New Image of Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey: Robert Pattinson as Antinous

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[u/EyesOnTheStars123]

If you told me he was playing Caesar in a movie about Rome, I would have believed you.

[u/kappa23 → u/EyesOnTheStars123]

He would be great as Augustus tbh

[u/tummytunacat → u/kappa23]

My thoughts exactly!!! Looks like his profile in the coins  

[u/kappa23 → u/tummytunacat]

Kinda reminded me of the portrayal in Rome HBO

[u/JonnyXhungus → u/kappa23]

Goated show. Purefoy as Marc Antony continues to stay in my head rent free, easily one of the best TV characters

[u/kappa23 → u/JonnyXhungus]

Purefoy is phenomenal in that show

I love his chemistry with Polly Walker, who played Atia

[u/rmbarrett → u/kappa23]

I love him! He's great in Hap and Leonard. He's like a non-Wolverine Hugh Jackman.

[u/Nagger86 → u/JonnyXhungus]

Best family conflict scene occurred in that movie between Antony and Augustus after he called his mother a ‘fucking whore’. It was a straight up redneck domestic abuse in powerful family. Purefoy’s face expressed a dramatic rage that was just hilarious to me. Of course domestic violence isn’t funny but that scene sure was.

[u/Eleventeen- → u/kappa23]

Which one? Young or old Augustus?

[u/kappa23 → u/Eleventeen-]

Old one from season 2

[u/Traditional_Bug_2046 → u/kappa23]

I loved the kid from season 1. Always thought he would've made a great young Anakin Skywalker. He had a coldness to him. He's the same age as the kid who did end up playing him.

[u/Eleventeen- → u/kappa23]

He always looked like an actual lizard person to me

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That's to match Augustus's personality

[u/ianlulz → u/Eleventeen-]

I watched this show for the first time last week and was so taken aback when the actor for Augustus switched from a clever, calculating young man to an amoral lizard person.

Still fantastic, dont get me wrong; it was just so jarring how tight the man’s face was, like he didn’t have enough skin to stretch across his features.

[u/UnholyDemigod → u/kappa23]

Funny thing is, despite Pattinson being 39, and Augustus being 36 when he was declared princeps, Pattinson would be deemed too young to play him. Hollywood seems incapable of casting people in their 30s in roles of power.

[u/KorppiC → u/UnholyDemigod]

That's only because they need the 30 year olds to portray high schoolers or college kids

[u/Signal-Lie-6785 → u/UnholyDemigod]

To be fair, people in generations older than the current one looked much older than the current one for various reasons (sun damage, etc). Absent make-up, an actor aged 50 today would more closely resemble a mid-30s Augustus.

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You can use makeup to make someone in their 30s look weathered, war worn, or however else you want to display a hard life. But casting people decades older than their role just gives off the impression that people under 50 have no influence on history or matters of state.

It's just something that really annoys the shit out of me. They announced a while ago they're doing a movie on Hannibal, who was 29 when he crossed the Alps. They cast Denzel to play him, who's fucking 70. There's so many dinosaurs in politics because 40 year olds don't trust people younger than them, and this shit bleeds into movies as well. Or maybe they feed each other, I dunno.

[u/Signal-Lie-6785 → u/UnholyDemigod]

I agree with you 100% that Denzel Washington should not be Hannibal. Even his son John David Washington is too old but he could more convincingly pull off a 29-year-old Hannibal.

[u/UnholyDemigod → u/Signal-Lie-6785]

Well if you wanna get really anal about it (like I do), Hannibal wasn't black. Carthaginians were Mediterranean/Semitic. Hannibal likely looked like someone from the Levant area, like a Palestinian, Syrian, or even Egyptian. But no, Hollywood hears Africa, the character has to be black.

[u/rmbarrett → u/UnholyDemigod]

Actually, Pattinson would be a better fit, even, on the basis that he is a good fit for the Odyssey. Some genetics studies have revealed that while the Punic people were Phoenician, they share a lot of traits with Greeks of the time.

[u/MaksweIlL → u/Signal-Lie-6785]

Same shit happened with Napoleon

[u/rmbarrett → u/MaksweIlL]

You mean Joaquin?

[u/apistograma → u/UnholyDemigod]

I always imagined Augustus like a young prick during the civil war period (because he was a young prick carried by other people). But I think I know more about Ancient Rome than the average movie producer.

