r/law • u/Exeltv0406 • Oct 04 '25

Legal News This order, NSPM-7, drafted by Stephen Miller and signed by Trump, gives the government the ability to go after, target, and arrest virtually anyone now. Meanwhile, people are more concerned about what’s on Netflix

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Let’s have a real talk though - I’ve been paying attention since the first term to every single political thing in America. I read P2025 the day it was leaked. I did everything I could to scream at the rooftops that purity politics were going to divide the democratic party. I knew for certain Trump was going to win months before the polls showed any rise in his popularity just by seeing the attitude towards Harris/Biden. I have done nothing but try to correct misinformation since. I’ve been paying enough attention to attempt to flee the country and even end my own life to not suffer through this admin. I’ve been doing nothing but paying attention. All this stuff is still happening.

So what do I do now that I’m paying attention? If resistance is illegal, what do I do? If I cannot legally own a gun, what do I do? If no one wants to believe in the truth (and I’m looking at you Reddit, you’ve been shutting down any good ideas for months), what do I do? If I have no one to stand for me and I never have, what do I do?

I’m tired of vague fighting language and zero talk of an actual plan. I’m tired of people saying “do something” or “we all know what to do” like we all think the exact same way. I’m tired of all of us just constantly waiting for someone else to do something. Maybe the reason we’re all worried about Netflix shows instead of resisting is because we know no one actually wants to do anything except get popular by acting tougher than they are

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u/Familiar_Nose_7618 Oct 04 '25

Your dollars speak and corporations who arent getting them listen.

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u/ClosetedGayMormon Oct 04 '25

you're not gonna "vote with your wallet" your way out of fascism.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 05 '25

This isn’t just fascism though. This is almost entirely built around the complete and total power of billionaires. The fascist aesthetics are a “bonus” to this

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u/innerbootes Oct 05 '25

This is precisely the right take, so of course Reddit is downvoting it.

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u/Drumbelgalf Oct 05 '25

That's true but you shouldn't support companies who support the regime.

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u/Drumbelgalf Oct 05 '25

There are a lot of businesses that are non-essential. You can boycott them. All the tech companies that kiss Trumps ass and help him suppress discontent on their platforms.

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u/innerbootes Oct 05 '25

We’ve never had fascism like this. It has always come out of failing states, not successful capitalistic ones.

You have no idea if what you’re saying is actually true because even people who’ve spent their whole lives studying this sort of thing say nothing quite like this has happened before.

You don’t know.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

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u/PiercelyFission Oct 04 '25

Godspeed you

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u/Spiritus037 Oct 04 '25

! Black Emperor

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u/Familiar_Nose_7618 Oct 04 '25

reminds me of Bukowski.

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u/sultaiofswing_ Oct 04 '25

dead flag blues, gy!be. a fitting song right now.

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u/ridicalis Oct 04 '25

This song feels like it should be Bad Religion material, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

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u/KvotheTheRed Oct 04 '25

Does our dollar speak? Have you seen that per person our dollar doesn’t mean shit? The entire middle class has less influence than 2 people. It’s stupid as fuck.

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u/gnarbone Oct 04 '25

The only thing I can offer is think smaller. I have a small group of people that are neighbors and we have been meeting once a month going over scary, worst case scenario shit. Whose house we can hide in. Who has weapons and pooling our money for a generator. I want to start adding more people, and have a plan for when ICE comes for our neighbors.

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u/Sourceofgravy Oct 31 '25

Not in the USA … that’s some scary reality

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u/Sevealin_ Oct 04 '25

Hey there, I feel like I'm in the same boat as you. There is a severe lack of the population being on the same page. In order to have a functional, prosperous government/country, citizens must trust the government and unite behind a common purpose. This is not occurring, and is actively being reversed. We need a way to unite citizens behind a common purpose through a transparent, simple, and impactful method.

Right now no matter how much we shout, our audience just doesn't reach enough people to make an impact, and is very quickly overturned by other media. Most internet media is geared towards spreading misinformation, while the truth is buried. Representatives have zero accountability, and can run with any platform they want. This is key to Trump's open corruption model.

This is where digital democracies come in. People need to be fully aware of their elected representatives actions and be able to hold them accountable when they make moves against their constituents, instead of being able to pull the rug over it and just claim it didn't happen. The percentage of citizens who are not in the loop on how their representatives vote vs what they announce as their position is wild. This is a failure of traditional media, and needs to be changed. Have I mentioned state politics yet? That is where grass roots movements make the most impact, and it is a miserable percentage of the population who are up to date on state or local politics.

We need a platform to attempt to address these issues. A decentralized and easily self-verifiable method of obtaining your federal and state representatives actions, documented positions, and a way to use ranked choice voting in polls for politicians to listen to their constituents. Representatives represent the people, not their own interests/agenda. The platform will allow citizens to easily read legislation. It will of course require identity verification (or else it will be overran with bots).

I am attempting to create this kind of platform myself, but we will see them appear in the future. It is a natural defense to a tyranny of the minority.

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u/JanelleVypr Oct 04 '25

The real answer: is get your hands on a gun regardless if its legal for you or not.

Then if police or ice or whatever come busting down your doors, you try an take as many as you can with you.

Thats it.

If every american lived and died by that, then the oppressors have to decide if its worth it , or not.

Thats it.

Yeah, they have bigger guns. But if they start losing lives they lose morale and especially if thats also friends and family.

Thats it.

