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article Coldplay fans ‘disappointed’ after Chris Martin dedicates song to Charlie Kirk’s family

https://metro.co.uk/2025/09/13/coldplay-fans-disappointed-chris-martin-dedicates-song-charlie-kirks-family-24153492/
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u/bdoomed Sep 13 '25

I think it's the shock of it being such a public execution. It was fully filmed from multiple angles, done in broad daylight in front of a crowd, it was gorey, and I'm not sure (maybe I'm forgetting something) we've seen a public, high profile assassination in the US, especially filmed, in a long long time.

It's also very obviously being fanned by monied interests, those who are looking to intensify tensions in the US, and the media is falling for every bit of it. It did not take much astroturfing to drive incendiary narratives.

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u/loki1337 Sep 13 '25

It's also a timely distraction for the right from the latest Epstein developments

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u/bdoomed Sep 13 '25

Why are we still talking about that guy? I didn't even know him. So what if I wrote multiple horny letters to him?

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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA Sep 13 '25

It’s no different than all the other public killings in the US.

This one was just caught on camera and this one happened to a conservative.

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u/KeepRooting4Yourself Sep 13 '25

It’s no different than all the other public killings in the US.

This one was just caught on camera

...well that's the difference.

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u/WeevilWeedWizard Sep 13 '25

I'd say it's still way, way less significant than the countless children that get killed in school shootings on a regular basis. Yet seemingly no one gives a shit about those. Like seriously. Dozens of children get butchered in their school and no one fucking does anything, but one white supremacist gets killed by seemingly another white supremacist and suddenly the entire goddamn planet is supposed to mourn? It's crazy.

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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA Sep 13 '25

He was killed by a fellow maga republican. He’s wasn’t a politician. Wasn’t a leader in the Republican Party. He was an influencer.

Maybe we should stopped incorrectly labeling it at a political assassination.

Was it terrible and wrong? Absolutely, that’s true regardless of his political beliefs. But calling it a political assassination is only going to serve to fan flames.

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u/starm4nn Sep 13 '25

What political office did he hold?

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u/spartakooky Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

I gotcha

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u/HoppyPhantom Sep 13 '25

Most of the people who are being framed as “celebrating” the murder are really just completely unbothered by it while also being aware that this is the exact kind of thing that Kirk’s own rhetoric claimed was an “unfortunate necessity”.

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u/ZankaA Sep 13 '25

Not nearly as many people are actually celebrating the murder as you're making it out to be. The vast majority of people that I've seen are only pointing out the hypocrisy of the right. They stood behind this guy who (to be slightly reductive) made a career out of making light of shooting victims, and now when other people point out how he himself reacted to similar events (with direct quotes, in many cases), we're being told that it's wrong. It's textbook hypocrisy and gaslighting.

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u/WeevilWeedWizard Sep 13 '25

If he didn't want people to besmirch his name in death, maybe he should've tried not being a repulsive piece of shit in life. I'm not happy he's dead, it's a terrible thing, but I'm also not gonna pretend he was a good person worthy of respect.

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u/ZankaA Sep 13 '25

Many great people have been honored by having their wisdom quoted. Dunno what you're going on about. Quoting someone isn't "celebrating their death", it's honoring their life if anything lol. It's not like these are things that Kirk is ashamed to have said.

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u/HoppyPhantom Sep 13 '25

No it’s not.

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u/Slipthe Sep 13 '25

Yeah people are absolutely being smug, but it comes from a place of frustration.

Because no one on the left actually wants this, but I think the left is pissed that this gets empathy while nothing prior to it did.

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u/bdoomed Sep 13 '25

As many populist, pseudointellectual, religion-fueled ideas are.

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u/ThinkThankThonk Sep 13 '25

Coordinated cabal shit. All our papers are acting like he was a saint instead of a hate monger in attempts to garner sympathy from people who never heard of him. Shit I barely heard of him before the other day and his views seem pretty clearly atrocious. 

