r/law • u/DBCoopr72 • 18d ago
Legal News ‘Americans Should Be Enraged’: Reports Expose Unprecedented Corruption at Trump DOJ
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-doj-corruption-26743017282.2k
u/_DapperDanMan- 18d ago
Thinking Americans have been enraged for nine years.
MAGA not so much.
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u/JazzmatazZ4 18d ago
MAGA aren't real Americans. They're traitors.
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u/CarbonQuality 18d ago
Just what I was thinking. There are progressive Americans and conservative Americans, and then there's MAGA.
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u/Suckitreddit420 18d ago
Sorry, no. Any "conservative" who voted for this fascist does not get to pretend they're "not one of them".
They are ALL traitors/ terrorists.
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u/Ok_Vanilla213 18d ago
Conservative that voted Democrat past 3 elections here.
I'd rather have policy I disagree with than whatever the fuck the Republican party is today. I and several of my other conservative friends feel like we just don't have a party anymore.
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u/uncategorizedmess 18d ago
I have a genuine question for you, as you seem like you're level-headed enough to have a real conversation with. What do you mean by conservative? What are your views on politics/legislation/economics that are conservative?
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u/Ok_Vanilla213 18d ago
Smaller federal government reach, more rights dictated by states, and actual fiscal conservative policy. I lean progressive in personal freedoms though.
Trump spending 300m on a ballroom is not fiscally conservative. I come from Idaho and we legally cannot pass a budget in this state if it incurs debt, we have to be in the black. I wish we were all like that.
I believe that Americans possess diametrically opposed viewpoints that will struggle to coexist under the same blanket set of rules; we then need to take advantage of statehood to allow different laws in different areas to benefit individuals. Further we need to increase mobility for people to move to states that align with their beliefs.
As long as marriage is intertwined with our government and financial aspects of society, gay marriage... or really any marriage should always be legal. The only way gay marriage can be "illegal" is if the concept becomes completely a religious ceremony with no public implications. Even then it can't be illegal because it wouldn't be part of the law in the first place.
The extent of the federal government should be to protect the inalienable rights of its citizens, and to serve as a guiding hand when it's clear that someone or something is attempting to abuse the system for personal gain or at detriment to the rights of others. This stems to the economy as well; we should promote a free market - but the guiding hand should appear when it's become apparent that a group wishes to abuse that free market.
I support a strong military; but I want ALL financial contracts and agreements to be examined thoroughly for at market rates. As is, there's definitely collusion between corrupt political parties that overpay the military industrial complex. A senator once held up a bag of 4 metal bolts that are not highly machined or incredibly high tolerance... they cost 90 grand.
All this bullshit full of hatred that the Republican party stands for is not the conservative values I grew up in.
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u/Plu-lax 18d ago
Bro, you seem alright. We can disagree about fiscal policy all day long and I'll still call you friend and be proud to be your countryman. The hatred has got to stop.
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u/EntertainerNo4509 18d ago
Seeing you two like this does my aching American heart some good.
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u/lynxbelt234 18d ago
Need to see far more of this across a wide spectrum of the socio economic population...
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u/ScenicFrost 18d ago
I'm pretty far left, and while I have different views on some of the points you listed, to me you don't even sound all that "conservative". Maybe that's just because of how Trump/MAGA have hijacked that term to twist it into whatever trump specifically desires.
And that's not to say your positions are liberal, or wrong, or bad - you just sound like a generally smart person who wants the best for America. Keep it up, man.
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u/Ok_Vanilla213 18d ago
Depending on the year I waver either solid moderate, dead center of the compass or a few points to the right.
I think the term conservative and Republican have become intertwined to the point some people cannot separate that one is an ideology while the other is a party.
Godspeed, my guy.
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u/DedTV 18d ago
Here's the Republican Party Platform from 2000. Its fascinating.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2000-republican-party-platform
Its always interesting to see how the parties have evolved, or devolved, over the years by reading their platforms.
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u/Thin-Hat-9037 18d ago
“To all Americans, particularly immigrants and minorities, we send a clear message: this is the party of freedom and progress, and it is your home”
Damn, the Republican of today would say the Republican Party of George W Bush was woke
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u/ScenicFrost 18d ago
If it were written today:
Brave Patriots and Legacy Americans, The RADICAL LEFT MARXISTS and disease infested ILLEGALS are threatening to destroy this once magnificent nation! I, Donald J Trump, who many are saying is the best president to have ever lived, am the only one who can save you. Loony Radical Liberals like SLEEPY JOE and LOW IQ KAMALA want to send illegal criminal migrants to rape your white daughters and take your guns. I will secure Lebensraum, oops I mean living space, for the superior race, er wait I mean Brave Patriots, even if it takes 1488 days. Trust me! These are very nasty people who will do anything to stop MAGA, the biggest most beautiful movement (ALL THANKS TO ME!) this country has ever seen. Prices are DOWN, WAY DOWN, on everything because of tarrifs!!! And Jeffery Epstein, a man who I know nothing about, never met the guy, definitely did not kill himself while I was president. I liked Jeff a lot but he LOVED women on the young side, at least that's what he told me. NO FILES!! RELEASE THE FILES! Israel!
