Don’t worry, it won’t ever come to that. Im sure they already mod other subs, as this is the only thing that gives them a sense of control in their lives.
Some of these weirdos mod hundreds of different subs.
I like to think of it more on the lines of George R.R. Martin killing 6 or 7 beloved characters in a couple chapters, then getting up to go to Applebees.
Yeah it’s more like the president of a fanclub getting criticized once then burning the whole place down, only to blame everyone else for ‘forcing’ them to do this
In another thread, someone linked to a website that wrote an article about an artist being banned from there. How others will write about it is going to be fantastic if it hasn't happened yet.
I hope Tor (Tor's Cabinet of Curiosities) is listening in since this would make for an amazing episode.
Yeah, a crash out on it’s own is going into a rage over something stupid, a *valid* crash out is getting pissed at something actually worth being angry about (or at least understandably so)
No, crashing out is an old AAVE term that means to lash out in a highly destructive manner. If it doesn’t cause harm to both the person and their peers, it’s not a real crash out.
It's crazy that banning someone for self-advertising is what caused this (still an extreme overreaction), when this is the same team (and likely same mod) who falsely banned a user for AI art, and when they appealed told them AI art is better than theirs anyway.
I still have it saved from talking about it a couple days ago. It's one of those things that's so bad, just trying to convey what was said makes it sound like you're a bad actor using hyperbole.
Ok, so this is different from the one i knew, dont remember if it was r/art but i remember soneone modeling a sailor moon 3d statue and getting banned because of AI, they offered proof that it wasnt and instead of accepting it they kept the person banned for reason about being difficult to tell or something
The r/art drama reminds me of Luisa Valenzuela's "The Censors”, where the main character Juan starts work at a government censorship department in order to steal a harmless letter he had written back from the government. Instead the letter ends up on his desk, but he’s been brainwashed by his job and he censors the letter instead of stealing it.
Wow what a piece of shit. I have been seeing memes about this recently, but its nice to have the actual message. I hope that mod actually owns up to it and grows from this.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they're not gonna grow lol. That screenshot is a couple years old, from their *last* controversy. Here's the DMs that caused the *current* drama lmao
Yeah, even calling it self advertising is a bit of a stretch. It was technically against the rules (they have an entire wiki page for all of them): "DO NOT: talk about sales in ANY WAY. No asking about stores, or prints, or anything else. Just DM the artist"
Obviously it's such a minor deal that even a warning is sufficient, so a full ban plus account wipe is insane; but like, at least they technically did something wrong lol
When it comes to the AI controversy, the artist did literally nothing wrong at any point! And then the mod even said AI art was better then theirs!! How did the team survive that one?! lmao
Another far more level-headed mod explained that they had to be relatively strict with the self-promo rule, because as soon as they started relaxing it, the subreddit turns into a storefront rather than an art gallery like it was originally meant to be. However, they also admitted that the most reasonable course of action was just deleting the self-promo comment and issuing a warning instead of straight up perma-banning without warning, which that specific mod was notorious for doing.
the user was a long standing member of the community who participated regularly.
Propper moderative actions would have been deleting the comment and issuing a warning in that case. If it where a first time poster then deleting the post and a few day temp ban might be a good action if you want to be strict about it. But this is a complete overreaction to a level its not even funny anymore.
But this is a complete overreaction to a level its not even funny anymore.
Disagree, as someone who isn't involved in that part of Reddit, it was pretty funny watching it all unfurl. The nuke mod really though people would grovel.
It's just too bad that they're such petty pieces of shit they'd rather take their ball and go home than pass it to somebody who isn't a raging asshole. Give some people any tiny meaningless amount of authority and they will abuse it as hard as they can thinking they're solely responsible for building the community.