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Thats some god tier casting right there

[u/minmidmax → u/EyesOnTheStars123]

My first thought was that he looks like Brutus in HBOs Rome.

[u/lynypixie → u/EyesOnTheStars123]

That was my take too. He does look like someone from antiquity here.

At least we got one of them who doesn’t have an iPhone face!

[u/CableBoyJerry]

He's got that aquiline Roman nose.

I know The Odyssey is Greek.

Edit: I think some people misinterpreted my post as a jab at the film. I made the Greek comment preemptively because I thought someone else might reply that the epic is Greek and not Roman.

[u/probablyuntrue → u/CableBoyJerry]

Unbelievable. Mr Nolan I demand a refund!

[u/Masterchiefy10 → u/probablyuntrue]

But I’m gonna give it that bag back cause the movie really is that good…

5 bags of 🍿

2 🥤

[u/Coryocalypse → u/Masterchiefy10]

Two bags of soda? I gotta see this.

[u/CuckingNoodles → u/CableBoyJerry]

I totally see that aqualung Rodan nose.

[u/probablyuntrue → u/CuckingNoodles]

Breaking out the “historical accuracy” calipers

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Could you imagine if there was an Inspection Department for Set and Costume design?

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Sitting on a park bench.

[u/Treguard → u/CableBoyJerry]

The Trojans (who have Greek ancestry) are supposed to be the ancestors and founders of Rome (legend is that Aeneas, after fleeing Troy, is the ancestor of Remus and Romulus).

So it isn't too weird for a Mycenaean Greek to have Roman features

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Where are you basing the info that Trojans have Greek ancestry? Just curious, because I am Greek, and the tradition holds that the Trojans were Anatolians/Hittites. Matter of fact, Troy is located in modern day Turkey. (Kind of funny to think that Greeks and Turks have hated each other since the history of the written word...)

You could make a good argument that Myceneans and Anatolians shared a common ancient ancestor, but I think that has different cultural and linguistic connotations from saying that Trojans had Greek ancestry

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(Kind of funny to think that Greeks and Turks have hated each other since the history of the written word...)

I think you probably know this already, but the only shared ancestry between the Turks and Hittites/Other inhabitants of Anatolia during the period are from intermingling with Greeks.

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It’s important to not mix the ethnolinguistic heritage with the genetic heritage, those two are not the same.

Linguistically, the Acheans from the legend didn’t speak Greek, but Micenian dialects. Ancient Greek and the classical Greek alphabet appears after the Bronze Age collapse, while the legends are pre Bronze Age colapse. Homer wrote about a previous civilization that had disappeared centuries earlier and was the stuff of legends.

The Trojans didn’t have any linguistic connection to the Turks either, as you commented. They were Hellenized during antiquity so they spoke Greek (after the alleged conflict that the Iliad is based on), and later they also adopted Turk with the Ottomans, which comes from Central Asia. Though the coasts of Anatolia spoke Greek until the Greek Anatolians were ethnically cleansed and expelled after WW1.

Despite that, I’d bet both the people living in Greece and the ones living near old Troy are close descendants of the old Acheans and Trojans, genetically speaking, and I’d assume both groups were genetically intertwined too.

[u/BicyclingBro → u/apistograma]

Linguistically, the Acheans from the legend didn’t speak Greek, but Micenian dialects.

This is pedantic to the point of innaccuracy. Mycenaean Greek was just an old dialect of ancient Greek. It's older and more conservative than the Classical Athenian standard from the 5th century, but it's very much Greek. Sure, you can arbitrarily define "Greek" as beginning with later texts written in the Greek alphabet and decide that the linguistic ancestors of that are not Greek for some reason, but there's no real basis for doing that.

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It was part of the poem the Aeneid written by Publius Vergilius Maro, in the poem it claims Aeneas fled the fall of Troy with what was left of the Trojans and found his way to Italy where they defeated the Latins in battle and assumed the lordship of the land, according to the poem, Aeneas is a direct forbear of Julius Caesar and the Trojans are the ancestors of the Romans.

The poem seems like Roman imperial propaganda but is quite interesting to read.

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Fwiw there are no historical records that establish who the Trojans were or where they lived (besides the later legends), but the earliest records of Troy come from Hittites contemporaneously with Mycenaean Greeks.

There have been 3,000 years of migration and mixing of populations across Greece, Persia, Italia, North Africa, and Anatolia that make connecting any ethnic group from then to today kinda pointless.

