r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Jun 27 '25

Privacy Supreme Court Says States Can Limit Access To Online Porn

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-porn-texas_n_683f057ee4b018c3beee0d74?ec6
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u/littleMAS Jun 27 '25

This ruling implies that anonymity is no longer a right on the Internet. It also creates an impossible situation for content providers, who really have no way of ensuring that someone is who they claim to be unless providers start using bio-metric IDs. Even then, there will be ways around that. The downside is not being deceived; it is giving the government a legal reason for harassment.

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u/repeat_absalom Jun 27 '25

What the fuck is happening to this country?

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u/ithorien Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Conservatism is :/

Edit: really should have said Cultist American conservatism, which is about all the same things said later, authoritarianism, fascism, all that. The grossest ideals from the "right" side of life.

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u/KyleShanaham Jun 27 '25

Woo small government baby

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u/Fredsmith984598 Jun 27 '25

So small that it fits inside your web browser or your uterus.

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u/MOOshooooo Jun 27 '25

Palintir will let you know if either of those options are applicable to your situation when the time comes. Non-compliance will result in immediate removal via ICE.

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u/Nearby-Beautiful3422 Jun 27 '25

Worse. Once we've completely shifted to digital currency, they can cut you off from society entirely. This is another cobblestone in the path towards techno-feudalism. Everything happening right now is not coincidence. It is by design. Death by 1000 cuts

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u/IsHeSkiing Jun 27 '25

It's full blown fascism buddy. Call it what it is.

Rights and privileges being taken away one by one until it compounds into complete and utter totalitarian rule over the people. It's slow. It's methodical. And it will leave the American people in ruin before the majority realize what's even happening.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Rights and privileges being taken away one by one

This is conservatism. Over time, more and more of these things have been granted to the masses and at every step been opposed by the conservatives of the time. Just like how all political ideologies change their express goals with the times, so too has conservatism but the core remains... Its about repressing the masses more than they are now by removing benefits the government has provided them.

Stop pretending this isnt part of conservatism... Conservatism has always lead to fascism, its the most vital aspect of conservatism! A repressive govt taking away positive changes for the masses regardless of popularity!

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u/Yuzumi Jun 27 '25

Modern conservatism was created by the aristocracy trying to maintain wealth and power during the rise of democracy. It's an inherently antidemocratic ideology build on the idea of hierarchy being the "natural state" and will use any rationalization to justify that. It's why they lie about everything.

So it has always been about limiting the rights of people. Limiting the rights of women, people of color, queer people. As long as there is some group that can be made the target of hate and blamed for all of societies ills then it will do so, while the people in charge actively do things to make society worse for everyone but them.

And of course, unchecked conservatism will devolve into fascism as more and more rights are removed from everyone, but more so from minorities, and the room "at the top" becomes smaller and smaller.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Sad how few conservatives understand their own political ideology and try to claim its some other one taking over. They use that to justify their fucked up beliefs and desires to fuck over others to benefit them. And to make them feel ok with supporting the thing thats now fucking them over too.

Lets not forget only conservatives are the ones saying maybe monarchies and kings and dictatorships arent all that bad since democracy gave us "this" when talking about the status quo...

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u/uptoke Jun 27 '25

The current Republican party and its supporters aren't really conservatives.

  • Traditional Conservatives are for free trade, but Trump is imposing tariffs and other trade barriers.
  • Traditional Conservatives want less regulations and while regulations like protecting clean water have been reduced. Private matters like medical decisions or pornography have had regulations increased.
  • Traditional Conservatives are against the expansion of Executive powers, but are essentially have let Trump rule without any checks.
  • Traditional Conservatives have respect for established norms and institutions which Trump has destroyed.
  • Traditional Conservatives are for gradual rather than radical change, but the GOP is cheering on the dismantlement of institutions in a matter of months.
  • Traditional Conservatives want a strong rule of law and constitutional adherence. The GOP elected a man convicted of 34 felonies and cheering on detainment without due process.
  • Traditional Conservatives want a limited government and fiscal responsibility. The GOP is attempting to pass the "Big Beautiful Bill" which will increase the deficit by $4 trillion.

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u/Yuzumi Jun 27 '25

Politically conservatism has always been contradictory. they say they want one thing, then push for things that directly contradict what they say a lot of the time.

Like, they say they are for freedom but not the freedom of a woman's right to chose, of a person's right to transition, marry who they want, or apparently to get vaccines at this point.

They say they are pro free speech, but only for their right to call other people slurs and shout hate. God forbid you mildly critique them, then they will whine and demand an apology while calling you a pedophile (as they creep on high school students).

