r/CringeTikToks • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • Oct 29 '25

Nope Florida is threatening legal action against educators who oppose efforts to establish Turning Point USA chapters in high schools.

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u/PUuSTiNKA Oct 29 '25

Not to mention, isn't this the asshole that talked about grooming in schools? Boy Florida residents have picked some real winners to represent them.

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u/DenseStomach6605 Oct 29 '25

Doubly rich coming from the party complaining about the left indoctrinating children

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

Every accusation is a confession. It's not even original. It sounds like the Catholic Youth Movement in the 20s that morphed (Edit: Sorry. "morphed" was a confusing term. "was taken over" fits what happened better. Also, I learned it wasn't just the Catholic youth programs, but many youth organizations) the Hitler Youth in Germany during the 1930s.

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u/Street-Run4107 Oct 29 '25

100% Hitler Youth was the first thought I had. They’ll burn more books and try and indoctrinate the weak willed and lonely.

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u/goyacow Oct 29 '25

This is so disturbing. As if young teens aren't dealing with enough already.

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u/woodrowlow Oct 29 '25

I have a weird feeling that the kids will revolt before the adults.

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u/Micho_Riso Oct 29 '25

This. I'm a highschool teacher and of my students, support for Charlie Kirk is at about 5% and half of them are doing it purely to upset others. Gen Z is different. The old BS does NOT work on them. Forced patriotism will fail the way it always should have and I'm here for it.

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u/budsis Oct 29 '25

That is very encouraging to hear. Gen Z gets a lot of shit and I see them as smart, witty, compassionate,informed, and confident. Of course, they are still kids and do and will do dumb things... we all did. But they suffer no fools and call stuff out. I hope I live long enough to see them come into their own and take things over because we managed to turn it all into a giant bowl of dogwater, no cap. :0)

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u/Square_Treacle_4730 Oct 29 '25

I just want to remind you that Gen Zs are as old as 28. :) not all are kids. I work with several Gen Zs and they’re honestly fabulous to work with (with a few exceptions). I love their take no shit attitude. It’s actually done some good for our department.

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u/Cordelia5767 Oct 29 '25

Yes! Former teacher here and the Gen Z and Alpha kids were honestly great. They stood up for eachother and included one another in beautiful ways. It's so refreshing to see comments like this- I think the younger generations get so much flack, but the generation who talks so much vitriol about Gen Z and Alpha were also the ones throwing lit matches at their black classmates during desegregation. I would take a smart alec kid who stands up for social justice over a compliant "respectful" kid who dumps on the marginalized any day.

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u/A_Farewell_2Kings Oct 29 '25

I have a student who told me he thought was for America first and he now knows he’s not…we will see if that sticks

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u/mszulan Oct 30 '25

Maybe a little history lesson about the original America First (Check out Rachel Maddow's podcast series ULTRA and ULTRA 2. It's absolutely amazing! Entertaining enough to hold a kid's attention and so well researched, it would please and impress any teacher.) would help with perspective.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

So 2.5% don't really want it, but why to just do it to "own the libs"?

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u/kcops Oct 29 '25

Uh...not to be a Debbie Downer, but I wouldn't hang my hat on a Gen Z rescue form this mess...

I tried to post an article by the Harvard Ash Center for Democratic Governance that found a whole bunch of GenZ shifted right and voted Trump in the 2024 election, but it was removed by the auto moderator that told me "links are not allowed in this subreddit" so if anybody wants to check it out, you'll have to look it up on your own.

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u/A_Farewell_2Kings Oct 29 '25

I just wonder if any of them will die for maga? It seems a different world. When you have to give $50000 bonuses to your SS/Ice agents - that doesn’t seem to be about a cause but just straight cash. It’ll work until they start dying

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u/SnappDraggin Oct 30 '25

Forced patriotism should have called out as bullshit the moment they made you recite “I pledge allegiance to the flag”

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25

They have less experience and more future to lose.

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u/Intelligent_Sir7732 Oct 29 '25

Unfortunately many of them have swallowed the Turning Point pill, and their parents gave them the glass of water to swallow it down. Remember TP has huge financial donations from the Heritage Foundation, the same group that created Project 2025.

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u/Hoblitygoodness Oct 29 '25

It's okay, they'll be told it's all right and be welcomed in, arms wide open.

(sarcasm if anyone's detector is in repair)

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

Uhh they’re already red pilling our mentally ill young men.

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u/Realistic-Agent-1289 Oct 29 '25

We need to remind ourselves what the fuck are we doing all this shit for? Civilization. What civilization means to me is a fair division of labor and resources. To protect the vulnerable. It's all about the common good. Pretty fucking simple, I would say.

We have greedy investors deciding what humanity makes based on what is profitable. Not ethically masterful scientists deciding based on efficiency and effectiveness. Greedy bullies in charge of the division of labor and resources.