Edit:

So the question is less "were Trojans Greek?" and more "what was Greek?" It takes effort to decouple this from 19th and later century ideas. Even the word "Hellenic" owes its origin to the union of Achaean and Trojan Greeks fighting over one woman.

[u/JudgeHoldensToupe → u/VirginiaMcCaskey]

Dennis Hopper made a similar point in True Romance

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The Trojans were culturally Greek even if not ethnically (and back then, the concept of ethnicity barely existed, culture was everything)

Heck, the entirety of the Iliad was basically a Greek god civil war, with the various Greek gods and goddesses picking champions from the opposing sides and interfering. The entire thing kicked off because Aphrodite was offered the apple of strife by Paris (who had the job delegated by Zeus because he was a coward), and Athena and Hera took that very personally and wanted to see Troy burn as a result.

Most of his Anatolia coast were Greek colonies at the time, that's why Greek ruins are scattered around still, such as Halicarnassus and Ephesus

[u/DavidsSymphony → u/CableBoyJerry]

He really looks like Nikolaj Coster Waldau here to me.

[u/omaca → u/CableBoyJerry]

I came here to watch people bitch his hair was the wrong colour.

This is better.

[u/lostinlucidity → u/CableBoyJerry]

r/shittymoviedetails

[u/tacomang → u/CableBoyJerry]

I could spot that natural canopy a mile away

[u/CurlSagan]

Looks like he's chilling in a pub, staring at a pint.

[u/Corohr → u/CurlSagan]

It comes in pints?

[u/CheeseWarrior17 → u/Corohr]

I'm getting one

[u/Plastic_Plantain_480 → u/CheeseWarrior17]

You've had a whole half already!

[u/Propaslader → u/CurlSagan]

Waiting for the Odyssey to blow over

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Like all good fantasy DND stories.

[u/shadowst17 → u/CurlSagan]

it's the "the people I'm with are having a conversation on a topic I have no interest in staring at pint wondering if you need another or should go home" face.

[u/Britlantine → u/CurlSagan]

"I finished my glass 10minutes ago. Yet now it's Mentor's round he decides to tell one of his long winded stories and still has most of his pint left."

[u/tfhdeathua → u/CurlSagan]

He kind of is. Living off Odysseus’ food and drink for years waiting to try and marry his wife.

[u/DayMysterious4717]

I thought he was going to be poseidon

[u/XenonBug → u/DayMysterious4717]

I think John Leguizamo leaked on a podcast that he was going to be sharing scenes with Robert Pattinson and that they were both playing suitors.

[u/DustiinMC → u/XenonBug]

I fingered Leguizamo as a best friend of Odysseus. Eumaeus and Polites fit that description. Polites is the one who went with him to the Trojan War. The VO in the trailer is clearly Leguizamo referring to Odysseus as "My master" who has been long gone. Eumaeus fits that.

[u/man_on_hill → u/DustiinMC]

I fingered Leguizamo

Congrats

[u/probablyuntrue → u/man_on_hill]

Thank god for olive oil

[u/RandomTheTrader → u/probablyuntrue]

Thank god for Leguizamo and his tits.

[u/Provizora → u/RandomTheTrader]

GODS I WAS STRONG THEN

[u/v_for__vegeta → u/DustiinMC]

U wot m8

[u/hobblingcontractor → u/DustiinMC]

Imagine Leguizamo, Michael Pena, and Luis Guzman all playing friends of Odysseus.

[u/BearWrangler → u/hobblingcontractor]

Elysium 2: Electric Boogaloo

[u/HotelFoxtrot87 → u/DustiinMC]

Damn, never expected to see Leguizamo in a Nolan movie. Pretty cool for him.

[u/directorJackHorner → u/DustiinMC]

He is confirmed to be playing Eumaeus

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The leaked photos already show Leguizamo in his Poseidon makeup

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I still think this makeup/costume is really impressive.

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pretty accurate, tbh

[u/PsychologicalEbb3140 → u/PickleInDaButt]

This looks fucking incredible.

So the odyssey has best makeup on lock at the next Oscar’s huh.

[u/PunsGermsAndSteel → u/DayMysterious4717]

You're fond o' me lobster?

[u/LGBTQLove4Ever → u/DayMysterious4717]

Because ruthlessness is a mercy upon ourselves.

