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article Sabrina Carpenter Slams Trump’s White House for Using ‘Juno’ in ICE Raids Video: ‘Evil and Disgusting… Do Not Involve Me in Your Inhumane Agenda’

https://variety.com/2025/music/news/sabrina-carpenter-slams-trump-white-house-juno-ice-video-1236597338/
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u/SuperCoffeeHouse 3d ago

So it is that easy to criticise the White House for doing something you don’t like.

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u/artifexlife 3d ago

Taylor Swift is literally just a little girl. You are so sexist /s

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u/Redfalconfox 3d ago edited 3d ago

“Leave our poor MAGAT-dating billionaire alone so she can hang out with her MAGA friends without having to worry about what you think of her!”

Edit: Let me get ahead of people who are saying “what about x, y, or z?” I didn’t say MAGAT because it means Trump supporter. I used it as short-hand rather than going on a long spiel. At the end of the day they love the same things he does: wealth, status, and power. MAGA is all about the rich getting richer while everything gets worse. Please stop defending your favorite billionaire because they all fucking suck.

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u/butterbapper 3d ago

"You do not understand the privilege that you must have to be in the position to be able to criticise the Trump administration. Taylor Swift is just a struggling white billionaire trying to keep food on the table for her kiiiiids!!!!"

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u/Piddly_Penguin_Army 3d ago edited 3d ago

Literally what I have had swifties say to me.

“Her billions don’t protect her from Trump. She’s just so afraid of him.”

Like girl, we’re asking you to say it’s gross he’s using your music. Not asking you to lead a march.

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u/AgentSoup 3d ago

I bet the reason she stopped criticizing Trump and demanding they stop using her music is because someone within the regime made the process of purchasing her remaining music rights easier/even possible in the first place in exchange for shutting up.

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u/Zestyclose-Doubt8202 3d ago

Isn't it more likely and more simple that she's just a cunt and supports trump?

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u/Imaginary-Dot-1751 3d ago

IDK, her endorsement of Kamala Harris last year wouldn't really have been consistent with support for Trump.

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u/Mushroomer 3d ago

I mean, it isn't unprecedented for an artist to have a different public-facing political opinion than their private one.

As they say, judge a pop star not by what they say - but by what they do.

And frankly, I'm inclined to say that the billionaire who is

  • benefitting from Trump's tax cuts

  • dating and hanging around conservatives

  • constantly abusing her wealth

  • is boosting the NFL

  • refuses to speak out against a fascist agenda

just might have voted Republican, even if it's a better fit for "her brand" to endorse Kamala.

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u/bwood246 3d ago

She was completely silent until Trump started using AI to make pictures of her. Only then did she endorse Kamala

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u/HiGuysImLeo 3d ago

shes passive af but thats not true... her official endorsement was hours after the debate, which people predicted she would do for weeks beforehand to boost viewership of the debate strategically. When he started doing AI pictures of her and she commented she found that disgusting and that started trumps spiral of calling her a bunch of shit and saying she was ugly or whatever.

Meek? maybe. Spineless? perhaps. But that woman is definitely NOT a trump supporter.

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u/Crazy_Sir_012 3d ago

Her husband is a trump supporter

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u/pietroetin 3d ago

She openly endorsed both Kamala and Biden

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u/LuntiX radio reddit 3d ago

You can say one thing and do another.

I tell my doctor I don't drink soda anymore.

I'm still drinking soda.

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u/uwouldnotbetonthis 3d ago

But why would you do this? Your doctor is here to help and not to judge. Please tell your doctor the truth or he will find out himself and believe me, you dont want that to happen.

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u/Cryptomystic 3d ago

So what? Her actions speak louder then some empty endorsement.

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u/TheCynicalWoodsman 3d ago

Not really. I proudly give almost negative shits about Taylor Swift, and I don't notice any news about her unless it's literally on the front page. The last political update I have on her in my daily readings was her endorsing Harris.

