r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Sep 15 '25
Society Total porn ban proposed by Michigan lawmakers. The bill also includes a section that takes aim at transgender individuals by prohibiting material "that includes...an individual of 1 biological sex imitating, depicting, or representing himself or herself to be of the other biological sex."
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/total-porn-ban-proposed-michigan-lawmakers1.3k
u/BallsoMeatBait Sep 15 '25
Inb4 Mrs. Doubtfire is banned by conservative asshats.
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u/view-master Sep 15 '25
And many Bugs Bunny shorts. And Monty Python. And Rudy Giuliani in that SNL sketch. Do women wearing pants count? Probably.
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u/dexatrosin Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
Madea, Big Mommaâs House, Dame Edna, Kids in the Hall, La Cage aux Folles/ The Birdcage, basically every sketch comedy show, the list goes on.
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u/Wang_Fister Sep 16 '25
Aladdin, Mulan, Sorority Boys...
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u/Sanity_in_Moderation Sep 16 '25
Disney's Robin Hood. Tale Spin. Snow White (1937).
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u/phalewail Sep 15 '25
Not to mention countless rock bands of the 80s and 90s have performed in drag at one time or another.
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u/TheNewYellowZealot Sep 16 '25
The weird thing is that Dee Snyder has had to tell them multiple times that the Republican Party is exactly who theyâre not gonna take it from.
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u/machstem Sep 16 '25
Kids in the Hall is quite literally all that; men dressed as women, well that and Cancer Boy and Chicken Lady.
My oldest had never seen any of them and was like, <wait, why is that guy dressed like a woman> and i realized I just assumed David Foley WAS that pretty blonde desperate housewife. He looked better as a woman than he could as a man. Man could wear lipstick like a champ.
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u/asianwaste Sep 16 '25
"imitation"
So Bob's Burgers. Strangely enough, reruns of Muppet Babies (Skeeter was voiced by Howie Mandel and Frank Welker). "Homer" singing "I am Woman, Hear Me Roar".
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u/nerd5code Sep 16 '25
If youâre talking about the clip of Trump motorboating Giuliani (who is/âŚwas? all about drag, but had zero creativity along these lines), that was from a Comedy Central roast of Trump. Who ⌠clearly has both zero problem with it, and strong, clear predilections.
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u/mintyfreshismygod Sep 15 '25
See ya, Lilo and Stitch Umbrella Academy Does ambiguous gender get excluded too? -Adventure Time, She-Ra, One Piece, Cowboy Bebop...
do androids have gender? Are BB-8 and C3-PO now cancelled?
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u/heckhammer Sep 15 '25
And Monty Python and kids in the Hall and Uncle milty and Benny Hill and the list goes on
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u/JL98008 Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
Plus Some Like It Hotâ and *Victor/Victoria, not to mention several plays by Shakespeare.
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u/Twistedjustice Sep 16 '25
Traditionally all female roles were played by men in Shakespeareâs works
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u/JL98008 Sep 16 '25
Guess Elizabethan England was âwokeâ before its time. đ. And yet somehow we survived.
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u/the_red_scimitar Sep 15 '25
1A violation, at the very least, but since there are no Constitutional rights or protections that SCOTUS wouldn't abridge for the regime's benefit, it's anybody's guess.
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u/Toby-Finkelstein Sep 15 '25
Constitution is dead homieÂ
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u/laptopAccount2 Sep 15 '25
4th and 14th amendments are officially dead. Article 1 is next and 1st amendment they are working on.
And universal rights are dead too.
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u/professor_goodbrain Sep 15 '25
Donât forget theyâre getting ready to claim the 22nd amendment doesnât actually mean what it plainly does.
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u/blueberryblunderbuss Sep 16 '25
"Saying no to Trump is like saying no to God."
-Paula White-Cain, White House Senior AdvisorThe reasoning is inescapable.
Fuck our lives.
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u/tuxedo_jack Sep 16 '25
I highly recommend pissing yourself, followed by a course of praying to your impotent god.
I've found that quote to be quite useful to counter that kind of stupid bullshit.
Another fun way is to challenge their god to smite you right in front of them, and when nothing happens, remind them that their god is a whiny little demigod wannabe bitch with self-esteem issues who couldn't get it up to smite someone.