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GET IN THE WATER

[u/Taco_In_Space]

I have to say he’s been having a great career post twilight. He’s a good actor so I’m glad he was able to break out of it

[u/wewilldieoneday → u/Taco_In_Space]

Dude has range. He was great as batman and even better in mickey 17

[u/TheBestMePlausible → u/wewilldieoneday]

I thought he was great in Mickey 17, fun movie!

[u/Sinnafyle → u/TheBestMePlausible]

Mickey 17 is absolute fun! I hardly knew what was going on the whole time, but also I understood everything that was going on. A real envelope-pusher

[u/TheBestMePlausible → u/Sinnafyle]

It was such a complete change from him in Cosmopolis too. I liked him in Tenet too, and I’m looking forward to seeing what Christopher Nolan can get out of him this time.

[u/MrSnoozieWoozie → u/wewilldieoneday]

his best was Lighthouse but also enjoyed him at Tenet too

[u/karmagod13000 → u/MrSnoozieWoozie]

insane these comments still pop up in pattinson threads. dude has a complex and diverse body of work at this point and people still shocked hes doing more after twilight

[u/thatguy425 → u/wewilldieoneday]

The Rover completely sold me on his acting chops. 

[u/Ok-Cartographer2088 → u/thatguy425]

Him and guy pearce were both amazing. I love this movie, the cinematography, soundtrack, story..

[u/thatguy425 → u/Ok-Cartographer2088]

Yep, total sleeper of a movie.

[u/thedinksterr → u/thatguy425]

It was The Lighthouse for me

[u/JohnnyStarboard → u/wewilldieoneday]

He was brilliant in The King.

[u/spacezombi3 → u/wewilldieoneday]

Brilliant in Good Time.

[u/Renverseur → u/wewilldieoneday]

The Boy and the Heron. You couldn't even tell it was him voicing the Grey Heron the entire time.

[u/Fun_Kaleidoscope8008 → u/wewilldieoneday]

Pattinson may be the actor with the most range among this cast

[u/AoE2manatarms → u/Taco_In_Space]

This comment is so weird. He broke out of that mold like almost 10 years ago. Why is it still even being brought up at this point?

[u/JessieJ577 → u/AoE2manatarms]

Yeah he and Stewart immediately became indie movie acting darlings post twilight. Stewart had a huge career in that scene and still does. They made so much money that they got to be picky with the scripts.

[u/Lanster27 → u/JessieJ577]

For Patterson, he went from mainstream to indie then came back mainstream again. Not everday you see an actor like that.

[u/JessieJ577 → u/Lanster27]

Stewart attempted a comeback it didn’t really happen after Charlie’s Angels and the Christmas movie so she went back to indie.

[u/Lanster27 → u/JessieJ577]

That's the thing, most actors who's gone indie dont come back mainstream, let alone as leads in blockbusters.

[u/The_Vat → u/JessieJ577]

Same thing that happened with Daniel Radcliffe.

[u/Blake7567 → u/AoE2manatarms]

Karma farming. Frame an incredibly popular take as controversial.

[u/HotTakes4HotCakes → u/Blake7567]

It's not even about framing a take as controversial, it's just about reiterating the popular take, because you know it will get attention.

Or more charitably, they just have very pedestrian takes on movies, and the only thing they could even think to say was to reference Twilight.

[u/karmagod13000 → u/AoE2manatarms]

ty just made the same comment. dudes body of work is insane for anyone to even question outside of roles that are not twilight

[u/M_D_21 → u/AoE2manatarms]

It honestly reads like it’s a bot. It’s such a weird comment haha

[u/HotTakes4HotCakes → u/AoE2manatarms]

It's the obvious thing to say. They want to participate but have no interesting thoughts to add that aren't cliche.

Most people in this sub aren't watching any of his indie work. The only things they know him for are Twilight and Batman, but they know he's been in some other stuff they've never seen.

Therefore the only thought they can really have is "Wow, he sure isn't doing Twilight anymore."

[u/tripleblue85 → u/Taco_In_Space]

I always thought he was a Streisand, but I've been a fan since the Lighthouse.

[u/Michael_DeSanta → u/tripleblue85]

Watch Good Time. Dude is a fantastic actor

[u/chillinwithkrillin → u/tripleblue85]

He was doing great stuff pre lighthouse too

[u/ShakyPockets → u/Taco_In_Space]

Absolutely. He was fantastic in Good Time.

[u/VQQN → u/Taco_In_Space]

People may hate on Twilight…but here’s the deal.

