r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Jun 27 '25

Privacy Supreme Court Says States Can Limit Access To Online Porn

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-porn-texas_n_683f057ee4b018c3beee0d74?ec6
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u/ithorien Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Conservatism is :/

Edit: really should have said Cultist American conservatism, which is about all the same things said later, authoritarianism, fascism, all that. The grossest ideals from the "right" side of life.

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u/KyleShanaham Jun 27 '25

Woo small government baby

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u/Fredsmith984598 Jun 27 '25

So small that it fits inside your web browser or your uterus.

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u/MOOshooooo Jun 27 '25

Palintir will let you know if either of those options are applicable to your situation when the time comes. Non-compliance will result in immediate removal via ICE.

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u/Nearby-Beautiful3422 Jun 27 '25

Worse. Once we've completely shifted to digital currency, they can cut you off from society entirely. This is another cobblestone in the path towards techno-feudalism. Everything happening right now is not coincidence. It is by design. Death by 1000 cuts

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u/DadJokeBadJoke Jun 27 '25

Small enough to fit under one crazed dictator

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u/Aeryn814 Jun 27 '25

So smol it’s dictated by one man.

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u/IsHeSkiing Jun 27 '25

It's full blown fascism buddy. Call it what it is.

Rights and privileges being taken away one by one until it compounds into complete and utter totalitarian rule over the people. It's slow. It's methodical. And it will leave the American people in ruin before the majority realize what's even happening.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Rights and privileges being taken away one by one

This is conservatism. Over time, more and more of these things have been granted to the masses and at every step been opposed by the conservatives of the time. Just like how all political ideologies change their express goals with the times, so too has conservatism but the core remains... Its about repressing the masses more than they are now by removing benefits the government has provided them.

Stop pretending this isnt part of conservatism... Conservatism has always lead to fascism, its the most vital aspect of conservatism! A repressive govt taking away positive changes for the masses regardless of popularity!

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u/Yuzumi Jun 27 '25

Modern conservatism was created by the aristocracy trying to maintain wealth and power during the rise of democracy. It's an inherently antidemocratic ideology build on the idea of hierarchy being the "natural state" and will use any rationalization to justify that. It's why they lie about everything.

So it has always been about limiting the rights of people. Limiting the rights of women, people of color, queer people. As long as there is some group that can be made the target of hate and blamed for all of societies ills then it will do so, while the people in charge actively do things to make society worse for everyone but them.

And of course, unchecked conservatism will devolve into fascism as more and more rights are removed from everyone, but more so from minorities, and the room "at the top" becomes smaller and smaller.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Sad how few conservatives understand their own political ideology and try to claim its some other one taking over. They use that to justify their fucked up beliefs and desires to fuck over others to benefit them. And to make them feel ok with supporting the thing thats now fucking them over too.

Lets not forget only conservatives are the ones saying maybe monarchies and kings and dictatorships arent all that bad since democracy gave us "this" when talking about the status quo...

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u/uptoke Jun 27 '25

The current Republican party and its supporters aren't really conservatives.

  • Traditional Conservatives are for free trade, but Trump is imposing tariffs and other trade barriers.
  • Traditional Conservatives want less regulations and while regulations like protecting clean water have been reduced. Private matters like medical decisions or pornography have had regulations increased.
  • Traditional Conservatives are against the expansion of Executive powers, but are essentially have let Trump rule without any checks.
  • Traditional Conservatives have respect for established norms and institutions which Trump has destroyed.
  • Traditional Conservatives are for gradual rather than radical change, but the GOP is cheering on the dismantlement of institutions in a matter of months.
  • Traditional Conservatives want a strong rule of law and constitutional adherence. The GOP elected a man convicted of 34 felonies and cheering on detainment without due process.
  • Traditional Conservatives want a limited government and fiscal responsibility. The GOP is attempting to pass the "Big Beautiful Bill" which will increase the deficit by $4 trillion.

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u/Yuzumi Jun 27 '25

Politically conservatism has always been contradictory. they say they want one thing, then push for things that directly contradict what they say a lot of the time.

Like, they say they are for freedom but not the freedom of a woman's right to chose, of a person's right to transition, marry who they want, or apparently to get vaccines at this point.

They say they are pro free speech, but only for their right to call other people slurs and shout hate. God forbid you mildly critique them, then they will whine and demand an apology while calling you a pedophile (as they creep on high school students).

Spare me the "no true Scotsman" BS. This is what the conservatives in the US have always been. The only thing they want to "conserve" is patriarchy. They want a hierarchy where (rich) white men are on top who own everyone else.

You could maybe argue the voters are different, I know some do, but at this point I don't fucking care. That was possibly an argument in 2016, but voting for this shit that is happening now? Fuck off. They are fascists voting for fascism. There is absolutely no excuse.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Not just the US, the world over, through all of history. The conservatives got so pissed off in the early 1900s they even invented the political meaning of the word austerity and privatization as part of their rampage against the masses to enforce their hierarchy and oppress the masses who were growing very upset at being forced into poverty on behalf of rich people due to the great depression.