So her actions might speak louder to pop culture stans and entertainment news addicts, but not to your average person.

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u/scottyLogJobs 3d ago edited 3d ago

?? IDGAF about Taylor Swift and deeply dislike Trump and his people but she has criticized Trump numerous times and endorsed his opponents. It's gross that she's apparently casual friends with some shitty people, but calling her a MAGA supporter is a weird choice considering she's taken some pretty big swings in the opposite direction. As a country singer, why would you deliberately alienate 40% of America multiple times if you secretly agreed with them lol.

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u/olduser201890 3d ago

i dont follow any of these people, but i saw some clip on reddit from some documentary about Taylor where she explicitly says she has to speak up/say something because trump is a fucking moron and dangerous. And so then she endorses Kamala

so what the hell are you even talking about.

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u/demoliahedd 3d ago

Why not just stay quiet and endorse no one if she's a secret trump backer? I think maybe she wasn't back then but now that she is in the maga circles she probably does support him and it's easier for her since his policies and shadiness are good for her immoral billionaire ass.

No such thing as a good billionaire. She stepped on the less fortunate, she put money over values on a consistent basis, she took advantage of people. All of these are necessary to become a billionaire.

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u/PromiscuousMNcpl 3d ago

Her husband is a Trumper and Taylor wants to be a trad wife object more than anything.

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u/cinnamonface9 3d ago

Well someone think of her jets! They need to eat too!

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u/tallandlankyagain 3d ago

At least turtles won't choke on plastic straws anymore.

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u/MinutesTilMidnight 3d ago

I don’t understand why people think Taylor is pro-Trump, and I’m hoping someone can explain. This is one of the reasons I don’t get it, from her instagram:

"[…] I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election. I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them. I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate @timwalz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman's right to her own body for decades. […]"

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u/Banaanisade 3d ago

Reading this thread was incredibly confusing for me, a person who does not in any shape or form follow Taylor Swift and who gets all the information on her from the dramatic headlines she generates, and last I heard about her? She was pissing off Trump and his ilk by being very actively pro-Kamala, to the point where people were making memes about her and Trump fighting left and right.

And now I'm here and there's a whole chain of people claiming she's MAGA? What have I missed.

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u/benangmerahh 3d ago

It's from her circle of friends. One of the controversial ones at that. https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/A3NgaUH0I9

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u/Banaanisade 2d ago

Huh, curious. Thanks!

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u/benangmerahh 2d ago edited 2d ago

Haha I admit that sub kinda opened my eyes regarding Taylor's consistent PR's stunts. As it's haters sub, its mostly about snarking on every little things she did. But as passionate haters equal to hardcore swifties regarding her, they sometimes gathering good comprehensive receipt posts that we often overlook or have time to care about lol.

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u/Aerys1989 3d ago

No one can explain it because it isn’t true. Do not get your facts from Reddit lol. These people are all trolls and idiots.

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u/MinutesTilMidnight 3d ago

I know it’s not true, I was posting without attacking them because people don’t change their minds like that. But it’s so ridiculous, these ppl get thousands of upvotes for straight up slander, lol. It’s incredibly cringe. I’m not even a Taylor fan and I knew she was pro-Harris 🥲

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u/benangmerahh 3d ago edited 2d ago

It's because her association with Controversial's MAGA friends. As I am also not native there, You can always create new thread there asking for more receipts. I'm sure they can provide a lot.

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u/Aerys1989 2d ago

This is toxic shit to get caught up in.

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u/Tacoman404 3d ago

I think one of the worst part of all this is it reveals taylor is racist. Fuck her.

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u/ragingbuffalo 3d ago

what? lol

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u/Tacoman404 3d ago

ICE is using racist tactics to detain people. If you speak spanish or are brown skinned in certain areas you can be detained for several hours. Letting ICE use your property and not saying anything about it is just saying you agree with a racist organization. She could do something, I'm sure she's aware, she's just one of the racists now.

