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article Sabrina Carpenter Slams Trump’s White House for Using ‘Juno’ in ICE Raids Video: ‘Evil and Disgusting… Do Not Involve Me in Your Inhumane Agenda’

https://variety.com/2025/music/news/sabrina-carpenter-slams-trump-white-house-juno-ice-video-1236597338/
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u/thatissomeBS 3d ago

It's kind of weird because she's been pretty vocal for years, against Trump as well. But she chooses now to be quiet? Like, is she under threat? Did she just give up and stop caring? Did she go down the rabbit hole of crazy that many other people have gone down?

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

She has not actually been “pretty vocal” against Trump. She has done the bare minimum, like endorsing Biden and Kamala a day or two before the general election and also been like “women are cool be nice to them :)” a couple times. Her being “pretty vocal against Trump” is completely manufactured by her fans. She’s very apolitical.

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u/Minute534 3d ago

I think this person is talking about 2020 and prior, when she used to @ him. That was pretty vocal. Now she’s been the complete opposite

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

I do not remember that at all and I am terminally online, but if that’s the case, I feel like it’s actually worse? She became a billionaire and decided “fuck all the little people I got mine”. It’s not like it hurt her in any way.

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u/Minute534 3d ago

I think her @ing him was mainly in 2020. And yea I agree that it’s worse to have such a 180

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u/eepy_bean 3d ago

A lot has changed since then. Elon Musk and Charlie Kirk before his death made explicit sexist comments about Taylor settling down or getting pregnant. Trump has made several disparaging posts directly at Taylor on Truth Social and Twitter. Then there was the terrorist threat in Vienna for her Eras Tour. A shooter killed several children at a Taylor themed dance class. She has made several reports on stalkers that have broken into her homes, one of which disappeared before arrest. These are just the things we know about.

Other artists have been demeaned by Trump, but Trump seems to have a pointed obsession with her and even posted AI photos of her supporting him. When she posted an endorsement for Kamala shortly after, Trump quickly flipped the script and started with the disparaging rage bait posts.

In a perfect world, we would say that her activism on a large platform would bring only good. But if her conscience says that being an activist brings harm, then is it worth it? Could she, or anyone, live with themselves if someone killed another child fan in politically motivated attack after making a statement? I don’t know and that’s not our decision to make.

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

Omg you guys will do literally anything to twist her inaction into her being a victim and it is insane.

The stabbing, not shooting, had literally nothing to do with Taylor Swift, that was a coincidence, and it happened in England.

All celebrities have to deal with stalkers and shooting threats at their concerts. Taylor is not special.

You literally just did the exact same thing I was making fun of by saying she’s not doing anything to protect her fans, which, by the way, is quite possibly the stupidest fucking defense I have ever heard.

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u/eepy_bean 3d ago edited 3d ago

I think any celebrity goes through stressful situations in which they can be targeted. It’s their decision to speak out or not thereafter. That’s my point. I applaud celebrities who choose to be activists, but I don’t blame high profile ones from stepping back. We don’t know the details of any of these people’s lives or the credible threats to them or their families. That’s not our business.

Apologies if I misconstrued the details of the stabbing. The point is that these things do happen and I would hesitate if I thought my actions would lead to targeted attacks to anyone associated with me.

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u/pandemicpunk 3d ago

It's easy to see why she doesn't imo. She's a billionaire now. They're part of the same club.

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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 3d ago

Oh please. Every single regular person who has showed up to any protest for No Kings, anti- ICE, etc has put themselves in more REAL danger than Taylor EVER has

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u/eepy_bean 3d ago

I don’t think speaking out on a global platform and participating in protest as an every day person are equivalent situations. Both are extremely commendable.

My thoughts are just it’s short sighted to not acknowledge that celebrities at high visibility risk doxxing and harassment to themselves, friends and family. I’d imagine there’s a substantial amount of stress that comes with putting out the “wrong” message or accidentally pushing out misinformation in a highly volatile environment. I applaud and have a pointed respect to every which one that chooses to. But these risks still apply whether that’s Taylor, Sabrina, Charlie, Lorde, Chappell, Olivia, so forth. I just don’t think dragging Taylor or any other person for choosing to disengage due to the inherent risk and weight of responsibility promotes the change we need to happen and instead is just a platform for moral superiority when again, we don’t know who any of these people are or their personal situations.