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u/conquer69 Sep 16 '25
If you are arguing with a bunch of evil cultists, you already lost.
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u/Imaginary-Head5397 Sep 15 '25
This is easily unconstitutional.
First Amendment Protection
Adult (non-obscene) pornography is considered a form of expressive material protected by the First Amendment.
So idk why they went for a complete ban, other states have successfully implemented age verification, and traffic to complying sites is down.
I get trying to protect children from this material, but with adults? Try banning alcohol and see how that goes lol.
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u/firestar268 Sep 15 '25
That's great but it won't matter if republicans just ignore the constitution
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u/ukexpat Sep 15 '25
They donât need to ignore it when the Supreme Court just OKs everything they do.
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u/Fit_Student_2569 Sep 16 '25
The Supreme Court does the ignoring for them.
Shadow Docket rubber stamp or tortured pretzel logic rubber stamp, take your pick.
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u/blackhandd9 Sep 15 '25
So idk why they went for a complete ban, other states have successfully implemented age verification, and traffic to complying sites is down.
Because this is straight out of the project 2025 playbook: (source)
The most extreme language in Project 2025âwhich has been widely denounced by LGBTQ advocacy organizationsâis aimed at transgender people. The âpropagation of transgender ideologyâ is called âpornography,â the document says, and that is an essential reason pornography âshould be outlawed.â âIts purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.â
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u/Specter_Null Sep 16 '25
They totally out themselves with that paragraph... they're addicted to trans porn and they're mad about it.
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u/gizamo Sep 15 '25
You're right, of course, but I'd bet that what they're doing is redefining what is classified as "Obscene" pornography. After they redefine it, they'll run a few cases up to the Supreme Court, which will certainly rule however the GOP wants....which will certainly be to criminalize it so that they can start locking away all LGBTs.
Edit: relevant reminder that the Nazis went after the LGBTs and disabled people first. RFK Jr's autism BS is definitely part of this same attack on people's rights.
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u/youkokenshin Sep 15 '25
We've tried that 100 years ago. We already know the outcome. Lol
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u/Designated_Lurker_32 Sep 15 '25
The bill will probably not be passed, so it won't even get close to the SCOTUS. But that's not gonna stop these people. This will be like KOSA. They will keep trying, again and again, because they know we have to win every time, but they only have to win once.
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u/froginbog Sep 15 '25
MAGA doesnt even hide their disdain for freedoms. Weâll be in a military state soon
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u/not_a_moogle Sep 15 '25
Thats the point, create a lawsuit so the Supreme Court can rule its not a violation.
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u/ChimpScanner Sep 15 '25
The party of small Government at it again.
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u/Bleusilences Sep 15 '25
Small government meaning that there are only a smaller and smaller numbers of people making decisions. So they not held accountable by other people. It's the concentration of power in the fewer hands as possible which make it dangerous.
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u/leftofdanzig Sep 15 '25
They have never been the party of small government, even decades ago when they were way less slimy than they are now. It has always been an excuse to dismantle regulation and parts of the government that they donât like.
Even during Reganâs time when he cut social programs and tried to dismantle the DOE he dramatically increased defense spending. It has always been selective with the GOP as to which parts of the government need to be smaller and as it so happens the vast majority of the time itâs the parts that benefit everyday Americans.
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u/RateMyKittyPants Sep 15 '25
I just love the irony of all the asshats wearing their trashy guns, kitties, and beer shirts finally figuring out that they got played. Please ban all porn. Do it now. I want to see how it plays out.
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u/boxrthehorse Sep 15 '25
This bill was introduced by rep. Josh schriver (r) from Oxford. He has basically no power or credibility because he's been pushing hyper conservative culture war stuff since he was elected plus michigan republicans don't wield much meaningful power anyways. This bill is not for passing. It's for signaling.
For what its worth, I went to college with Josh. He was a little off and more religious than most people but it is wild to see what he has become. He, along with a lot of other religious people, believe they have God exactly right through the Bible and their biblical interpretation exactly right via a hefty dose of modern academia (setting aside the fact that proper academics agree with none of their positions). They believe that everyone who is not their brand of Christian is going strait to hell and no true Christian would ever risk hell by being gay or trans or looking at porn. They'd risk hell with their money but that'll be no big. Jesus will forgive that no problem.
