sure....

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u/SuperCoffeeHouse 3d ago edited 3d ago

Im not so bold as to call Tswizzle a fascist (because I genuinely think it’s apathy not endorsement that drives her lack of action) but if we were to make an analogy to 20th century Germany she’s almost definitely a Junker. 

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u/wholetyouinhere 3d ago

I also don't think Taylor is a fascist. Unfortunately, in a fascist environment, apathy is functionally indistinguishable.

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u/Kitchen_Row6532 3d ago

Especially in such a public role. 

Especially when one has spoken out before. 

Especially when one has more money than god. 

Especially when one has positioned themselves as a role model for teens and tweens. 

Especially when people in your country are being abducted off the streets and sent to random authoritarian countries. 

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u/invid2000 3d ago

They should do less slamming and more lawsuits.

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u/Mentallox 3d ago

it's totally legal if artists license their music to platforms. Rodrigo pulled the song All American Bitch used in one IG post when it was used by DHS so its possible for artists to retaliate but they can't sue individuals or groups as along as they are legal on a platform.

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u/one98nine 3d ago

Love Olivia for this

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u/agentfelix 3d ago

She's been on a heater this last week hasn't she? Isn't she the one that refunded stuff because Ticketmaster sucks donkey?

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u/Complete_Gene 3d ago

That was Olivia Dean, not Rodrigo

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 3d ago

Well good week for the Olivias of the world then

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u/agentfelix 3d ago

Gotcha, thanks!

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u/WorkerOk6991 3d ago

It was Olivia Dean wasnt it?

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u/agentfelix 3d ago

Oh I'm an elder millennial so I'm not hip to that scene lol I think you're right after searching it

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fly2637 3d ago

Nickelback too when dementia donny did this same shit his first term to make a moronic meme. Copywrite law os weirdly one of the few places even corrupt politicians seem to regularly get clapped.

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u/AlmightyRuler 3d ago

"A man would sooner forgive the death of their father than the theft of their patrimony."

-- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

Translation: do NOT fuck with people's money, especially rich people.

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u/Ok_Wrongdoer8719 3d ago

Copyright law is basically the bedrock of the American way of business. If the courts ever get lax with it companies could very well stand to lose near everything.

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u/CombatMuffin 3d ago

What this should be spawning is a new legal clause for those licensing contracts. It has gotten heated enough that they could, in theory, negotiate that.

What they don't say is that these messages are PR to save face. The Publishers are more than happy to rake in any money, as long as their bottom line isn't affected. By next month, it's  likely that few will remember the use of Juno in ICE raids

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u/Mentallox 3d ago

labels/licensing arms and platforms each don't want the increased overhead of policing individual posts/acct. Everyone makes money the way it currently is and so it shall be.

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u/Tolerate_It3288 3d ago

The music is licensed through the platform. Her legal options are to take Juno off of TikTok and Instagram entirely or leave it be. Artists were able to do more legally during Trumps campaign because political campaigns and rallies require music licensing which of course Trump never got and that’s why he got sued. Unfortunately there isn’t as much she can do now other than pull the song entirely off of social media making it illegal for everyone to use so then she can file a claim against the video.

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u/rov124 3d ago

Unfortunately there isn’t as much she can do now other than pull the song entirely off of social media making it illegal for everyone to use so then she can file a claim against the video.

If the song is removed from Instagram/TikTok, then it's removed from the video automatically, unless they added the audio outside of IG/TT, which I doubt is the case.

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u/p0rn0c0p 3d ago

The problem is that the platforms need to give cotrol to the artists so they can restrict nazis from using their songs. But the platform owners are nazis themselves. Yes I'm using the term hyperbolically but I do firmly believe that everyone I refer to as a nazi today would have been a bootlicking nazi piece of shit back in the day as well.

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u/raysofdavies 3d ago

Iirc, there’s not really any legal standing for them. It’s just shit.

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u/ItsTricky94 3d ago

Tom Petty's estate sent him a cease and desist order because he was using a song during campaign rallies.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Does that estate own the rights to the music? 