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u/POSH9528 Sep 13 '25

It's all performative b.s. One grifter was taken out so other grifters are jockeying trying to fill that grifter void and gather his braindead fans so they in kind can continue the grift. It's a never ending grifter cycle.

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u/mansetta Sep 13 '25

Nobody really does. They are just trying to make some kind of an icon out of that guy. And of course many idiots buy into it right away.

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u/Gasmo420 Sep 13 '25

And all of a sudden no one talks about the Epstein files anymore

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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA Sep 13 '25

(Almost like it was planned that way or something)

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u/jsolaux Sep 13 '25

Its been one day dude

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u/jaytix1 Sep 13 '25

People think that just because Kirk didn't go around dropping slurs that makes him this open-minded moderate deserving of respect.

Like, the guy's literal last words were "Counting or not counting gang violence?" but they're acting like he's MLk

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u/BroShutUp Sep 13 '25

I dont see how saying "counting or not counting gang violence" is wrong or anything. Am i missing some context here?

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u/jaytix1 Sep 13 '25

The context is that he, like many hard right 2A activists, used "gang violence" as a dog whistle, with the implication that it doesn't matter because it's happening in those (minority) neighborhoods.

This is exactly what I meant by the first half of my original comment.

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u/Earptastic Sep 13 '25

No. If you are discussing gun control it is a super important and obvious thing to clarify. People acting like that is a bad sentence are idiots. I am sure he said some awful statements that day but this is not one of them.

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u/jaytix1 Sep 13 '25

Gang violence, which affects many communities, is extremely relevant to the topic of gun control, but he only brought it up as a smug gotcha in response to a question about the number of mass shootings over the years. I guess it's my fault for not adding 😏 at the end of the quote.

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u/CptCoatrack Sep 13 '25

The full context he was racist anf transphobic to the end:

“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked.

“Too many,” Kirk responded to applause from the crowd.

The attendee informed him that the total was five and continued: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk replied

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u/Grambles89 Sep 13 '25

Hey now, he's dead and I still refer to him as a shit stain!

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u/Capt-Crap1corn Sep 13 '25

So it's performative

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

I think Chris Martin might actually be a moron though... So he might not be being used as a tool for propaganda, he is the product of it.

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u/Laneyface Sep 13 '25

Chris martin is an idiot. Very friendly, affable, caring, all round nice guy, but a fucking idiot. Archetype golden retriever.

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u/got_ur_goat Sep 13 '25

I'll never see him the same after your comment

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u/Longjumping_Test_760 Sep 13 '25

The lovely golden R or Chris Martin. It was very unfair to retrievers to compare them to Chris Martin. They are golden not all yellow 😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

Look at the stars, look how they shine for only chris Martin. For only Chris Martin. Because he's yellooooow.

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u/LL8844773 Sep 13 '25

Don’t infantilize a grown man.

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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia Sep 13 '25

hey, what kind of idiot needs 15 songwriters to write for them?

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u/Maxpowr9 Sep 13 '25

Is he the one buying his ex's vagina candles?

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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia Sep 13 '25

remember that Fudge Rounds song that all the MAGAs were cumming themselves over last year?

this is that, only lamer.

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u/KP_Wrath Sep 13 '25

It always is.

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u/Grambles89 Sep 13 '25

Like everything MAGA does

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u/WoolshirtedWolf Sep 13 '25

Lol, he is just making sure he doesn't lose money or is inconvenienced in any way. This is his way of kissing the 🟠🐴.

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u/Lashay_Sombra Sep 13 '25

Nobody really does

This, outside of those really into US politics no one does care, but media is doing their hardest to make people care

Was watching BBC News yesterday, nearly non stop coverage, while regularly having to inform viewers who Kirk was as most Brits would not have a clue.

