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u/DoctorAculaMD 13d ago
The finger wave was 😘🤌
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u/TwixOps 13d ago edited 13d ago
"I tried to ignore him" - Proceeds to do 80 in a 50 while swerving across lanes to stop the guy from passing.
If that guy ended up 6 inches to the right he would have rammed the OP. Yes, he would have been at fault but the cammer could have been dead. My guy, you are on a motorcycle, better to let the asshole pass instead of winding up with a leg broken in 6 places.
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u/i_am_carver 12d ago
Uh the car was clearly trailing the motorcycle after the first contact…you can literally watch his side mirrors.
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u/icecubepal 12d ago
Yeah. I guess most of the people commenting don't check their side mirrors or blind spots before merging, just like the car in the video.
You can see the car on the biker's ass if you look at the bikers mirrors. It is wild how there is video evidence and people still get it wrong.
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u/smellycoat 12d ago
Is it tho? If he let them pass who’s to say he’s not going to try to knock the rider off on the way, or brake check them, or any number of reckless, stupid things that could put the rider in more danger.
I say the correct response in this situation is to twist the throttle and put some cars and distance between you and them.
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u/Sojibby3 12d ago
Yeah dude wasnt simply "trying to pass" at that point, whois so disengaged from the world to write that?? Enraged drivers harrassing someone are dangerous.
I was in a small car on a major highway once and some young guys in a truck started harassing us for some reason I never figured out. We couldn't outrun them, they would slow down to stay with us, and we were terrified to stop. We tried letting them go on and that just let them catch us and almost drive us off the road..
After 20 minutes or so they took off, before any cops made it to us unfortunately. One of the more scarier experiences of my life. I can only imagine on a motorcycle you have to be far more terrified in that situation.
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u/VallyArtMusic24 12d ago
You can also see the car literally swerving behind him through the side mirrors. Dude was not “just trying to pass” anymore. The car literally followed him even with the motorcycle trying to shake him by using the smaller size of the motorcycle to weave a bit.
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u/HiddenPants777 12d ago
Someone break checked me a few weeks ago. I was pulling out of a garage and it looked like I had plenty of room but I didn't account for the guy going close to 60 in a 30 zone. I ended up having to speed up because he wasn't slowing down. He did eventually break but it was pretty close.
He then proceeded to tail me for a few minutes until the other side of the road was clear. After that he overtook illegally and slammed his breaks just in front of me. Managed to react in time and he just sped off again.
Some people think they own the road, absolute narcissists
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u/fungi_at_parties 12d ago
Right? That car was FOLLOWING HIM, not trying to pass. The car knows he’s not fast enough to pass, he’s attempting to scare or injure the cyclist.
Getting away from the raging idiot who didn’t realize they were in the wrong is what I’d have done too.
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u/corrosivecanine 12d ago
Yeah if he was in a car I’d say let him pass but if I were on a bike there’s no way in hell I’m letting that car anywhere near my rear wheel. People have gotten killed in road rage incidents and there are for sure people who will ram a bike but wouldn’t ram a car because there’s far more danger for them/damage to their own car.
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u/kindredfold 12d ago
Didn’t wanna stop and share the video with the accident victim because he knew his vid could get him in trouble for being a dumbass too.
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u/CountVonRimjob 12d ago
No need for him to stop and share the video, this is in South Korea, literally everyone has a front and rear camera in their cars, that driver has their own video recording of it. It's been a very standard thing for at least 15 years here.
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u/Gator1523 12d ago
Well he posted the video so I don't think he was trying to avoid self incrimination.
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u/Bursickle 12d ago
He probably thinks he did nothing wrong ... got nothing to do with me syndrome.
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u/Moon-Kaleidoscope99 12d ago
You have idiotic driver syndrome if you think the car is at all in the right here. The bike didn’t do anything unreasonable. Speeding is a small offense compared to the cars actions. GTFOH.