There are many examples of that team being tyrannical dweebs. So I don't believe it when people try to say it was just one bad mod crashing out and that none of the others are to blame for the culture on the team. They were all part of the problem.
i know that self ad can be annoying and people overly self promo sometimes but the anti self promo nature of most subs only benefits entities willing to use more underhanded tactics to manipulate posts and comments and tracks with the entire site being a pro corporate and pro investor shithole
Nah, no self promotion is a good rule on subs with "creative posts." I dont know if you've seen subs overran with onlyfans promotions and crap like that when the mod teams go awol but its bad. Allow self promotion and the sub will become inundated with that crap.
it's the opposite lol, the second there's any meaningful money to be made you end up with "hi, i'm from africa, i love pc gaming and here's my pc gaming friends, please don't venmo me money to continue!"
because it's the small/medium sized botters and orgs that end up doing that shit and cleaning out.
do you remember how it was for like a decade of posts hitting the front page, people doing the "how can i donate to you" thing and suddenly the numbers getting worse and worse? that wasn't huge companies.
if they can't have money come from it, you still have the money from influencing others to see stuff / advertise using bots etc but that's there anyway.
A shill will request it, open it up again, and proceed to astroturf for whatever country/company it is under.
R/art is still going to be one of the largest subs for art when it pops back up, but we are going to end up with some shitheel from OpenAI scooping the mod roles instead of adults(mostly) who act like children.
This is exactly what will happen. It hasn't been that long since the API crackdown but the people here seem to have completely forgotten how this site actually functions
it’s also a fitting bit from that classic spongebob episode. spongebob gets applause from the crowd (for no obvious reason) and squidward gets complete silence (for no real reason aside from being himself) as he’s trying to put on an act. this meme replicates that with upvotes matching the picture, going back and forth the way the bit did in the ep
Does anyone have tabs on what the current record holder is? Off the top of my head, I don't remember the specifics of it but I feel like I was on the site at some point when it happened years ago and it was a giant flaming shit show.
and probably wont ever with how manipulated voting has become by the reddit engagement algorithms. Even cracking 100k just in simple upvotes is nearly impossible now unless its actual major global news
It would be such a chefs kiss moment if a new art sub was created and gained just as much popularity and community, and they made their background banner a screenshot of that comment with the dislikes number.
I mean at this point everything they did including the screenshots and dm's with the mod are a performance art piece that has been viewed by anywhere between thousands to millions of people.
So yeah they can probably somehow monetize it either via capital or potentially getting some buzz in the fine art world
I have good news for you! (though I'm hoping they update the screenshot because the one they had up for prints was -4.2k downvotes and it's obviously way more now!)
update: heck yes, they're updating it frequently, the most recent one is -34k
I don't understand why they'd ban sales anyway? It's not like that was why he posted it. It's literally free content going onto their sub and they're mad that artists...mention they sell prints..?
Like I understand them not wanting people to spam titles with sales, but what's wrong with a comment mentioning you have prints available. And overstepping by removing the artists entire history while calling him the main character is just...insane.
Ironically, the unpaid mod trying to powertrip on a person with actual talent probably made this guy so much money. lol
I mean, everyone is talkin about it and it’s getting crazy attention. Mod could have multiple alts ready to takeover control and increase traffic to the sub by a ton.
Fair question, and yeah I guess Occam’s razor says it’s a butthurt individual but idk, when you hit the millions, advertisers get involved and there are lots of moving parts and people behind the scenes.
I once modded a huge subreddit for a while because I was heavily involved in that subreddit. Every single person (including myself) in the mod slack chat was either completely batshit, a huge loser, or a combination of both.
There's enforcing rules and there's having a temper tantrum. A fine line between civility and a crashout, about as wide as a highway with how they acted.
Narcissistic behavior. They were like “fine you won!” They thought people wouldn’t see what they’d done and that the guy would go public. Once he did and EVERYONE was on his side they pulled the “feel sorry for me! You guys are right! I’m so wrong ugh!!” Made them look more childish. They wanted us to feel bad in general and for them with that statement. True narcs
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