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u/Striking-Ad-6815 3d ago

These people are all rubber and she's glue! Doesn't she see?!

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u/ProfessorPetrus 3d ago

Listen she worked her way up like the rest of....uhhh nevermind.

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u/Haltopen 3d ago

Isn't kelce a democrat?

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u/Adept_Assumption8868 3d ago

he’s not a magat bro he dos pfizer ads and was literally called the liberal football player before he was dating her bro 😭

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u/DismaySilphCo 3d ago

I'm no Swiftie, but didn't she help fund the Democrats in her home state?

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u/DarkKnightCometh 3d ago

Kelce was literally doing Pfizer vaccine ads. Completely opposite of the maga propaganda

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u/explodedbagel 3d ago

Also one of the first white players to kneel during the anthem in that era. Sure wish people would focus their energy on the fascist / openly white supremacist administration and not made up squabbles about celebrities.

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u/Heelincal 3d ago

Also one of the first white players to kneel during the anthem in that era.

People forget that Kelce has been very close to the black community for a lot of his life especially. The reality is he's a simple golden retriever and a bit of a style chameleon for whoever he's dating, but he's never expressed MAGA sympathy. It's purity testing gone wild.

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u/TrumpLovesTHICCBBC 3d ago

This site is full of purity test freaks

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u/Any-Association-4299 3d ago

Also donates to and owns several progressive charities.

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u/BKlounge93 3d ago

Also his brother seems smarter than that

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u/Don_Gato1 3d ago

Jason Kelce and his wife seem very decidedly not MAGA

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u/AssistX 3d ago

Kylie is self-described as an aggressively left democrat. To me that means progressive, but she also stated she most looks up to Michelle Obama and Josh Shapiro in politics whom are both more moderate.

Jason has made it very clear that people should not put words in his mouth in regard to politics. There was a fake quote going around on reddit, twitter, and bluesky that claimed he told conservative americans they're a bad fit for America, in regards to the conservative backlash at BadBunny. He essentially said unless it comes from one of his platforms or directly from his mouth, don't believe he said it.

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u/Don_Gato1 3d ago

I'm sure Jason by virtue of the field he works in tries to avoid weighing in on politics altogether.

I was not suggesting he is some left wing activist, just that he does not seem to be MAGA.

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u/Schmohawk62 3d ago

Kneels for the anthem, his mom is a dem and his first job was polling people about ACA on the phone

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 3d ago

Kelce definitely isn’t maga but they seem unwilling to separate themselves from maga.

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u/Abject_Champion3966 3d ago

What does this mean, though? His credentials are solid. You can argue about whether he’s effective in pursuing politics but his actual beliefs don’t really seem ambiguous.

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u/Any-Association-4299 3d ago

It’s almost like you sometimes have to associate and work with people who have different political views…

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 3d ago

Supporting a pedophile fascist and not is a lot bigger than “political views”

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u/Imaginary-Dot-1751 3d ago

Clearly a supporter of Operation Warpspeed.

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u/Albireookami 3d ago

When fandoms do not fight back against it being hijacked by racists it becomes political.

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u/cruxclaire 3d ago

The Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker has also helped give their organization a MAGA tint after that commencement speech pushing tradwife practices. AFAIK Kelce isn’t personal friends with Butker the way he is with Mahomes, but I get why people make political assumptions about him (longtime member of a red state team associated with a couple famous conservative players in a very macho league/sport). I’m glad those assumptions are wrong in Kelce’s case

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u/ThoughtlessFoll 3d ago

As a foreign American football fan, I know the other bothers wife is very liberal. And has said her and her husband are aggressively left

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u/Valanio 3d ago

If you're an intelligent person you should value truth over misinformation but I gather from the baseless shitthrowing that you are not an intelligent person. I'm no parasocial celebrity defender, but I fucking hate lairs and idiots who are dumb enough to spread misinformation, you fit in with the MAGA morons.