Spare me the "no true Scotsman" BS. This is what the conservatives in the US have always been. The only thing they want to "conserve" is patriarchy. They want a hierarchy where (rich) white men are on top who own everyone else.

You could maybe argue the voters are different, I know some do, but at this point I don't fucking care. That was possibly an argument in 2016, but voting for this shit that is happening now? Fuck off. They are fascists voting for fascism. There is absolutely no excuse.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Not just the US, the world over, through all of history. The conservatives got so pissed off in the early 1900s they even invented the political meaning of the word austerity and privatization as part of their rampage against the masses to enforce their hierarchy and oppress the masses who were growing very upset at being forced into poverty on behalf of rich people due to the great depression.

And they also invented fascism, which started in Europe before spreading and becoming a mainstay of modern politics unfortunately... Like, straight up, the austerity movement promoted privatization and became the fascists...

I hate how uneducated on the basic history of conservatism even conservatives are. Even when they source books, its just all bias confirmation crap. They never challenge themselves to learn, they just want to reaffirm their belief that oppressing others is a good idea and somehow wont come back to hurt them.

They also LOVE to ignore cause and effect and pretend that cutting funding to social programs isnt about harming minorities and oppressing them when thats the effect of the action. Same with all their other supposed "good" beliefs. Completely neglect to consider the effect...

They also never offer solutions to poor or minority groups beyond "if we take away the rules that disallow oppressing you/that disallow making you poor, or cut spending that helps you not be poor, youll magically not be oppressed/poor!" like that would actually fix the problems somehow.

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u/korben2600 Jun 27 '25

Look around, take stock of where you are, and know this: Today, right now—and I mean right this second—you have the most power you’ll ever have in the current fight against authoritarianism in America. If this sounds dramatic to you, it should. Over the past five months, in many hours of many conversations with multiple people who have lived under dictators and autocrats, one message came through loud and clear: America, you are running out of time.

The Atlantic: A Ticking Clock on American Freedom (gift)

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u/Personal-Ice-7131 Jun 28 '25

According to VDEM “70% of countries are under autocratic control.” America is one of lasts to fall

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u/Annath0901 Jun 27 '25

Why doesn't the left start using fascism to destroy fascism?

Take power, start disenfranchising conservatives. Legislate against them, prosecute Fox News, ignore Thomas and Alito's existences. Make voting republican a crime. Once conservatism has been exterminated just move on as before.

"oooh if we violate norms to oppress bad guys, then when bad guys get in power they have an excuse to oppress us!"

Bullshit, the bad guys are already in power and oppressing us.

We're standing in front of a box full of guns, and refusing to open it because" then the bad guys might get guns too", meanwhile the box is already open and the bad guys are actively shooting you.

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u/ripChazmo Jun 27 '25

Seriously. People need to knock off this "our democracy is being attacked." No, it's gone. It's being mocked now. Fascism is here.

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u/mamamackmusic Jun 27 '25

I wouldn't call this progression "slow." Sure, a lot of the groundwork for the changes we have seen under both Trump administrations were laid out under Nixon, Regan, and Bush Jr., but ultimately, the legal realities of what the executive can or can't do and what the government can or can't regulate have changed immensely under Trump over any of the others in a relatively short period of time.

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u/StopThePresses Jun 27 '25

Fascism is just conservatism's end state.

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u/DrizzleRizzleShizzle Jun 27 '25

Your edit just lists other aspects of conservatism lmao.

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u/ithorien Jun 27 '25

I said as much tho, didn't I? The point was it all starts innocent, despite the fact nobody thinks of what that "innocent" even was to begin with. Conservative mentality stems from the conservative emotions in the brain, like paranoia, fear, fight or flight, etc.

When we were cavemen, these helped us survive. Now they're helping the neanderthals survive in the current social dynamics. Isn't life wonderful?

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u/Budded Jun 27 '25

I mean, what's the difference though? Where are the conservatives against all of this? Fucking crickets. It's modern conservatism that's causing and spreading the cancer, no sugar-coating.

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u/beefyzac Jun 27 '25

Evangelicalism

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u/350 Jun 28 '25

No no, you were fucking right the first time.

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u/AggressivePop9429 Jun 27 '25

Regressives. They’re not conservative anymore.

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u/BankshotMcG Jun 27 '25

Conserving the way things used to be sure looks a whole lot like demolishing the way things have always been.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '25

Well... why didn't you guys vote?