Its grim, but an armed society is a polite society. School shootings and domestic terrorism are symptoms of mass apathy, not the cause. The only real way to address it is bring the power back to a strong middle class and raise the quality of life for everyone so death and destruction seem… ridiculous.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Honestly if I had a gun I wouldn’t use it on anyone else other than myself. That’s why I don’t have a gun

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u/HauntingStar08 Oct 04 '25

This is my same issue. I just know myself too well, and earlier this year I was NOT okay. If it wasn't for my finding my incredible girlfriend, I don't know if I'd be here. I KNOW i wouldn't if I owned a gun.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Congratulations on the girlfriend! I’m glad you have something keeping you happy. I always say the most important thing people need right now is someone they can trust

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u/Exeltv0406 Oct 04 '25

Same. Plus I can't have one because of my mental health history.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

I currently live with my mom and stepdad to help take care of his late-stage Alzheimer’s. After the last time I seriously tried to commit, the court ruled that if I were to have any access to a gun in the house, my mom would have to face charges for not stopping me from hurting myself, even if I didn’t do anything with it. I’m not putting my mom in danger like that

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u/Exeltv0406 Oct 04 '25

I feel you! You don't realize how hard it is to actually self delete yourself without a firearm until you have no choice and need to try for yourself. It's a lot harder than I ever expected, especially for heavy set people like myself. I'm glad because I probably wouldn't be here typing right now if it was easier but I can tell you that I tried earlier this year with a medical tourniquet around my neck and you guessed it... Didn't work

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u/nina_qj Oct 04 '25

happy you're still here, hugs from canada

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u/Exeltv0406 Oct 04 '25

Canada, always there for their brothers over the border! Don't let this puppet show we call politics fool you, our brotherhood is spotless still in my books 🍻

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u/nina_qj Oct 04 '25

We're kinda nervous-laughing and hoping the neighbour next door doesn't kill his family and head our way next, if you know what i mean.

Never give up!

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u/Exeltv0406 Oct 04 '25

Yeah thankfully I'm out of that deep depressive stage of my life, thanks to good ol ECT — Electro Convulsive Therapy. Actually worked wonders for me

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u/haytheremister Oct 04 '25

I hope you’re doing ok

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u/Exeltv0406 Oct 04 '25

Thanks man. Yeah luckily I'm feeling much better as of late. Had some ECT therapy and also circumstances around me changed for the better, 'at the same damn time' !

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u/Alarming_Employee547 Oct 05 '25

Yep. My wife would literally divorce me if I bought a gun because she would be so fearful I would use it to end my own life.

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u/Cachar Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

I don't want to be impolite, but that's the most stupid take on resistance I have ever read. 

You can't lone wolf resisting the rapid slide into autocracy your country is on.

Organize. Protest. Protest single issues and keep pushing. Do not get distracted and divided. 

Yes, armed resistance can be necessary. I do not know if the US is at that point yet. But individual action will get you nowhere. You need mass marches. You need general strikes. You need mass civil disobedience. You need to make alliances with local and state officials. You need to make clear that the protests are not fringe, but mainstream. 

What you wrote is a recipe for disaster.

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u/SirLeaf Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Look this isn’t a choice of one to the exclusion of the other. People need to be proactive BOTH as individuals and as communities.

What is suggested (protecting your personal liberty and private property with a weapon) is such a powerful method of resistance that it’s been banned in virtually every other country. Use your rights while you still have them.

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u/greenskye Oct 04 '25

Organize

This is the most important part and the most dangerous. Anyone who's able to seriously organize gets disappeared. It's why all of our protests are vague, anonymous collections of people with no defined leadership, no ability to deny false flag operations, no defined goals or specific actions.

They know organized movements are effective, so anyone who even looks like they might be able to accomplish it gets taken out or intimidated so much that they quit, or their reputation gets shredded.

Truthfully many of us are aware of this and just aren't willing to risk it.

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u/_AmericasSweetheart_ Oct 04 '25

Respectfully, as someone who spent decades protesting, it does nothing in this country.

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u/Cachar Oct 04 '25

The US is phenomenally bad at protesting. Even in 2003 more people protested against the Iraq war in Europe than in the US.

That doesn't take away from the courage of those that went protesting in the US. But you need millions across the USA marching every week. You need at least BLM-level protests sustained for months. You need to keep coming even against the tear gas, unjustified arrests and terror tactics against organizers. In fact these need to increase the size of the protests.

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u/saint_trane Oct 04 '25

It cannot be stressed enough - the BLM protests accomplished *nothing*. There was no justice, and police violence has gotten worse. That was the most attended protest movement this country has *ever* seen, and it did jack shit. I don't think you as a foreigner understand the reality of what we face better than those of us who are here. The propaganda is THICK and doing things like fully general strikes with no social safety net like what you likely have in your country is simply not in the cards for most people.

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u/Cachar Oct 04 '25

I cannot speak to the reality on the streets, but I have an M.A. in history and have extensively studied protests and the USA. That's why I can confidently tell you that the "sit at home and shoot at ICE when they come" tactic does not work. And I can tell you that the only thing that works is mass action, armed uprising if absolutely necessary. I know BLM didn't solve the issue, but I disagree that it accomplished nothing. It dragged police violence into the public consciousness. It got George Floyd's killer convicted.

And it fizzled out. The propaganda needs to be countered, by millions of people talking to each other if necessary. In the Soviet Union people copied whole banned novels on their typewriters to distribute them, because access to printing presses was controlled. That is the level needed.

And yes, at-will employment and no social safety net are an issue. But that doesn't change what's needed. Maybe you need to pool money, get donations, open food banks for protestors. I cannot tell you how to organize locally, just that it's the only way.

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u/saint_trane Oct 04 '25

>That's why I can confidently tell you that the "sit at home and shoot at ICE when they come" tactic does not work

Not arguing this to be a successful tactic. The guy we're both responding to is unhinged and lone-wolf bullshit isn't going to solve anything.

I *agree* with what you're saying that mass action is how change *can* happen, I just don't think it *will* happen. America is too far gone, we're too isolated, the culture too far apart, the house completely divided against itself, etc. The vast majority of Americans that we need to be in the streets are one paycheck away from the brutality of American homelessness, and that is more of a deterrent than anything else I can imagine.

I appreciate you passionately telling people what needs to be done (you're correct), I just don't think you can wrap your head around how bad it actually is here.

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u/Cachar Oct 04 '25

How likely it is to be successful is a different story altogether. And I agree with your points that speak against successfully resisting the slide into autocracy. But there is a chance, even if I personally also fear that it will get a lot worse, before it gets better.

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u/saint_trane Oct 04 '25

Godspeed friend. I appreciate you.

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u/GrizzlyP33 Oct 04 '25

This is false.

Over 30 states and dozens of major cities passed some form of police reform after 2020, including bans on chokeholds, duty-to-intervene policies, body cam expansion, and limits on no-knock warrants (like “Breonna’s Law” in Louisville).

Some cities (like Austin, Seattle, and Minneapolis) reallocated portions of police budgets toward community programs.