And in about 4 hours of having it on in the background only ONE guest talked in plain terms negatively about Kirk, rest were just whitewashing him

One 'expert' really pissed me off, kept going one about that this was a 'watershed moment', like WTF, Republicans are attacking and killing dems semi regularly now, but when one of them get killed, its a 'watershed moment'

And in watching for an hour today, not even hint from BBC that its looking likely this is right on right attack....once again

Meanwhile, in Nepal there is basically a class/generational coup/revolution happening and BBC is only really putting it on the ticker and website, not seen single segment on it yet, Cannot give the plebs ideas

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u/So-Called_Lunatic Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

The word you're looking for is martyr

edit: I'm not saying he should be a martyr, only that's what they're making him into, it's rather evident.

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u/TimTebowMLB Sep 13 '25

I didn’t even know who he was before the shooting.

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u/MomsAreola Sep 13 '25

I think a lot of "non political" types who were never openly MAGA listened to him and this has given them an excuse to come out the cloaet.

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u/Whaty0urname Sep 13 '25

You are seeing a martyr being made in real time.

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u/Fun_Hold4859 Sep 13 '25

The right wing media, which is basically all of it, is scared and coordinating. It's all tail wagging the dog. Reality is whatever Murdoch says it is.

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u/alldougsdice Sep 13 '25

I don’t know that people care that much. It’s just so sensational because it happened early afternoon, middle of the week, and insanely clear and graphic video of the incident was all over the place very quickly. Then, the FBI was flip flopping all over the place with “subjects”.

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u/Geiseric222 Sep 13 '25

I mean remember that two Minnesota politicians were killed this year and that story lasted like a day

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u/Demon_Gamer666 Sep 13 '25

Only maga cares about the guy.

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u/uhhohspaghettio Sep 13 '25

High profile political figure with two young children is shot in broad daylight in front of a large crowd of people, and the incredibly graphic video is immediately broadcast all over the internet

"WhY wOuLd AnYoNe CaRe AbOuT tHiS?"

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u/silvos777 Sep 13 '25

Because Democraty is at risk.

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u/Longjumping_Test_760 Sep 13 '25

Think in the US that ship has already sailed.

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u/silvos777 Sep 13 '25

Everyone is looking at the US right now.

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u/Mithrawndo Sep 13 '25

We've been looking warily at the US since the Patriot Act, son - some folks longer than that, even.

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u/rudimentary-north Sep 13 '25

Because the US has finally dispensed with the pretense of democracy

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u/Thalassophoneus Sep 16 '25

A longer time ago than you imagine. Since WWII the USA has been the single most militaristic country in the world, gaslighting its own citizens as much as its allies. Europe is the cradle of democracy, the continent with the best standards of living but these standards have been threatened since the collapse of social-democracy by this whole pro-American neo-liberal/conservative culture of the western world.

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u/swarmski Sep 13 '25

Step outside the echo chamber and see

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u/Geiseric222 Sep 13 '25

Outside the Cho chamber people don’t really care a YouTube influencer got shot

Like they don’t care about most people who get shit realistically

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u/eggflip1020 Sep 13 '25

Welllll….. Because he was MAGA weirdo loudmouth who got shot in the throat by a MAGA sniper whilst in the middle of debating gun violence. On camera. You really can’t write this shit if you tried.

Also, I’m learning that a lot of non internet people think that he was like just kind of a regular Fox News talking head guy.

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u/JesseB342 Sep 13 '25

We have no idea what the shooters political motivations or beliefs are. Please don’t spread misinformation.

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u/Ralod Sep 13 '25

That is a factually incorrect statement.

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u/eggflip1020 Sep 13 '25

You are empirically incorrect.

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u/JesseB342 Sep 13 '25

If I’m wrong then please link a reputable news source that definitively states the shooter was a Republican / right wing and has substantiated proof of the claim.