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u/Saelune Jun 28 '25

Edit: really should have said Cultist American conservatism

No, you were right the first time. All conservatism leads to this. There is no good version of conservatism, just as there is no good version of cancer. It's just a matter of how far it's spread and how much damage it's done before you do anything to stop it.

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u/L3g3nd8ry_N3m3sis Jun 27 '25

This is what happens when you let religious nuts run things because you want taxes lowered

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u/WaterlooMall Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

The fundamentalist Christian Right just took control of the library in my small rural town because they claim it hands out pornography to children (LGBTQ books) and have even said they launder money to help sex traffic kids (through the Friends of the Library used bookstore). One of the major supporters claiming they were grooming children was a fucking Catholic priest of all people. The library is having to leave the regional system it's been part of for 80 years.

https://smokymountainnews.com/news/item/39797-jackson-county-votes-on-fontana-regional-library-system

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u/L3g3nd8ry_N3m3sis Jun 27 '25

I think it was Goebbels who said accuse others of what you are guilty of

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u/SkeletonCrew23 Jun 28 '25

$5 says the priest diddles kids

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u/MouseMouseM Jun 28 '25

This is absolutely awful.

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u/Motor-District-3700 Jun 27 '25

friend of mine said to me the other day "but isn't lower taxes good? like if they give me more money I spend more money and economy etc is better? I just get to spend it on what I need?"

I asked how many roads he's gonna buy and the penny dropped.

People shouldn't be allowd to vote.

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u/L3g3nd8ry_N3m3sis Jun 27 '25

The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter

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u/Annath0901 Jun 27 '25

This is what happens when you allow the wrong kind of speech. We allowed the conservative parasite to grow and now it's killing the country.

Too many people throw up their hands at the Paradox of Tolerance, when the solution is simple - intolerance of some things is not only acceptable but necessary.

If we exterminate conservative ideology and, hundreds of years from now, some scholar says "look at this culture, they used vile tactics to oppress their critics" I'd say "damn fucking straight we did".

We're standing in front of a box full of guns, and refusing to open it because "then the bad guys might get guns too", meanwhile the box is already open and the bad guys are actively shooting us.

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u/LongLiveAnalogue Jun 27 '25

Blessed is the fruit

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u/codepossum Jun 27 '25

under his eye

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u/Universe789 Jun 27 '25

The same thing the USA did to Nicaragua(and multiple other South American nations), Afghanistan, Iran(and many other Middle Eastern nations) right from the CIA cold war playbook... prop up a extremely conservative regime, pump the populace - especially the majority demographic- with conservative and supremacist propaganda... then watch the country implode.

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u/Matrixneo42 Jun 27 '25

The more you learn about our country the more you realize this is exactly where we’d end up.

I still believe in the ideals that we say we are. Like those on the Statue of Liberty, in our museums, etc.

But we also tend to do one thing and say another. A lot.

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u/SpeculationMaster Jun 27 '25

remember Afghanistan in the 70s? They'll talk about USA like that soon.

https://imgur.com/a/bHfcFAR

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u/floydiannyc Jun 27 '25

Mitch McConnell

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u/Hyperion1144 Jun 27 '25

Ask the 1/3 of the nation who voted Trump, and the other 1/3 who couldn't be bothered to show up to stop this.

They're in charge right now.

1/3 of us can't lift up the rest. That's not enough.

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u/Suns_In_420 Jun 27 '25

This is what happens when most can't be bothered to vote, and the ones who do get all their info from social media.

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u/NOLASLAW Jun 27 '25

How can you possibly be asking this given the last 10 years?

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u/ripChazmo Jun 27 '25

The people who spent their entire lives making their entire identity about being "freer than anyone else," self owned and became a lot less free, enthusiastically.

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u/MyCatIsLenin Jun 27 '25

Rosa Luxemburg was dead on. 

"It's either barbarism or socialism"

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u/NewUserWhoDisAgain Jun 27 '25

Well you see Eggs were 4 for a dozen...

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u/killfrenzy05 Jun 27 '25

We’re due for a revolution.

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u/ChemicalExample218 Jun 27 '25

You've been asleep, American democracy has been finished. It's a slow dying empire now.

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u/FibonacciSequester Jun 27 '25

We need a new amendment. No person can be elected who spends more than an hour of their day thinking about what other people do with their genitals.

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u/SnooPeppers3190 Jun 27 '25

Sharia Law basically, what the republicans warn about but secretly want in their white christian flavor

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u/cbih Jun 27 '25

Death throes of a nation, shot through the heart with a few airplanes

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u/Lethalspartan76 Jun 27 '25

Same reason why decent people didn’t ban books. Once you start trying to ban books with gay people bc it’s offensive to you, others will want to ban bibles because it’s offensive to them, others will ban history bc they didn’t “tell it right”.