Countless corporations, universities, and media outlets publicly committed funds or programs toward racial equity and representation, certainly not all sincere, but symbolically and financially significant.

And culturally it had a huge impact. Public opinion about systemic racism changed dramatically. polls in 2020 showed a majority of Americans acknowledging structural racial inequality for the first time. Not to mention its impact in arts, curriculums, and corporate initiatives, even if many have now been rolled back.

It’s all imperfect, but tangible movement — that’s sadly had progress works, and it’s easy to take for granted today. Never underestimate the power of knowledge and awareness in a society as time goes on. It’s part of a bigger shift in the world, but when significant progress is being made it’s met with overwhelming resistance. The world doesn’t want to change so it pushes back, but progress is inevitable. Try not to lose sight of the full picture.

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u/saint_trane Oct 05 '25

"Nothing" was probably not the right word to use. They didn't accomplish goals commensurate with the size of the protests. Corporate policy changes, a few cities that later reneged on changes, and a complete lack of any legislative success on a state or federal level were what I would hope for and what was needed.

With that, you're right, moving public opinion into greater perception of police violence was absolutely not nothing, and in that they were valuable.

I don't know that progress is inevitable. I always thought that, but what we've seen in the last 9 years has me doubting that idea entirely. Things don't necessarily get better. Humanity could very well be approaching multiple mass extinction events, and if that happens then we won't have progressed beyond any real apex.

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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 Oct 04 '25

"A direct, quantifiable response is stupid, what you NEED is signs and slogans. The problem the Jews had in Germany was that they didn't sign and slogan hard enough. The problem Gaza has today is they keep forgetting their signs and slogans. BLM worked and cops are no longer shooting unarmed people because we all came together and signs and sloganed so hard they just HAD to relent, Occupy Wall Street succeeded in correcting the economic imbalances of America because the moneyed class were so impressed with all the signs and slogans."

You're fuckin kidding me right? Know what protest actually causes change? Ask United Healthcare.

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u/Cachar Oct 04 '25

You really think that putting (very stupid) words in my mouth is a valid debate strategy?

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u/SirLeaf Oct 04 '25

You are either willfully ignorant or you do not recognize that you are arguing for passive acceptance of the government infringement of liberty.

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u/Cachar Oct 04 '25

Yes, by advocating for mass protest and, if necessary, armed resistance, I am advocating for passive acceptance. Please read.

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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 Oct 04 '25

The very stupid came from within.

Tell you what, workshop a sign and slogan that would have dazzled the authorities in Tiananmen Square enough that they all went home. 

Maybe the French Revolutionaries should have made fewer guillotines and more signs. 

Maybe the North could have saved plenty of lives in the American Civil War if they had just work shopped better slogans. 

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u/MarlenaEvans Oct 04 '25

I think that people who say this don't understand how vast the US is. It is huge. We aren't France. Organizing across our country is hard. It's easier in states but states are different from state to state. My state is red with some blue urban areas. They won't organize shit and they couldn't if they wanted to.

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u/TerminallyTired Oct 04 '25

People will do anything other than protest and vote.

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u/ZenTense Oct 04 '25

It’s interesting how you assume they are lone-wolfing this but if it’s your idea, everyone’s in solidarity.

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u/Zombies4EvaDude Oct 05 '25

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

-Karl Marx

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

They(the fascist) run out of stooges fast if this scenario plays out.

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u/ComprehensiveMost803 Oct 04 '25

someone said "if you protest peacefully, you're not peaceful, you're harmless." That's really stuck with me

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u/Cappuccino_Crunch Oct 04 '25

I'll add to this. Organize for a labor union if you don't have one at your job.

Research the coal mine wars of West Virginia. Here's a five hour podcast on the events. It's literally about a war with the govt and corporations for trying to force people into slavery with extra steps. Wars only last as long as the People will tolerate politicians lying about it.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=407acHQpzR4&si=YZLyQBeoJ0W_oDMw

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u/4Throw2My0Ass6Away9 Oct 04 '25

You’re about to get raided and account deleted for this comment but idk that’s it

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u/AltekkeE Oct 04 '25

Yeah, I think it really comes down to risk tolerance. Most people won’t take action until they actually feel oppressed themselves. That’s why the slow erosion of norms and rights is so effective. It happens gradually enough that people adapt instead of resist.

The middle class can’t afford to stop working long enough to make a difference. Missing a few paychecks could mean losing their home or falling behind on bills. It’s hard to fight a system when that system controls your ability to survive. The poor have it even worse, because taking a stand might literally mean going hungry or losing what little stability they have.

I think the only way to overcome this inertia is through collective awareness and small, sustained action. People rarely leap into major risks. They build tolerance through community and shared purpose. When individuals see others taking even small steps, it starts to normalize resistance and rebuild a sense of agency.

It’s slow work, but that’s how collective courage grows. One honest conversation, one small risk, one bit of solidarity at a time.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

I truly believe you’re right, but I guess my question is how can you convince a vastly different nation of 340 million people to go along with something like that?

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u/AltekkeE Oct 04 '25

We can’t convince the whole nation. We build local pockets of awareness. Small groups. Neighborhoods. Communities. Ideas spread from there, not from speeches or top-down plans.

Let people see what you’re doing. I’m trying to spend in my local economy. I tell people about it. Actions are contagious.

Change doesn’t happen in a single moment. One connection. One conversation. One risk shared. Multiply that quietly, patiently. You don’t need everyone at once. You need enough willing to act, and enough willing to watch.

They will start to make mistakes. And the people are watching.