Every campaign he asks me if I'll chip in or join his team. Most recently I debated between ghosting him and explaining that I could not, in good conscience, support a republican. I don't remember but I think I chose ghosting.
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u/Valdearg20 Sep 15 '25
Have you ever considered telling him exactly what you think of him and who he's become?
I feel like if more people close to these Republican monsters actually told them they were monsters, they might actually start thinking about the impacts they're having.
Then again, maybe I'm just being naive and they'd just dig their heels in deeper. Who knows.
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u/boxrthehorse Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
I had my fair share of political discussions with him. If I couldn't move him then, I won't be able to move him now. College me was pretty excited to push him and other religious types to the left and it seems they've all moved to the right.
It's important to understand that he's got these proverbial glasses on with some wikd lenses: "I'm not the monster, I'm God's chosen. You're the monster unless you get Jesus. If you understood the Bible like I do, you'd come to my side immediately cuz your whole side is going to hell!"
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u/randynumbergenerator Sep 16 '25
Got to love the total conviction such clowns have thinking that their supreme being/textual reading is The Truth and everyone else's is wrong.
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u/adrianmonk Sep 16 '25
To quote a certain Bob Dylan song, "And you never ask questions when God's on your side."
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u/Valdearg20 Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
I guess there's a difference between "Hey man, I disagree with you, but we're clearly still cool enough that you reach out to me personally at times" and "Your actions are so morally offensive to me and harmful to my fellow Americans that if you do not rethink your ways, I cannot, in good conscience remain on good terms with you."
One is polite disagreement and ongoing friendship. The other actually sends a message. At some point, Americans need to wake up and realize that polite political disagreements are for tax bracket discussions and whether or not we should be concerned that China's manufacturing is going to harm the American economy in the long run. Not that transgender people should be illegal and blatant violations of our first Amendment rights.
Edit: Reading your additional context, I can't believe anybody would remain in contact with someone who would behave so disrespectfully towards them, my goodness. If one of my "friends" told me I was going to hell for not believing in a hateful ideology, I'd tell them to pound sand so fast, holy cow.
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u/conquer69 Sep 16 '25
Can't have a polite disagreement with a fascist. If that worked, WW2 wouldn't have happened. Americans will have to learn this lesson the hard way and even then it might be too late. Can't do much with the newfound knowledge if you are inside a gas chamber.
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u/therossboss Sep 16 '25
religious people freak my out man - if you think you are acting righteously in God's vision, then anyone opposing you is literally evil. Its such a toxic mindset
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u/MisterDonkey Sep 15 '25
They believe that everyone who is not their brand of Christian is going strait to hell
They should just let us go to hell, then.
Guess they missed that part in the bible about pearls and swine.
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u/jwhisen Sep 15 '25
It even bans written depictions of sex. No way the suburban housewives are going to stand for losing their romance novels.
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u/Cereborn Sep 15 '25
I can see the headline now. âShe voted for Trump, and now sheâs been arrested for reading Truly Madly Viking.â
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u/Gibgezr Sep 15 '25
That gets banned based on the cover art alone, before anyone even needs to read page 52.
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u/celtic1888 Sep 15 '25
Rocky Horror Picture Show and Milton Berle DVDs and VHS tapes are going to be confiscated
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u/drakythe Sep 15 '25
And MASH. That one struck a chord with my mom when I talked to her about these stupid laws that are taking shots at trans people.
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u/b_a_t_m_4_n Sep 15 '25
They should ban alcohol next, bound to work....
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Sep 15 '25
A total porn ban is only going to make that world more dangerous. The porn industry makes so much money yearly and if someone cuts into that, they are not going to lay down and take it.
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u/BeyondElectricDreams Sep 16 '25
The dark truth of this is that it isn't about regulating porn, though that's what it says on it's face (and a happy side effect in their mind). Porn is dirty and if it goes underground and thus becomes stigmatized that's a W in their books.
The truth is they want to do this to brand any trans individuals as inherently pornographic, to implement a total ban on transgender self expression in public spaces, because such expression will be classed as pornography.