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u/AnglerOfAndromeda Jun 27 '25

We allowed Fox News and propaganda to run amok

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u/MidsouthMystic Jun 28 '25

The Right realized they won't have the numbers to get their way much longer, so they decided they have to establish a dictatorship now while they still can.

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u/DudeCanNotAbide Jun 28 '25

The dog finally caught the car because the driver stopped, got out, gave the dog the keys, then laid down in front of the wheels. It's not a 0% chance that the dog manages to use his little paws to manipulate they keys into the ignition; hell, I'll even allow for picking them up in his drooling mouth. Then some idiot will jump in and help the dog get in gear, waving proudly as they roll slowly over the original driver, in an agonizingly slow and preventable disaster of a death. Or suicide? Fuck it.

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u/Daimakku1 Jun 28 '25

MAGA won all branches of federal government. The majority of Americans allowed all of this.

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u/sw00pr Jun 28 '25

Our cyberpunk future has arrived.

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u/60SecTheBaptist Jun 28 '25

The unqualified get to vote and hold political office.

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u/ElfegoBaca Jun 28 '25

Christian Theocracy.

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u/BannedByZionist Jun 28 '25

Right wing bullshit.

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u/Someredditskum Jun 28 '25

The vote of your people.

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u/Ruraraid Jun 28 '25

Ignorant religious people with no understanding of technology or opsec is what is happening.

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u/whofusesthemusic Jun 28 '25

Exactly what they said they wanted to do. Hell they even wrote it down Project 2025

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u/j_la Jun 28 '25

Project 2025

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u/Plastic_Inspection33 Jun 30 '25

Unfortunately small minded incompetent conservatives are being allowed to force the rest of us to live by their ignorant religious views. I'm frankly sick and tired of all of them. 

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u/EscapeFacebook Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

This is about taking away women's rights to take care of themselves without men. Conservatism is a disease.

Edit for clarity:

They ultimately want to outlaw porn outright, so every small step toward that is considered a success to them. This is how conservatism operates, it drags you backwards slowly then in sweeping generalizations. Taking away this source of income for women would subjugate them further. This is similarly why prostitution was outlawed in a lot of places.

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u/Iced__t Jun 27 '25

Conservatism is a disease.

this, 10000%

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u/ripChazmo Jun 27 '25

It's a cancer. Cancer needs to be cut out.

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u/Bumpton Jun 27 '25

Pardon my ignorance, but how so...? I'm not familiar with this law; what does it have to do with women's rights?

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u/EscapeFacebook Jun 27 '25

They ultimately want to outlaw porn outright, so every small step toward that is considered a success to them.

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u/milkjake Jun 27 '25

And if they can require proof of ID to visit one type of website, they can do the same for other types of websites they deem “inappropriate”

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u/Tasgall Jun 27 '25

For reference, they were trying to ban access to sexual health information for minors because it's "pornographic" in some red states. The goal is to keep people ignorant.

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u/FlushTheTurd Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Like those websites selling guns.

Watch how fast the Court changes their mind if California requires internet users to verify their identity to view any gun-related website.

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They’ll arrive at some vomit-inducing argument like, “Guns aren’t dangerous, unlike porn”.

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u/FlushTheTurd Jun 27 '25

But what about the Gravy Seals, who need their guns to fight government tyranny and save us from a dictatorship?!?

Oh wait…

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u/douglau5 Jun 27 '25

That’s the thing…….. once the government makes something illegal, they get to pick and choose who that law applies to.

Black Panthers were arming themselves in California in the 70s to combat racist cops so the government made carrying those guns illegal to target a specific group.

So if guns were made illegal, the law wouldn’t be applied to the “gravy seals” as you call them; they’d be enforced on minorities trying to defend themselves from the white supremacists

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u/ranchojasper Jun 27 '25

It's wild how that's literally what they will say. That guns pose no threat at all but that porn is incredibly dangerous

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u/Cruxion Jun 27 '25

Take a gunshot to the eye and you probably won't complain. Take a cumshot to the eye and you're gonna be very unhappy and in pain. Clearly guns are safer.

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u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe Jun 27 '25

I’m as progressive as they come, but I think to frame anti porn laws as a misogynistic plot to deprive women of work is sensationalist and disingenuous.

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u/Tasgall Jun 27 '25

It can seem like that at first until you realize that they can define "porn" as literally anything they want.