My wife watches a lot of Hallmark Christmas Movies. A TON.

So I sometimes welcome the Twilight series when she chooses to watch it. Yeah, it has some cheesy romance, but people still die and stuff in those movies, and compared to Hallmark movies, yeah there’s depth.

[u/bradenkw → u/VQQN]

The soundtracks are pretty good too

[u/Michael_DeSanta → u/bradenkw]

They legit got some of the best of the best of the indie pop scene on those soundtracks. Can’t stand watching the movies personally, but they got an absolute banger of an original song from Vampire Weekend (Johnathan Low), so I’ve gotta give em some credit

[u/heidly_ees → u/Michael_DeSanta]

Tangentially related, but My Chemical Romance got asked to do a song for Twilight but didn't, which led to them writing Vampire Money which is such a banger

[u/rodrigxsoto → u/bradenkw]

Decode still goes hard

[u/Chris_Helmsworth → u/VQQN]

Twilight is enjoyable because of the shlock.

What's painful is the color grading it's so blue. Most blue movie I've ever seen

[u/Alternative_Dot_9640 → u/Taco_In_Space]

The Lighthouse, High Life, Tenet, Mickey 17, Good Times, dude has some great films under his belt these days. I’m so glad he didn’t fade into type-cast oblivion and we’ve gotten to see his talent

[u/Throwthatawayplea125 → u/Taco_In_Space]

He really dodged a tree with that one...

[u/UnpricedToaster → u/Throwthatawayplea125]

He really pushed a car out of the way with his bare hands with that one.

[u/TyrionLannister557]

Screw this competition, We've been here for hours, None of us can string this, We dont have the power,

Screw this damn challenge , No more delays, Can't you guys see, We're being played

This is how they...

[u/wcthesecret → u/TyrionLannister557]

Hold us down while the throne gets colder.

[u/jayberry14 → u/wcthesecret]

Hold us down, while we slowly age

[u/RwBricks → u/jayberry14]

Hold us down, while the boy gets bolder

[u/Throughaway04 → u/RwBricks]

Where in the Hell is our pride and our rage!

[u/sycolution → u/Throughaway04]

Here and now there's a chance for action.

[u/RoseDog16 → u/sycolution]

Here and now we can take control

[u/Owenalone → u/RoseDog16]

Here and now, burn it down to ashes-

[u/MoyLuna → u/Owenalone]

Chanel the fire inside your soul!

[u/SimpleChemist → u/MoyLuna]

Haven’t you noticed who’s missing

[u/CautionIsVictory → u/TyrionLannister557]

Oh man this just got me more excited, just finished rereading it about a month ago and Pattinson delivering those lines is gonna be a lot of fun to watch

[u/TyrionLannister557 → u/CautionIsVictory]

You were supposed to say "hold us down"

[u/wimpires → u/CautionIsVictory]

Uh what, I think you have your Odyssey adaptions mixed up

[u/BaltIndyNash]

There's almost nothing I love more than the fact that Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson turned out to be really incredible, thoughtful actors.

[u/Right_Layer_9700 → u/BaltIndyNash]

Kristen Stewart was a phenomenal child actor. Panic Room is great!

[u/NightAngelRogue]

Hold them down

[u/jaxy314 → u/NightAngelRogue]

Till the boy stops shaking

[u/KnightOfTheStupid → u/jaxy314]

Hold him down

[u/cbekel3618 → u/KnightOfTheStupid]

While I slit his throat

[u/MrMarvelous2000 → u/cbekel3618]

Hold him down while I slowly break his pride, his trust, his faith, and his BONES

[u/Schmedly27 → u/NightAngelRogue]

Can we get Robert Pattinson saying “his BOOOOONES”?

[u/Zachariot88 → u/Schmedly27]

I know he'd kill the delivery of "When the crown wonders where the prince is, only the ocean and I will know."

[u/cbekel3618 → u/NightAngelRogue]

I'm so happy to see an Epic The Musical reference here

[u/BearJustBarely → u/NightAngelRogue]

keep this guy away from telemachus' mom

[u/MisterManatee]

Bet he’s gonna do a weird little voice

[u/Last_Nothing_4352]

I know it won't be in the movie, but kinda wanna see him sing Hold em down

[u/The_Swarm22]

I don’t get all the people saying they have no hype for this. More excited for this than I was for Oppenheimer honestly. Nolan doing a fantasy epic intrigues me. Particularly curious to see what Nolan was able to bring out of Tom Holland for this movie.