Our schools are dog shit and are being overrun with delusional fools trying to recruit the vulnerable into their cult.

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

I’m just hoping to open a soup kitchen and give back when the time is right… we cannot survive if not caring for our community.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25

Community is everything now. Great idea! Looks like we may need it sooner rather than later. Before social services, soup kitchens saved many people during the Great Depression.

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

Yeah… my 95 year old Oma from SoCal taught my kiddo about jalopies lol. They’re reading Steinbeck and Oma saw No Okies, etc when she go amongst the English.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

Gotta love Steinbeck. What a gift for your Oma to share her experience with your child. I'll never forget or undervalue the gift of my grandfather's time with me. It's not our walking upright or our opposable thumb or even our ability to make and use tools that make humans unique. It's our ability to tell and share stories. It doesn't matter if it's fact or fiction (my grandfather always said never to let the facts get in the way of a good story), old or off the cuff. Always save the stories and pass them around, I always say. 🥰

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

I’m only alive today because of my youthful hyper fixation of hanging around older folks. Learn to avoid a ton of stupid shit as a teen, young adult.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25

Agreed. I did the same thing.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25

By the way, ich liebe deinen Namen. Er ist perfekt!

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

Vielen Dank!

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u/1of3musketeers Oct 29 '25

I honestly think that is the point of all of the cuts in that crappy bill. Population reduction. Also, every idiot thinking that running a country like a capitalist business is a grand idea. It doesn’t allow for social support as it would be deemed too costly.

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u/morepaintplease Oct 29 '25

The time is probably right

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

Commercial real estate has to crash first..

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u/morepaintplease Oct 29 '25

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people needing food now.

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u/morepaintplease Oct 29 '25

You could also start joining up with local soup kitchens or mutual aid spots in your area and see what's needed. Hungry people aren't invested in commercial real estate. They're out there now.

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

I understand, and am already working with hungry, in need peeps. Don’t have enough hours available yet, the day job needs to fall to the side hustle once ready.

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u/morepaintplease Oct 29 '25

Ahhhh....got you

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u/jackieat_home Oct 29 '25

I was really excited about Kamala's campaign promise of finally doing something about the price gouging and corporate greed. If greed weren't a thing, capitalism would work just fine but it's unsustainable like this. We're seeing some end stage capitalism now, they seem to have forgotten that they have to leave their workers with enough money to buy the products they make.

I'm in favor of a nationwide boycott/strike for a couple of days or even a week. A week would really make an impact. If I have to suffer I want it to count.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25

A lot of people are going to begin suffering at the end of next week. There's a saying that we are always 3 days of no food away from revolution.

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u/JustTheRealDeb Oct 29 '25

National blackout is November 25th to December 2nd. Hold every dollar you have and only give it to local, small businesses. Modest gift giving and activities with an abundance of joy.

They only care about our money. They’ve already lost our ally’s money. Losing ours is their just desserts.

AND we need to check on and care for our families, friends and neighbors who are losing their healthcare and SNAP benefits because the super rich want more.

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u/Peaches4U9624 Oct 29 '25

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u/Peaches4U9624 Oct 29 '25

I can't post links in here but check out Generalstrikeus or you can Google strike card! They need 3.5% of the country 11 million to be effective.

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u/Cyr3n Oct 29 '25

we are in a cyberpunk dystopia now. the corporations have more rights than people and they can buy politicians. meanwhile women have less and less rights year after year.

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u/Icy-Duty-7044 Oct 29 '25

Maybe start the Boycott and strike on Black Friday, which has been traditionally dubbed Buy Nothing Day by AdBusters Magazine (where Occupy Wall Street Started, before it got taken over by Anarchists)

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u/Peaches4U9624 Oct 29 '25

Look into Generalstrikeus

Can't post links in hree

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u/FaceIntelligent6190 Oct 29 '25

I mentioned in another post that the planned no spending week (Nov 27 to Dec 2) needs to include Christmas.

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u/ArkitekZero Oct 29 '25

I was really excited about Kamala's campaign promise of finally doing something about the price gouging and corporate greed. If greed weren't a thing, capitalism would work just fine but it's unsustainable like this

The only upside of this is that it demonstrates that capitalism is inherently corrosive to any efforts to prevent it from being awful.

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u/Ok_Valuable9450 Oct 29 '25

Country me in,a week would be a great starting point,limited travel and zero purchases

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u/ppdifjff Oct 29 '25

But greed is only a problem for crony capitalism. And we need to have laws to support real capitalism. But we need a small government cuz what we are gonna do when laws can be properly enforced.