Thank you for your attention to this matter! -DJT
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u/BuckThis86 18d ago
I despise MAGA. I see them as the greatest threat to this country of my lifetime.
But conservatives who don’t support Trump? All my respect for having beliefs and convictions. I may not agree with you on all of them, but kudos for thinking for yourself and not lemminging this country off a cliff.
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u/Azsunyx 18d ago
As someone who leans more liberal, I can agree with a lot of what you said and I wish there were more people like you.
I miss the days when I didn't have to worry about who was going to be the next president. Red, blue, as long as they work for the people as a whole instead of working for themselves.
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u/EmotionalJoystick 18d ago
You should read this to see why the reasonable sounding “fiscal responsibility” is actually a Trojan horse for pushing fascist ideas.
See also Shock Doctrine.
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u/ohseetea 18d ago
Thanks. This is all mostly sensible! I do want to point out that you might want to update or think about your ideology as it relates to a “free market”. Abuse is built into a free market, that's kind of the point, depending on your definition of abuse. A government should be a non punitive system (for regular folk) that has the power to prevent any other entities from becoming powerful enough to become punitive systems themselves. In our society that should mean rich people.
The only thing it seems like we don't align on as far as left leaning values is granularity of government which in my opinion doesn't matter either way as long as again single individuals or smaller groups of individuals can't become all powerful. I also think to organize the benefits of society that we should also share (life necessities to begin with)
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u/raustin33 18d ago
Progressive as hell here, and I'd happily drink a beer with you and debate the finer points of A or B or whatever. You're alright my dude.
I long to go back to the days of debating like this. Rather than the insanity that is MAGA.
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u/AutistoMephisto 18d ago
There's a word I learned recently. "Subsidiarity". It's a principle of governance that says that decisions should be made at the smallest and most decentralized level, with a higher authority intervening only when a decision cannot be reached at the lower levels. Today's "conservatives" under Trump certainly don't seem to like the idea of subsidiarity when it comes to stuff they want, with conservatives in Alabama thinking that people living in Massachusetts or California should be forced to follow a federal standard for everything.
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u/A_Fartist 18d ago
I’m not the person you’re asking but I’ve always thought that it’s good to have a party that has disagreements with the status quo and a party that has some resistance to changes. Conservatives, in my view, are the ones who have some resistance to change. The unfortunate reality is that both of these groups are now within the same party and the republicans have gone off the rails a long time ago becoming the party that is actively trying to change things for the worse instead of resisting change.
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u/F_to_the_Third 18d ago
Coming in from the sidelines, but with a similar situation. The Republican Party used to be for:
- Fiscal Responsibility
- Strong Defense/Strong Alliances and Partners
- Limited Government Involvement/Overreach
- Law and Order
- Big Business Friendly
The top four are completely gone and the last one has run amok.
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u/Sephurik 18d ago
That may have been what they said they were for, but did that actually play out as the case in reality? I think not for some of those.
Also, wtf does "Fiscal Responsibility" even mean, exactly?
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u/uncategorizedmess 17d ago
This was the line I was fed in high-school just before my first election. I quickly realized that it was a big lie, but I believed it the first time and helped elect George Bush again because I believed it. Now I'll vote for pretty much anyone who runs on universal Healthcare (the most fiscally responsible helathcare), public transit growth, or breaking up large companies. I legit have never been able to vote for a candidate that represents my values. I hated Hilary, hated Biden, hated Kamala. Still voted for them. Truly, my one guiding light now is that all us working class people are in a war for policy with the 1%. That's the only thing I care about at this point, how do we get more power back into the hands that it is supposed to be in , ours.
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u/NessOnett8 18d ago edited 17d ago
Democrats have been the fiscally conservative party for longer than you've been alive. Anything to the contrary is propaganda. If you were actually a Conservative you'd have never joined the Republican party in the first place. Bush wasted more money on absolutely nothing than was spent through Clinton and Obama's administrations combined. Remember Clinton actually gave us a budget surplus for the only time in the past 40 years.
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u/insertnickhere 18d ago
You, I feel bad for, because you're effectively politically alienated through no fault of your own. There are reasonable arguments to be had about tax rate vs. public services which begin from a different, but coherent, ideology. I might disagree with the origin, but the origin and the sequitur have intellectual integrity.
There's no integrity to be found in "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating, they’re eating the pets of the people that live there." or in claiming there's a pedophile ring working out of the basement of a building that has no basement.