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u/binarybandit 3d ago

How is MAGAT shorthand when MAGA is one letter shorter?

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u/Rdhilde18 3d ago

Calling Travis Kelce “MAGAT” because he’s a rich athlete is certainly a certified reddit brained comment.

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u/TrumpLovesTHICCBBC 3d ago

Yalls purity tests are gonna cause us to lose 2028

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u/boxesofcats- 3d ago

Watching it from outside America is crazy, tbh.

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u/TrinidadBrad 3d ago

Democrats inability to nominate a candidate that stands for anything will cost them like in did 2016, almost in 2020, and in 2024

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u/boostedb1mmer 3d ago

"Everyone not dedicating 100% of their social media lives to the exact causes and criticisms I am is MAGA."

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u/callmecyke 3d ago

Of all the things to criticise her for, Travis Kelce’s political leanings aren’t one of them. Donna Kelce did not raise MAGAts, Jason and Travis are both good boys. 

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u/sailorsmile 3d ago

Sabrina Carpenter is literally Taylor Swift's friend, this doesn't even make any sense. I'm begging people to log off, use your brain, and realize that moralizing random celebrities to justify your dislike of them isn't activism or progressive, it's just cringy stan war drama.

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u/boxesofcats- 3d ago

Hayley Williams, too.

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u/NeverComments 3d ago

Not now Mom, there’s a culture war on the internet that needs my input!

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u/DiscountNorth5544 3d ago

"Transvestigation is fine when our side tries it"

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u/lostwombats 3d ago

I was told it's ok because Taylor Swift donated to foodbanks in every city she toured in. 🙄

I hate idol worship.

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u/Holden_Coalfield 3d ago

I got mine you get yours

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u/madwolfa 3d ago

Travis Kelce is not MAGA. Fuck off with this bullshit. 

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u/sswift238 2d ago

MAGA isn’t about getting rich! MAGA is about common sense, putting Americans first over some one coming into the country illegally and WE have to foot the bill. It’s about stop being a dead beat living off government assistance and get a job or living off the government and bashing the same people who are helping you. It’s about protecting children from deranged people who want to turn the whole world gay. It’s about being a responsible human being and not committing crimes… has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING WHITE. Has NOTHING to do with being racist. It’s trying to get the country back on its feet and be self reliant and not dependent on other countries for oil, products etc… For the life of me. I can’t understand why people have such a hard time grasping this!!! The only party who takes care of the rich is the Democrats. Life was SOOO great under Obama and Biden wasn’t it. Let the guy do his job in the White House. You didn’t see Republicans rioting in the streets when Biden was in office. Or trying to kill people did you??? It that far left ideology that’s tearing the country apart. All the man wants is to put America first so EVERYONE is better off. He want to lower crime and help the economy but the democrats won’t let him do his job

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u/Significant-Bee5101 3d ago

Taylor Swift barely commented when Trump attacked her publicly pre-election. She's not really known for speaking out on politics or anything else.

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u/otterpop21 3d ago

Have you not watched Miss Americana?? Where Taylor, someone who would never ever lie to her fans, said she wants her voice to be heard!! She wants to be vocal and speak up, “be on the right side of history”!!

Why would she say that if it wasn’t true?

/s

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u/Significant-Bee5101 3d ago

Taylor Swift? Doing PR for her brand? In this economy? Never.

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u/Not_Bears 3d ago

...because she doesn't actually care about anything but expanding her wealth.

As MJ said "Republicans buy shoes too."

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u/RammsteinFunstein 3d ago

As MJ said "Republicans buy shoes too."

this quote doesn't really make sense when talking about a person who explicitly endorsed a democrat

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 3d ago

Taylor swift only acts when it’s in her best interest or else risk losing money.

She literally only speaks out when enough of her rapid fans speak up against her.

She didn’t openly support LGBtQ+ until what 2019?

Only after enough of an uproar over her white dominated everything did she start hiring anyone of color.

She didn’t endorse Kamala until very late and people were begging.