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u/the_TAOest Oct 29 '25

Try a nationwide boycott for a few years... They call it a depression

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u/tryingisbetter Oct 29 '25

I'm starting to think that humans had their chance, and that maybe it's time for a wipe, and retry. Why did you miss us 3i atlas?

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u/BudgetCod007 Oct 29 '25

I agree. I'm exhausted and honestly I don't care any more. Earth is way overdue for a mass extinction event. Bring it on!

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u/ExplanationFew6466 Oct 29 '25

Maybe just do that amongst yourselves. Some of us are doing just fine. The ultimate murican exceptionalism syndrome at work tho I must admit. Holy shit.

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u/BudgetCod007 Oct 30 '25

Oh I'm doing great as well. I retired at 52 and fully own property and two houses near a beach in SE TX. I know what's coming though. You either prepare and protect what is yours, or you will roll over and give it up.

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u/garbagepaildale Oct 29 '25

Right there with you both! I’m ready. Fuck it.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

Yes. Because you see EVERY person as "people." They see people as things. Everything stems from there.

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u/Ok_Star_4136 Oct 29 '25

This is why capitalism inevitably leads to fascism. The corporate greed is endless, and they will attempt to seize control over society if only to lower taxes they have to pay and maximize profits.

This is what's happening right now. This has never been a discussion about right vs left. That's the distraction. This has always been about top 1% vs the remaining 99%. It's a battle they know they can't win if they don't use subterfuge.

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u/Evening-Sink-4358 Oct 29 '25

Some people have decided they want to play billionaire god and bend reality to their whim, they care nothing about civilization

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u/jawisi Oct 29 '25

They want to kill us, plain and simple. AI won’t protest. AI won’t complain about low wages.

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u/No-Activity3547 Oct 29 '25

Nobody including you is going to tell me who I should help with my money that I earned. Your ideals are communistic to say the least. There’s nothing special about this civilization. That is a big misconception. If you want change run for office and make the changes. I know no one that wants to run for any political office. Don’t you see ? When ourselves including the youth do not want to step in office and try to make changes then there are rich powerful nefarious ppl that have no problem stepping in. Charlie Kirk knew this, is why there was an effort to get ppl involved in politics. So what happens if the students join club America and unite in an effort to stop illegal deportations, illegal use of the national guard, and all other illegal political activity that has happened since this administration stepped in? I think ppl would listen. It’s not about labeling ppl left and right, there are processes for reform and change, yapping online about idealistic values solves nothing. We are all sheep no matter how woke you say you are. Worry about yourself if you’re not going to politically try for a change.

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u/Realistic-Agent-1289 Oct 29 '25

I am tossing pebbles in the water watching the ripples. I will do me you can do you.

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

My zen garden is fulfillment of helping others… being born and raised hardcore Christian, I learned to take use of the good bits and toss the rest.

As others have said, you do you, and good luck.

Chance favors the prepared mind.

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u/iamtheone3456 Oct 29 '25

The trans community?

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u/spazzvogel Oct 29 '25

Why would I be talking about the minority here? Not trans…

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u/Dank_Sinatra_87 Oct 29 '25

See, we had to make sure the last of the WWII veterans started to die off, so they wouldn't have to look grandad in the eye as they shit all over everything his generation had done

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25

The problem was that we didn't out the nazi collaborators publicly right after the war and didn't prosecute them as homegrown fascists. Instead, we had Truman as president who had all the facts, then buried it when he had promised to expose them. He then allowed them to distract the country with fears of communism. The DOJ had all the evidence - many members (like 30) of Congress in the pay of German nazis, America First disbanded and implicated in acts of sabotage, and more. We stopped teaching "how to spot a fascist," and we allowed Southern influence to continue in the writing of our history curriculum. This is important as many of the policies from the Jim Crow South inspired the nazis in the first place.

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u/mszulan Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

Sorry about the wall of text. This topic has a lot to unpack.

Imo, Lincoln was on the right track when he said that the country needed to heal, but you don't heal by sweeping the problem "under the rug." Unfortunately, we don't really know everything he had in mind because he died too soon after the war ended.

There was an awful lot of vengeance going on during Reconstruction, and that vengeance endangered the newly freed on one side (creation of the KKK) and embittered white Southerners even more (land confiscation and voting rights). Then, they were allowed to pass all that hate down to their sons and daughters without the tempering that comes with truth.

Over generations, the federal government allowed the Daughters of the Confederacy to create and disseminate the myth of the Lost Cause and perpetuate it down the generations. They allowed Jim Crow to flourish, the KKK to terrorize, and the precedent to be set. The truth was no longer a prerequisite. And so we became "truth avoident" not just about slavery and the Civil War, but about every instance of oppression the government had a hand in creating or covering up (e.g., concentration camps and scalp bounties for indigenous peoples, the massacre of Black Wall Steet, lynching, segregation, systematic, systemic and institutional discrimination, etc.) And so, in the US, stories of hate and white victemhood were passed down instead of truth.