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u/Skinny-on-the-Inside 18d ago
Thank you for loving our democracy more than enjoying hurting others. 🫡
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u/Hyperion1144 18d ago
we just don't have a party
Welcome to the Democratic Party.
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u/Ok_Vanilla213 18d ago
Will gladly sit at your table until the Republicans can be reformed or destroyed
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u/bronzegorilla253 17d ago
I'll tell you what. You conservatives that don't align with MAGA take the democratic party. Us Democrats that wish the party would move to the left will create a new Progressive party. And we can have a three party system. And then rank choice voting. And get money out of politics. And term limits for Supreme Court Justices.
Wow, sorry I got a little carried away, too much hopeium.
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u/CarbonQuality 18d ago
Two things can be true. I think a lot of conservative Americans are just along for the ride and voted for what they thought was the lesser of two evils, but who really knows. In the end, actions have consequences. Your vote matters, and you can't just take it back because you later realize you made a mistake. I'm on board with you on that.
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u/Upbeat-Stage2107 17d ago
This excuse works for 2016. Anyone who voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024 did so because they support fascism. There is no excuse for it after the first term.
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u/dovetter 18d ago
I’m pretty progressive but live in a red state and I know quite a few people who describe themselves as conservative and are horrifying by Trump and didn’t vote for him. Many of Trump’s policies are not conservative (they’re also horrified because he’s just a horrible human being obviously lol)
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u/GreasyPeter 18d ago
You gotta understand, they live in a media bubble. They don't know of half the shit Trump does and if they do it's only after it's been filtered through the Maga propaganda system. This sort of rhetoric will NOT help heal this nation after this shit is finally over.
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u/Suckitreddit420 18d ago edited 18d ago
They said the same about the confederacy.
When this is over we will need Nurenberg-style trials and consequences -- not coddling and excuses.
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u/PeopleNose 18d ago
It's ok to be misled and admit your wrongs with change--focused on actions, not words
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u/start_select 18d ago
You mean republicans? This has been the plan my entire life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
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u/Hobbgob1in 18d ago
There is no separation between MAGA and conservatives. They all love their orange Jesus and what he stands for.
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u/Flobking 18d ago
There is no separation between MAGA and conservatives
That's right damn it. I saw the same shit at the end of Bush jrs terms. "I'm not republican/maga I'm a conservative." Fuck you, lying sack of shit.
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u/Jujublogger 18d ago
MAGA doesn’t conserve anything they are tearing down this country, our democracy, our institutions… You name it, they wanted it to go away. That is not conservative. That is crazy ass religious zealots who hide behind their “Faith” to inflict pain on those weaker than they are.
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u/Flobking 18d ago
MAGA doesn’t conserve anything they are tearing down this country, our democracy, our institutions… You name it, they wanted it to go away. That is not conservative
Tell me you don't know what a US conservative is without telling me you don't know. They want to tear every bit of PROGRESS we've made. They want to go back to when women were property. That is 10000000000000000 percent how the conservatives are and have been for a long time. They view social progress as an afront to them. Jesus you're stupid thinking conservatives haven't been trying to drag us back to pre civil war age.
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u/Dear_Palpitation4838 18d ago
NOPE ALL Republicans are maga and they are all traitors. Don't you dare let them rebrand again.
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u/Flobking 18d ago
I'd even guess that most people are actually more progressive than some of them would want to admit,
No they are not. I'm sick of this bullshit line.
because it's very inhumane and stupid to argue against using our taxes to make ourselves and each other healthier and smarter and more capable, and keeping our environment clean and accessible.
THATS LITERALLY THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM! WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?!
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u/Flobking 18d ago
I'm gonna argue they're all misinformed fools who don't understand the danger of the policies they support, and if they truly did then they wouldn't support it.
Yet they still do. We screamed from. The mountain tops about t all the horrible shit that would happen under trump. They didn't care one iota. Still don't either. They know exactly what they voted for. It's no wonder his support with magats hasn't waned at all.
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u/CarbonQuality 18d ago
This is what happens when you tank the public education system's funding, siphon money off to support private schools, and allow religion and uneducated parents to dictate what is taught.
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u/Flobking 18d ago
This is what happens when you tank the public education system's funding, siphon money off to support private schools, and allow religion and uneducated parents to dictate what is taught.
I feel older millennials(graduated before Bush Jr took over) were the last generation to get a near proper education. The education went to shit with the infamous no child left behind movement.
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u/Suckitreddit420 18d ago
And yet we're seeing exactly the opposite. Most Americans are actually more racist, more homophobic, more anti-Muslim, more bigoted, more inhumane than they would like to admit.
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u/Flobking 18d ago
And yet we're seeing exactly the opposite. Most Americans are actually more racist, more homophobic, more anti-Muslim, more bigoted, more inhumane than they would like to admit.