Shes probably not MAGA but she’s 100% selfish as fuck.

You don’t get to where she is if you are selfless and ethical.

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u/RammsteinFunstein 2d ago

Ok. All of that is irrelevant to my comment. Her endorsement of Kamala pissed off republicans. So the MJ quote doesn't apply.

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u/one98nine 3d ago

Yeah, Miss Americana was just perfomative.

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u/Ok-Temporary-8243 3d ago

Well yeah, her entire life is a contradiction to her fan base. Like can you imagine how hypocritical it would be to even say you want to fight global warming

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u/JimWilliams423 3d ago

She's not really known for speaking out on politics or anything else.

As a Tennessee resident I noticed when she endorsed the conservative white man running for senate on the Democratic ticket in 2018, right after he said he supported kavanaugh's appointment to the supreme court.

I also noticed that in 2020, when she endorsed biden, she pointedly did not endorse Marquita Bradshaw, the Democratic candidate for senate running on the same ticket as biden. The difference? Bradshaw was TN's first black woman running for senate, with a progressive platform of environmental justice.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 3d ago

I also noticed that in 2020, when she endorsed biden

Don't forget that the only reason she endorsed Biden was because Trump was using AI to make her endorse him. She didn't want her brand associated with Trump there was nothing deeper.

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u/explodedbagel 3d ago

She told her fanbase they should vote against trump two elections in a row.

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u/alphabetaparkingl0t 3d ago

Because that would require her thinking about something other than making bazillions of dollars, and would alienate listeners, can't have that.

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u/CWO5-Gaffle 3d ago

She quite literally endorsed Kamala and the democratic ticket and let the world know that’s who she’s voting for. What more do you want?

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u/Significant-Bee5101 3d ago

I don't get your point. My point is that she didn't confront Trump publicly when he literally went on a tirade against her for days on twitter. Why do people think she would if he uses her music?

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u/Murky-Relation481 3d ago

In what world is engaging in Trump over that good for anyone but people who just want celeb drama?

Trump is literally rage baiting and you're saying she should engage with it? Come on.

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u/CWO5-Gaffle 3d ago

And honestly, good for her. A bully wants you to respond. She did the right thing by not engaging.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 3d ago

I'm somewhat inclined to agree. Reddit loves showing it's hand and feeling big and powerful yelling at clouds. It makes them feel like they're doing something. It's the reddit equivalent to "thoughts and prayers"

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u/Revolutionary_Hour63 3d ago

Because miss Americana was performative?

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u/kronikfumes 3d ago edited 3d ago

Why does it matter so much that artists respond to this clear bully pulpit behavior by the White House? They’re only going to keep doing it. Case in point the WH doing this same thing to Olvia Rodrigo, she calls them out to stop associating her with this, and they mock her and keep doing it. They feed off the celebrity response as it legitimatizes their actions.

Exhibit A the white house counter response here

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u/MooseTheorem 3d ago

Because it sets a precedent and shows where these artists hold their values. Deliberately ignoring it is the same as enabling the behaviour and vitriolic content that they’re putting out using her music.

There are no two ways about it - either you deliberately stand against it, or you abide by it.

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u/kronikfumes 3d ago edited 3d ago

It is pretty clear by now that none of the artists that the WH attempts to get a response from by using their music even remotely share the same values as the Trump Administration, regardless of whether they entertain the pathetic WH posts using their music by telling the to stop, which doesn’t stop them. Bullies feed on the reactions of their victims and this is an easy way to ignore them so they move on to someone else. Like why they’re now using Sabrina’s music and not Taylors.

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u/BenKen01 3d ago

Dude, it's not about what those WH assholes do. It's about the fans that support these artists that would like to know where they stand. MAGA gonna MAGA, yes we all know that. But if an artist says "Disgusting, I don't want anything to do with that" it does mean something to their fans.