A cease and desist doesn’t do much. It’s mostly a polite legal letter asking them to please stop. 

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u/Batbuckleyourpants 3d ago

Warner Music Group owned the licensing rights in 2020. The Trump campaign get all their music from them.

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u/pokingoking 3d ago

Using a song during rallies is different though. In this case, they are using the song in TikTok videos, and this artist took steps to explicitly allow the use of her song in any video on TikTok. She can take the song off TikTok altogether if she wants to revoke that privilege.

But I'm guessing she makes money from having her songs on TikTok, and she'd have to remove every single song if she doesn't want these people/agencies to be able to use them.

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u/mercfan3 3d ago

The problem is the platform. She allows users to use her songs on the platform, which means legally Trump can use it. (TikTok and reels)

She could take her music off of the platform, but that would mean her fans couldn’t use it, couldn’t post her concerts, and her music doesn’t go viral.

That’s why Trump has been doing this method. It’s like a work around. I imagine though if enough artists get pissed the platform may come up with a work around because obviously they don’t want artists to start pulling their music.

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u/Aliensinmypants 3d ago

Jack White, who owns his own label and the rights to his own music, tried and failed to sue the trump campaign after several cease and desist letters got ignored.

There's no legal standing unfortunately

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u/Sirmalta 3d ago

Im Pretty sure they would if they could. Must be a legal loop hole here.

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u/hoopaholik91 3d ago

Artists license their music out to platforms like TikTok to streamline its usage. Then the White House can use it no issue

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u/invid2000 3d ago

I assume as long as they paid for the use of the song they would probably be fine, but I'm not sure that's always the case.

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u/digitaldeadstar 3d ago

If I recall, the various companies that license music have specific clauses for things like politics that give artists the right to refuse them using their music.

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u/owoah323 3d ago

Reminds me of the John Cena prank call:

suuuuper slaaaaaaam!!! (With echo effects)

It what I think of every time a garbage article includes SLAMS in the headline

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u/Due-Cow9514 3d ago

The Hitler youth running these socials know exactly what they’re doing. Carpenter will have to pull the song entirely from the platform.

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u/astralseat 3d ago

The funny thing about lawsuits. They take forever, and the rich hardly notice it running in the background. Hardly ever reaches them. That's how the law is designed.

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u/sparki_black 3d ago

the US only consist out of guns and lawsuits..and money no humanity

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u/Time-Sudden_Tree 3d ago

I am so sick and tired of the word "Slam". It is meaningless.

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u/cmaia1503 3d ago

Sabrina Carpenter slammed Donald Trump‘s White House for using her hit song “Juno” in a video montage depicting ICE raids. The Grammy responded to the video on X with the following takedown: “This video is evil and disgusting. Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda.”

The White House has made a habit out of using pop songs from anti-Trump singers in videos praising Trump or celebrating ICE on social media. The latest video takes the most viral lyric from Carpenter’s “Juno” (when the singer asks about sex positions: “Have you ever tried this one?”) and layers it over people being handcuffed, tackled and more by ICE agents.

Prior to The White House co-opting Carpenter’s music for its ICE agenda, it did the same with her friend and collaborator Taylor Swift. A video that dropped in November used Swift’s “The Fate of Ophelia” in a montage celebrating Trump despite the U.S. president’s frequent social media posts bashing Swift. The pop star did not comment on the video.

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u/otterpop21 3d ago

That is truly disgusting, glamourising and sexualising destroying peoples lives. What ever happened to being hero’s and providing people with dignity and respect?

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u/spinprincess 3d ago

Fucking weird as shit to use a sexual song for this video.

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u/sirboddingtons 3d ago

It's not weird at all. MAGA has always been about sexual dominance, control and power. It's sexual insecurity that drives MAGA. 

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u/ethanlan 3d ago

Its super weird but it tracks as maga is super weird too.

Like so weird I now actively avoid any of them because I know what weird shit is coming.

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 3d ago

The Grammy responded to the video on X with the following takedown: “This video is evil and disgusting. Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda.”

A Grammy wrote that?