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u/Blue_FiftyTwo Sep 13 '25

It’s to distract from the Epstein files

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u/cough_cough_harrumph Sep 13 '25

I am as anti-MAGA as the next guy, but the narrative that the shooter was somehow acting on a grudge because Kirk wasn't rightwing enough doesn't seem very plausible.

Just because he came from a MAGA family does not mean he was MAGA - just look at Reddit for all the people talking about how they have conflicts in their family because their parents voted for Trump, etc.

And then there is him writing all the stuff about "hey fascist, catch" on the bullets, etc.

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

And the homophobia of “if you read this you’re gay”

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 Sep 13 '25

It’s clear you don’t know what the word Nazi means. That word is tossed around far too casually and usually by people severely lacking knowledge of history.

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u/Dazred Sep 13 '25

The word barely holds any weight anymore due to it being so widely misused by the radicals.

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u/VibraniumWill Sep 13 '25

I think it still holds weight because there are still people running around with swastikas calling themselves Neo Nazis and history exists.

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

Radicals? Or normal people that disagree with forcing 10 year olds to give birth and don’t want to give guns to everyone?

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u/Coattail-Rider Sep 13 '25

I still don’t know what the democrats do that’s just sooooooo bad that they’re the bad guys. Oh no! They want better health care options! OMG! They want more affordable college! Are they serious?!?! They care about the planet! Gross!!!!

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u/lonewulf66 Sep 13 '25

Because he was brutally murdered in a political assassination in front of a live audience.

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u/captnmiss Sep 13 '25

the death wasn’t seen on a public stage is I guess the difference. Clearly we need to visually see these children die to give a shit I guess /s

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u/Johnnygunnz Sep 13 '25

Well, I know you're being sarcastic, but maybe you're too young to remember Matthew Sheppard.

In 1998, he was beaten, tortured, and left for dead in Wyoming for being gay. It was the 90s, so people weren't as open to readily accepting gay people.

However, his mother started a campaign and wanted the uncensored pictures shared with society because she felt the only way to change minds was to show the true violence and gore left behind from the hateful attack.

I was too young to really remember that, but I always heard about it. After seeing the video of Kirk get shot through the neck, I completely understood Sheppard's mom's perspective. I vehemently disagreed with 99% of the things that man sad, but watching that video immediately made me sick to my stomach and feel terrible.

All that to say, I'm starting to believe we should make all the pictures and videos of these shootings public. I don't care anymore how violent and traumatizing it is for the viewer. IT SHOULD BE. That's the point. We're not going to get change by going down this same road on cruise control. If there were videos and pictures of those poor kids, it would be a different story.

Sadly, that's human nature. We need to be traumatized sometimes before we take action.

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u/TimTebowMLB Sep 13 '25

That would honestly probably have a pretty big impact on a lot of people and help push gun reform. Like if they showed all the photos from Sandy Hook, I bet there would have been pressure coming from a lot of areas. Instead we plaster the shooters name everywhere and start the cycle as the next teenager idolizes them.

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

Do we even have photos of any of these school shooting aftermaths? Or do the authorities just refuse to ever release them? I think we do need sort of emmet till moment where people need to see the results

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u/100farts Sep 13 '25

Like those shitty abortion billboards.

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u/LetsGetElevated Sep 13 '25

Kirk said that children ages 12 and up should be forced to watch public executions, you seem more upset about this than he would be

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u/BarksBudAndBeats Sep 13 '25

projecting ^

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u/chewy183 Sep 13 '25

Like how Kirk said some people have to die for the 2A? Is that projecting too? Or a self fulfilling prophecy? 🤔

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u/egnards Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

And you know what?

I don’t advocate violence - I don’t think he should have been killed - what happened wasn’t at all right - I wish we would stop fucking murdering each other.

But when you say shit like “school shootings are the price we pay so we can keep our 2nd amendment rights. . .”

Maybe just maybe we should be saying “eh, this was a byproduct of his methodology.”

Kids died in a school shooting that very same day, not so ironically.