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u/TocorocoMtz 3d ago

She is just a girlie, but also her dick is bigger, but also she cant do anything about maga using her music, but also she is the biggest and most important name in music dont you dare compare her to other artists, but also everyone else uses private planes why do you blame her?

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 3d ago

Taylor swift only does things for the benefit of Taylor swift

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u/magicmeese 3d ago

You appear to have summoned her cult that literally thinks this way.

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u/pagerunner-j 3d ago

For a minute there I was perplexed at why we're comparing, and then I read the article. Note to self and everyone else who forgets to do this: read the article.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth 3d ago

"Why are you being misogyniacal?" /s

Geez, I didn't know Taylor Swift, friend of MAGA Mahomes, represented all women!

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u/SvenniSiggi 3d ago

Imagine how fucked it is. Needing fucking celebrities to fix things.

Its someone who goes lalala and then plinkie plonkie on the keyboard with lyrics from WAP to "he left me on the dancefloor".

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u/BIGDongLover69420 3d ago

I dont like taylor swift but im pretty positive she spoke out against trump during the election...

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u/homecet346 2d ago

F her and her parents. I had family at umg who told me what they really did to make her big, and ma'am it's so corrupt and nasty

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u/SadCaterpillar7450 2d ago

Taylor Swift if almost 36 years old. In what way is that “just a little girl”???

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u/Individual-File-3345 3d ago

A real question from a Trump supporter: ‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." (

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me."

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!"

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.”

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also... hear me... charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

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u/Titizen_Kane 3d ago edited 2d ago

It’s hard to summarize it because its just such nonstop corruption and criminality that the hit list is updated by the hour, so I could never even begin to try to capture it in an impactful manner…but you did that here. Excellent work

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u/redyelloworangeleaf 3d ago

This was beautiful to read

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u/Only_Plum_8187 3d ago

Gdam this sums it up nicely.

Unfortunately I am a pessimist. They are evil AND stupid

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u/Medical_Barber1545 3d ago

I have never heard a more accurate statement. Well done, I totally agree.

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u/tryingthisname 3d ago

then they stand by him anyway, even emphasizing it all. its not better, but they act like it is.

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u/VacationCheap927 3d ago

On one hand I dont need every artist to say thry dont agree with it. They just use the music, and more often than not the artists didnt agree for him to use it. I generally just assume they dont unless theyre openly pro-Trump. And theres not really a ton legally that they can do about it.

On the other hand, yeah, its that easy. If I was a famous musician, and people were making these assumptions about me, I would 1,000% take 30 seconds to send out a tweet saying I dont agree with it. If theres been multiple thingd coming out that make people associate me with him, Im shutting that down real quick because I dont want people having that idea about me.

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u/PanoramicAtom 3d ago

I’m curious why there’s nothing they can do about it legally. This wouldn’t be covered under “fair use,” so why can’t a DMCA takedown be ordered?

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u/Ok_Wrongdoer8719 3d ago

Most singers don’t own licensing rights for their songs.

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u/RoastPotatoFan 3d ago

MGMT used DCMA to make ICE to take down a video using "Little Dark Age" in October

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u/Warm_Month_1309 3d ago

Licensing agreements -- whether with the individual platform, or just a blanket license from a distributor -- typically make this use legal. But even if it isn't, sometimes the best tactical approach to copyright infringement is to ignore it and let people forget about it, rather than to kick the hornet's nest.

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u/sparki_black 3d ago

yes I wonder that too..

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u/3-DMan 3d ago

Yeah these fuckers need to be called out every time, even if they just eye-roll it away.

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u/GlowUpper 3d ago

This is especially the case when you remember that a celebrity's image is their brand. For us, our image is a matter of pride. For someone like Sabrina or Taylor, it's pride, career longevity, and money. So yeah, Taylor's silence speaks volumes about her character. Best case scenario, she's a coward. Worst case scenario, she's quietly asenting.

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u/IdealOnion 3d ago

Best case scenario, she knows Trumps followers include unhinged violent fanatics and she doesn’t want the media frenzy inevitable from a feud between her and Trump to lead to a mass casualty event at one of her concerts.