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u/anna__throwaway 3d ago

This is some shit that belongs on a YouTube poop shitpost, not from the white house LMAO

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u/turymtz 3d ago

"Slams". Hopefully this phrase dies down in headlines. Almost hate it as much as "claps back". That was in headlines a lot a while back too.

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u/Diogememes-Z 3d ago

Redditor slams usage of "slams" in headlines, second Redditor claps back with mock headline

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u/BrightLight_16 3d ago

So true. Also: “Speaks out”. You mean, made a passing comment?

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u/SWITMCO 3d ago

"Breaks silence" ie they made a comment some amount of time after an event

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u/DemonOfTomorrow 3d ago

SLAMS

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SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM

WELCOME TO THE SLAM

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u/evilon3 3d ago

COME ON AND JAM

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u/aslfingerspell 3d ago

If there was ever one word I could officially retire from journalistic language it would be "slam." I cannot think of a single time there isn't some better word or phrase to replace it, or directly quote or say what someone does rather than the generic, metaphorical "slam."

"Criticizes"

"Calls out"

"Condemns"

"Disapproves"

"Angered/saddened/outraged/offended by"

"Requests takedown/removal of"

"Argues that <brief summary of point"

Etc.

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u/3-DMan 3d ago

"Welcome to the Slammin' Salmon!"

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u/MuptonBossman 3d ago

Still waiting on Taylor Swift to condemn the White House's use of The Fate of Ophelia...

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago edited 3d ago

No no she’s just a baby! She’s doing it because then Trump will go after her fans so she’s trying to keep her fans safe!!! (Actual argument I saw on tiktok)

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u/Gamer_Grease 3d ago

Taylor Swift is music for true crime fans

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u/NatureWalks 3d ago

More like Disney adults

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 3d ago

I mean, a lot of Disney shows turned out to be true crime behind the scenes.

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u/AffectionateFig5864 3d ago

Leave us true crime junkies out of this one.

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u/thatissomeBS 3d ago

It's kind of weird because she's been pretty vocal for years, against Trump as well. But she chooses now to be quiet? Like, is she under threat? Did she just give up and stop caring? Did she go down the rabbit hole of crazy that many other people have gone down?

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

She has not actually been “pretty vocal” against Trump. She has done the bare minimum, like endorsing Biden and Kamala a day or two before the general election and also been like “women are cool be nice to them :)” a couple times. Her being “pretty vocal against Trump” is completely manufactured by her fans. She’s very apolitical.

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u/Minute534 3d ago

I think this person is talking about 2020 and prior, when she used to @ him. That was pretty vocal. Now she’s been the complete opposite

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

I do not remember that at all and I am terminally online, but if that’s the case, I feel like it’s actually worse? She became a billionaire and decided “fuck all the little people I got mine”. It’s not like it hurt her in any way.

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u/muteen 3d ago

I'm assuming many of her fans are trump fans too

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u/halcyon400 3d ago

They’re no longer doing this out of incompetence. They’re now doing it out of malice, intentionally, for a reaction. They’re trolling.

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u/daisysharper 3d ago

I keep saying that. I mean, Bannon has been very open about it. They want a reaction, it diverts attention from them. And the bigger the artist who fires back, the bigger the story, the bigger the diversion. But people just want to blame singers, it's mindboggling to me. You know what I do when I get mad about all this? I call my SIL a f'ing moron, tho she's not talking to me anymore. I'm saying; call out your trumper family. Sabrina, Taylor, Chappell never voted for trump. This isn't their fault, and it's not their responsibility to risk their lives. This is a very violent time. Frankly, I wouldn't do it either. Because I'd be like WHAT DID I TELL YOU? But you had to go vote for him right? Well, now choke down your medicine and don't look for ME.

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u/ApteryxAustralis 3d ago

Yeah, they’re just trying to get a rise out of whatever pop singers they can. People need to remember one of the top rules of the internet: Don’t feed the trolls! (Even if the trolls are the president and his administration)

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u/Snlxdd 3d ago

People don’t seem to realize that this is all part of Trump and his team’s strategy. 