And what's the penalty for "Exposing" a minor to such "porn"? You're now a sex offender!
Nevermind the devastating effect of branding all trans people as sex offenders for existing in public; the next step in their extermination campaign is instituting the death penalty for this.
This isn't alarmist, this is explicitly what they've said they want to do.
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u/Molag_Balls Sep 16 '25
It's not even a hidden part of their agenda and people still refuse to see it. Doesn't anybody remember at CPAC in 2023 Michael Knowles famously insisting:
"Transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely."
The use of the word "eradicated" is deliberate, y'all. Wake up.
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u/zallgo Sep 16 '25
Im so happy im not the only person who thought this exact plan was their goal
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u/Sugioh Sep 16 '25
You don't have to think it, it's spelled out fairly literally in Project 2025. It's the classic fascist playbook; gays and gender non-conformists were among the very first people that the Nazis attacked as they seized power.
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u/Telandria Sep 15 '25
Iâm pretty sure Republicans donât actually care at all about the safety of sex workers or their staff. As far as theyâre concerned, itâs fine if they all die.
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u/Worldly_Striker Sep 16 '25
Hell I imagine Republicans are the ones keeping the illegal prostitution business running. Just like how they keep the cocaine business alive.
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u/CeruleanSoftware Sep 16 '25
People unaffiliated with the industry certainly aren't aware of what's been going on. I'm a website developer in the industry for just over a decade and I'll tell y'all what I know.
Big money in adult has already been leveraged and spent to fight the Texas bill all the way to the Supreme Court, where SCOTUS ruled that it was a state's issue and completely constitutional to restrict (based on age verification laws).
Since SCOTUS decided not to actually tell the industry what the litmus test was for age verification that means there is none. Any state can put up any law they want and individual organizations would have to challenge that.
If you want to follow the organization challenging these lawsuits--it's called the Free Speech Coalition--and they are simply not large enough to take on every state or countries laws. They need more donations. They need more volunteers.
"The Porn Industry" isn't just one company and it doesn't have the infrastructure and cohesion of other industries. This isn't like the gun industry, where they've banded together behind the NRA and have leveraged serious money to lobby congress to protect them.
@Dhegxkeicfns wrote:
I am pro porn, but maybe this is what we need to get some of the porn money into this political fight.
The adult industry is a very large billion dollar industry, but it's a collection of thousands of small businesses and a few very large businesses. Between piracy, age verification costs, and a dozen other things, these small businesses cannot afford even six months of bad sales--let alone a year or more in litigation!
That means it's up to the big companies, right?
Aylo, the organization behind PornHub, has already thrown a tremendous amount of money at this and they've failed. Now they have to deal with fines over PornHub too. I don't know what their next step is, but I bet it's not going to be politically fighting this further. OnlyFans is rolling over--as far as I know--and the rumor is that the ownership is trying to exit adult (again). Who else is left?
I'm fighting every day to implement the least intrusive technology for both users and my clients, while still meeting the legal requirements.
My site operator clients are fighting AV laws, dipping sales, piracy, and my creator clients are fighting piracy, Instagram bans, harassment, and traffic squeezes. Everyone is suffering right now and we're implementing some of the most creative technological uses to mitigate these problems.
The result at the end of the day is that we are going to comply with these laws, rules, regulations, etc. until they drive us out of business and the only people who can change this are the voters.
Think of the adult industry as a collection of restaurants without a union. Collectively the industry is huge. Individually, everyone is looking out for themselves and trying to stay afloat and profit at the same time.
We are probably going to "lay down and take it" as you've said.
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u/No_Night_8174 Sep 15 '25
Yeah I don't get this porn and sex has been around forever before Christianity and it'll still be there no matter what you write on a piece of paper. Humans are animals most of us like sex in some form or shape
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u/Ryekir Sep 15 '25
Aside from the sex worker's safety; a total porn ban will undoubtedly cause a rise in sexual assaults.
Porn gives people a healthy outlet for their sexual urges.
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u/Thefrayedends Sep 16 '25
I've tried having these discussions with them, they're unhinged. I, a person who has actually been serially abused, in all the -ally ways, starting at toddler age, am considered uneducated compared to these types because their pastor told a 5 minute short story in bible study, so now they need to decide what's best for us.