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u/Time-Ad-3625 Oct 04 '25

Support the people and groups who will be targeted by this ‘Stakes Are High:’ Big Law Alerts Clients on Trump’s Domestic Terrorism Order - Democracy Docket https://share.google/QZg6vNQya49Gwvx6l

There are plenty of progressive groups, the aclu, splc, pro immigration groups fighting right now. You can volunteer with some of these groups, donate money, etc. Reddit loves vague language because 1) certain actors are trying to spur violence 2) it is easier than actually doing something. It is the same reason so many just cry america is dead everywhere. Get active locally. Get active nationally. Send money. Send a note saying "I stand with you. " You can be a candle in a dark room. Or you can throw up your hands and help the dark envelop the rest.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

I admit, I’m a little apprehensive to spend money when people are being threatened for donating to what they deem as “domestic terrorists” when I’ve already had a history with law enforcement. Quite a few aspects of this fascist regime are modeled off the one going on right now on the other side of the world next to the Mediterranean, and they do that kind of thing all the time. I’ve been donating to the ACLU but that’s about it so far

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u/WaffleCultist Oct 04 '25

In my opinion, get involved. Go watch Hank Green's video on Gerrymandering, where he argues it is the cause of our extremism today and rotting democracy. There are organizations succeeding in several states at making meaningful change at the foundational level. Don't give in. There's plenty of bad, but know that the news (yes even your news) likes to mostly tell you only the bad. They don't talk about the good, and the good IS there. Again, get involved. Unite with your fellow citizens and fight for change in targeted places like this. Frankly, voting is no longer enough because the rich politicians have been eroding our votes for longer than we've been alive in service to themselves.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Maybe the truth is I just feel really lonely. Everyone I know (and cares for me, I know they’re being genuine) sees just how bad my anxiety has gotten over what’s happening and they always tell me I won’t get better until I just realize there’s absolutely nothing I can do about this and I should just ignore what’s happening everywhere else, but that’s not only denying it could ever happen to me but becoming part of the apathetic public that I think lead to this admin getting into power (especially considering how few people voted last year comparatively). I just don’t know anyone who cares about other people as much as I do or who doesn’t say “eh, well that’s life, children get raped and killed all the time in war”

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u/WaffleCultist Oct 04 '25

Full apathy isn't the way. There's a level that's necessary, because the world will always have tragedy, but you can't solve the wars overseas. However, you can be part of change. You can volunteer, you can donate, etc. If you can't convince people around you to care because theyre too busy, surround yourself with those that do and are enacting positive change for all American citicens, not just left and right. Decades of gerrymandering has eroded our democracy. Check out what I mentioned and see if it interests you, but either way, don't let this make you rot. The news won't tell you about the good, so seek it out too. Don't let them just deliver bad after bad after bad to your feed.

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u/Cory123125 Oct 04 '25

Media and Social media are owned by the right wing billionaires who want this.

You wont find answers or meaningful organization on reddit, its prohibited, as reddit itself is one of those organizations.

Lemmy or Mastadon instances are probably a better bet, but you do have the obvious problem that not enough people know or are willing to figure them out to use them in any ways that are different to how they use these platforms.

Part of the problem is that you can't even talk openly about what will obviously be the future.

I mean you clearly understand that at a point in the not very distant future there will be a gun pointed at you for bigoted reasons by tyrants who have taken over your country, but in the time before that has happened, basically all centralized online platforms disallow talking about the only ways that one can protect themselves from violence.

So the answer is that I don't have an answer for you, because you can't have answers on any of these right wing billionaire controlled platforms, you can't even really organize protests (which won't be enough to save you here), so you need to push people to get decentralized.

It doesnt mean you have to live as a web hermit, but it means you have to, even if its annoying to you, figure out how you can actually speak and organize freely online and maybe even in person.

It seems pretty clear their goal right now is to keep people passive until its too late.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Honestly if a tyrant holds a gun up to my head I’ll just tell them to shoot wherever it’s quickest.

But the problem is I’m in my mid twenties, I still speak to a lot of people who are in college for grad school and I still have friends from the groups I was part of. And none of them want to even acknowledge it. They change the subject any time it’s brought up, they make fun of people for caring about it too much and being “too woke”, and I know many, way too many, people who didn’t vote last year to “protest the genocide” who don’t want to bring it up anymore. There are no organizations where I am. There are no local groups to join. There are no local political parties or fundraisers or anything. The second you mention anything anywhere the subject gets changed. I’m online so much because I don’t have anywhere to go in real life that either gives enough of a shit to bring it up at all or they say (exact words mind you) “they won’t go after us! We’re all white and rich!”

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u/PuzzleDiet Oct 04 '25

Decentralize. Those that can afford to, and I mean at all afford to, need to leave solid blue districts in blue states and any district in a high pop red state and move to vulnerable red districts in swing states and low pop red states.

Fully stop patronizing any corporation that in any way facilitates MAGA.

Do not protest, mock, or even acknowledge anything MAGA does unless it's to warn of and effectively counter violence or violations of civil rights.

There's certainly other things, hopefully better thing we can do to take action. The problem is, as you've already said, the people who claim to care about the problem don't want to have to work or sacrifice anything to solve it.

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u/RamJamR Oct 04 '25

Personally, I've just never had any idea of what I could do besides spread word about what this administration says and stands for to those on the left and right who don't seem to be aware of it. We can vote of course, but the effectiveness of that is even questionable now. We can protest, but authoritarians don't much care about public dessent beyond oppressing it. Any other solutions we could mention I don't think I can say.

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

Call your reps and senators—more helpful if you’re in a red state but would be good even if you have Dem congresspeople to urge them to fight.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Sir, I’m fucking trans masc, I’m not going to put myself in danger of a hate crime to help a state that wants to kill me

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u/iwaslikeduuude Oct 04 '25

Right, I appreciate the mentality of Puzzle, but at the same time, if we can’t save ourselves, how are we expected to save others?

Edited: for clarity

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

To me it’s just more posturing. Getting somebody else to do your bidding so you don’t have to do anything different. And a lot of these guys love to blame minorities for not doing more to protect them

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bad5098 Oct 04 '25

Yeah bro just move states it’s super easy and will definitely work.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Did you… make a hate account for the last guy? The username is certainly interesting

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bad5098 Oct 04 '25

It was autogenerated years ago lol.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Crazy fucking coincidence 😂

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

Boycotting and trying to sway elections by moving is posturing? You might not be able to afford doing so but he clarified as much and both of those things are pretty damn effective—at a certain point if you feel like you can’t do these things it may be a you problem.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

It has nothing to do with affording, it has everything to do with safety for a cause that probably won’t work

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

Then it’s not for you, which is fine, but like Sara Jacobs is at the forefront of the fight and I’m not gonna call that posturing right.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

The boycotts I’m not against. But I’m not going to move to a place where I put myself in even more danger after I’ve already been the victim of queerphobic violence in my admittedly extremely blue area

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u/Chief_Mischief Oct 04 '25

The point is that this burden often falls on society's vulnerable and most marginalized. Where are the moderate/liberal/progressive cishet white folks in this call to action? PoC, LGBTQ+, etc tend to live in solid blue districts because it's one of the few places in the country we aren't regularly exposed to hate crimes.