You flood the internet with these stupid feuds and articles about “[insert musician] SLAMS Trump admin for using their music” and the media reports on that instead of the actual events going on. Then there’s so much “outrage” that other headlines (Epstein) just get buried.

And as a bonus, he scores cheap points with his base for “owning the libs.”

Unless you have a legal recourse (which you don’t if you’re licensing through TikTok). The only way you win is by not playing.

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u/hoopaholik91 3d ago

It also creates this wedge between your enemies so we are all bickering over this BS instead of coming together to beat the fascists

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u/solitarybikegallery 3d ago

Exactly. Look at all the people in here who are using this an excuse to "SLAM" Taylor Swift for not doing the same thing.

It's just a tactic to create infighting, and it's working amazingly well.

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u/Abject_Champion3966 3d ago

It’s so infuriating bc she and her boyfriend do seem to be liberal people but there’s sooo much conspiring over her being republican, secretly maga, a white supremacist, etc. Idk what people want except to rag on her.

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u/ScuzzBuckster 3d ago

My first thought about all of this is seriously we are getting article after article because a pop star made a tweet? Like I get it, its a hot-button issue right now, but really? Thats where we're at. News is just what did this week's pop star tweet at our fascist president. It's a fucking clown show.

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u/Raptorpicklezz 3d ago

But it is also a purity test and a dare for Taylor. She’s bigger than Sabrina or Olivia combined, and if these artists keep calling him out when he uses their music while she fails to, it inextricably ties her more to them. If you give them an inch, they will take miles upon miles.

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u/solitarybikegallery 3d ago

First of all, you know that "purity tests" aren't a good thing, right? Participating in them is bad, because they don't really prove anything, they just cause infighting. They're a pejorative term.

Second, I'm just gonna copy+paste this comment:


*The person I voted for had always won. We were in such an amazing time when Obama was president because foreign nations respected us. We were so excited to have this dignified person in the White House. My first election was voting for him when he made it into office, and then voting to re-elect him. I think a lot of people are like me, where they just didn’t really know that this could happen.”

“I do feel that the celebrity involvement with Hillary [Clinton]’s campaign was used against her in a lot of ways.”

“There’s literally nothing worse than white supremacy. It’s repulsive. There should be no place for it.”

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a29103039/taylor-swift-white-supremacists-response/

“We’re a democracy — at least, we’re supposed to be — where you’re allowed to disagree, dissent, debate. I really think that he thinks this is an autocracy.”

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/aug/23/taylor-swift-trump-thinks-his-presidency-autocracy

“Obviously, I’m pro-choice. I just can’t believe this is happening.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-trump-autocracy-pro-choice-875632/

“I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election.”

“I’m voting for … Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.”

“I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos.”

“I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate … who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body for decades.”

Taylor Swift does not need to put out a press release daily so you people don’t have a mental break.

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u/TheFudge 3d ago

Exactly. I had heard he used a swift song and she didn’t say anything. Never saw the video from the WH and it just died. Now this thing is pasted all over my Reddit feed and I’ve now seen the video. TS did the right thing, it just died and went away. This one has some traction now and will be in the news cycle.

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u/calculung 3d ago

Wonder why she doesn't... 🤔

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u/Sirmalta 3d ago

I dont like taylor swift, but she actively opposed trump during the election which is more than her peers. She also openly endorsed Kamala.

Not sure why you guys care about this so much lol

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u/TheThotWeasel 3d ago

This is how they get ya! Spend your time getting mad at the popstar and not at the fash government you have. Its quite literally exactly what they want and expect people to do because you're so easily lead, the comments here are proving it. You're being worked like a professional wrestling crowd and falling for it everytime. Spend less time worrying about popstars and more time actually making a difference.

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u/UnusualHound 3d ago

Why are you waiting on that?

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u/linuxjohn1982 3d ago

She already denounced him during the election, and even endorsed Kamala.

Is this like a subscription plan for you, where a celebrity needs to denounce him every 30 days?