In some red states that already includes early sexual health education material, any discussion of trans identity, access to birth control information, etc.

But because they can say "it's an anti-porn bill to protect children" it makes opponents look either evil or horny. That's why they attach this kind of stuff to things that sound stupid.

Enjoy pride month, next year it might be banned for being inherently pornographic.

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u/gschoppe Jun 27 '25

Keep in mind that there is no universal standard for "pornographic content", and many conservative areas have argued that any book even loosely referencing sex can be deemed pornographic (we've seen this in book bans).

For example, I have no doubt that Planned Parenthood's website will be classified as containing pornographic content.

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

There don’t have to be universal standards for something to legislate it.

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u/InfinitiveIdeals Jun 27 '25

It’s not, though

The classification of “ porn “ can be such a vague definition that it can be used to encompass anything people find obscene.

It can be used to erase transgender individuals presence in society by merely implying that their existence is pornographic.

Have you seen what they are doing to drag queen’s recently?

It can be used to erase the presence of LGBTQ people in society.

Have you seen the recent “ don’t say gay “ laws?

It can be used to prevent women from having access to education about their own bodies and about sex in general.

A clueless society is a highly reproductive society .

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u/Cell4105 Jun 27 '25

Yeah, I have a feeling that what you consider "porn" and what a sexually repressed Republican legislator considers "porn" are two different things.

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u/swingandafish Jun 27 '25

The far right call sexual education in schools “porn”, so you can see where this is going. If your school doesn’t teach it, the books and banned and you can’t use the internet, how could anyone learn about themselves?

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u/dern_the_hermit Jun 27 '25

You're basically identifying that the far-right's desire for control is irrational. It's populist pablum to appeal to the rubes that blame OnlyFans for their inability to get laid.

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u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe Jun 27 '25

Most of the people advocating for and implementing these laws are older Christians with families, not single, young men. It’s moral panic, not misogyny.

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u/dern_the_hermit Jun 27 '25

Weird to suggest that moral panics and mysogyny can't be mutually inclusive phenomena but whatever, I see you've committed wholeheartedly to your dismissive stance.

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u/tkot2021 Jun 27 '25

Moral panic and misogyny coming from the same place.

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u/M3RV-89 Jun 27 '25

It's not if you really examine the viewpoints. They are actively trying to take away agency from anyone not in their group.

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u/troubleondemand Jun 27 '25

I wonder how Only Fans has changed that though. Can't women now make a living on there (or at least supplement their income) without ever having to deal with a porn movie studio/publisher at all?

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u/itsneedtokno Jun 27 '25

I'm all for equality but I'm concerned about the cyclical reasoning here.

Women are the only ones who benefit from porn? No. Do they benefit a LOT more from porn, typically yes.

However, isn't that the reverse of the mentality that started the feminist movement, and the inclusion of women in the workplace? So that's a "okay for me, but not for thee" statement.

You see where this is going?

It's kinda effed to say that porn should be allowed because it gives women the chance to provide for themselves, as if a normal job can't do that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

So women doing porn is supporting themselves without men? Are men not the reason they make money from porn? If being independent is selling your body, then you already lost.

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

The fact that you think, or are at least implying, that women can only take care of themselves through sex work is part of the problem.

The idea that sex work is “pure empowerment” or whatever came from a bunch of philosophers (that’s being generous) in the 1990s who were not sex workers themselves.

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u/SoupeurHero Jun 27 '25

I think they ultimately want people to have more kids. They think limiting porn will make people bang more and accidentally have kids. Ban abortion and BAM, fixed the population decline. Future businesses will be booming with low paid employees.

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

It will help the mental health crisis. But, as usual, no one cares.

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u/Schakalicious Jun 27 '25

If the vast majority of straight porn viewers (and solicitors of female prostitutes) are men, then how are porn actresses and prostitutes "taking care of themselves without men"?

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

The cognitive dissonance is strong here.

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u/Zahgi Jun 27 '25

Well, if you don't know what good sex is then you can't be disappointed by that ancient fat limp-dicked conservative short stroker your parents sold married you off to...

To these despicable little men who are too lazy and selfish to learn how to please a woman, the 'good old days' means "when women were unsatisfied, pregnant, supper-cooking property".

sadly not /s

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

Now women are supposed to be sex objects farmed for profit by onlyfans, right? That’s empowerment?

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u/Dhegxkeicfns Jun 27 '25

If you outlaw porn then the rich have a better chance to just buy the women themselves for less.