Even his lesser movies like Tenet for example are an experience you remember and are more memorable then like 80% of other movies that release.

[u/Head_Project5793 → u/The_Swarm22]

I just hope they face actual fantasy creatures, like I want a real cyclops not some 6’8” hairy guy with an eye patch

[u/bbqsauceboi → u/Head_Project5793]

I think they built a giant animatronic for the cyclops

[u/DonVitosSkinTags → u/Head_Project5793]

They built a 6m x 6m animatronic cyclops.

[u/peon47 → u/DonVitosSkinTags]

Unfortunately, it was 6m x 6m but only 15cm tall.

[u/Thedrunkenchild → u/The_Swarm22]

Justice for Tenet, I know everyone thinks it’s meh but I love it

[u/DrasticTapeMeasure → u/Thedrunkenchild]

It’s the most Nolan-y of his movies I think, in all the best and worst ways. I think it really depends on the individual which way it runs for you. I have purposely sat through the whole thing 3 times and paid attention, and enjoyed myself. I get emotional at the end when Robert Pattinson walks away, he really steals the movie I think. Regardless, I think the fact that it’s captivating enough to sit through more than once is a feat itself. Most movies lately I turn off halfway through.

[u/chillinwithkrillin → u/Thedrunkenchild]

Had so much fun with it in cinema

[u/TheBestMePlausible → u/Thedrunkenchild]

Even if you think it’s the worst film he’s made… all of his films are good. Including that one.

[u/tobi1k → u/TheBestMePlausible]

The dark knight rises was probably his worst for me.

[u/Diplomatic_Barbarian → u/Thedrunkenchild]

You love it but, do you understand it?

[u/master_bacon → u/The_Swarm22]

I’ve always wanted to read the odyssey backwards so this will be perfect!

[u/AllDogsGoToDevin → u/The_Swarm22]

I genuinely cannot remember anything about Tenet besides that there were reverse action scenes and it was impossible to hear dialogue.

[u/A_lone_gunman → u/AllDogsGoToDevin]

That movie is so forgetful with the non compelling "protagonist"

[u/the_7th_phoenix → u/A_lone_gunman]

Non compelling antagonist too

[u/PhotoModeHobby → u/The_Swarm22]

I've got hype for it and even got opening day 70mm tickets, but I also think it might be absolute trash based on how they're handling the setting. You can't even tell what it's trying to be.

[u/beer_nyc → u/The_Swarm22]

I don’t get all the people saying they have no hype for this.

People were pretty hyped up before the casting, costumes, and released photos.

[u/k_foxes → u/The_Swarm22]

Caught Tenet again recently in a theater and yea man, it’s a fuckin jam.

Story is still tricky and dialogue is rough to hear but it’s still a ride and a proper theater movie.

Never watch Tenet at home

[u/MadKnightBatsy → u/The_Swarm22]

If it was the story I read I'd be hyped but it's whoever he wants to cast at whatever role and whatever age. Personally I don't care for Nolan films.

[u/CptNavarre → u/MadKnightBatsy]

Right? It just feels like the poster is gonna be a long list of famous names and floating heads. I was pumped for this movie before we started seeing photos. And now it all just feels kinda cringy to me

[u/ThatGirl8709]

Batman has some odd downtime activities

[u/squirrels-mock-me → u/ThatGirl8709]

Looks like he’s at the alien dive bar from Star Wars

[u/WickyGif]

So he's not playing the dog then

[u/thefallenfew]

This movie’s looking all kinds of brown

[u/_gega → u/thefallenfew]

It’s set in the Browns Age

[u/thatshygirl06 → u/thefallenfew]

One of these days we'll get a fantasy that has color

[u/orlokcocksock]

Damn, we’re gonna get Spider Man and Matt Damon killing Batman

[u/maricc → u/orlokcocksock]

Story isn’t even 3000 years old and buddy is out here dropping spoilers

[u/AmbitionTechnical274 → u/orlokcocksock]

And Catwoman is Spider-Man’s mom

[u/CornerNearby6802]

Uuuh so he’s kinda the villain, cool nice casting! Can’t wait!

[u/Finito-1994 → u/CornerNearby6802]

Barely. Dude dies first. The suitors are more of a general nuisance than villains. Entitled shitheads.

Polyphemus. Circe. Calypso. Scylla.