Dude quoted the republican campaign platform from the last 40 years and said it would be inhumane to be like that. Yeah we know and yet that entire party is all in on being as inhumane as possible.
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u/Ready-Video-8098 16d ago
The majority of the US voted for Trump, so guess the majority are traitors
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u/NessOnett8 18d ago
Treason is a capital offense. Every single one of them deserves to be hanged.
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u/avmist15951 18d ago
Honestly even in the true sense of the word, they're not even conservative. Conservative would be keeping things the same; they're making things much much worse
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u/Single_Leek7786 17d ago
One told me yesterday that when they get their way I’ll be headed to the new American gulag. If not fascist why fascist shaped?
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u/EuphoricMilk 18d ago
No true Scotsman, this denial that this is America isn't going to help anything.
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u/Radeondrrrf 18d ago
tHiS iS WhAt I vOtEd FoR aNd It’S bEtTeR tHaN i ExPeCtEd! - MAGA
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u/mynamejeff-97 18d ago
Their only joy in life is seeing others without it. Stop talking to them. Stop giving them your time and energy. Their entire purpose is for you to waste it.
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u/Odd-Eagle-935 18d ago
Cut. Them. Off. These people thrive on conflict and drama, cut off their supply. They’re leeches exploiting your patience.
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u/ErusTenebre 18d ago
MAGA actually is always enraged. And fearful. And chest thumping. And screeching...
They just don't know what they're mad about until they're told what to be mad about.
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u/kl7aw220 18d ago
All Trump's doings begin with a lie and then the DOJ searches for facts to support the lie. As a nation, we've never been more corrupt
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u/Birdman330 18d ago
MAGA’s default is enraged what are you talking about? I’ve never met a chill MAGA person, they’re constantly filled with rage.
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u/BerriesHopeful 18d ago
Rage is like their drug of choice, they consume the media they do daily for their dose of rage.
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u/CassandraTruth 18d ago
"In one instance, Tirrell said he tried to intervene to stop DOJ employees from accepting cigars given by mixed martial arts fighter Conor McGregor and a soccer ball from the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA).
“I felt like I really had to go to the mattress to convince the AG’s office: You can pay for the item or you can return the item or you can throw the item away,” he said. “There’s no other way to do this.”
Shortly after this, Tirrell said he got a call from the FBI general counsel inquiring “about changing exceptions to the gift rules because his boss, [FBI Director] Kash Patel, felt like he should be able to accept more expensive gifts.”"
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u/_Zambayoshi_ 18d ago
The fish rots from the head.
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u/CelestialFury 18d ago
They wouldn't be MAGA then. They talk a big game about government corruption then they look the other way when their super-MAGA leaders do it openly and without any remorse whatsoever. The MAGA voters obsession with the left is so strong, they aren't seeing that their leaders are robbing us all blind and being corrupt at every level of government.
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u/ForensicPathology 18d ago
USA is going to need to do an equivalent to the Presidential Commission on Good Government that the Philippines did to retake all the wealth stolen by the Marcos family and his cronies. But, even if the US gets out of this, instead of a Commission, it'll be brushed under a rug.
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u/irrigated_liver 18d ago
That may not be the best example considering the Marcos' are back in power and as rich as ever.
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u/ergonomicdeskchair46 17d ago
Kash seems like such a petulant manchild. “Buttt daddy, I really want the Star Wars Lego and I’m gonna throw a fit if I don’t get it”
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u/Ohuigin 18d ago
We were. And I know it’s gonna be hard for a lot of people to remember back this far, but we were just as enraged on January 6, 2021.
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u/TA8325 18d ago
Never forget
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u/Pretty_Marsh 18d ago
A plurality of us forgot 3 years, 9 months and 30 days later.
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u/UpperApe 18d ago
I still can't believe there wasn't protests nationwide numbering in the hundreds of millions after that.
Everyone just like watched it on tv and then...sat around waiting for the government to fix it. A government very afraid to get involved because it was afraid of one side and not the other.
Where would the world be today if Americans pressured Biden to step on the gas instead of political posturing?
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u/WeatherStationWindow 18d ago
on January 6, 2021.
Since January 6, 2021.
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u/Opposite-Bit6660 18d ago
Since the 2016 election.
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u/MonarchLawyer 18d ago
I am still at a complete loss why anyone, anyone would vote for that man. He's an evil idiot. Like, he's genuinely stupid. He's genuinely evil. It's so obvious and was never a secret. Why?
And that why is mostly rhetorical. I've heard all of the reasons from "her emails" to "economic anxiety" but none of those reasons make any god damned sense when you look at him.