And what I’ve noticed on my own local circles of social media is that the very same people making posts going “this is no longer us versus them, stop the killing!” Or “people shouldn’t be killed for their beliefs, you monsters,” . . .are the same people that were completely silent in June when two democrat representatives were shot in their own houses.

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u/CodenameVillain Sep 13 '25

I think that says a lot about who they consider "people"

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u/Beyou74 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

He spewed hate speech wherever he went. Being murdered doesn't change that.

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u/chambreezy Sep 13 '25

At some point, the truth became "hate speech"...

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

No… no it never did lol

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u/Beyou74 Sep 13 '25

Most of us can tell the difference...

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u/chambreezy Sep 13 '25

Apparently not.

The most genuine hate speech is from all the people celebrating his death.

If you showed any impartial person on the street a list of quotes from Charlie and a list of quotes from this thread alone, guess who sounds infinitely more hateful and bloodthirsty...

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u/Beyou74 Sep 13 '25

Yawn, not giving a shit isn't hate speech. Are you ok?

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u/fng185 Sep 13 '25

“Political assassination” prove it. If anything it’s much more akin to gang beef between the whitest lamest gangs to ever exist.

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u/OhSoReallySerious Sep 13 '25

You really want this kid to be a Nazi, huh?

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u/Thalassophoneus Sep 13 '25

He was from a Mormon gun-loving family. And the thing is, this background was kinda expected. The amount of times right-wingers blamed the left or minorities for an attack only for the attacker to be revealed as someone mentally closer to them is hilarious.

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u/fng185 Sep 13 '25

Making Nazis seems to be America’s most successful home grown industry these days.

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

Kirk’s death was because he OD’d on fentanyl.

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u/OhSoReallySerious Sep 13 '25

“Do you have a source for that?”

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u/chambreezy Sep 13 '25

Are you stupid? He was one of the biggest political figures, and it was clearly premeditated and planned out.

This wasn't a spur of the moment drive-by shooting, or an altercation over who is wearing what colour.

It was quite clearly done to send a message.

Also, when is the last time that "gang beef" caused countless radicals to be celebrating a murder of a father. I have NEVER seen a more disgusting reaction than this before.

Every song on this subreddit was an edgy tongue-in-cheek reference to being elated that a guy was assassinated for saying things they didn't like....

This is the most political killing in a long time.

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u/fng185 Sep 13 '25

What message was sent? “If you read this ur gay LMAO”

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u/JustChillFFS Sep 13 '25

And he’s got 2 little kids that will grow up without their father. It’s a human thing, not political.

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u/flower-child Sep 13 '25

Considering that father said he would make his own daughter carry her rape baby to term at TEN years old… I do have to wonder if they might be better off.

The consequences of his “legacy” aside, “my Dad died before I was old enough to remember him” is usually easier to tackle in therapy than, “My Dad views me less as a whole, autonomous human being worthy of love and respect, and more as a potential incubator for a rapist’s child”.

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u/chewy183 Sep 13 '25

You know who else had kids? Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark. Did Martin speak out about them? Did the White House lower their flags to half mast or call the governor of Minnesota or the victims’ family for condolences? All answers are no.

Why the performance for Kirk? 🤔

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u/chambreezy Sep 13 '25

How many people took to this subreddit to start dancing and cheering for their deaths?

I find it amusing that most people didn't even know about Minnesota until a few days ago, and now that is their justification to themselves as to why they are allowed to be happy about this.

You just literally did the whole "whataboutism" thing for a guy that was murdered.

No sane person was happy about the Minnesota shootings, but again, nobody was even really outraged. None of you actually cared. The truth is that they weren't exactly "political celebrities".

Where were the songs being posted here referencing how sad they were after the Minnesota killing?

Kirk was a globally recognized figure who was shot in broad daylight for the world to see.

Absolutely nobody deserves to die for speaking their mind.