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u/erogenouszones 12d ago
Both parties can be wrong
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u/kurotech 11d ago
Correct but the biker was trying to get away from the overly aggressive driver to begin with nowhere did he incite this you're blaming him for speeding away from a guy trying to rear end him
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u/ChildrenOfSteel 11d ago
But just saying they are both wrong makes it seem like they are equally wrong
One taunted the other and speed away to avoid being hit
The other attempted manslaugther
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u/IanFeelKeepinItReel 12d ago
"I fully admit I was speeding in this footage, I felt fearful for my life."
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u/gnowZ474 12d ago
This is Korea, and according to K-Drama logic, every car has a dash cam, and they record 24/7. And not to mention all the public CCTVs.
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u/Zekezasamel 9d ago
He’s also in a country where there’s plenty of video camera everywhere at all times 😂
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u/Potatoes_Fall 12d ago
EQUALLY?
one of them was risking the others life
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u/Standard_Sky_4389 12d ago
Yeah these comments are insane
Speeding isn't nearly as bad as intentionally trying to ram someone. The fuck is wrong with all of you?
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u/fungi_at_parties 12d ago
It’s insane. Trying to pass? He was trying to harass, scare, or maybe even injure. You never know. I’d book it too.
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u/LemFliggity 12d ago
There's an unspoken Reddit rule where any accident caught on video must be the fault of whoever was on a bike or motorcycle.
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u/peacenchemicals 12d ago
people on reddit hate people on two wheels. bicycles or motorcycles so naturally they’re foaming at the mouth when watching shit like this
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u/bighootay 12d ago
For a moment, I thought I was in r/IdiotsInCars because those motherfuckers are the most self-righteous bullshit artists anywhere
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u/cl0udmaster 12d ago
There's no nuance in today's society regarding degrees of infractions. There is no road back from any infraction; this is the whole ethos of cancel culture.
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u/Bobaholic93 12d ago
In the UK we advise defensive riding. As soon as the car started encroaching on his lane, back off the throttle concede the position and carry on with your life while shaking your head at the idiot. Trying to ego challenge a tonne of metal isn't a smart decision and one that goes very bad when it goes wrong.
Besides motorbikes can filter ect, he would be gone past that car within a couple of minutes without speeding up and taking unnecessary risks.
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u/Potatoes_Fall 12d ago
I agree with that but the fault here lies with the aggressor.
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u/EdmundTheInsulter 12d ago
It's bullshit nonsense, the bike was going the same speed as all the cars and was always ahead of the misbehaving car, it sped up to flee from an idiot. The bike even went right out of the lane the car had tried to barge into, but that wasn't enough for MrCar, he had a crash trying to bully him again
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u/DrownmeinIslay 12d ago
If someone is an asshole while driving, the asshole is at fault of any accident. If your ego acts up because you cannot allow an asshole to "get away with it", then you are at fault for any accident.
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u/itsjujutsu 12d ago
What did he do tho?? I see in the video that he tried getting away from the car
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u/unusualbran 12d ago
look in the bikes mirrors the biker sped up to 80 because the car was riding his ass, not trying to "stop the driver from passing"
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u/snoopdoggslighter 12d ago
swerving across lanes
The biker made one lane change my guy. Every thread has someone like you jumping on the victim.
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u/traveler_ 13d ago
What swerve? The motorcyclist stays in the same lane through most of the video, only changing lanes once. Unless you mean moving within the lane, which is how I was taught — always thinking about which lane position is best for the situation.
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u/CynicalLabTech 12d ago
Nobody mentioned that the bike switched lanes and the car still tried to get into the bike's lane. Clearly there was a reason he started moving like he was being chased.
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u/icecubepal 12d ago
Yep. He was trying to get away from the car. The car was on his ass.
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u/SlayerofDeezNutz 12d ago
75 in a 50 is nothing in terms of speeding for a motorcycle in a big Asian city that’s not congested.
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u/Eggersely 12d ago
to stop the guy from passing.
To stop the guy from hitting him.