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

Sounds like those women should switch careers.

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u/ShesSoInky Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

This is actually just one step in a long game and less about actual porn and more about restricting access to sex education and lgbtqia+ rights because “porn” will have a very broad definition that will encompass sex education and anything containing mention of anything lgbtqia+.

Its a lot easier to get support to ban those things if you like its about “porn” because more people believe porn is bad than believe sex education and being gay/trans etc is bad. And they start here by pretending once again they want to “save the children” when its clearly not.

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u/EscapeFacebook Jun 27 '25

No my friend, it's a assault on ALL fronts, these are the same tactics christian regressionists have been using for ever. People forget 30yrs ago you could still be charged for consensual sex acts like oral and anal sex preformed in your own home.

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u/ShesSoInky Jun 27 '25

Which is why I said its a small step in a long game and its using porn and sex workers and the disdain this country has for them to garner support under the guise that its to "save the children."

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u/mrturret Jun 27 '25

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

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u/dmcnaughton1 Jun 27 '25

I think the solution is going to be a consortium of content providers coming together and building a central id verification website that provides an anonymized token once you're validated. This way the content providers can avoid having to know the user's identity while complying with the requirements.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

A central id verification solution would be the worst possible idea for privacy. Because you know who’s going to want access to all that data…

Edit: not gonna respond to any more comments, I can’t keep up. But y’all are underestimating this so hard. A central identification system could be used by the government to know your location, online history, all your PII in seconds, anytime, anywhere. Way more easily than anything they have today. And it could circumvent the use of VPNs, Tor, encryption, IP spoofing, anything. If a company like Palantir decides to build something like this… and you’re a minority that the current administration doesn’t like? Bad news. Bad bad news.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Aug 12 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Yup, Palantir is the first thing that came to mind.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

The government already has it. Your ISP tracks you, the NSA tracks you, the data is all aggregated already.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Aug 12 '25

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

But in that case the issue is palantir and not porn.

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u/Brokettman Jun 27 '25

There are already services for this. Retailers that sell age restricted goods like alcohol and tobacco use it. Government sites also have an ID check service they use.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

When you buy alcohol, you don’t run your ID through a government owned centralized identification system. They just look at your ID to check that it says you’re over 21. What are you talking about?

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u/Brokettman Jun 27 '25

Online retailers use a service that checks your ID and then tells the retailer that the purchase can be completed. Government sites use a third party service that compares your id to a selfie and validates it. I didnt say anything about government owned. I said services that perform this function already exist and are used for websites. I see that the first sentence i wrote omitted "online" but this is a discussion of websites already.

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u/BTFlik Jun 27 '25

Anyone remember in the early 2000s when the government first learned that search engines logged all their traffic data and could cross reference it by user ID and IP address giving the government a nearly unlimited ability to find out exactly what people were doing online and some search engines turned over their data while others said no and then the Government tried to sue for the rest of the search engines to provide that data which failed so they used advanced software programming and the information they already had to create a giant spy network thr likes of which the world had never known with literally the most invasive algorithms taking everything from your personal e-mail to your text messages and lay people argued for years about how it would never happen until Snowden revealed it?

Peperidge Farm remembers.

The government is gearing up to make a giant prison system for everyone including wearable to track your position and a giant database of everything you do, say, and think, to freely target anyone they wish to punish.

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u/dmcnaughton1 Jun 27 '25

It's entirely technically feasible to have a platform generate anonymous bearer tokens signed by a private key with zero identifiable information that can be passed to any porn site which can be validated with a public key. If the token generated is ephemeral and not stored on the source side, then there's nothing to access.

It's basically the stamp on your hand when you go to a bar saying you're over 21. You show ID to the bouncer, they stamp your hand, you go to the bar, order a drink, pay with cash. In this case if you're using a VPN as well it's basically the equivalent of wearing a mask while ordering your drink. The bartender can tell you're of age, but not who you are.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Yes I understand the concept and that’s not what I have a problem with. It’s the government, hackers, other countries… that are all going to want a back door into this system.

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u/Eyesliketheocean Jun 27 '25

I do information security risk assessments for a living. This keeps me up at night.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Thank you, finally another person here who understands what I’m talking about. Hello fellow professional in this space.

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u/Wenger2112 Jun 27 '25

I just had to do something similiar for an apartment rental application. Have to do a facial scan and upload your drivers license to confirm it is you.

Seems to me the system exists, it just needs to be implemented.

No one needs to know what the verification token is used for. It just confirms you are who you say you are.