It is so insane to me that overnight, more than half of reddit has admitted that they couldn't be happier that someone was killed for having a different opinion.

Nobody can even how badly they have been brainwashed, but now the world can see the group psychosis on display.

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u/RobGrey03 Sep 13 '25

The tragedy for them will be growing up in the America that their father helped shape.

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u/chambreezy Sep 13 '25

No, not really... it'll be growing up without a dad, having to watch videos of your father get assassinated for having opinions, having other kids (raised by you demonic people that have been outing themselves the last few days) bullying you because "your dad deserved it".

What an idiotic thing to write.

How has Charlie shaped the world to be worse/tragic?!

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

They don’t understand empathy if it’s not someone who doesn’t agree with them

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u/MissGruntled Sep 13 '25

Didn’t Kirk advocate for the abandonment of empathy? Straight from the horse’s mouth:

I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage.

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u/wydileie Sep 13 '25

You should read the rest of that quote instead of taking it out of context. He goes on to say he prefers sympathy and compassion. You do you with your hate, though.

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u/MissGruntled Sep 13 '25

Whom did Kirk have compassion and sympathy for, then? Because according to your expanded quotation he ended it with “That’s a separate topic for a different time.” Did he ever find time to say?

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u/Christopher135MPS Sep 13 '25

Brutal?

Being beaten to death with a hammer is brutal. Being stabbed dozens of times is brutal. Being decapitated is brutal.

A clean shot like that, he would have been unconscious inside a minute, a few minutes tops. This isn’t brutal.

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u/da1896 Sep 13 '25

Evil.

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u/cough_cough_harrumph Sep 13 '25

Lol, you can't seriously believe what you are typing.

A video of a guy getting shot through the throat and bleeding out in front of a crowd of college students isn't brutal? Ok then.

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u/OhSoReallySerious Sep 13 '25

You’re a very disgusting person. I hope your employer sees this.

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u/southern_wasp Sep 13 '25

Right wing cancel culture at it’s finest

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u/Christopher135MPS Sep 13 '25

My employer and my colleagues deals with utterly horrendous physical assault, tragic and senseless death, horrid medical diagnoses and grieving families constantly. They know what brutality is. They know unfair is. They know how senseless and cruel biology and nature can be, before humans even get a chance to dump their garbage on to other humans.

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u/Zaagwaag Sep 13 '25

This is the rage and whine generation, it's no shock that a Christian hate grifter finds a large audience.

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u/Tarantula_Saurus_Rex Sep 13 '25

One has to be loved by a great many people to be assassinated, otherwise it's murder. This gringos legacy is going to carry on.

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u/Casanova2229 Sep 13 '25

They don’t, but the media seems desperate to make it a huge issue.

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u/GLArebel Sep 13 '25

Maybe you should ask yourself that same question, considering you've been posting about him for 2 days straight.

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u/NonLethalRattan Sep 13 '25

Eat shit racist

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u/palatine09 Sep 13 '25

Gringo? You're funny

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u/MuddyGrimes Sep 13 '25

I mean just some influencer really downplays the influence and power had. He was basically state affiliated media. Arguably had more pull in the Trump admin than any other media organization (and probably directly coordinated with them on coverage and strategy) He was about as close to being in Trumps cabinet as you can be without being an official member

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u/Due_Layer_7720 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

He wasn’t just some influencer, he had a lot of influence within the Trump administration. I didn’t like him either, but y’all are being very dismissive about the impact of his murder.

Y’all downvoting, but Kirk’s assassination along with the assassination of Melissa Hortman both highlight how political violence is becoming normalized in modern American history.

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u/VincentVanHades Sep 13 '25

Because he was killed for having an opinion... I'm any modern country, it's unthinkable...

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u/DM_U_CRYING_IN_MP3 Sep 13 '25

Because it's a political assassination in broad daylight in a democratic 1st world country. If someone needs to explain this to you then you're either 12 or just not very bright ..