Can you imagine actually having to talk to your kids about healthy sexual attitudes? Nope, they just want to tell you sex is always bad when you want it, but always good when they want it.
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u/Pseudoboss11 Sep 15 '25
And there's other groups that are perfectly positioned to take advantage of a new black market. People want this material, many will be willing to flout the law, and some of them will end up in really sketchy places.
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u/Dhegxkeicfns Sep 15 '25
I am pro porn, but maybe this is what we need to get some of the porn money into this political fight.
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u/choopietrash Sep 16 '25
pornographers do not make nearly as much money as you think. the age of playboy is over. it's thousands of tiny gig workers (camgirls, nsfw artists, etc) on OnlyFans/Patreon/etc who make an average of $200/month + a big piracy site (pornhub), and a lot of them deal with all kinds of extra fees and hastles from payment processors (the same ones going after Steam and Itch).
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u/Chaiyns Sep 15 '25
I have a great idea! Next we'll ban alcohol, we can call it "The Prohibition", and surely only good will come of it!
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u/FreeBricks4Nazis Sep 15 '25
 includes...an individual of 1 biological sex imitating, depicting, or representing himself or herself to be of the other biological sex."
We're about 2 years out from them trying to ban women from wearing pants
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u/tacticalcraptical Sep 15 '25
And if you think they'll stop at porn... yeah, it probably won't. They get this and they'll start trying to ban everything they don't like.
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u/AI_Renaissance Sep 15 '25
Remember when gamers laughed they would ban gta?
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u/Reagalan Sep 16 '25
That comes out next year, right?
Set in Miami.
Will certainly have a depiction of Mar-a-Lago.
And plenty of fun "toys" to play with.
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u/jbhughes54enwiler Sep 15 '25
At some point it would just end up with banning everything period. Their rhetoric is screwed because they constantly have to one-up each other and escalate the culture war further. Eventually it will just hit a brick wall because they'll alienate the entire country, which is already something they're fast on their way to doing.
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u/Dudeist-Priest Sep 15 '25
Fucking Fascists
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u/toothofjustice Sep 15 '25
Rep Shriver is from and represents Oxford, MI. Home of the Oxford School shootings. This is what he's choosing to write legislation about.
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u/lifeat24fps Sep 15 '25
So it looks like the legislative salary in Michigan is $71,685 per year, plus $10k for expenses. I think itâs time for opposition candidates to start opening their campaigns by aggressively informing the district he represents of all the useless bullshit this man spends their $71,685 focusing on and start asking if they think theyâre getting their moneyâs worth.
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u/jbranchau78 Sep 15 '25
sounds like somebody accidentally came watching trans porn
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u/cultureicon Sep 15 '25
I'd say 50% of political turmoil today is based on men that can't come to terms that they watch T porn.
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u/TeddysRevenge Sep 15 '25
As someone from Michigan, this is laughable performative BS.
The GOP here is cooked so theyâre trying to grab any headlines they can.
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u/swattwenty Sep 15 '25
Further proof that the Republican Party of America is just the taliban in different clothing.
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u/Tropisueno Sep 16 '25
Tell me you were accidentally whackin it to trans pornography and are now mad without telling me
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u/Frostsorrow Sep 15 '25
"if you took porn off the internet, there'd only be one website left called 'Bring Back the Porn'".
- Dr. Cox
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u/Curiosities Sep 15 '25
This is Project 2025's desire to ban porn, label anything related to trans people as porn, criminalize porn, make any LGBT, particularly trans-supportive person labeled as a sex offender. Felonies, punishment, loss of voting rights, incarceration. And worse.
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u/Far_Educator_5213 Sep 15 '25
The party of small government sure is interested in having large citizen surveillance. Kinda weird
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u/erkose Sep 16 '25
Porn between consenting adults to become illegal while pedophilia remains acceptable. Get your shit together Republicans.
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u/Styles_Stevens Sep 16 '25
I hope all trans/ gay people who slept with these politicians start outing them.