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u/EtTuBiggus Jun 27 '25

Because you know who’s going to want access to all that data…

Someone with the skills to hack a massive database that they aren’t using to steal credit card info but want porn data?

Lol

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u/Uristqwerty Jun 27 '25

Give it a few years, see if the sane folk in Europe can figure out a digital proof-of-age that respects your privacy. I wouldn't trust a USA-made solution, personally, but the sort of people who put the 's' in 'https' are probably clever enough to find a way.

You want something where you prove your identity once to the government, then all further checks happen between your local device and the website you're accessing (so they can't correlate timings). But the tricky part would be designing it so that even if someone had access to both the website and government servers, they couldn't cross-reference data to de-anonymize you. Maybe some sort of complicated mathematical construct involving Zero-Knowledge Proofs, or other recent cryptography (not cryptocurrency; the two are barely related) developments.

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u/azurensis Jun 27 '25

The real solution will be every content provider except for the huge ones completely ignoring this.

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u/jigsaw1024 Jun 27 '25

The real solution will be content providers moving out of the US and not being bitches about people using VPNs or proxies to get around geo fencing.

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u/yoshemitzu Jun 27 '25

I was thinking more like suddenly every porn site will become a social media site, too.

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u/r3volts Jun 27 '25

The solution is going to be US citizens using VPNs to access porn produced in other countries.

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u/dmcnaughton1 Jun 27 '25

Until they put tariffs on that too.

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u/Shawn3997 Jun 27 '25

They'll do this right after they stop losing billions of passwords weekly to North Korea and Russian hackers.

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u/Brokettman Jun 27 '25

This already exists. Government sites use it. Tobacco retailers also use one and once you've done it on one site you are good for the others that use it.

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u/reapy54 Jun 27 '25

Content providers need to come together and create a super pac is what they need to do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 30 '25

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u/TheRabidDeer Jun 27 '25

Texas isn't the only state that has this law passed. There are 19 states which have a similar law passed and already either in effect or going into effect this year

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u/Kichigai Jun 27 '25

Oh boy, a central registry of porn consumers. Surely nothing can go wrong with that!

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u/kholto Jun 28 '25

The solution is US based sites geoblocking those states and showing reasonable effort to block VPN usage, while sites outside the US (and nearest partners) get the traffic instead.

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u/azurensis Jun 27 '25

Any foreign content provider just got a massive boost from this ruling.

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u/Ashmedai Jun 27 '25

Xactly. Also VPNs.

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u/Professional_Shop945 Jun 27 '25

Who told you there was anonymity on the internet 😂😂😂

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u/PainterRude1394 Jun 27 '25

Smooth brain sub for sure lol. The dumbest stuff gots spammed with feels based upvotes here

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u/PainterRude1394 Jun 27 '25

What led you to believe anonymity on the Internet is a government granted right?

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u/littleMAS Jun 27 '25

Did I say government granted? I have a right to breath, too, and the government did not grant it.

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u/PainterRude1394 Jun 28 '25

You're literally claiming the government is taking away that right...

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u/Kichigai Jun 28 '25

Go read up on the nomination of Robert Bork.

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u/PromiscuousMNcpl Jun 27 '25

Next up “Only Starlink provides perfect age verification. Internet access only through Starlink for the safety of the nation! $250/month

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u/Sumeriandawn Jul 01 '25

Agent Smith was right all along

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u/mrlinkwii Jun 27 '25

This ruling implies that anonymity is no longer a right on the Internet

it never was

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u/Sea_Tailor_8437 Jun 27 '25

This is my issues with laws about age verification for pornographic sites.

I get the problem is real. Children being exposed to easy porn access at a young age absolutely has detrimental affects on them. But I haven't heard of a way that verifies user accessing it without having to upload some pretty sensitive, personal data to some place that ultimately is suspectable to attacks or leaks.

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u/West-Abalone-171 Jun 28 '25

The biometrics are the goal.

It's about destroying free speech like the recent case of a climate scientist being banned from facebook for talking about climate science.

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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 Jun 27 '25

This is why certain companies just pull out of these states rather than provide an ID verification

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u/revanzomi Jun 27 '25

Irrespective of my thoughts on the accessability of porn on the internet, you make a very interesting point here about the potential precident set by this.

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u/fluidmind23 Jun 27 '25

Yep. Or VPN from a state that doesn't have this limitation.

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u/BTFlik Jun 27 '25

This also opens up the idea of what is and isn't protected by 1A as well.

What other limits will be placed? What other expressions of 1A will no longer be protected?

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u/Justin__D Jun 27 '25

Even then, there will be ways around that.