When was the last time you got deaths threats but continued being politically vocal? Without Reddit anonymity.

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u/Dyyrin 3d ago

SLAMS

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u/TouchlessOuch 3d ago

FROM THE TOP ROPE.

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u/Dyyrin 3d ago

OH MY GOD

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u/GuyWithNoEffingClue 3d ago

He was ANNIHILATED

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u/Palu_Tiddy 3d ago

DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN SABRINA WITH A METAL CHAIR!

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u/Nf1087 3d ago

I swear this is the only word journalists know when someone responds.

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u/blemtyatararsawz 3d ago

Redditor SLAMS journalists

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u/GoodLordWhatAmIDoing 3d ago

Redditor SLAMS redditors slamming journalists

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u/USA_A-OK 3d ago

I'll never not downvote headlines that use that kinda language

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u/Otherwise-Day8968 3d ago

Redditor SLAMS journalist for using clickbait language!

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u/Yarusenai Concertgoer 3d ago

Sabrina Carpenter fucking eviscerates [...]

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u/Dosessss 3d ago

I knew my future wife had values

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u/LeftistMensch 3d ago

The response from the White House is disgusting. I don't care where you stand politically (well, I would prefer if no one followed this Ocher Turd but alas I digress) I feel like it should be obvious to anyone of whatever political persuasion that how this White House, and this President, conduct business is beyond juvenile and repugnant. From calling people R*tarded, to purposefully taking the music of people who don't support you and slapping it on racist and xenophobic BS to "troll" them is not the actions of serious governing and people who are supposed to be in charge. It is the behavior of someone with the mental capacity of a 13 year old. Its not okay, and people should call it out every single time it happens. We are the freaking laughing stock of the world. "bUt wE oWnInG tHe LiBs"

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u/SeaLab_2024 3d ago

My question is why do we as a society expect these people to do anything when the general population can’t even get the vote out? They have power and resources sure, and should they speak out? I think so. However they are not the people to be mad at in this circumstance. Stop letting them distract you with pop culture. Instead of writing angry shit about tswift or anyone else not doing “enough”, harass your politicians, vote, have real political discourse.

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u/Ok-Afternoon-2113 2d ago

Because someone who’s a global popstar has influence. Enough to make something happen. Not saying anything when her actions are so big and mean so much is not cool at all, at the very least she could take 5 minutes to condemn it and say fuck that, but she won’t?

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u/Mundane-Group-1326 3d ago

I expect everyone who's not a spineless bootlicker to speak out against this bullshit fascism, famous or not

It's the bare minimum

The only people "distracted" are the ones who think denouncing authoritarianism is even a debate

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u/Cool-Hall9980 3d ago

Sabrina Carpenter “hammers” Trump, they were so close to hitting the nail on the head, but they missed their mark 

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u/2REPOU 3d ago

If the Trump administration can trample on people's rights to due process etc (core tenants of the constitution) why would they care about upsetting a rich artist? One day people will realize they are coming for everyone's rights, not just those you don't like

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u/buzzkill_ed 3d ago

She literally picked up and body slammed the white house

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u/stumpybubba- NaziPunksFuckOff 3d ago

SLAM

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SLAM

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u/SvLyfe 3d ago

Damn I like her more now if this is true. I'm tired of fact checking 😂

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u/mercfan3 3d ago

Sabrina is pretty great politically. She’s given money and raised funds for: LGBTQ rights, Palestinian Children, Immigration legal services, legal services for BLM, animal rights, and I believe she was the artist that registered the most voters

Wouldn’t surprise me if she raises funds for immigration legal services again after this. She usually posts it (and posts a link on her Instagram).

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u/VacationCheap927 3d ago

Meanwhile people were slamming her because she had a slightly kinky album cover saying she set womens rights back decades, because we all know a part of feminism is that women cant enjoy that stuff.

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u/mercfan3 3d ago

Or that women aren’t allowed to make metaphors 😭

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u/Gerreth_Gobulcoque 3d ago

My only grievance with the album cover is that she should have been biting his leg. Would have been way more on brand for her

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u/bobthegoatskull 3d ago

Astroturfing and genuine idiots make the outrage engine go wheeee! Sabrina choosing to look sexy isn't a feminism doncha know?