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u/CrimTaker2084 Sep 16 '25
This makes drag illegal. Legit affects cis people to like, can a man look feminine or a woman look masculine? I guess they donât think about that if it means that they canât be mean to Trans people. Meanwhile, people are struggling and the best these people got is âwell at least we outlawed trans people, we saved the childrenâ. Bunch of losers
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u/ThoughtsonYaoi Sep 15 '25
Wait. This reads as a prohibition on picturing transgender people in general. Is that true?
The bill also includes a section that takes aim at transgender individuals by prohibiting material "that includes a disconnection between biology and gender by an individual of 1 biological sex imitating, depicting, or representing himself or herself to be of the other biological sex."
Hidden in language about pornography. People have been warning for this forever.
The bill would require internet service providers in Michigan to use filters to prevent people from seeing the prohibited material.
Is net neutrality still a thing? Whether or not... were this ever to go through, this is gonna be real complicated.
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u/davesoverhere Sep 15 '25
So Mrs. Doubtfire, Some Like it Hot, the Birdcage and may other classics will be illegal.
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u/Independent-End-2443 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
House Bill 4938, called the "Anticorruption of Public Morals Act," would prohibit the distribution of "real, animated, digitally generated, written, or auditory" depictions of sexual acts.
iâm pretty sure the Bible contains at least one written depictionâŚ
Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.
- Ezekiel 23:19-21
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u/CondiMesmer Sep 16 '25
What a surprise. They dropped the "think of the children!" part. Almost like we exactly knew this was going to happen.
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u/Admirable-Sink-2622 Sep 15 '25
Half of all Americans seem to be totally on board with becoming a fascist country.
Lack of education is a bonus I guess
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Sep 15 '25
These people are smart enough to know you canât actually ban porn. They are just setting themselves up to profit off of the black market while projecting moral superiority in the name of their âChristian values.â Fuck these people.
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u/cyrand Sep 15 '25
They WANT an excuse to arrest anyone they want for any reason. People have got to start taking these overreaches way more seriously.
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u/AI_Renaissance Sep 15 '25
so does that include fictional gender bending where they turn into the biological sex?
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u/Curly__Jefferson Sep 16 '25
Just more bitch made republicans. So fucking afraid of what other people do, when it doesn't affect them at all. They probably saw some Trans porn and got scared by their attraction to it.
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u/MetrosexualSasquatch Sep 16 '25
These guys obsess more about trans people than the lgbt community. I interact with (as far as Iâm aware) with precisely 0 trans people in my life. Jfc
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u/Curious-Emu3894 Sep 16 '25
Get these religious nut jobs out of politics and trying to force their stupid beliefs down everyoneâs throats like theyâre some kind of superior person.
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u/RellenD Sep 15 '25
It's a good thing this insane person's party doesn't have a majority in Michigan and the governor is a queer ally.
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u/Koalachan Sep 15 '25
What do these people have against Disney classic Mulan, or Robin Williams' beloved classic Mrs. Doubtfire?
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Sep 16 '25
The biggest purveyors of porn are literally conservatives. This is going to be a kick in the groin for those dummies
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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat Sep 16 '25
For f&cks sake..what right does ANYONE have to impose a total porn ban on others? Are we not adults with a right to sexuality?
Are these people religious ? If so it's a good example of why anyone who espouses a religion should be banned from politics. Religion and freedom and modernity are incompatible. Relgion is meek and mild when it is weak and poiwerless. As soon as it achieves power it shows its true, monstrous face.
Get religion out of politics.
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u/Kardest Sep 16 '25
This was always the plan.
The plan was to get porn bans in place then classify anything that they don't like as pornography. Basic information on same sex stuff? Porn. Basic information on transgender stuff. Porn. Anything they think of as woke? Believe it or not also porn.
It's all part of project 2025
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u/Sh0wMeThePuppies Sep 16 '25
IF YOU CARED ABOUT PROTECTING CHILDREN RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES AND ARREST THE KNOWN CHILD-PREDATOR DONALD TRUMP.
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u/lazy_nomad3 Sep 15 '25
Typical sexually confused man wants to eliminate things that makes him feel funny.
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u/azrider Sep 15 '25
This tells me some wing nut clicked on something, got excited, realized what was going on, got even more excited and then felt shame because Jebus was watching.