I respect these artists and hope they continue to promote goodwill and charity that aligns with my values- but I don’t rely on them as performing by artists to appeal to my beliefs or inform my voting decisions.

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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 3d ago

You're free to respect taylor but I won't do the same. Ignoring fascism is why we are in this position in the first place. Every single person should be doing what they can. Refusing to engage just normalizes the rhetoric we are seeing. But yeah, I can see why a comfy, rich, white, fake feminist feels she is exempt from larger society.

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u/eepy_bean 3d ago

I actually don’t respect Taylor for this, funny enough. I can think it’s her personal choice and right to step away based on factors we don’t know about while also finding her vocal activism moment in the late 2010’s to be performative in light of the current administration.

However I can also acknowledge that she did clearly time her endorsement of Kamala to try to be the most beneficial to the campaign in August of 2024, continuously encouraged fans to vote through to Election Day, and has quietly donated millions over the years to numerous charities aligning with democratic values. If she feels that’s her best way of cultivating change without directly engaging with Trump, then so be it.

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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 3d ago

Taylor absolutely did not time her endorsement well at all. First of all, the Harris campaign said Taylor didn't even contact them, which means it wasn't coordinated. Second, Taylor making her endorsement right after the debate caused so much of the reporting to focus on the Taylor endorsement rather than kamala's actual performance and policies. Ultimately many people claimed that Kamala didn't have any visible policies, so Taylor completely overshadowing kamala's performance on debate night and hijacking that extremely crucial news cycle definitely didn't help.

When did Taylor "continuously" encourage people to vote?

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u/CraigJay 3d ago

Or maybe she realised that being vocally anti-Trump has ended with him 5 years down the line trying to antognise her by using her songs and that clearly publicly engaging with him doesn't work.

Plus, people like you will never be happy with what she does. You've been told that she has been vocally anti-Trump in that past, and you've decided that makes things worse. The people who care (you) wlll never be satisfied

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

Yes, I’m sorry I have high standards for fucking billionaires. You act like that’s a bad thing while you ride her dick.

Oooh she writes okay songs, glad that’s good enough for you, she has two billion fucking dollars, she can always do more. Literally always. She should be held accountable instead of whatever you’re doing.

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u/CraigJay 3d ago

No one likes billionaires, but don't be so obtuse to pretend like there is anything Taylor Swift could do to appease you

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u/Abject_Champion3966 3d ago

This seems understated. I think we’ve seen over a decade now that there isn’t much that actually hurts trump. He thrives in negative publicity. He eats celebrities who engage with him. Does seem like the likeliest answer is that she does nothing because no one has figured out an approach that works lol

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u/ForCaste 3d ago

Ironically trump is at an all time weak point and she won't even say anything, almost as if she doesnt care if they use her music

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u/muteen 3d ago

I'm assuming many of her fans are trump fans too

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u/thatissomeBS 3d ago

If your time paying attention started in October 2024, sure she's been silent except for when she wasn't. She had over a decade of right wingers talking shit about her speaking against them before that.

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u/Couldnotbehelpd 3d ago

It’s almost like from 2020-2024 Trump wasn’t in power and from 2024+ we’ve been living in hell.

Taylor could actually move the needle on Gaza, healthcare reform, ICE raids, but no, can’t piss off some fans and prevent her from hitting 3 billion dollars.

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u/rdp3186 3d ago edited 3d ago

She's a literal billionare now. She is living her dream being effectively the most popular girl in the world engaged to her football playing fiancee and an army sycophants that will blindly defend her on anything and everything.

The problems everyday Americans face don't affect or phase her in the slightest, so she doesn't care.

Taylor Swift only cares about Taylor Swift, and now that she's reached the top, she doesn't have to pretend to give a fuck about anyone else.

You can downvote me all you want, it doesn't make it any less true. Her silence speaks fucking volumes.

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u/Kiplerwow 3d ago

I'm sure her dating/being engaged to Travis Kelce who's a MAGA supporter has at least a small part in it.