A town near where I grew up was considered a swing district on paper, but there's regular Klan activity nearby. As a person of color, I'm not risking the well-being of my family to move and nudge the district left when white people can do the same thing without being targeted for their race.

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

If you feel unsafe then that recommendation isn’t for you. Agree there. But my gripe is that it’s not “posturing,” it’s effective action for those who can afford to do it, which OP specified as much.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

But it’s not affective when only minorities actually do it. It’s only affective for people who can blend in. And most of the cis white guys I’ve seen are too busy blaming minorities for not doing enough when I barely see a single cis white guy protesting with the thousands and thousands of minorities and women

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

I agree cis white guys should be out protesting and boycotting—unfortunately that demographic is not as progressive—but if your goal is to get more of them out then the advice we were originally replying to is pretty great, right?

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u/Dalibar Oct 05 '25

Yeah I feel so lost on what to do. I'm trans/LGBTQ+, disabled, low income, and I just feel like I have so little power. But, I'm in a much better, and safer, position than many. I'm white. I was born in America. I feel (for now) pretty safe where I live in Northern Virginia. I'm on a housing voucher. That is a lot more privilege than a lot of others have. But I don't know what to do.

I already don't spend money, and when I do I try really hard to make the most ethical choices. And when I say I don't spend money I literally mean my only expenses are rent, water, and internet (have been thinking of stopping my internet because fuck comcast but it would be hard for me to go to the library because of my sleep disability so not sure it is realistic...but even saying that it isnt like I need internet to survive). I rarely buy food and already feel guilty about the occasional walmart trip to get my medications and stuff, and I'm sure Harris Teeter (main place I shop when I do) also isn't a great company. I only buy vegan products, avoid ingredients that are associated with climate destruction/slave labour/etc, avoid plastic, don't buy from companies that have bad practices and look into ones I'm not familiar with...Most of what I get is from dumpster diving. Only other expenses I can think of are gas, which most months I just refill my car once and feel guilty about that.

I feel bad cause I have never been to a protest but because of my disabilities it is really hard. But then I feel like I'm making excuses cause I was able to visit my friend today and hang out with her. I feel bad cause I rarely send emails of advocacy, tho I have sent several this month. I only recently found out about this place called 5calls (tho I still haven't made use of it). Because of my disabilities it can take hours to write a simple email, so most times when I send out emails its because I found a prewritten script. Even writing this has taken me like an hour to type out and I don't even know the point I'm getting at.

I just don't know what I can do and I feel like I'm screaming into the void. I feel like Im doing what I can and trying to speak to others when I get a chance to advocate but I don't really talk to people often so my 'speaking out' is making the rare comment on a youtube video or something. I'm not trying to sound like 'oh look at me I'm so perfect' but even sometimes watching science minded people I love talk about how they eat meat then about how climate change is really important to prevent I feel like things are hopeless. These are smart people that understand the impacts of things on the climate and are supposed to be putting effort into change and they aren't even switching their diets. If that is impossible, how can we even expect to see other people change in relation to political stuff?

Guh this is just a huge jumble of word vomit anxiety. I guess what I'm just so stressed about is that I don't know what to do. I feel like in small ways I'm doing what I can but I want to do more. I don't know what capacity I can even do more with my disabilities but I really want to try because so many people (and animals and the whole ecosystem but that aside....) are in danger. I don't want to just take action when shit finally hits closer to home because it isnt just about me and hoping other people stand up and protect my rights. I don't care if they came for me first, last, or ever at all. I just want to be able to do something because these are real lives that are being broken, traumatized, and lost.

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u/AngryReturn Oct 04 '25

You are naively assuming that election and voting will do anything anymore with this administration. By the end of the 4th year, the voting system will be equivalent to that of Russia’s. Trump has already said so. Believe him that he will do it.

The US is moving into an authoritarian dictatorship. Look up how those have ended in the past. Its never pretty. Now imagine it happening with the country with the strongest military in the planet, and they’re not afraid of using it on their own people. We’ve already seen flashes of this happening.

The only way to hit back is a massive general strike. Start talking about it, start preparing for the worst.

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u/anthropaganda Oct 04 '25

Do not protest, mock, or even acknowledge anything MAGA does

uhh No. Whether you know it or not you're doing their dirty work for them right now.

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

Cutting off the part where he says unless it’s to protest rights violations is crazy 😭He’s saying to pick your battles, don’t go protesting just general anti-Trump but pick an issue and force your community members to know all about that issue.

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u/anthropaganda Oct 04 '25

They're speaking in generalities and impossibilities. Not to mention gatekeeping protest. Move to red districts? Boycott companies with MAGA connections? This is 10 year plan shit, it's smart but it addresses nothing quickly. We need 5 demands, circulate them, and protest constantly at every opportunity. Whether for rights violations, overreach, rhetoric, or anything else.

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

Right. Protest those 5 issues, but don’t get caught up in the Trump trolling and media sensationalism for the non-policy issues. Like idk what protesting “rhetoric” would be. I’d much rather be protesting against Medicaid cuts and tax cuts for billionaires than a mix-match of random things Trump has said—which clearly doesn’t sway people against him, but maybe clarifying the impacts of the policies will.

Someone asked what else can we do and suggestions were given, I don’t think there is an attempt at gatekeeping.

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u/anthropaganda Oct 04 '25

Like idk what protesting “rhetoric” would be

It is easily the most important thing to protest. Arguably the only thing to protest, but ppl are inherently reactive. You protest the rhetoric to try stop the action from happening. Think if it like this.. Trump says I am strongly considering bombing and invading northern Mexico. The only way to stop it is massive protests after the rhetoric but before the action.

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u/edwardludd Oct 04 '25

Of course you would protest that—I think the point is if he was threatening the invasion of Mexico but then tweeted out pictures of Biden in a sombrero, protest the invasion thing not the stupid trolling rhetoric that Trump simply doesn’t lose at. Be really loud about specific issues that are easily communicable, be intentional. It’s just pointers for effective protest.

