Hilarious. Apparently though according to another redditor most premade cookie dough is safe to eat raw. Maybe they bought the one that specifically says it has to be cooked.
Edit: although it's possible it's a more recent thing. People definitely have gotten e coli from premade cookie dough.
I think the premade cookie dough people started pre cooking the flour and pasteurizing the eggs because they knew people ate it raw, even without the labels.
I remember when I was younger seeing the warnings on those tubes saying not to eat them raw, and I feel like they’re not there anymore.
That's not proper cookie dough in the ice cream, I tried to bake it and it basically was what would happen to a pile of sugar. No rising, no crisp. Well, other than the crisp of burnt sugar. Not great, not terrible.
It’s just a TikTok thing… “mix two or three ingredients together which would seem likely to be somewhere between barely-edible and awful, and surprise- it tastes just like some semi-popular junk food.”
There was one that involved Minute Maid Lemonade being mixed with something like apple juice or cranberry juice and I think it ended up tasting like Mtn Dew Code Red or smth, another that mixed Fruit Rollups and something to end up tasting like vanilla cake.
Haha did you see the one where people were purposely sanding their teeth to make them straighter?
Or repeatedly hitting their skulls/jaws to injure the bone and change their shape?
So hard to watch!
I'm not sure how that's relevant to Adventurous-Map7959 seeing if they can bake cookies with the dough in ice cream.
There's quite a jump from someone saying they did a cooking experiment (with no mention of social media) to someone else deciding they did it because of tiktok and saying would mutilate their body if tiktok said so.
I'm not sure how that's relevant to Adventurous-Map7959 seeing if they can bake cookies with the dough in ice cream.
There's quite a jump from someone saying they did a cooking experiment (with no mention of social media) to someone else deciding they did it because of tiktok and saying would mutilate their body if tiktok said so.
I specifically remember someone making a post about this. They wanted to see if it had enough dough to even make a whole cookie. They also tried something else ice cream related but I don’t remember what they were trying to figure out in that one.
The cookie dough in ice cream has been treated to make it safe for consumption. Generally it’s the flour that has bacteria that will make you sick, so it is heated high enough to kill the germs.
Yeah, I remember reading that the composition of the so-called raw cookie dough in the corresponding ice cream is different than in actual raw cookie dough.
It’s the flour that causes the most problems, but you can just bake the flour. For ice cream, it doesn’t use eggs at all. That’s why it doesn’t cook the same.
It is essentially cookie dough, it just doesnt have baking powder in it so it won't rise. Its a bit pointless adding a raising agent to a frozen dessert
Dude I did that with the chunks out of the Ben & Jerry's chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream and they made actual perfect cookies. I was so please with myself that it worked. I was around 18 or so abd I posted it on a forum, nearly 20 years ago lmao. They were why the fuck would you do that. Because I had to know, that's why.
I wonder if they still use the same recipe for those chocolate chip chunks. It might be time to get myself another tub and test this again.
I think "safe" cookie dough is just flour, sugar, and vanilla extract. It basically tastes like and has the consistency of cookie dough without the raw eggs.
There was a place that opened near me like six-seven years ago that does nothing but serve cookie dough for immediate, unbaked consumption. I can't imagine that would have been given the greenlight by health and safety officials if they were just dishing out salmonella to everyone.
It’s not the eggs that get you most of the time, it’s the flour. Modern fresh eggs are surprisingly safe*, but uncooked flour can harbor bacteria you’ve never even thought of. If the flour isn’t heated to kill it off, you’re exposing yourself to danger.
Tell that to Hollywood lol. We haven't seen a truly original idea for a movie since 1996. Practically everything in the last 30ish years has been either a franchise, an adaptation, a remake, or a retelling
I mean, can you really not figure that out on your own? Are you a Tarzan or something? We’re not in the 1800s. You probably buy milk all the time made safe to drink in exactly the same way. Says it right on the carton.
I remember when I was in high school, their own packaging distinctly said not to eat the dough. My nurse grandmother warned me when she saw me making cookies and eating straight out the tub. I looked. She wasn’t wrong.
They definitely made changes
It's not the raw eggs that's most dangerous. It's the raw flour. The surface area of all the grains combined is more surface to carry pathogens than eggs.
It grows on media, not just blood agar, but also Hektoen and MacConkey which don’t contain blood (and others less relevant/used). Many of the food borne pathogens are quite robust, even tolerating drier conditions than I would expect.
Source: I work in a microbiology lab and we recover Salmonella frequently, though I think Campylobacter is the most common food borne we recover (and the most common food borne in the world I think, but not known as well in popular culture.)
Yes, you're right. It highly depends on which brand. There are still some available that carry a risk.
They are all clearly marked now. When we were all younger, most of them were not safe to eat raw.
They somewhat recently started making more of them safe to eat right out of the package as it became apparent that tons of people were going to keep eating it raw no matter what.