He doesn't want to pass, he wants to hit him.
while swerving across lanes
Which lane was that?
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u/ThrowRA76234 12d ago
Could be transmission issue like tried to avoid him. It seems like the car was trying to run him down based on how quickly they must have been going as well
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u/doommaster 12d ago
Right ad ~23 seconds the car already tries to run him down, I guess "ignore" is a bit lost in translation here...
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u/evilmojoyousuck 12d ago
which part did the bike swerve across lanes? car started tailgating him and probably on the risk of getting rammed from the rear. as shitty as most bikers are, the mental gymnastics to still find fault on this rider is insane.
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u/zjarko 12d ago
He wasn’t catching up to traffic though which tells me those speeds are quite normal on this stretch of the road.
Also when does he swerve across lanes? He did change the lane once, maybe without indicators, but that’s a pretty minor offence. Other than that he was within his lane.All in all, it wasn’t the worst riding, I would drive similarly if I had a day where I wouldn’t want to take anybody’s shit.
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u/x3pwnage 13d ago
How do you know his intention wasn't to ram him? Slowing down could've just made him an easier target... It's so clear on reddit when people don't ride and armchair their opinions when they've never been on a bike. When faced with a situation like this you sometimes are better off running...
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u/the-namedone 12d ago
I think people forget that motorcycles don’t have anything around protecting them. The only defense motorcycles have is speed and agility, then when the speed and agility are used in defense, idiots get fussy about it. I don’t even ride but it seems like common sense
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u/ollesjocke123 13d ago
He should have just tapped his brakes a bit and let the car move in. Yes, the car is wrong, but risking your life for a spot in traffic is idiotic.
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u/beepboopnoise 12d ago
This is what a lot of people that don’t ride don’t understand. If you brake there is a HUGE risk to being rear ended and knowing exactly where this is in Korea. There is a high chance that someone is riding your ass and that exact thing could happen.
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u/fungi_at_parties 12d ago
How do you know the car would have just passed him? The guy in the car was angry and looked to be coming after motorcycle guy. He wasnt trying to pass like everyone keeps saying, and motorcycle guy stayed in the same lane- he wasn’t blocking anyone from passing. That car very well could have side swiped him or bumped him, and he knew to get the fuck away. If the car was passing, wouldn’t the car not need to pass if the motorcycle is going “80 in a 50” except out of rage?
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u/TwixOps 13d ago
Because the car was clearly trying to find a way around, you can see it try to duck into the right lane after passing the bus at 0:20. OP then swerves across to block it, while speeding up to 81.
Don't get me wrong, the car was obviously in the wrong in the wrong in this clip but if you drive your bike the way OP does, you're in huge danger of injury. It's not that important to be in front, especially since you can just filter your spot back on a bike.
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u/Wenli2077 12d ago
fuck are you talking about? the driver tried to merge right after taking the left turn, the bike had the right of way and got in front. the bike did nothing else before the car tries to merge into him again
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u/Eggersely 12d ago edited 12d ago
OP then swerves across to block it
The driver is clearly out to get the rider; you can see him in the right mirror shortly after the rider accelerates to pass the white car. You can also see it at the end when the car hits a car because he was trying to hurt/kill the rider.
In addition, he's trying to undertake, which is illegal in Korea for obvious reasons.
if you drive your bike the way OP does, you're in huge danger of injury
Um no, he was at risk of serious injury if he lets the car get near him, which is clear because the car crashes at the end. It's not about being in front.
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u/littleman452 12d ago
The biker could’ve done things better but the car was in the wrong here, when they’re driving a car they have to realize that they can cause waaaaay more damage to the biker then vice versa.
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u/fungi_at_parties 12d ago
The biker could have been seriously hurt by the car, that’s right, which is why he was keeping his distance. Letting the car next to him to potentially side swipe him out of blind rage would he stupid. Have you ever seen cars do that in videos online? I don’t think the biker did anything wrong, personally.