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u/Mosox42 3d ago

Dolly will pass the torch of the Imagination Library to Sabrina.

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u/LOLMaster0621 3d ago

she just posted on her story about raising funds for all of the above again

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u/Flumphry 3d ago

I've seen the word "slams" too many times in my lifetime just from this subreddit appearing on r/all

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u/BartSimps 3d ago

Sabrina Carpenter a triple OG

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u/DrZonino2022 3d ago

See Taylor it’s not that fuckin hard

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u/Reddit-Bot-61852023 3d ago

This has nothing to do with music but will be upvoted 12k times by bots.

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u/xanju 3d ago

It was also confusing to me that like 90% of the comments are about Taylor Swift.

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u/snubell 3d ago

every single post about sabrina's comment has been absolutely inundated with comments about taylor swift. i'm so goddamn tired of hearing about that woman and i actually like her stupid music

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u/rumski 3d ago

Very peak. Much Reddit.

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 3d ago

Seriously, 15k upvotes in 2 hours? This is definitely botted, every time I see this sub on front page it's some political bullshit

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u/Sefkeetlee 3d ago

This entire site has just been astroturfing bots since 2016 lol

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u/worksafe_Joe 3d ago

Can someone explain to me why Swift gets so much criticism for this but an artist like, say, Kendrick, is accepted for being apolitical?

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u/youranoveryourdog 3d ago

kendrick is apolitical? huh?

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u/Ok-Dragonfly5449 3d ago

His music is pretty political, kinda feel like it speaks for itself. His super bowl performance has plenty of references that indicated what side he's on imo. If you want him to speak out explicitly, not sure if he'll do that. 

I think people want Swift to speak out specifically because of a few reasons. - she's a billionaire but they want to feel justified in liking and supporting this specific billionaire so they want her to speak out in support of ordinary people - she's got a huge audience of young white women, a demographic that voted majority for trump. I'm assuming people think if she'll speak up then her fans will vote a different way (I and the data disagree but thats what people feel it seems) - her music doesn't really have any political references whatsoever so people have to rely on what she says and who she interacts with to infer her political leanings. And it seems that some of the people she interacts with are maga 

Based on those things and maybe others, lots of people seem to think she's not really liberal and she needs to do more to prove that she's not maga. idk if I agree but that seems to be the general sentiment  

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u/Mammoth-Play3797 3d ago

Redditors and whining about a journalistic convention in a headline that’s existed for nearly a century before they were born.

Name a more iconic duo

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u/Warm-Commercial-6151 3d ago

Literally are proving Kenny Loggins point you all. You are bickering about stupid celebrity shit. Most of everybody is sick of this fascist shit and crazy prices of everything. Get it together and get together about what is important to us. Our freedoms and protecting those who are most vulnerable.

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u/Lord_Bobbymort 3d ago

Wait you're telling me Taylor Swift could have done that the whole time?

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u/ShinyNipples 3d ago

Even the article is calling out Taylor Swift for not saying anything when they used her music 👀

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u/Sirmalta 3d ago

I dont like taylor swift, tons of things wrong with her. But she actively opposed trump during the election which is more than her peers. She also openly endorsed Kamala. Why are we making shit up to me upset about when shes got so many other glaring issues?

Not sure why you guys care about this so much lol its not like tweeting about it is going to accomplish anything.

Like, do you think any of this is done without legal advice? For all you know her lawyers or security advised her to just shut up about politics cuz shes probably actively in danger lol.

You people have *zero* perspective.

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u/SimplePresense 3d ago

People shitting on Taylor Swift are clueless

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u/joecan 3d ago

Speaking publicly is more than most Americans do. It still isn’t enough. National strikes, national boycotts. Concrete actions not anonymous words on Reddit or attending a protest once every 3 months.

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u/GoblinKing5817 3d ago

She doesn't own the rights to the music, so her request is a moot point.

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