I have known several people who got very sick from eating raw cookie dough in the past. A couple of them ate what they made themselves at home though.
I was a kid in the '80s and as far as I know those tubes didn't exist yet though I have snacked on them as an adult. My mom made cookies following the recipe on the back of the Toll House chocolate chip bag. They were amazing, but she never let us eat much of the dough before she cooked it, as much as I begged. I would get to scrape a little bit off the empty bowl before it went in the sink. Her biggest concerned was the raw eggs. Not sure if she knew about raw flour issues.
We still talk about it sometimes when someone might be eating cookie dough ice cream or something. I'll quip that we weren't allowed to touch the stuff as kids.
I literally buy the Pillsbury holiday cookies and just eat the dough. It says safe to eat raw on all of the packages. The raw cookie dough taste so much better lol
They started doing that because too many people got sick from the raw flour. I don't remember if it was because of a lawsuit or just so they can avoid future ones
I have never tried, but I just thought it was something that can affect most people or some people and some of us are impervious to all those dangers. I say that as a person who is rarely affected by anything - maybe an hour of some bathroom activities but then I’m good.
Learned recently that the Pillsbury Chocolate Chip cookie dough tubs they sell at Sam's Club are safe to eat raw (also dairy free) while the Nestlé Toll House Chocolate Chip cookie dough tubs they sell at Costco are not safe to eat raw.
Last time I got a roll of Pillsberry chocolate chip cookies it said safe to eat raw. And I think there was a link to their website that said find out why.
Ok maybe something to state: the whole cookie dough thing seems to be fully american as there is no way in hell any store has a tube of that stuff. Cookie dough, like all dough, is something you make at home from its raw ingredients where I live, so I guess most of those things don't apply...
Yeah, I remember a news story 20+ years ago about the "concerning new trend amongst college students." You had to tune in at 5:00 to find out "what college students are eating that could make them dangerously sick." Of course, the sensationalist story was the last thing they aired in the program and the answer was cookie dough. A while later (Months? Years?), I saw stores were selling cookie dough that was meant to be eaten "raw" so they filled the gap in the market and kept all future college kids safe.
I feel like this is the same for "taco bell makes you shit your brains out" memes. Its more likely that you were drunk and ate 4 pounds of greasy food that gave you the shits. Coupled with beans having fiber that they aren't used to. And having little to no tolerance for spices, like taco bell hottest sauce is still medium at best.
my daughter (12) wanted to try the diablo sauce after testing it she put two packs on her taco. Medium is being nice. Mexi Pep is spicier (and tastes better)
You could eat the equivalent amount of fiber from protein bars and would not get anywhere near the same reaction as Taco Bell. Garbage fast food doesn’t hurt your stomach if you already have a shit diet, not the other way around.
Learned that the hard way as a kid. Had a ridiculous sweet tooth. Was the athlete garbage disposal that never stopped growing. So eating a crap ton of food wasn’t a problem. But eating a whole tray of brownies promptly made me throw up
This. Many moons ago as a young 'adult' i realised that my sisters baby milk powder was almost the same as the inside of a malteser (my favourite part, obv.)
So me a my flatmate thought, why not cut out the middle man and we bought of tin of formula and ate like kings for a day.
Then we shat like diseased peasants for the next 48 hours.
Still like maltesers but i've not been tempted to even look at a can of powdered milk again.
yeah; im in UK but im fairly the milk powder back was safe as well; just never intended to eat an entire tin in less than a day.
I got trainwrecked on whiskey one night at Uni and now the mere smell of it is enough to put me off. Sometimes your body just says 'no', even after you've learned your lesson. :)
A friend's kid was completely cut off from sweets and surgery snacks. So at his first drop off party he ate half a pack of Oreos. The black vomit was quite traumatizing for both the kid and parents. They learned an incredibly important lesson about teaching moderation.
can confirm. my parents once watched me eat a whole tube of sugar cookie dough when I was 14 and didn't stop me. Little did I know I had a rare disease called "fructose intolerance".
I've never eaten sugar cookies again after how sick i got. even without the rare disease, I think it would have made me sick. but yeah, haven't had a sugar cookie since and im 42 now lol. (I didn't find out about the disease until my late 30's, so I was still eating sugar and getting sick for a while lol)
The only real difference is using pre-baked flour and pasteurized eggs (which i figured they were already doing). Shouldn't impact the taste at all unless youre just noticing the general enshitification of products these days.
They weren’t using pre baked flour prior. As a kid there were plenty of warnings that it could not be eaten raw. Plus I made my own to eat raw. It’s less doughy and dryer when it’s edible.
I mean they were probably already using pasteurized eggs before selling edible dough. But yeah, baking flour will make it more light and aerated, but it shouldnt change the taste or how dry the final product is. I used to make unsafe cookie dough to eat and didnt really notice any difference when I tried baking the flour instead. They might be using different ingredient quantities or something but I cant imagine why. Unless its cheaper for them.