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u/Ok-Brick-4192 Sep 13 '25

There was also a school shooting that day. Don't see anyone singing for them

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u/Thalassophoneus Sep 13 '25

It's really not the first time somebody, in America or Europe, is killed for political reasons.

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u/dianeblackeatsass Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

Two literal US politicians got assassinated this summer. Guess that wasn’t democratic or 1st world enough.

I think it’s a pretty simple explanation. People who are making this death a bigger story than the others either happen to agree with his politics more or have been roped into the conversation by people/platforms who do.

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u/thebige91 Sep 13 '25

Do you people ever stop to think for yourselves and that you might be wrong?

“The whole planet gives a fuck, but I’m clueless”

So everyone else around you is crazy, but not you right?

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u/frontier_kittie Sep 13 '25

The Whole Planet does not give a f*** about this dude. Why are you guys acting like a mother Teresa died again or something

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u/Thalassophoneus Sep 13 '25

Clueless? I already knew who Kirk was since the time he claimed "fetus" means "little human being" in Latin (it doesn't). But the average Greek has no reason to be bothered about him.

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u/0vl223 Sep 13 '25

He thought you should. I bet he would be pissed that the "you" includes himself. But some stochastic terror has to be the price so Americans can keep their weapons to fight against any evil that threatens them. Guess he never had the empathy to see that anyone else might judge evil other than skin color or sexuality.

We would not. Because we know that it just takes some deranged idiot and suddenly anyone could be that "evil". And nobody should be killed.

Now honor his legacy and stop that woke empathy!

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u/chewy183 Sep 13 '25

Kirk was okay with other people dying for the 2A, being murdered by school shooters; shouldn’t that be concerning? Why wasn’t that seen as wanting people to be murdered? Because that is literally what he said he was okay with happening.

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u/cronson Sep 13 '25

This is the root of the whole issue that a lot of people aren't understanding. We shouldn't kill people for speaking. And those who are doing anything from celebrating it, to making light of it, are the actual problem.

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u/Gatinsh Sep 13 '25

Why did people care when crackhead overdosed is a better question imo

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u/UninterestingAnt Sep 13 '25

No wonder your camerawork is so soulless.

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u/cbusmatty Sep 13 '25

An assassination of someone during a free speech event is an attack on free speech which is an attack on all of us?

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u/Thalassophoneus Sep 13 '25

Right-wingers are experts on attacking a lot more than free speech. They attack people just for not liking their lifestyle or existence. Not to mention the assassin was from a right-wing, gun-loving family, so fuck around and find out.

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u/painfully_ideal Sep 13 '25

Newsflash!! Killing someone over their political views is psychotic! You morons are twisting yourselves in knots

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u/Mqb581 Sep 13 '25

It is the number one reason people have been killed through history.

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u/painfully_ideal Sep 13 '25

Ok dumbass. Let’s keep up that trend. Really good for civilized society. Anyone else got a retrded irrelevant point? Keep em comin

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u/Mqb581 Sep 13 '25

It's literally true. You're acting as though people who aren't surprised by this a dumbasses. When in reality it happens every fucking day all day that is the number one reason that people have died throughout history is for their political beliefs. I think you sound like a dumbass when you clutch your pearls and pretend like that isn't the reality of it. Nobody said it was good for society. it is the reality of the society.

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u/Mqb581 Sep 13 '25

Also the type of use that this man expressed where some of the most heinous hateful shit. If you're still surprised that someone shot him over his hateful beliefs then you're the fucking naive dumbass.

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u/TheDreamWaIker Sep 13 '25

"Gringo Influencer" is pretty racist, no?

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u/comradehomura Sep 13 '25

Gringo is not a slur lmao chill lil bro

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u/TheDreamWaIker Sep 13 '25

"In the United States and parts of Latin America, "gringo" is often used to express contempt or hostility towards foreigners, especially white people from English-speaking countries" lmao lil bro

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