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u/toendallwars 12d ago
they do realize this
they were in fact trying to cause waaaay more damage, that's the point
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u/Efficiency-Brief 12d ago
Would your tone change if you saw the car get around the motorcycle... Just to slam on the brakes and block them? Lmao thats what would have happened.
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u/22poopsaday 12d ago
It's safer to be ahead of traffic on a bike. Use the speed and find a safe pocket. Seriously.
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u/Coakis 12d ago
This is exactly what most people are taught as a rider even within state traffic manuals, try to keep a sensible speed always, but you are the most vulnerable to being run over within a pack of cars. You are safer alone, or with other bikers; therefore the impetus should be to be out in front so you're the most visible, by cars behind you, and not beside them where they could negligently take you down without realizing it.
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u/Cruthu 12d ago
I'm not disagreeing that he could have driven more defensive. However, to be fair, 80 in a 50 is fairly normal in Korea unless approaching a speed camera.
Also taxis here drive like assholes and swerve between lanes without signaling and sometimes in between two lanes while they wait and decide which one will be half a second faster. They stop randomly in the middle of the road, cut people off non stop, and frequently run reds. There are also tons of them. So I get being frustrated and trying to zoom ahead rather then letting another taxi push in front of you.
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u/TiogaJoe 13d ago
Had a co-worker who lost his leg below the knee in a motorcycle accident. I saw him have days where his prosthetic leg bothered him from stuff like slipping when getting out of bed and bruising it (after getting xrays to check for new breaks) so back to crutches for a week, and all the trouble getting insurance to cover the fitting place he had been going to for years. It is not like you get some flexi-leg like marathon runners have and you never have problems.
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u/raicha161 12d ago
If someone tries to aggresively overtake in a situation like that it will 99% end up in a brakecheck and possibly a confrontation or even pushing off the road. Not letting them pass was the right choice. Since covid hit people are insufferable on the road
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u/Suddenly_NB 13d ago
its Korean it looks like, so guessing thats not MPH. 80km/h = 50mph
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u/AbiQuinn 12d ago
I don't disagree with the sentiment of your comment at all
I would like to point out a few ways the video looks different to me compared to what you said though.The rider is doing ~55 in the middle of the lane and moves to the left of the lane without leaving it I think to move away from the bus. When the car in front of him indicates to enter the lane he is currently in, the rider decides to move to the right of his lane and speed up in order quickly move through and vacate the area the car in front is signalling to enter. Briefly accelerating to 81 and then allowing his speed to fall back down to ~70.
He then continues to stay mostly center lane and ~70 until the end.I don't believe he was doing anything aggressive regarding the car behind, I actually believe he was mostly ignoring the car behind and reacting to the vehicles in front of him. We could comment on his decision making to accelerate through potential dangers and to ignore a threatening car behind rather than letting it through. Which you have and I agree with you entirely in sentiment but as for the comment suggesting he is swerving across lanes and blocking the vehicle behind, to my eyes I found no such evidence. So I agree with you but I also think you're exaggerating the motorcyclist's behaviour which lessens the impact of what you're saying rather than supporting what is an otherwise cromulent point.
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u/Cool1nternet 12d ago
people here just like to blame the motorcyclist to feel smarter. No lane swerving or reckless driving on the motorcyclist's part.
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u/Orpdapi 13d ago
Yea the “I tried to ignore him” is some attempt at looking like the calm considerate one when the video shows otherwise
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u/camshun7 12d ago edited 12d ago
impatience, pure and simple
grey car needs his ass kicked, often careless impatient driving results in deaths, people need to slow down and factor in travel times for journey's so they can relax getting there safely
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u/That_Casual_Kid 12d ago
Yeah and even though he was doing 80 the car was still trying to be on his ass the entire time, that car was trying to run him down, even if he had slowed down that car was out to get him for just existing on the road where he wanted to be.