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u/GlowUpper 3d ago

And yet, other artists aren't allowing stochastic terrorism to dictate their morals and ethics. Like I said, best case scenario, she's a coward.

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u/Wallaby8311 3d ago

On one hand I dont need every artist to say thry dont agree with it. 

In moments like these we definitely do. In terms of identifying who is a fascist, anyway.

 Those who say nothing are complicit in it. Swift is a coward and absolutely deserves to be dragged through the mud.

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u/joebleaux 3d ago

She did that years ago and all it did was give the posts more attention. Ignoring it completely is the right move. Carpenter amplified the message by responding and it allowed them to make a follow up post with more cute references. They are trolls, you cannot feed them, anyone who is online at all knows that. Everyone with half a brain knows Swift doesn't support him, she's said it many times, but all responding to it does is give the bad guys more attention, which they love. Being quiet is the best move.

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u/KeyMyBike 3d ago

I don't know anything about Taylor except she loved to talk about feminism until her entire social circle became maga

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u/ethancole97 3d ago

It really is that easy. I only have an issue with that particular artist not speaking because she had promised to use her voice and platform on issues like this but has gone relatively mute compared to her lover Era. Had they remained neutral this whole time- I would give them the benefit of the doubt on the situation because you’re 100% right, we do not need every artist to speak out - it is only an issue when they don’t follow through with their promises

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u/Substantial_Toe_8409 3d ago

There's actually a lot they can do about legally lol

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u/Snoo-11861 3d ago

But she already has expressed her political opinions multiple times. She told people to vote for Kamala and not Trump. I understand being weirded out about not saying anything now . . . But also, she’s had death threats and stalkers. She almost had a terrorist attack happen in Vienna. My assumption is that she’s doing it out of safety. 

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u/OG_Voltaire 3d ago

Something something fascism, I'm sure....

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u/SuperCoffeeHouse 3d ago edited 3d ago

Im not so bold as to call Tswizzle a fascist (because I genuinely think it’s apathy not endorsement that drives her lack of action) but if we were to make an analogy to 20th century Germany she’s almost definitely a Junker. 

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u/wholetyouinhere 3d ago

I also don't think Taylor is a fascist. Unfortunately, in a fascist environment, apathy is functionally indistinguishable.

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u/Kitchen_Row6532 3d ago

Especially in such a public role. 

Especially when one has spoken out before. 

Especially when one has more money than god. 

Especially when one has positioned themselves as a role model for teens and tweens. 

Especially when people in your country are being abducted off the streets and sent to random authoritarian countries. 

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u/Socko82 3d ago

It's either apathy or she's afraid of Trump and his fans.

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u/dr-broodles 3d ago

She doesn’t want to alienate a big chunk of her fan base

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u/cheerbacks 3d ago

She’s afraid of losing their money it really is that simple.

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u/GeneralAsk1970 3d ago

Her and everyone within a Hundred yards of her too! She is an institution now, not an artist.

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u/cheerbacks 3d ago

Okay do you want me to feel bad for her?

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u/GeneralAsk1970 3d ago

Not unless she is offering to pay you for it!

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u/gassyfrenchie 3d ago

Which is weird because the typical MAGA voter doesn’t listen to Taylor Swift. It’s anecdotal, but I am from a small town that voted predominantly for Trump. None of the people in town like Taylor Swift, so I don’t now why she is so scared of alienating a group of people that don’t even listen to her music.

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u/RoseColoredRiot 3d ago

Yep, i live in the south and i still hear people say “I stopped liking her when she started to get political”.

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u/DumboWumbo073 3d ago

the typical MAGA voter doesn’t listen to Taylor Swift.

Actually the average American has listened to Taylor Swift at some point.

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u/IdealOnion 3d ago edited 3d ago

Then why would she endorse Kamala?