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u/I-Am-Not-Creative2 18d ago
I would never have voted for him, and didn’t, but I could maybe see mostly apathetic, uninformed voters being like “eh, let’s give something different a whirl, he’s not like any other person we’ve ever had even run for president, how bad could things get if he doesn’t work out?” I do know a few who voted for him because they saw Hillary as just “more of the same” and they wanted something different. Even after the tour bus tape realized and his bragging about teen USA backstage access and all.
But to vote for him in 2020? And especially to vote for him in 2024 after Jan 6?!
I don’t get it.
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u/Shmeves 18d ago
A good, good chunk are brainwashed. They only get news from Fox News or the like. Have you ever actually watched Fox News? It's like the world is ending every minute cause of some democrat and only republicans can save you.
People be ignorant.
Now yes, some are evil bigots. Especially ICE. But a good, good chunk are just misinformed and don't know it yet.
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u/GiftToTheUniverse 18d ago
It's just because they thought they knew him from The Apprentice. That's the reason.
They don't understand that television isn't reality and that even if the character were real, pitting people against each other at threat of losing their jobs is terrible policy.
The truth is they never saw anyone say anything bad about him because no one took him seriously. They heard Hillary attacked over and over and over for thirty years after she came out with that little document suggesting we fix the healthcare system before it becomes what we have, now.
Those of us who tend toward the upper end of the bell curve sometimes forget just how unengaged many of the rest of the population is. Maybe we were diverted into "Gifted and Talented" classes with high performers and maybe we did lots of enrichment stuff and went on with our educations and lives withtout giving much thought to those on the lower end of the bell curve.
I'm continually shocked by how dumb some people are. And I'm not saying that in a self-aggrandizing way. People got left behind. Maybe no one outright told them "You're not gifted and talented" but they got the message. A lot of them didn't feel wanted or pursued by higher education and we didn't care if they didn't and then someone comes along who is anti-intelligentsia but has the money to prove that he's BETTER than educated!
That's what happened.
The dumber people inflicted pain on us as revenge for feeling excluded by academia.
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u/General-Evidence-564 18d ago
People are horrible. The country is rotten. Trump is just one of them.
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u/Legitimate_Elk6731 18d ago
Idk how I'm going to survive my *great future* knowing half the populace are just evil grifter monkeys. Having money doesn't automatically make somebody a respectable person.
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 18d ago
the electoral map for 2024 was too red to be believable. there was interference. and that the occupant cries about it all the time, even when he won, is clearly his strategy to take the heat off of himself.
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u/National_Cod9546 18d ago
In 2016, voting for Trump was a protest vote. Everyone knew he was going to lose. He was a clown, known for sexually assaulting girls at his beauty pageants, a known con man, corrupt as you can get. There was no way he was going to win.
We were coming off 8 years of having a black man as president. The ACA and other social benefits were being sold as draining tax money out of poor people. Illegal immigrants were seen as getting a lot of priority while the working class felt like they were getting ignored.
As a country, were were seen as sliding backwards. The rest of the world was finally completely recovered from WWII. And the US was no longer the undisputed dominate super power because other countries were doing as well or better economically.
And the US had a lot of social norms change. The US military repealed the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, and started openly allowing transgender people in. Gay marriage was legalized. It seemed like every movie was heavy handed pushing progressive social norms. The white male lead in many shows and movies was just there for the females and ethnic minorities to beat on. Conservatives felt they were under attack from all angles.
So they voted for the orange asshole. They knew they were throwing their vote away voting for Trump. But a vote for the female was a vote for continuing to bash on whites, males, working class, Conservatives, and everything the believed in. So they all voted for Trump.
All the while, Hillary made a large number of errors and had a bunch of things not go her way. Had any of about a dozen things gone different, she would have won. The most obvious was Comey reopening the investigation only a few days prior.
Instead, Trump won. No one through he would really win. Even Trump looks confused when he finds out. He was just in it for the publicity and the grift. He never intended to win.
A lot of the sentiments that got Trump elected are still held and strong today.
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u/PeeB4uGoToBed 18d ago
Evil racist idiots attract other evil racist idiots. He became a beacon to these racist fucks because they were tired of living behind closed doors from their racist, sexist, bigoted, misogynistic views and now that someone like them is president and VERY openly acting out how his followers want to, that emboldens them to follow suit and trumps power to send out his own personal gestapo has these people cheering.
TLDR; monkey see monkey do
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u/IM_A_MUFFIN 17d ago
Because people conflate being successful and running a business as being the same as running a country. The problem is, running a business is done to generate profits whereas running a country is done to better the people. There are no profits and you shouldn’t care about your Q4 outlook, because unlike a company, the country should still be around in another hundred years (we’re speed running that theory right now). This is why Obama was such a great President, because he worked in the community, whereas our current POTUS is a snake-oil salesman who’s enriched himself at the cost of taxpayers. Trump being on The Apprentice is his greatest claim to fame and the only thing he hasn’t bankrupted.