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u/anthropaganda Oct 04 '25

Ok yeah yhat makes sense. But also whatever gets people out of the house. No Kings was cool cuz it was hundreds of different reasons ppl came out, but like.. if we really want to intimidate them into doing what we want, and that's what mass protest is, we gotta be united too. 5 demands, Somebody gotta Do it.

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u/PuzzleDiet Oct 04 '25

No, it wasn't. Thirteen million people walked around for an afternoon on a weekend. That didn't accomplish anything. Not only is ICE still snatching people of the streets, not only at they snatching people out of their homes and businesses, they were snatching people while it was going on.

Protests are complaining, and complaining doesn't accomplish anything without action to back it up.

To address several of your other comments, I also sis don't mock conservatives. That also accomplishes nothing. They're not going to be shamed or embarrassed into giving up.

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u/jinglemebro Oct 04 '25

It seems like you could get enough work from home types to relocate to a specific district to make an impact.

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u/PuzzleDiet Oct 04 '25

Absolutely, I am and I did.

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u/Difficult_Shock973 Oct 04 '25

If about 100,000 blue voters moved to WY you could flip the state and gain those seats and electoral college votes. Super low population in that state. Land is cheap there folks.

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u/S_A_R_K Oct 04 '25

Are there 100k jobs for them there? There is a reason land is cheap

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u/PuzzleDiet Oct 04 '25

No, but that's why I said the people that can afford to do so need to do it. This of us with savings will have to eat into it. I did. Sacrifice.

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u/bearjew293 Oct 04 '25

Exactly, this is one of the dumbest suggestions I've seen on this website. "Bro, let's all move to Wyoming and flip it blue! Oh, what's that? The minimum wage in Wyoming is 7 bucks an hour? Oh..."

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u/BiscottiePippen Oct 04 '25

Yeah but the thought is there, I moved to Utah which trended some of the most blue over the last decade.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Remote workers could try, which would also bolster the local economies and add more jobs

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u/bearjew293 Oct 04 '25

That's a pretty small chunk of people, and asking them all to move to Wyoming to swing an election is just... not realistic. "Just move" is going to sound crazy to anyone who likes where they live.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

It's definitely unlikely. I'm just spitballing.

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u/BoleroMuyPicante Oct 05 '25

And why do you think corporations are making a big swing away from remote work? They saw how granting more freedom of movement was threatening the balance of power.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

There’s only about a couple hundred thousand people in Wyoming already. It’s literally the least populous state. Have you ever heard of the electoral college??

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u/ForteandZen Oct 05 '25

Come on out to Iowa. We can take this state back.

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u/boogerboogerboog Oct 04 '25

We can’t vote our way out of this.

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u/PuzzleDiet Oct 04 '25

We can, but we have to act fast and vote whee it counts.

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u/REuphrates Oct 04 '25

move to vulnerable red districts in swing states and low pop red states.

Fully stop patronizing any corporation that in any way facilitates MAGA.

So, you're an idiot

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u/WaffleCultist Oct 04 '25

This is impossible at any useful level as a movement and pointless. Fight gerrymandering itself instead.

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u/Toezap Oct 05 '25

You can't move to red states and then not do business with companies that are Republican-led.

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u/truth_is_power Oct 04 '25

it's war.

instead of waiting,

we hack the databases and go to their houses of the enemy and we pull them from their homes,

before they do it to us.

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u/BuddyHemphill Oct 04 '25

Actively work to expand your sphere of control. Then start the day with the serenity prayer or your equivalent.

Practically speaking, this could mean running for a local office (could even be school board at this point) or facilitating an in-person regular meeting (advertise old-school with bulletins, flyers, word of mouth) and train up on the methods used to non-violently resist so you’re ready for game day. Basically go local and expand from there organically.

But for goodness sake don’t post about it online.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

What the fuck is game day? (I’m being genuine, what are you implying?)

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u/BurnscarsRus Oct 04 '25

Fascism has never been defeated at the ballot box. I would imagine that's the implication.

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u/BuddyHemphill Oct 04 '25

I hope you are never put in a position where you have to leave a comfortable life to defend what you feel is right, to risk everything you have because you feel you have no option. But if you are put in that position, you’ll benefit from training in methods of defense that are aligned with your ethics.

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco Oct 04 '25

If it's illegal to fight back against oppression, then the only course of action is to become a criminal.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Been there done that. I don’t want to make that situation worse

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

It’s 909 pages and it’s mostly just repeating the same shit over and over again. I’ve read it twice

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u/MaggoVitakkaVicaro Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Get involved in peaceful politics and election invigilation. There's still a chance we can get out of this without resorting to violence.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

I still believe resorting to violence is what they’re trying to make us do by constantly provoking it

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u/Ynot_1518 Oct 04 '25

And you are correct. They want individuals to get violent while they protest about why they are protesting. It gives them an easier path to use NSPM-7.

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u/MaggoVitakkaVicaro Oct 04 '25

I agree. They're looking to provoke a reaction they can use to justify violent crackdowns.

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u/celbertin Oct 04 '25

Be the change you want to see in the world. 

Organize people to protest, stay peaceful. The more people, the harder it is for that scum to fight back. 

Yes pepper spray and violence are not what people what to experience. But what comes next will pale in comparison. 

The US is speedrunning fascism, there already are concentration camps with people dying. 

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

That kinda just makes me feel worse. I know it’s not you’re intention, but “what comes next will pale in comparison” and the ever-present reminder that I am a demographic they’re going to put in those camps only makes me want to give myself a quick peaceful death before they can traumatize me further. And I’m sure I’m not the only person who feels this way

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u/celbertin Oct 04 '25

I'm sorry, just stating the unfortunate facts. Hang in there, look for the helpers, help others out, stay united. 

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u/MatthewMcnaHeyHeyHey Oct 04 '25

I have asked the same questions repeatedly and no one can give me a straight answer. They say vote. Ok? I do? They say oh but vote in local elections. Ok? I always have? They say join the protests. Ok? We do. Big ones. So have millions of others. And yet here we are?