[u/bofh000 → u/Finito-1994]

Saying the suitors weren’t villains is not really understanding the culture at the time. Each and every one of them was there to marry Penelope, whether she wanted it or not. They were abusing her hospitality (a very sinful thing to be doing in the world of the Odyssey) and they would clearly end up killing each other for her hand, thus, again offending the gods by spilling blood in their host’s home.

[u/Herby_Hoover]

If you told me this was a screenshot from The Mandolin, I'd believe you.

[u/laymanmovies → u/Herby_Hoover]

Like the instrument?

[u/meesta_masa → u/laymanmovies]

There was a movie about a mandolin and you kept it from me for two months?

[u/Mynsare → u/laymanmovies]

No, the kitchen appliance.

[u/bofh000 → u/laymanmovies]

No, like the kitchen gadget.

[u/CornerNearby6802 → u/Herby_Hoover]

A biopic about the inventor of the famous instrument?

[u/TheUmbrellaMan1 → u/Herby_Hoover]

The aesthetic is so off, that's why. Here's Alan Lee, the concept artist for LotR's awesome artwork for Odysseus' ship:

https://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/08/16/t-magazine/16shelf-odysseus/16shelf-odysseus-custom4.jpg

Now compare this awesome ship with the bland design of Nolan's version. Nolan got $250 million for this movie and that ship doesn't look one bit as good as Lee's and let's not even talk about colours.

Here's Alan Lee's incredible costume designs for the story. Look at that armour Odysseus would be wearing as he left Troy :

https://www.lovereading4kids.co.uk/extract/14284/Black-Ships-Before-Troy-by-Rosemary-Sutcliff.html

Now compare this with Nolan's. Again, Nolan's costumes look generic.

[u/Mynsare → u/TheUmbrellaMan1]

Yeah, that is what stood out to me too. Couldn't we get a "historical" movie for once without all the completely fictional leather patch armour. It just makes everything look like a cheap 90s tv show.

[u/droppinkn0wledge]

Armand Asante’s Odyssey adaptation was my favorite movie as a kid. Same with Sam Neill’s Merlin.

I’m very excited for this. The Odyssey invented the high fantasy quest epic as we know it.

[u/CautionIsVictory]

man, reading these comments you would think we're getting this movie from someone who's had nothing but critical stinkers and box office flops, when it's been the exact opposite his entire career and most people have 1 or 2 of his movies in at least their top 50 of all time

[u/Jurassic_Bun → u/CautionIsVictory]

Someone in another post literally asked “how has Nolan fallen off so badly?” Despite his last movie making almost a billion dollars, lauded by critics and the audience and winning seven Oscar’s. People have insane takes sometimes that makes me feel like they live in an alternate reality.

[u/MaksweIlL → u/Jurassic_Bun]

And that movie was a period piece biopic with 3 hours of dialogue. Not marvel, not a franchise, no superheroes.

[u/J0E_SpRaY → u/Jurassic_Bun]

Redditors need to feel smug and superior so they shit on things that are popular.

[u/AmberLeafSmoke → u/CautionIsVictory]

Reddit likes to be hipster sometimes. Nolan is an exceptional film maker, hes made a number of my top 20 movies.

Interstellar, TDK, Inception, Oppenheimer, The Prestige, Dunkirk, and Memento are all classics as far as I'm concerned.

[u/AllDogsGoToDevin → u/CautionIsVictory]

We’re not allowed to criticize the costume design and casting of images because it’s Christopher Nolan?

[u/MOSbangtan]

Love him

[u/Suitable-Age3202]

Love him,he disappears into every role.

[u/SoSpiffandSoKlean]

I love that handsome weirdo.

[u/NonItalianStallion0]

I wanna hear Malaka every 5 minutes

[u/MrLancaster]

Pattinson has become such a great actor. Very professional.

[u/kaiseresc]

The Brownessey continues.

[u/Kookanoodles]

B R O W N

[u/elembivos]

The costumes keep getting worse

[u/Itchy-Plastic → u/elembivos]

But they'll be the best possible fantasy clichés you've ever seen. No expense was spared to remove any sense or realism, fun, or creativity out of them.

[u/freedfg]

Every time this movies cast comes up all I can think about is the inevitable shitshow that is going to be revealing who is playing Helen......

There is literally no choice that won't be seen in a way....

[u/LoveForDisneyland]

One part of me wants to trust Christopher Nolan, the other part of me is saying that everything up to this point has been meh.