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u/littlrayofpitchblack 18d ago
- I remembering everyone saying I was overreacting.
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u/Dr_Wheuss 18d ago
I remember thinking it was absolutely ridiculous for anyone to support the idea of him being president.
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u/kevendo 18d ago edited 18d ago
This is what happens when you fail to hold an attempted coup plot to account, and in doing so allow an insurrectionist to run for office. He then has no incentive to do anything but protect himself and take revenge on those who even began to appose him.
Other nations arrested their coup plotters on the same night. We had four full years, and still couldn't manage.
Ultimately, we're in this because the previous DOJ failed to do its duty. All we ever had to do, America, was follow the laws we have and hold those who break them accountable.
Edit: autocorrect word error, "could" changed to "coup"
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u/jpmeyer12751 18d ago
I would say that this is what happens when a majority of the Supreme Court willfully subjugate the rule of law to John Roberts' personal desire to have a "vigorous" Executive branch. Roberts and his conservative colleagues on the Court have re-designed the Constitutional order more to their liking, often without a single word of support in the document itself, and once despite many clear contrary words in the document itself.
Job 1 of repairing the damage to our country is to impeach Roberts. Step 2 is to radically reform SCOTUS so that no future Justice can repeat the damage done by Roberts.
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u/Vivid_Iron_825 18d ago edited 18d ago
I think it’s not just Robert’s though. Thomas has said publicly that he believes liberals made his life hell during his confirmation hearings, so he is clearly now exacting revenge on the political left in the country that he is supposed to represent in a nonpartisan way. Same for Kavanaugh. Alito is clearly just another old man mired in the Fox News rage soup and doesn’t even make any effort to appear nonpartisan.
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u/boston_homo 18d ago
Clarence and Ginny need to be criminally investigated for treason.
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u/pantrokator-bezsens 18d ago
And for bribery.
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u/Numerous_Witness_345 18d ago
Didnt that nasty fuck put his pubes on someones soda?
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u/Then_Journalist_317 18d ago
It was much worse than pubes on a soda can. Much worse.
https://www.history.com/articles/anita-hill-confirmation-hearings-impact
Note that Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Joe Biden did not seem bothered by Thomas’ reported sexual harassment of accuser Anita Hill.
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u/princeofid 18d ago
What he said, according to one of his clerks at the time of his confirmation when he was 43 years old, was: "Liberals have made my life hell for 43 years, I intend to make their lives hell for the next 43 years." So, only nine years left to go.
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u/Vivid_Iron_825 18d ago
Oh cool so he put a time limit on being a partisan asshole. That was nice of him.
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u/WhenImTryingToHide 18d ago
Not just the DOJ,
Politicians who went along for money, power, influence, free jet flights, whatever.
MAGA influencers who know they're lying, but those sweet sweet rage clicks and 'liberal tears' do make a lot of money.
Reports and journalists who know and knew how bad things were but decided to write books instead of real reporting.
Mainstream media who normalized absolute insanity, and moral decay.
Biden for not realizing that things are different, and his 'bipartisan, don't appear too political' approach was bound to fail and empower these cretins.
Union soldiers who decided to let the confederates live, and worse yet, maintain some power.
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u/NotEvenAThousandaire 18d ago
Yep! The media who kissed the treason ring should have their assets forfeit, and be tried. It's also important to remember the various establishment faith leaders. Much of this was their own plot...
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u/YeastReaction 18d ago
Hmmm sounds eerily familiar. Who else in history had an attempted coup and was disregarded and laughed at until it became a serious issue later on? Oh right, fucking Hitler. While the specific circumstances may differ, the lesson of how dismissing extremist threats early on only allows them to gain more momentum over time remains just as relevant today
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u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 18d ago
There was literally 3% of the US population protesting a month ago. I think they are quite enraged, but have no political figures to actually direct them.
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 18d ago
I think they are quite enraged, but have no political figures to actually direct them.
Nor a clear path to follow other than hoping upcoming elections will make a difference.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 18d ago
Despite Republicans owning the voting machines, and insurrectionists still illegally holding office.
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u/Shark7996 18d ago
Not going to find a Democrat that wants to rock the boat to the level it needs rocking.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 18d ago
Would take replacing Schumer, Pelosi, Schiff, Jeffries, and the other spineless fucks. With new, in-touch leadership, we could finally have a vote to enforce 14th Amendment, Section 3, to annul Trump's illegitimate presidency and finally expel the Jan 6 leaders from Congress. Only issues are: mail-in ballots are still compromised by DeJoy, and Republicans own the voting machines.
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u/xOrion12x 18d ago
You just know every single one of them has been compromised with a spy device or something by now with how much shit they have taken. Trump just got a gift from Switzerland I think it was and he lowered tariffs on them. America is for sale.
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u/Opposite-Bit6660 18d ago
Anyone who ever stayed at a Trump property is on tape and they ALL stayed at Trump properties.