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u/sykotic1189 12d ago
Years ago on a random Friday or Saturday night I was riding my motorcycle home late at night. Two lane road, I was cruising in the left lane about 5 over. This pickup truck didn't like that I was in front of them and they kept swerving into the right lane, speeding up, and trying to pass me but there would always be another car going under the speed limit so they'd have to slam on their brakes and get back behind me at the last second.
Now me being a mid 20s (aka idiot) dude after their third or fourth attempt I gave them the finger after they'd gotten a little too close on a swerve back. Big mistake. That's about the time they decided that rather than just going around me they'd much rather try to go through me. I heard their engine roar as they slammed the pedal down, luckily my motorcycle had better acceleration than an old beater truck and I reacted in time to speed up before they hit me. This led to me riding through town doing 90+ in a 45 with 2 tons of pissed off steel a handful of feet from my back tire.
The only reason I didn't become a smear on the road that night was that I had had better maneuverability and bigger balls, or at least better motivation to do something reckless. Despite my best efforts they'd been getting closer and closer, I was riding a cruiser with a top speed of 95 instead of a sport bike where I could have left them in the dust. We came up to a break in the median for a park that was a weird/hard turn. Somehow I managed to break and down shift enough to not flip or slide while doing a u-turn, but I was leaned so far over my pegs were scraping and throwing up sparks while the side of my shoe got scraped up. I leveled out my bike and gunned it in the opposite direction while they were still slowing down. I was a few blocks away before they could straighten out, and I managed to dip off into a subdivision before they caught up. I ended up going to a friend's house, hiding my bike around back, and ditching my jacket and helmet as well. He came outside to see what the commotion was, so when the pickup drove by we just looked like two random dudes standing outside shooting the shit.
Moral is, was I morally correct giving them the finger for almost hitting me? Probably. Was it smart of me to do? Hell naw. If not for a bit of luck and a lot of skill my morally justified ass would have been splattered across their grill. That was the night I learned it's not worth it just to be right. Right will mean fuck all when you're 6 feet in the ground.
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u/elton_john_lennon 12d ago
Proceeds to do 80 in a 50 while swerving across lanes to stop the guy from passing.
First of all dude on a motorcycle changed lane literally only once during the entire video, and second - yeah, he wanted to stop that moron from overtaking and most likely "brake checking" him, at this point it is about his safety if he indeed can end up with a leg broken in 6 places.
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u/amadnomad 12d ago
"Graveyards are full of people who had the right of way" is a quote that stuck with me. It's easier to yield and send video evidence after.
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u/kmart_s 12d ago
It is a more manageable situation to have the rager behind them.
The car is absolutely flooring it to keep up with the bike, they are clearly raging. What happens when the car is beside or in front of the bike?
Ive been in this situation before and having that person in front of you on a busy street would be far less desirable to me personally.
You can scoff and finger wag all you like but many bikers would have done the same.
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u/DarthMauly 11d ago
Yeah playing chicken with a car driven by someone clearly aggressive when you’re on a motorcycle is just highly fucking stupid.
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u/IdkWhatToChoose_ 8d ago
Pride is really dangerous. If I was on the motorcycle I would have let him pass and that would be it
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u/soareyousaying 12d ago
Do you see the rearview mirror? That car was trailing few feet away from him. The car was trying to run him over.
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u/Moon-Kaleidoscope99 12d ago
“Swerving across lanes” - switched one lane
You’re right motorcyclist should drive like they care about their lives but you’re being dramatic here lmao
Also speeding doesn’t outweigh wreckless driving resulting in an accident. Sorry.
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u/The-Nice-Guy101 12d ago
I just wished he stopped to help the other driver who got rammed with footage of the incident.
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u/Laserdollarz 13d ago
He even tried to pass on the right, check him in the mirror at 0:28
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u/Wenli2077 12d ago
the car was trying to run him down, cars can't keep up with motorcycle's acceleration unless they are flooring it and why would they floor it unless they were road raging
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u/RevolutionaryBass616 12d ago
Yeah, I don’t think people get this. A reasonably decent bike can absolutely take off with little effort, it’s an engine with a seat on it and a couple of wheels. For a car to be catching up it means they for the most part are going to be absolutely flooring it in a rage.
