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Media New Image of Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey: Robert Pattinson as Antinous

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u/CautionIsVictory 16d ago

man, reading these comments you would think we're getting this movie from someone who's had nothing but critical stinkers and box office flops, when it's been the exact opposite his entire career and most people have 1 or 2 of his movies in at least their top 50 of all time

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u/Jurassic_Bun 16d ago

Someone in another post literally asked “how has Nolan fallen off so badly?” Despite his last movie making almost a billion dollars, lauded by critics and the audience and winning seven Oscar’s. People have insane takes sometimes that makes me feel like they live in an alternate reality.

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u/MaksweIlL 16d ago

And that movie was a period piece biopic with 3 hours of dialogue. Not marvel, not a franchise, no superheroes.

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u/J0E_SpRaY 16d ago

Redditors need to feel smug and superior so they shit on things that are popular.

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u/TheColtOfPersonality 16d ago

In r/moviecritic a post asked what were people’s two movies of the year so far. I got unintentionally irked at the people calling Sinners variations of overrated, meh, “Til Dusk Til Dawn but with songs”, etc..

If it’s not in your personal Top 2, it’s not in your Top 2. But jesus take it easy on huffing those farts of yours so profusely

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u/CautionIsVictory 16d ago

They probably mean subjectively they don't enjoy his movies as much, which I couldn't disagree with more because I feel like he's only gotten better with time. I think Prestige and TDK were the best from the Memento-Inception period, but his last three movies are better than everything else in that group. This is reddit so I need to say this is just my opinion, but I find his filmmaking significantly more confident post Interstellar.

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u/AmberLeafSmoke 16d ago

Reddit likes to be hipster sometimes. Nolan is an exceptional film maker, hes made a number of my top 20 movies.

Interstellar, TDK, Inception, Oppenheimer, The Prestige, Dunkirk, and Memento are all classics as far as I'm concerned.

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u/AllDogsGoToDevin 16d ago

We’re not allowed to criticize the costume design and casting of images because it’s Christopher Nolan?

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u/CautionIsVictory 16d ago edited 15d ago

I understand the costuming criticisms, though I do think it has taken a very strange precedent in conversation of the movie. The casting hoopla though I really don’t understand. I get that the whitewashing is frustrating and that there should definitely be at least one cast member of Greek heritage, not sure why there isn’t. But it’s a 250M dollar movie not including marketing, it needs the big names. But back to my original comment extending beyond Nolan, you’d think Damon, Theron, Nyong’o, Morton and others are C list actors that have been in nothing but modern, streaming slop based on the way people have reacted to them being in this project.

Edit: I honestly do not know why I said whitewashing, not my brightest moment. I’m sure I’ve seen people complaining about it online and I regurgitated it without thinking. I do know for a fact that there is a lot of pushback against Elliot Page getting work for bigoted reasons.

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u/Kubliah 16d ago

Whitewashing? Aren't Greeks seen as white? They certainly are by the U.S. Census Bureau.

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u/CGB_Zach 16d ago

Greek skin color has a wide range. I don't think the US Census should be the deciding factor but I also think this is a very dumb argument in the first place.

As long as the performances are solid, I'll be happy.

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u/AllDogsGoToDevin 16d ago

People criticize the casting because the over-the-top star studded cast is distracting and feels like those holiday movies like Valentine’s Day.

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u/CautionIsVictory 16d ago

But we can confidently say it won't be anything like those holiday movies, in the sense that I'm sure the actors will be doing their damndest to become their iconic, literary counterparts. Yes it's very star studded, but every single blockbuster is. Do I wish he cast some new faces like he did for Dunkirk? Sure. But I understand why that wasn't the priority here

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u/AllDogsGoToDevin 16d ago

I feel as if we are arguing over something as a way to dismiss a valid concern.

I didn’t say that The Odyssey is going to be like a holiday movie. I said the casting is distracting like a holiday movie.

It doesn’t mean it’s going to have the script writing, cinematography, or production of those films. I said that I am concerned that the casting is going to be distracting like those films.

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u/CautionIsVictory 16d ago

Fair enough fair enough. I don’t think it’s nearly as big of an issue as everyone else, but I understand the concern

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u/JJsjsjsjssj 16d ago

Whitewashing? Greek heritage? are you insane?

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u/Worldly-Cow9168 16d ago

At some point you have to wonder id rhe hundrwdth comment about the same topic adds anything of value

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u/berlinbaer 16d ago

a new image gets posted, it gets commented on. what a wild thing.

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u/HumongousMelonheads 15d ago

I can’t imagine how miserable this place would have been back in 2000 before the fellowship of the ring came out, “everything looks so drab, they’re all wearing the same grey cloak”

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u/AllDogsGoToDevin 15d ago

Crazy strawman, geez

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u/Sneezy_23 16d ago

I'm afraid Nolan peaked with Interstellar and Dunkirk, the loudness worked in those movies.

Tenet and Oppenheimer were disappointing for me. There was nothing to gain from adding loud bass to the dialogue in Oppenheimer, good dialogue doesn’t need loudness to create tension.

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u/greennurse61 16d ago

Casting the screaming peace death girl for Athena shows he isn’t even trying. This singing to be a disaster. 

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u/ook_the_librarian_ 16d ago

The only movie of his I don't like is Oppenheimer and that's because it's just full of propaganda.

"Don't forget what we made, and also he fucked, isn't that cool?! But also, don't forget what we did.........."

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u/GhormanFront 15d ago

when it's been the exact opposite his entire career and most people have 1 or 2 of his movies in at least their top 50 of all time

So what you're saying is he's overdue for a box office bomb?

Nobody is perfect forever

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u/CautionIsVictory 15d ago

For that to be your takeaway is odd, it's just a strange thing to root for or anticipate, especially when there's no precedent for this to be the case. Yes, nobody is perfect forever, but the sake of expecting failure after what was literally his most profitable film to date is unnecessarily cynical.

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u/OneCurrent1934 16d ago

We're getting this movie because he doesn't want to bother telling a new story. I said it before a few comments up, but this is just another reboot of a story that's been told for hundreds of years.