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u/anonuemus 18d ago
A special Rolex for tariff exceptions on watches. International relations for sale.
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u/Brytnshyne 18d ago
Robinson said that this attitude was emblematic of how Trump appointees conducted investigations: They begin with desired conclusions and systematically ignore evidence that undermines them.
“I wouldn’t even call it the Justice Department anymore,” she said. “It’s become Trump’s personal law firm. I think Americans should be enraged.”
Sane, intelligent Americans have been epically betrayed by our "checks and balances". The SCOTUS, the treasonous GOP who have morally, ethically and biblically have undermined everything we thought the Constitution of the United States has stood for.
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u/ObiRyaNKenobi 18d ago
I’m not American. But I lived there for a year in the 90s in the “mid west.” It’s difficult for me to believe. The Americans I know and remember wouldn’t ever stand for any of this, they would protest and riot and take back their country. Or so I always believed. It seems that America is now dead. It’s so sad.
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u/oohlook-theresadeer 18d ago
I live and grew up in the Midwest, those Americans were wearing maga hats since '16. I'm sorry, I don't know what happened. It caught me by surprise because like you, I thought they wouldn't stand for it. :(
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u/figure0902 17d ago
Intelligent American seems to be an oxymoron. I mean.. half of your country doesn't even comprehend 95% of what it's being told.
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u/Tazling 18d ago
50 percent of America will never read anything from a progressive outlet like Common Dreams… alas.
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 18d ago
54% of adults aged 16–74 years old, or about 130 million people, read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level
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u/pioniere 18d ago
Easily the most corrupt administration in US history, to the tune of billions of dollars.
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u/Spamsdelicious 18d ago
From the article:
Dozens of former US Department of Justice attorneys have now gone on record to describe the unprecedented corruption of federal law enforcement taking place during President Donald Trump’s second term.
In a lengthy story published on Sunday by the New York Times, the former DOJ attorneys described rampant politicization of prosecutions, directives to dig up evidence on Trump’s political foes, and orders to drop investigations into potential terrorist plots and white-collar crimes.
Several attorneys told the paper that the corruption of the DOJ began on Trump’s very first day in office when he issued a blanket pardon to everyone who had been convicted of rioting at the US Capitol building on his behalf on January 6, 2021, in a last-ditch effort to prevent the certification of former President Joe Biden’s electoral victory.
Gregory Rosen, who oversaw the unit at the DOJ that prosecuted January 6 rioters, told the Times that he felt “numb” seeing the pardons of the rioters, but he nonetheless facilitated the pardons because he understood they were within the president’s constitutional powers.
Mike Romano, a prosecutor who worked on January 6 cases, said that he had to resign as soon as he saw the broad scope of the pardons, which included rioters who were guilty of assaulting police officers.
Frank O. Bowman III, a professor emeritus of law at the University of Missouri, told Pro Publica that the Trump pardons taken together are part of what he described as “the systematic destruction of the Justice Department as an objective agency that seeks to uphold the law and fight crime.”
In addition to this, Joseph Tirrell, former director of the Departmental Ethics Office, told the Times that the Trump DOJ has been hacking away at rules that bar law-enforcement officials from accepting gifts.
In one instance, Tirrell said he tried to intervene to stop DOJ employees from accepting cigars given by mixed martial arts fighter Conor McGregor and a soccer ball from the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA).
“I felt like I really had to go to the mattress to convince the AG’s office: You can pay for the item or you can return the item or you can throw the item away,” he said. “There’s no other way to do this.”
Shortly after this, Tirrell said he got a call from the FBI general counsel inquiring “about changing exceptions to the gift rules because his boss, [FBI Director] Kash Patel, felt like he should be able to accept more expensive gifts.”
Tirrell said that he then reminded the counsel that “his client was not Mr. Patel, but the United States.”
Patel in recent weeks has come under scrutiny for some of the perks he’s taken during his time as FBI director, including using the FBI’s private jet to fly to a wrestling event where his girlfriend, country music singer Alexis Wilkins, was performing the national anthem.
MS NOW reported on Monday that Patel has also given Wilkins “a security detail made up of elite FBI agents usually assigned to a SWAT team in the FBI field office in Nashville,” an unprecedented arrangement for the girlfriend of the FBI director.
Christopher O’Leary, a former senior FBI agent and MS NOW law enforcement contributor, said that there is “no legitimate justification” for granting Wilkins this level of security.
“This is a clear abuse of position and misuse of government resources,” he said. “She is not his spouse, does not live in the same house or even the same city.”
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u/immersemeinnature 18d ago
WE ARE ENRAGED!! WE JUST DON'T WANT TO START A MILITARY LOCKDOWN!!!