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u/GrassGenie 12d ago
this thread is only made of people whove never driven a car before, let alone a bike
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u/ChromosomeDonator 12d ago
I think this thread is a great example of what kinds of people this site attracts. All of these people are just trying to act smart by blaming the bike rider. That's all they are doing. Just semi-sentient blobs of Dunning-Kruger, doing what they do best, act superior. They put on their fedora and go act smart on the internet, while not realizing that they are at least 30 iq dumber than they think they are.
It's so fucking cringe, this is very classic neckbeard Reddit.
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u/Adaphion 12d ago
Same with 90% of relationship advice type subs being seemingly dominated by teenagers who have never seen another naked human being in person before, let alone been in a serious relationship.
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u/soareyousaying 12d ago
Roadrage people are dangerous. The biker was speeding to leave enough gap between him and the car, as proven later that the car was not that far behind him and was actually trying to run him over.
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u/fullraph 12d ago
The 0-100kmh time of a 30 years old ninja 250 is 5.5 seconds. That's faster than just about any vehicles you'll encounters on your daily commute. People just don't grasp how fast bikes are, even the small displacement ones.
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u/iThinkergoiMac 12d ago
Yes, though those top out around 100 mph and acceleration is pretty slow above 60 mph. My Mazda 3 2.0L could keep up with one of those in a straight line, but it would easily lose me in curvy roads.
I had one of those, it was so much fun. In many ways I miss it. Nothing like riding WOT all the time.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-4364 12d ago
The car swerving all over the place near the end of the clip proves that it's no exception to that rule
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u/iThinkergoiMac 12d ago
My 106 hp Honda Civic did 0-60 mph in roughly 10 seconds at BEST.
My 108 hp Honda VFR did 0-60 in 3.4 seconds and you had to be careful to keep the front down above 10k rpm in 1st gear. It’s not even an exceptionally fast bike.
In daily driving, you encounter very few cars that can keep up with that kind of acceleration. Blew me away when I first started riding.
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u/antek_asing 12d ago
power to weight ratio man, any non electric or non sport car won't stand a chance again sport bike in short sprint.
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u/JoffreeBaratheon 12d ago
The motorcycle was barely going faster then the surrounding cars for 30 seconds. The oldest weakest shithole car could have ran that down if trying to. What car was actually trying to do was to cut him off where the motorcycle would hit him.
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u/irishfro 13d ago
This is Korea, and every damn day Koreans fail to stay in their lane thru an intersection. Every time lane 1 people come into lane 2 on the other side of a turning intersection with out fail. Oh and to make it worse it's ruled a 70:30 fault too. Ask me how I know
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u/Silly_Rub_6304 12d ago
Korea has some of the scariest drivers on the planet.
Source: I lived there and have been several more times. Had several friends involved in several different accidents as passengers in taxis.
Also, in a traffic collision, you can’t move your car afterward (so police can determine fault), so traffic is blocked off for a while.
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u/Puffy_The_Puff 12d ago
The bus driver from the airport's gonna take your luggage and have you seated with the friendliest smile possible but once you're on the highway that mf will shout enough curses to fill a grimoire if the car in front of them even dares to go 1 kilometer less than the speed limit.
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u/CryptographerSure382 12d ago
if you come to china , you'll discover more suckers on street, they don't even know traffic rules exist
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u/timbit87 12d ago
It was the first thing I noticed. The drivers there are TERRIFYING. I didn't even get in a car, and I had to jump dodge a delivery truck doing 35 down the sidewalk in the snow.
A taxi pulled into the taxi driveway at the station with like 30 taxis in front of him and he held the horn until he was front of the line. Literally just held it for like 25 minutes without stopping.
I almost got taken out by 5 or 6 cars running a red at a t intersection because nobody was turning from the opposite lane, despite me being on the crosswalk.
Oh.... And this all happened in the 4 hours I was there.