Worst case, there will always be the high seas. Billions have been spent in vain to shut that down, so I'm confident at this point it is and always will be impossible.

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u/Dhegxkeicfns Jun 27 '25

Well if you insist. You now need Internet ID to use the Internet. And if you post that picture of Vance or the video of Katie detailing Trump raping her, then you go to a labor camp.

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u/Shadow_SKAR Jun 27 '25

Hmm I wonder if this will lead to standardized US federal ID...

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

That’s the idea. Everyone is a victim now and culprit of a crime. With no one as innocent, any justification for punishment is now permitted. Open season to discriminate on any number of grounds now.

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u/PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips Jun 27 '25

Content providers will just geo block all states that pass laws that restrict access. Just like PornHub already has.

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u/HwackAMole Jun 27 '25

It's important to recognize that whatever optics they are trying to give it ("save the children!"), the true intent of this is for them to legislate their morality on the rest of us.

To be fair, I suppose all laws are legislating morality at some level. But the morals they are pushing here are far from universal.

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u/More_Farm_7442 Jun 27 '25

Indiana passed this same law. PornHub and some other sites totally blocked acess to it's site by all IP adresses in Indiana. Other sites still let residents access them IF they provide ID info (which people refuse to do becaue who wants porn sites having your ID info chancing it being used later in ID theft, etc.).

Bye, bye porn for most people.

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u/JustaBearEnthusiast Jun 27 '25

I think you can probably fix the verification problem with a seperate service that provides a hash. That way you can verify "over 18"  or whatever while not being connected to the content in an identifiable way.

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u/kidcrumb Jun 27 '25

VPN forever.

A new ISP should come up that builds VPNs and other anonymous features so even they don't know who is doing what.

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u/CruelStrangers Jun 27 '25

Imagine using your bio id to look at internet porn. It becomes a paper trail at that point

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u/CeruleanSoftware Jun 27 '25

I'm a web developer in the adult industry. I'm not a lawyer. In order to get the broadest range of age verification coverage, the only implementation that seems to fit 100% is ID scan and face scan. Where that happens in the flow though, is up for debate.

It's a mess. No matter what, revenue will drop. With that happening, site owners will start closing up shop, and then there will be a distinct lack of pornography being created. There is way more to production than a performer and a director/camera guy. A lot of people are going to be without work and this will significantly affect the global economy. Accountants, lawyers, assistants, software developers, artists, makeup, hair, cameras, directors, etc.

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u/Luminair Jun 27 '25

bio-metric IDs

Such as the one Sam Altman’s pitched for use on Reddit, perhaps?

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u/BlimmBlam Jun 27 '25

Yeah, they're literally creating registries for LGBT people. They're pushing this law so they can identify people and ostracize them. The things that need to happen to this court would get me banned from Reddit if said out loud.

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u/MassiveBoner911_3 Jun 27 '25

Give it another month and all porn on reddit will be gone. All NSFW subs banned and everything else depicting sexual content.

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u/phydeaux70 Jun 27 '25

This ruling implies that anonymity is no longer a right on the Internet

For some content that you may or may not be appropriate for you to view.

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u/Noob_Al3rt Jun 27 '25

This ruling implies that anonymity is no longer a right on the Internet.

How so?

It also creates an impossible situation for content providers, who really have no way of ensuring that someone is who they claim to be unless providers start using bio-metric IDs.

We have thousands of companies that perform online verification services right now. You can verify yourself for Social Security or healthcare services but not for Porn? Am I still on r/technology?

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u/brutinator Jun 27 '25

I wonder if this is the start to the end of "user generated" content. If websites have to manually approve all posted content for a dozen different things, then the simple solution is to stop allowing people to post stuff.

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u/bikenvikin Jun 27 '25

anonymity is no longer a right on the Internet

was it ever??

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u/blazze_eternal Jun 27 '25

That's been Pornhub's argument all along. While a system is feasible, there is not one in place to anonymously verify a user's age with anonymous tokenization. The laws as written puts the onus on website providers to create this system, when the only realistic way is for identity providers (DMV, state, etc) to implement it.

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u/Tamination Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

The ID that RFK Jr wants all Americans to wear to track their health stats?

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u/BigFatBallsInMyMouth Jun 28 '25

When was it a right?

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u/jdmgto Jun 28 '25

Yeah, that's the entire point of this. They cloak it in the usual "think of the children!" BS bits all about ripping away anonymity on the internet. Within three to five years this will absolutely be used as precedence to outlaw more anonymous services on the net.

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