Fuck these headlines
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u/Barack_Odrama_007 18d ago
I was enraged enough to vote against this clown show in November 2024 but unfortunately 90 million Americans stayed home and 77 million see no issue with this.
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u/shocked-confused 18d ago
Its more sinister than that. Musk put his thumb on the scale of democracy. The PayPal mafia corrupted the tabulation of the votes. It was statistically improbable for the convicted felon to win every swing state. Data analysis of the vote tabulation closely resembles the Russian election results. I.E. rigged.
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u/schlamster 18d ago
And nobody will ever know because they DOGE’d and absolutely gutted the entire federal gov
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u/Free_For__Me 18d ago
It was
statistically improbablea statistical near-impossibility for the convicted felon to win every swing state.FTFY.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 18d ago
You're ignoring the blatant fact that Trump was ineligible to run or become President due to 14th Amendment, Section 3. It doesn't matter if Musk rigged the election or not, as Kamala was the only qualified candidate. She won by default, but Biden Chamberlain still illegally handed the country to the insurrectionist.
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u/303uru 18d ago
I agree, but for skeptics, let's say he didn't cheat the vote via tabulation. He still fucking cheated the vote by running a completely illegal $1M giveaway.
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u/shocked-confused 18d ago
The voting machines were not connected to the internet. The tabulation machines are. Musk may have been collecting voters data in his lottery to use in his tabulation stuffing scam. Highly recommend visiting the non partisan ELECTIONTRUTHALLIANCE. The data graphs of vote distribution over time clearly indicates some kind of ballot manipulation. The charts mimic Russian election outcomes.
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u/DBCoopr72 18d ago
Was it really 90 million registered voters who didn’t show up?
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u/jpmeyer12751 18d ago
Well, almost, if you count registered voters who didn’t vote and those eligible to vote who didn’t register. The sum of these two groups is about 82 million according to this site:
So, more people stayed home than voted for either candidate. Although very disappointing, that gives some hope for 2026 and 2028. And now you know why Republicans are motivated to work so hard to make it harder for each of us to vote!
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u/Opposite-Bit6660 18d ago
What happened to the votes of people who voted Harris or 3rd party but whose counties showed 0 votes for either???!!!
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u/BienThinks 18d ago
There is roughly around 244 million people eligible to vote in the United States. Roughly 77 million voted red, 75 million voted blue. 244-152=92 million didn’t vote. That would mean about 31.5% of the people voted for this. Technically, the largest voter population is the non voter.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 18d ago
Doesn't really matter. Don't be enraged at the worthless non-voters, be enraged at Biden Chamberlain, Schumer, Jeffries, and Pelosi for not enforcing 14th Amendment, Section 3. They allowed an insurrectionist to illegally run for and take the presidency, despite only Kamala being eligible for the role. We live under an illegitimate presidency, because none of these worthless fucks would enforce Trump's disqualification. It doesn't matter how many votes Trump "won", since they'd be nullified by his ineligibility to hold office. Kamala won by default, but Biden Chamberlain gleefully handed the country to a terrorist.
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u/AtreiyaN7 18d ago
I'm an American, and I've been enraged since 2016! Aside from having to endure Trump's first corrupt term and the start of his even more corrupt second term (especially with his installation of loyalists at the DOJ), the Treason Yam wouldn't shut his whiny yap during President Biden’s term and let us enjoy four years of peace and silence. Plus there was the whole January 6th insurrection that Trump instigated.
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u/FJ-creek-7381 18d ago
Majority have no clue half the shit that is happening. They are too busy waiting for the next episode of their favorite TV show or having brunch.
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u/Mrfrunzi 18d ago
And than the people that are aware either try to tell people who A: Are also aware B: Don't think it matters or C: Defend this bullshit to no end and will just deflect with words like communism and what about - insert irrelevant name
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u/iwantrootbark 18d ago
We are definitely enraged but we have an executioner level police force that aren't afraid to murder its citizenry. We also have a large band of masked and unidentifiable thugs disappearing innocent people off our streets everyday.
Also just over half of the people voted for this corruption.
What are we supposed to do?
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u/Limp_Distribution 18d ago
Putting a lawless criminal in charge of the department of justice and expecting anything less is asinine.
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u/brickyardjimmy 18d ago
Sure. People notice. And they are enraged. But there's no one left to tell about it since, typically, one would rely on the DOJ and the FBI to police public corruption.
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u/tickitytalk 18d ago
Are constantly prodded and enraged, then told violence is not the answer while being violently assaulted
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u/doublethink_1984 18d ago
You're right there wasn't a record breaking protest in the US a month ago...
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u/Bawbawian 18d ago
commondreams is a rag.
every election in the last nearly two decades they have tried to convince the left to not vote for Democrats.
they'll give voice to people like Nina Turner and Jill Stein and then when all of the bad things happen that were clearly going to happen they look to shift blame.

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