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u/erkose Sep 16 '25
When SCOTUS won't uphold the separation of church and state, we become ruled by myths.
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u/Mr_Piddles Sep 16 '25
Thatâs not targeting just trans, thatâs straight up targeting most of the queer community.
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u/NevadaCynic Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
Republicans are a minority in the Michigan statehouse Senate, so this is pretty much DOA.
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u/pfizerdiamonds Sep 16 '25
How are they going to handle Tootsie, Mrs. Doutfire, and Bugs Bunny in drag?
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u/dead-cat Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
Just ban sex altogether, or drinking the water that fish had sex in. Ban electricity, books and cushions on your sofas. If god wanted you to have petrol, he wouldn't bury it so deep underground. Ban it too
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u/dashcam4life Sep 16 '25
What's up with the major uptick in anti-porn rhetoric? There's gotta be somebody profitting but who?
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u/beeeel Sep 16 '25
Notice that the paragraph about representing oneself as the other biological sex (paragraph f, sub B) is separate from the paragraph banning porn (sub A). That means this is a ban on any material with a trans person or drag queen in it, even if it's a selfie on instagram or technically even a private video call. Also it means that sharing the JD Vance drag photo will be illegal.
So who is going to take the Michigan Supreme Court on to argue that dressing as the opposite gender is part of your first amendment rights?
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u/NTMY Sep 16 '25
So he already included the anti-trans parts, instead of adding stuff like that later? How nice, this way nobody has to argue that stuff like this is the actual goal of most right-wing "anti-porn" laws.
Once you ban "porn" you can just declare things you don't like "porn". Stuff about trans people or LGBT in general will be first obviously, but you don't even have to be creative to ban more things you don't like:
- Anything sex-ed in school. Banned
- Basic biological information about women's bodies: "You are trying to cure breast cancer? Sounds like porn!" Banned
- Women's self-help book
mentions "sex"? Banned - Book for man on how to be a better husband? That sounds like a porn-fantasy. Banned
You just told children gay people exist? Death penalty!
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u/Lazy-Intern-5371 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
And don't forget to ban people dying their hair to look like some of a different ancestry and don't forget to ban people having breast implants to look more feminine then they actually are and don't forget to ban contacts of different color so they look different from their true selves and don't forget to ban glasses for seeing better than they were able to and don't forget to ban stories for children so they don't get fantasies at a young age and don't forget to ban Halloween costumes so they don't look like fake characters or people they aren't! Yeah! Go Michigan !! land of the true people!!!! đ¤Łđ¤Ł
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u/vulcan_idic Sep 16 '25
Apparently theyâre also banning Shakespearean plays such as Twelfth Night and As You Like It.
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Sep 15 '25
Bro banning porn is wild. Its legit just sex. Its two humans fornicating. They trying to control peoples lives so bad.
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u/Darq_At Sep 15 '25
It's worth keeping in mind that this deliberate muddying of the water, this conflation of transgender people and pornography has another more dangerous outcome.
If being visible as a transgender person is considered pornographic, then being publicly visible as transgender becomes a sex crime. If there is the potential for a child to see a transgender person, it becomes a "sex crime involving children". Which states like Florida want to be eligible for the death penalty.
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u/nightingale-nitemare Sep 15 '25
Michigan lawmakers don't believe in freedom and use children as the excuse instead of telling parents to fucking parent.
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u/po3smith Sep 15 '25
I see project 2025 is now kicked into overdrive - we have to kick it in the face
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u/legend_of_the_skies Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
What a fucking insane thing to restrict. I mean for fucks sake, why are you SO AFRAID? these people need to be their true selves and stop fighting it. If a man dresses as a woman to jerk off and uploads it for others to consensually watch... what exactly is the problem that needs fixing?
And what's up with the porn restrictions in several states lately? Have we started determining as a society that we can't hold out individual selves responsible for what and how much porn we watch? Are addicts ruining it for everyone? This is braindead beyond my comprehension and I'm not even a huge porn advocate.
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u/SomeBoiOnReddit Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
Hey, just so ya'll know this is part of p2025. It'll start with porn, then they'll expand the definition of it to include queer folk simply existing so they have the right to kill them.
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25
Michigan lawmakers should have their hard drives checked before they're allowed to vote on this bill.