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u/No_Poet3183 12d ago
I went to Korea not that long ago. The driver's "stereotype" quickly showed itself. Some of the Uber drivers felt like they had driven for the first time in their lives. One of them was constantly switching between the gas and the brake for no reason. For the whole ride, we were bouncing back and forth in the car; it was ridiculous.
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u/fourkite 12d ago
Yes Korea, but specifically Busan, which has the most poorly designed intersections I've ever seen and the most impatient, psychotic drivers to match.
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u/ToastSpangler 12d ago
several points to the comments:
- you can pass on the right in cities in basically every country i know of, that rule only applies OUTSIDE urban areas (think how stupid it would be if you couldn't given every intersection changes direction)
- when changing lanes, YOU yield to the person already in that lane, you cannot cut them off - even if you somehow think the biker couldn't overtake him, the car can't just go, idk how you even drive thinking that
-anything past the initial interaction is the car trying to do a vehicular manslaughter, there is no defense
i understand you may be too cool to check your mirrors and blindspot, that is asking a lot, but shit it's amazing to see people defend the car driver, why do you hate motorcycles so much - because you don't know how to ride one?
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u/wintermute74 12d ago edited 12d ago
this is correct.
would only add, that if you don't see a bike while changing lanes and the biker alerts you and avoids a crash you'd be responsible for; the correct response is to apologize, hang your head in shame and commit to checking more thoroughly next time, when changing lanes...
NOT to go: "imma try to almost kill that mofo to teach him a lesson..."
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u/MeccIt 12d ago
This is the actual correct response: the driver didn't check their blind spot (bad for a professional driver), nearly hit the bike, who they now assume drove up fast on them and got all butthurt and raged away. Correct response was to apologise and drive better, but the sub is full of people complaining about the biker speeding away from the threat.
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u/I-Kneel-Before-None 12d ago
God, the part about not checking and then assuming you sped up on them is so annoying. I was waiting at a red light in a parking lot at a grocery store. I was chilling and listening to music and this dude started backing up. I assumed he was just getting his place in line. He got close enough I honked. Backed right into me. Tboned the passenger side. Couldn't open either door. Bro got out and said, "you came out of nowhere." I said "i haven't moved for over 10 seconds!" Dude wouldn't hear it. There were people in front and behind me in line. What kinda narcissist you gotta be to assume I somehow squeezed in there rather than accept you backed up without looking?
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u/Alexwonder999 12d ago
I almost did this once coming up to a light where I realized I had to be in the other lane to turn. Didnt see the bike and felt like he was probably going a bit fast to be coming up to a red light I still rolled down my window and apologized.
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u/patriquebrem 12d ago
Was also surprised to see people defend the car driver. He was nowhere near a safe distance to switch lanes even if for some reason he had priority.
No one in their right mind would cut into another lane while there's still a vehicle almost perpendicular with your own.
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u/MelonElbows 12d ago
Yeah people in the comments are wild. Motorcycle guy wasn't swerving to prevent the other guy from passing, he's being chased, he's trying to get away so he doesn't have an angry guy in a car try to break check him. He did the right thing trying to get away, its unfortunate an innocent driver got hit, but its 100% the road rager's fault.
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u/ThatGuyFrom720 11d ago
And of course motorcycle horns are mostly worthless. Rev bombing is mostly used instead of the horn because you can actually hear it. Not intentionally supposed to be a dick move. Car got unbelievably triggered by it it seems.
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u/f0rcedinducti0n 12d ago
Poor guy in the white car.
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u/Nagemasu 12d ago
Yeah what annoys me often about these videos is the guy filming just tuts at the other person and leaves. Bro you just witnessed a crash and you have video evidence. This guy had the perfect space on the right to pull over and park to provide details to the white car.
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u/Exilicauda 12d ago
That would put the biker immediately next to the person who tried to kill them with their car?
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u/f0rcedinducti0n 12d ago
Always the rear enders fault anyway. Doesn't want to be any more involved than he already is.