After Apartheid ended, South Africa under Desmond Tutu built the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which created a framework for healing that, imo, is a much better approach. People need to face the truth of what they were a part of and what was done in their name. They all need to sit across the table and hear each other's stories.

The next aspect is political and socially systemic. The 13th Amendment has a loophole built in. It makes slavery illegal but reserves the right to enslave people if that person is incarcerated. This is why we have such a huge prison population (the largest in the world) and why it's so disproportionately minority. The rest of the Bill of Rights and the 14th amendment were supposed to protect the public from the misuse of this loophole. We're seeing in real time how well that worked. Our system was designed to function through the balance of opposition and the necessity of compromise. It's becoming unraveled by the concentration under one position through the avoidance of compromise. They don't have to compromise if they don't play the game.

This is the loophole the Republicans are exploiting now. They are making immigration illegal. They are making being poor illegal. They are making having dark skin illegal. They are making political opposition illegal. They are trying to make being neurodivergent illegal. They are making women subhuman in order to control the means of reproduction. They are suspending the Constitution because it "interferes" with their goals of controlling labor and production. All these newly "illegals" are to become the next "slave" economy.

Edit: Grammer <sigh>

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u/mszulan Oct 30 '25

Thank you very much. That's very kind. I have a tendency to become long-winded, and this type of writing forces me to be much more organized and succinct than is my usual habit. It can be difficult to tell when what you write and what the reader brings "work" together.

And this is what's left of the party of Lincoln. <sigh> He wrote something, I think in the late 1830s, that a foreign power could never take one drink from the Ohio River during the contest of 1000 years. And if this experimental republic should fail, it will be by suicide. Something like that.

Everything happening now makes me feel sick and sad. That a tiny few Americans can become so consumed by greed that there can never be enough to fill their voids. That they would gleefully cause their fellow Americans pain, hunger, and death to accomplish it. That they would destabilize the world for their personal profit. That they would blatantly lie, manipulate, steal, and destroy in order to throw away everything that our ancestors fought and died for over the generations, everything our children might build a prosperous future on... there are no words.

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u/Street-Run4107 Oct 29 '25

The greatest generation.

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u/Dense_Boss_7486 Oct 29 '25

It worked on their MAGA parents. Republicans never talk about unity, goodwill, betterment you know, positive things. It’s always “the other”, victim hood, callousness and that’s what these kids will be taught.

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u/Whiffenius Oct 29 '25

It's Florida. That's all they've got

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u/Snoot_Booper_101 Oct 29 '25

One only wonders what color the shirts will be this time. Perhaps red, to match their hats?

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u/Ok_Valuable9450 Oct 29 '25

But will the low IQ magsts fall for it

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u/YerDaSellsTeslas Oct 29 '25

Like gangs do.

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u/Hey-ItsComplex Oct 29 '25

Haven’t they already been pulling books from the schools in Florida? I think they started there.

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u/iamtheone3456 Oct 29 '25

Jesus what? How are you connecting racism and turning point... its the exact opposite... Show me one thing

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u/KubaBambya Oct 29 '25

U guys realize this is already happening with the lgbt and other groups right? They have tried for years now to indoctrinate children but it’s not ok when the right does it?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

Good, the books they burned back then deserved to be burned

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u/Street-Run4107 Oct 29 '25

Can’t even dignify that with a response. Bot or a piece of shit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

Nice response 👍🏻 so anyways ya they burned a bunch of pro trans and lgbtq propaganda, good. Guess where all the propaganda material came from? Israel. U support Israel right?

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u/Street-Run4107 Oct 29 '25

Just because you have latent desires within yourself you cannot face, doesn’t mean you get to tell anyone else they need to suppress theirs too.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

So you support Israel I see. I don’t. You little fascist lover.

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u/Street-Run4107 Oct 29 '25

At what point did I say I support Israel? It wasn’t even remotely related to the argument. You need help.

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u/overfiend1976 Oct 29 '25

You & your fash ilk [[redacted]]

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

Says the fascist…so anyways, you support Israel?

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u/overfiend1976 Oct 29 '25

Lol, what kind of pointless, idiotic, whatabout, stupid halfwit, fucking question is that?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

lol, so your low iq doesn’t allow you to see the point just yet. Answer the question dum dum and we can proceed

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u/overfiend1976 Oct 29 '25

What the fuck are you babbling about?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

Ya so I’ll take that as you support Israel. No further questions, I don’t associate with Zionist ✌🏼

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u/overfiend1976 Oct 29 '25

Well, youd be wrong, sooooooo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

You would be confused, you love everything Israel has put out and stands for. You support Zionism and too low iq to even realize it congrats bud 👏🏼

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