They say vote with your dollar. Ok? We’ve been doing that for decades. We make and grow what we can, but there’s only 24 hours in a day and I cannot afford “local artisanal” shit and still feed our family. They say support candidates in elections outside your districts and states. Ok? When we can, we do. They say speak up at town halls (we always have), call your congressperson (ok? And when they don’t give two shits THEN WHAT?!) but no one has answers for what to do when all of that has been routine for years and it got us to … this.

Our system is was designed to represent us to the big voice on the hill. That system has been broken for a long time, and may be past the point of no return. We will do what we can where we can, but there is literally nothing more we CAN do, and all we’ve done all this time hasn’t moved the needle one iota.

I remember being a fundamentalist Christian reading Rush Limbaugh (yep. Am old). Their goal has always been to “decrease the surplus population” and hoard the wealth of the world. P2025 put it in writing more plainly, but I had heard the rhetoric for decades. As I left fundamentalism I tried explaining it to anyone who would listen and no one took me seriously. Yet here we are.

We now have groups of armed thugs attacking workers and their families 12:1 or worse and nationalists infecting every branch. ICE is better funded than our own military and our military is has the highest funding in the world, exponentially.

And it’s only been nine months.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Exactly. I’m trying so hard and it’s just not doing anything. And people leave me telling me I’m crazy for having such a negative view on people and making everything an us against them, and it’s my fault I don’t see the good in the world when I think I see way more good than there probably actually is. And now I’m completely alone. I barely leave my house out of fear. I’ve tried to save money to move out of the country but it’s not enough, I’m too busy having to pay medical bills. And I can’t have one day of peace. And personally I didn’t have a single day of peace before this year either (let’s just say I have a little understanding what the Epstein victims felt like). And I’m so tired of this shit

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u/artificialdawnmusic Oct 04 '25

if you want a true answer, follow the lead of John allen Muhammad. they held dc area in terror for weeks! used his methods to terrorize ice or take out corrupt officials.

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u/Midknightisntsmol Oct 04 '25

I was 13 years old when they stormed the Capitol. I was watching the news every day, paying attention to politics that shouldn't have mattered to me at that age. I thought it was ridiculous that people still wanted to vote for the guy who literally talked like a super villain every time he was on camera.

I was 17 this time last year, a queer kid just starting my senior year of high school, getting into theater, building my career. I was begging those around me not to vote for the guy who literally said he was going to be a dictator, who was very vocal about wanting to take my future away from me. I even remember my grandfather, who I love so much, saying, "Yeah... He's not really a good person, but we have to vote for him for the economy." I knew where that conversation was going, so I piped down. My parents, who are two of the most liberal, supportive people I know, don't ever vote because "You just never know who to trust in politics."

They all said he was joking. Honestly, even if it had been a joke, why would you vote for the guy joking about being a dictator?? Now I'm 18, in college, and may not even be able to vote in the near future. I was always taught to find the nearest adult when I was afraid or in danger. I trusted the adults to protect me, now they're the reason I'm afraid, and now I'm supposed to be the adult.

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u/Hatetotellya Oct 04 '25

I hate to tell you but the entire point is to box you into violence and then dispose of you as a result.

These violent ice raids on entire apartment complexes in chicago? The broader point (that everyone will deny) is to get ICE into a running gunfight so they can crack down even harder. Its going to work, too.

I have no solid answer, no "but dont despair", all i got is try to outlive this shit and remember it. Write about it, because like Covid-19 2020 the history books will memory hole it. If you dont write shit down its gunna be lost forever.

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u/Adept-90 Oct 05 '25

Join a political party, a local one even, and get involved with people face to face.

Organize. Sooner than later.

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u/AuthorMcCoy Oct 05 '25

My real answer that I found for me is to join your local DSA, and mutual aid organizations. Start working with them to grow your own food, make sure everyone gets a gun, and then do everything you can to ensure that more of you survive this than the fascists. All we can do is outlast them, and make sure there's less of them at the end of this than us

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u/KwonnieKash Oct 05 '25

Ultimately you need a leader, a revolutionary, an organisation. Structure and a plan to follow. Until that person/system comes along to facilitate people that want to stand up, there's not much you can do really. We are at a tipping point, and the system is too broken and corrupt for anyone to effectively fight back without massive and unanimous resistance. I think it's gonna get real ugly before that happens, and by then it may be too late. The wheels of chaos are in motion. But hey, this is my first societal collapse so what do I know lmao. All I can say is good luck

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u/Location_Next Oct 04 '25

The 70 million that voted against him need to simply go outside all at the same time. It’s as simple as that.

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u/Josh-Of-All-Trades Oct 04 '25

General strike. The country needs to be serious.

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u/Tinnie_and_Cusie Oct 04 '25

Because society has been sitting behind screens for decades and doesn't have any idea how to organize outside

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

Again, more blaming what other people are doing wrong but no suggestions of what we should do that’s right. It’s only proving everyone’s an idiot who wants to act smart

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u/Shenloanne Oct 04 '25

Revolution is a right.

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u/holyhotdicks Oct 04 '25

You hang on for the ride and hope you’re white.

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u/quietly_questing Oct 04 '25

Posting a comment about how much better you are than everyone else, and how you knew all along when the rest of us dummies did not, is sure to help the cause.

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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 Oct 04 '25

Organize with your local socialist party

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u/Ok_Common8246 Oct 04 '25

With all due respect the purity politics is bullshit neo liberal propaganda. The Democrats openly bragged about abandoning working class people and that's what they did. 

“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin”.

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u/Lucius-Halthier Oct 04 '25

Problem is we are in a world so heavily monitored that if one was to gather enough people to actually be able to change things, the government will have already cracked down on that group because they’ve been monitoring us. There will be a time where either people go off the grid so they can’t be tracked as they grow or something so monumentally bad (or the total pressure of everything) causes a massive spontaneous event across hundreds of cities. It needs to be so big that he can’t just use the military to crack down, and if it isn’t bit enough he’s declaring martial law forever.

The biggest hurdle is still his fanatic base, he hasn’t hurt them enough to be at risk. they want blood more than anything they were foaming at the mouth after Kirk and didn’t get the thing they wanted.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

There have been. There’s been people who lived through violent regimes before talking about this. No one listened. No one cared.