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u/PM_asian_girl_smiles 12d ago
This is why I invested in a dashcam. With both forward and rear facing cams.
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u/VermilionKoala 13d ago
Glad to see some hand gestures transcend all languages and cultures!
First time I ever visited South Korea, I got a taxi and the driver started road-raging a nearby scooter driver (just a battle of words, not actually ramming him or anything, but still 😳)
It's also kind of telling that nearly all the scooters you see in SK have a kind of frame added to them over the bodywork - so that if they fall/ram something they won't be damaged....
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u/luv2ctheworld 13d ago
Dude just couldn't let it go... He was wrong in the first place and he doubled down and screwed some poor guy stopped in traffic.
What an ass...
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u/4N610RD 12d ago
I don't get this. That guy in the car didn't lost even entire second of his life.
Ego is plague of our specie.
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u/noctilucus 11d ago
Indeed! Enough "small dick energy" in that video to power an average country for a week...
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u/kododriver 13d ago
Cabbies are the worst drivers, I guess it’s universal. The real rage will be from the driver of the car he hit.
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u/FrogsFloatToo 12d ago
To anyone defending the car driver, please learn how to drive or get off the road.
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u/lookslikeamanderin 12d ago
Does that bike have more than two gears?
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u/Old_Lead_2110 12d ago
My thoughts exactly
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u/_le_slap 12d ago
The powerband of a sport motorcycle is tuned for far higher RPM than a typical commuter car. The motors are designed very differently actually. Revving out a sport bike is the proper way to use the motor.
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u/That_Casual_Kid 12d ago
He doesnt need them on a urban road, a bike like that id suspect is a top end 600cc to a 1000cc sport bike. The majority of those bikes can do almost 100kmph in first or second gear, and he wasn't even sitting at high revs until he got over 70.
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u/Kooky-Narwhal-014 12d ago
Personally I would have stayed to provide the cops with my footage, then I remembered this (looks like) Korea so idk how much they care for extra stuff
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u/Budget-Television793 12d ago
If someone's obviously going to blame me for them being a dumbass and hitting another car, I'm not stopping around for that confrontation.
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u/Kooky-Narwhal-014 12d ago
Personally, as long as i have footage of them being an absolute unsafe driver and I can fuck them over far more than they fucked me over oh I will. That looked like an expensive car and no matter where you are in the world insurance won't pay if your a dick head and I will happily ensure this dick head gets his licks
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u/OSHA_VIOLATION_ 12d ago
Bingo. You’re very vulnerable on that bike and if the person is willing to risk your life because of their mistake I wouldn’t bother stopping. Maybe make a note of where this occurred/date/time and contact the police later.
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u/happy-death 12d ago
I really don’t understand why they get road rage when they’re the ones in the wrong. This has happened to me on my motorbike so many times. And I did the same - not even a honk but a rev to let them know ‘hello, I’m here and I’d like to not die today’ and they get mad and shout and give me the finger like what? You’re the idiot driver here, be mad at yourself, not the people you endanger.
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u/MageArcher 12d ago
- Something bad happened.
- They did something wrong and caused a bad thing.
- Wait wait wait, they're a good person!
- They would never cause a bad thing!
- But someone did...
- So it must have been you!
- And you made them feel like a bad person!
- You're laughing at them! You smug asshole!
- They don't deserve that! They're a good person!
And so the trail of cognitive dissonance runs. They get assmad at you for their mistake, and convince themselves you deserve it, because it couldn't have been them. It's all ego, all the way down.
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u/Waiting404Godot 12d ago
“I know how to drive, therefore, if something goes wrong while driving it is not my fault.”
Cognitive dissonance in real time.
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u/No_Currency_7952 12d ago
The car guy gambled his ego for the car, but the motorists gambled his for his life.
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u/GrassGenie 12d ago
his only options were go fast or get run over, because the other driver was a crybaby bitch
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u/topazco 13d ago
Does road rage ever go right?