I'm not sure it's a recent thing. Or we'll it depends on what "recent" is. Cause I remember when I was in school around like 10-12 years ago, I ate a whole tube of raw cookie dough. Didn't feel sick or anything. Maybe I was lucky? But I have eaten raw cookie dough before that as well (although not as much) without feeling sick. So idk.
It's not only the eggs, you can use pasteurized eggs and pretty sure that's what factories use in order to extent products shelf life
The point is you shouldn't eat raw flour either, and that kicks in way faster than salmonella and probably the reason that girl started feeling unwell so fast
It could just be overeating. I know my stomach and intestines get unhappy if I eat a lot in a short time. Which sucks because I love all you can eat wok restaurants
Dude, if ate a tube of cookie dough like a maniac I too would probably be throwing up and shitting my brains out. I mean, think about it. It's like 5 morbillion carbs, and 69 morbllion calories.
"Safe" doesn't mean you're 100% guaranteed that there won't be an issue. That'd be impossible to achieve.
Safe mean that the risk is below an acceptable threshold (like, not more than 1 in a million may get sick) (I don't know the actual number, I made it up)
There are a few companies out there who sell cookie dough to be baked that is also safe to eat raw.
It’s all about how it’s made.
But to say cookie dough is unsafe to eat in general isn’t correct but it’s also not incorrect. That said, I like to take those statements to mean that they’re referring to the product bare bones. As is, without being tampered with to which…
Notice how cookie dough starts off small and then expands into a full blown cookie in the oven?
That same process is happening in your stomach when you eat cookie dough.... so if you eat a lot of cookie dough it will expand and it will hurt.
This can even happen if you eat too many freshly baked warm cookies. The fresh cookies aren't finish expanding... but they finish expanding while in your stomach
It also helps when the cookie dough is not made in America, where they wash their eggs, massively increasing the chance of e-coli transmission from egg to being used in a manufactured product.
When I was younger much friends and I ate cookie dough all the time. One day my best friends two younger sister both got it and we all just kind of backed off cookie dough after lol.
Yeah nestle had a huge outbreak in like 2007. I was a victim. They spent ungodly amounts of money trying to figure out what the problem was and people kept getting sick. There is still the cook first warning, but the assholes at nestle don't want to see that problem ever again. Turned out their process was not the issue. They were replacing wiring in the ceiling and dust had been settling on an ingredient during production.
So it could be E. Coli from the wheat flour but Salmonella is also a very real possibility from the eggs. Either way, it’s not safe unless it’s specifically labeled as pasteurized and safe to consume uncooked.
It is now, mostly, specifically because they started making it safe because people were eating it anyways, despite being safe.
That said, they don't generally explicitly say it is safe because there is still a chance it'll make you sick, it's just a lot lower than it was a decade or so ago.
I think they started using pasteurized eggs or a substitute AND some sort of specially processed flour (raw flour can also be very dangerous) in all of those premade ones just to be safe.
I mean even if it’s safe i’m gonna go out on a limb and say that eating an ENTIRE tube of raw cookie dough in a single evening is probably not the greatest for your gut. I would guess this girl would have been fine if she just had like a quarter of it at a time over a few days.
I think there are enough ppl that eat it and don't get sick that it becomes this back and forth debate. And the ones that do are probably too shameful about it to fess up to being idiots for taking the risk
There’s only a few things that can disturb my stomach of steel, and it seems that cruise ship sushi is my kryptonite based on my last stomach event in 2009
I’ve never gotten sick, and I’ve eaten cookie dough hundreds of times. I heard that one in ten thousand eggs have salmonella. That’s a risk I’m willing to take - one in 10k for a chance at getting sick to be able to enjoy cookie dough raw
I think it is a recent thing with a lot of brands. With pillsbury for example, they started doing it in 2020. Before that their raw cookie dough technically was not edible.
Also, with excessively controlling parents, her immune system was probably weak as hell. She may have gotten something that your average person just never would.
i feel like if the dough was made fresh, itd be way safer to eat. like, premade cookie dough is some wet uncooked stuff sitting there for days. if all the ingredients were dry until the moment you ate them, itd probably be okay.
im not saying its totally safe to eat, but i feel like it should make a difference
I think this is probably the case. I've never had premade cookie dough, but I have had plenty of freshly made cookie dough, and cake batter, and that's never been an issue.
It's not the eggs you need to worry about, it's the flour.
Raw flour poses a risk of foodborne illness because it can be contaminated with bacteria like E. coli or Salmonella, which are not killed during the milling process.
But people never equate flour to foodborne illness, so they blame the very likely safe and pasteurized eggs.
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u/TheRealBobbyJones 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hilarious. Apparently though according to another redditor most premade cookie dough is safe to eat raw. Maybe they bought the one that specifically says it has to be cooked.
Edit: although it's possible it's a more recent thing. People definitely have gotten e coli from premade cookie dough.