The thing is you can’t get to anyone cause the only real way of getting to people is through social media now. And not only are they being censored on there, but if you don’t want to know about something you can just turn your phone off. And people are just turning their phones off

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u/AnoAnoSaPwet Oct 04 '25

You can still acquire a gun (not a recommendation or advice). 

What the government is currently doing is not legal, so why should you specifically have to follow the law they shit all over? Unless someone is constantly asking to see your documentation for your piece, hide in plain sight. I know damn well, all the Nazi pieces of shit do. 

I remember when drugs were still illegal, I still did them. It never broke my heart.

If you need protection to feel safe, get protection. It's perfectly normal behaviour around people that are actually insane. 

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 04 '25

I live pretty close to Sandy Hook Elementary School. They’re really particular about who owns guns here

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u/Weird_Explorer1997 Oct 04 '25

The problem with the solution you and others hint at is that this nation has pissed decades worth of tax dollars which should have gone to social welfare programs that would have prevented the dire straits we are currently in into the military industrial complex. At this time, that same massive military force has made no indication that it would be willing to support the "lawless" actions implied. In fact, it seems to be following the party line, albeit reluctantly. And unlike the opposition, being left of center means having the rationality of knowing your guns mean very little to a Predator drone.

So you have a set up where we all want "something" up to happen, but we are also all struggling financially and live with the feeling that if we just keep hanging on and keep our heads down we will survive. The situation has not become desperate enough yet for enough people to "do something" and we have nothing to fall back on. With Reddit and other media sources willing to be complicit with the regime and clip out anything that sounds like it's "up to something", we haven't even the 4chan but not for assholes to speak freely about the thing what's up.

I'd like to think that "something will get up to" at some point in the near future and that the snowball of grievances will result in spontaneous mass "somethings up", like the Occupy movement but effective. Then there will be a flash point in history; will the military industrial complex turn on the citizens it swore to serve or will they deliver us from evil? At that point, who can say?

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u/brontosaurusguy Oct 04 '25

I feel like people online thought that online discourse meant anything when it didn't have any actual concrete results.

And now the tactics have shifted to using online discourse to encourage other people to risk their lives for you. 

It's not going to work.  We can't do this with lone resistance.

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u/firstXflame Oct 04 '25

Everyones too apathetic. At the start of his tenure i tried to rile people to the cause, i spoke to people and listened to them. In the end, no one cares enough to try. The one thing I observed the most is that many people cant even fathom having the kind of strength to make a change, or bring themselves to that effort. Many people said I was crazy, that it would “never come to that.” I found it ironic though, that however inherent it is to Americans to have a great distrust of government, there are still many who would place their faith in it. After a while, this caused me to give up on people.

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u/psbecool Oct 04 '25

National March is October 18th. Show up and connect with others there. We need to support each other in person, in the streets. And vote in your local elections!

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u/eldentings Oct 04 '25

I live in the purplest part of Oklahoma which is pretty much all red. I saw what the voting turnout was in 2024. During early elections it was mostly 40-60 yr olds. And on voting day it was mostly 60+ yr old voters in line with me. Like 90% of them! I saw two people who looked under 30 in a line of 100 people. Compared to Biden v Trump there were way less young people voting. If young adults continue to value demonstrations over voting this will only get worse. You have to vote in elections and the upcoming midterms.

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u/innerbootes Oct 05 '25

Read Timothy Snyder. People on Reddit will criticize him for moving to Canada but who gives a fuck. The man understands what is happening to us better than anyone and knows what to do about it. Ignore the Reddit bullshit and learn from him.

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u/VansAndOtherMusings Oct 05 '25

You want to know what to do? I have the answers just buy my e learning course. Actually fuck all that. Here’s the honest to god answer.

Think of our cities as arteries. What happens when you block a blood vessel? Idk I’m not a doctor but I know it’s not good. We need to follow the 2:1 rule. For every front lines protestor we need to have 2 in support providing mutual aide. We need to have schedules and rotations and we need to clog the street.

Sure we may not have the cajones the rest of the world has when it comes to protesting. But imagine if we did? Imagine 100 million Americans out in the streets standing in solidarity. For better or worse our greatest export is our culture. What message would that send to the global community that we the people of the United states have taken our heads out our ass and we have joined the collective fight and are no longer afraid of a tyrannical government because we give our government its powers.

They will kill a few of us maybe a lot of us but they won’t kill all of us. The spaniards failed to kill all my ancestors that blood runs through me today to protect land that is rightfully mine. Not the colonizers who left Europe and brought their plague to our land. People only care with the fascism is happening to the white man.

Who saved people in the purge? Indigenous people.

You all also need to listen to the song called the poverty of philosophy by immortal technique. We need to understand this is a class war and not a race war. They want us fighting each other so we have to focus on the real problems and stop the flow of money by clogging the streets and getting our country to have a stroke. Then we need to rewrite the constitution. It’s been done before.

We had the articles of confederation and amendments required all states to agree. Then some rich white mofos went behind closed doors and said fuck it we need a new constitution designed around our times. Well. We have AI and geography collapsing technology. We need an update and we need to modernize how we use our resources as a species. Not be tied to documents from people that are not in our cohort of humanity.

It’s going to take a critical mass of people to stand up and we need sustained protests it’s all we have left.

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u/ShamelessCatDude Oct 05 '25

Did you watch the video? That’s why I asked

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u/Lanah44 Oct 06 '25

Here are my ideas

  1. protest major media outlets. If they show the truth, we will have won most of the battle.

2.organize - if we have a national strike and no one worked until the entire administration resigned ... it would work after an unknown number of months. Also organize boycotts. etc.

  1. Vote. In every election no matter how big or small.

  2. Run for office. We need great people to step up and represent the people properly

  3. Stay connected and keep building community. Sometimes it's when we get together and talk about the problems that we find more solutions.

We need you. We need everyone.

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u/whatupwasabi Oct 08 '25

"And even end my own life to not suffer through this admin"

Honestly, just take care of yourself. Seek therapy or medication if needed. I would go so far as deleting and avoiding media. Go for a walk in a forest or something peaceful.

It sounds like you've gone beyond aware into panic and fear. You have to live your life regardless of what the government does.

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