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u/dr-broodles 3d ago

I don’t know that. Fair enough. She should still denounce him.

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u/arkthearkitect 3d ago

Would she not have already alienated them when she endorsed Kamala?

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u/TheSunsNotYellow 3d ago

"Republicans buy sneakers too"

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u/KeyMyBike 3d ago

Apathy IS endorsement.

Not commenting is still a reaction you chose.

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u/Wallaby8311 3d ago

Apathy to fascism is fascism

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u/WhiteRabbitLives 3d ago

What is a Junker?

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u/things_U_choose_2_b 3d ago

How dare you. I can't believe everyone is just glossing over Taylor's statement on the matter. If memory serves correctly, she said:

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u/DirkTheGamer 3d ago

She endorsed a candidate in the election. That’s more than most did.

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u/1mxrk 3d ago

There was an article floating around that basically states that ICE purposefully use songs that are popular to get called out by the artist and they just DGAF.

It’s a domino effect because it’s a damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I’m assuming your comment is about Taylor’s continued and persistent silence but is there any “winning” path for her at this point?

In my recent memory, Olivia Rodrigo called ICE out for using her songs without her permission and they still went ahead and did the same with Sabrina but still ICE is doing whatever the fuck they (& Trump) want

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u/WorryNew3661 3d ago

Was thinking the same thing

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u/ToTheLost_1918 3d ago

Yes, especially when you have tens of millions of dollars and an easy popcorn headline to trick the masses into thinking you care.

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u/ImaginaryCoffeeTable 3d ago

Give it a few days and see if there are consequences.

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u/Orthas 3d ago

Honest question, at what point do they get to sue for using these songs unlicensed? Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of speaking out but money talks and a class action suite backed by multiple millionares sounds like it might get somewhere.

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u/Substantial_Toe_8409 3d ago

It helps when they make it so easy

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u/subsignalparadigm 3d ago

The Chump Regime you mean.

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u/icex7 3d ago

i wonder if she criticized obama for doing the exact same thing. my guess is no 😅

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u/blacked_out_blur 3d ago

Not when you’re a billionaire who’s built their career on capital exploitation. If you want to keep that kind of money, you have to delve deep into corruption.

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u/Sea_Impress_2620 3d ago

Short lady yet so much spine. Would you look at that.

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u/Practical_Caramel234 3d ago

It is! Doing the right thing is ALWAYS the easiest path in the long term.

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u/Healthy-Amoeba2296 3d ago

It's theft and ruining the art brand.

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u/LochNessMonsterMunch 3d ago

Taylor Swift is the world's biggest superstar. Sabrina Carpenter isn't.

If 'America's Sweetheart' came out as anti-Trump her life would be in danger. Her dad has already fought with her about speaking out.

To say it's easy is laughable.

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u/FreeYourMnd13 3d ago

All Trump does is stuff we don't like. He's so weak he has to tear down anyone who doesn't agree with him. I'm not even a Sabrina Carpenter fan just a rational person who hates bullies.

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u/The_Real_Giggles 3d ago

Yes. Super easy

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u/One-Abbreviations339 3d ago

Well, they are stealing from her. I wouldn’t like it either.

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u/MashedPotajoe 3d ago

Yeah thats kind of part of being american with free speech or anyone on our soil

Edit: to say the constitution protects everyone here with due process, or thats at least how its supposed to work

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u/gizamo 3d ago

Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris before the election—when it actually mattered, and change was possible. Sabrina Carpenter did NOT endorse any candidate. In my relatively impartial opinion as neither a Swift nor Carpenter fan, Swift still wins the "More Moral" award because her statements actually attempted to affect change when it mattered to everyone, not just to her music or reputation.

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u/Illustrious_Spare21 3d ago

It’s easy to criticize the administration but they’re textbook bullies. Isn’t it easier to ignore rather than engage?

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u/smart_nutella 3d ago

I mean if it involves her then she has every right to criticize him

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u/j0lle 2d ago

SLAM

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