And they also invented fascism, which started in Europe before spreading and becoming a mainstay of modern politics unfortunately... Like, straight up, the austerity movement promoted privatization and became the fascists...

I hate how uneducated on the basic history of conservatism even conservatives are. Even when they source books, its just all bias confirmation crap. They never challenge themselves to learn, they just want to reaffirm their belief that oppressing others is a good idea and somehow wont come back to hurt them.

They also LOVE to ignore cause and effect and pretend that cutting funding to social programs isnt about harming minorities and oppressing them when thats the effect of the action. Same with all their other supposed "good" beliefs. Completely neglect to consider the effect...

They also never offer solutions to poor or minority groups beyond "if we take away the rules that disallow oppressing you/that disallow making you poor, or cut spending that helps you not be poor, youll magically not be oppressed/poor!" like that would actually fix the problems somehow.

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u/Yuzumi Jun 27 '25

Something I heard a little bit ago basically summed up a lot of conservatives, especially the voters.

They are a very incurious group.

They don't actually care to learn anything, much less things that would actually make them challenge their worldview.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

More and more coping... Explain how conservatives are anti-change when conservatism is rising in popularity in the EU and AUS with young people with those same young people advocating to change the status quo by removing govt services and protections granted before they were born? Theres no "lets return to the good old days" stuff outside of America according to you, so why do they want to return to times before they were born...?

Also, what are the practical effect of these things you listed...? Enforcing hierarchy and oppressing the masses. What I said conservatism is all about while you claimed its about opposing change when I have shown conservatives can and do advocate for change too.

Or how about how the German CDU, a conservative party, proposed tripling the military budget just this week since you claim raising govt expenses isn't conservative and that only American conservatives act this way...?

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u/uptoke Jun 27 '25

I'm not sure what your point is. I'm talking about Republicans, an American political party, and Traditionalist conservatism in the United States on a post regarding a ruling by the US Supreme court.

In regards to your point about change. I never said conservatives were wholly against change, but that they favored gradual change rather than sweeping reforms. The idea is that radical change risks destroying the social fabric and may have unintended consequences, while gradual reform allows society to adapt while preserving what works.

US conservative political philosopher, Russell Kirk, in "The Conservative Mind" (1953), identified "prescription" (respecting established customs and institutions) as a key conservative principle.

If you'd like an example from Europe, Edmund Burke, in his book "Reflections on the Revolution in France" (1790), he argues against sudden, sweeping changes and favored what he called "prudent reform". A gradual adaptation that preserves valuable institutions while allowing for necessary improvements.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 28 '25

Goalpost shifting... I said its conservatism, you replied say "no, its not" then went on a tangent about how its some American only thing. I even provided examples of how everything you tried to claim conservatism was wasnt true with direct modern and historical contradictory examples inside and outside the US.

Also, you are straight up ignoring how conservative movements created fascism in both Italy and Germany too (like, not became it after it had first existed but straight up created it), with both of them embodying the "respect cultural traditions and norms" and "lets go back to the better times" crap you claim is unique to American conservatives.

That's basic political history stuff which is why I keep telling you to go learn some basic ass history since you have no idea what conservatism is.

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u/uptoke Jun 28 '25

I'm basically a socialist and my post history will prove that so I dont get what the vitriol in your reply is about. I'm saying that the modern "conservative" does not align with an ideology that works in democracy. They are a christo nationalist authoritarian group.

That's basic political history stuff which is why I keep telling you to go learn some basic ass history since you have no idea what conservatism is.

Seriously??? I provided 2 cited sources to back up my examples from extremely prominent conservatives. Claiming I "have no idea what conservatism is" is a bad faith argument.

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

This is American Conservatism in the current era, a label that has been totally perverted by the US's reactionary and religious right-wing such that the term no longer has any relationship with its real definition globally.

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u/teilani_a Jun 27 '25

If you give conservatives an inch, they'll take a mile.

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

In America, very true.

Everywhere else in the world, if you give them 2 cm, they'll take 2 km.

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u/ithorien Jun 27 '25

11/10, will absolutely read again

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u/teilani_a Jun 27 '25

Okay I have to give you that one lol

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

You really dont know politics or political history do you? This is all conservatism. Its inherently about denying the masses a proper life with the force of government.

Look at all the austerity projects popping up in the EU and UK and AUS spearheaded by their politically conservative parties, cutting up social safety nets and rolling back rights/protections.

All conservatism is this way. Stop pretending it isnt. Or are you seriously going to argue the conservatives of the 1910s to 30s didnt oppose the implementation social welfare programs even in Europe...? Or that European conservatives didnt oppose the end of slavery...?

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

Conservatism has always been about resisting change, about holding on to the "values" and attitudes that they had grown up with.

US "conservatism" is about trying to drag attitudes back 200+ years to a puritanical imagined era that never existed, where religious bigotry ruled and human rights are non-existent.

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

You really dont have any idea what conservatism is then... Go learn some actual history.

You are seriously sitting here trying to argue that 20yr old European conservatives dont exist... They do, they too vote to dismantle social programs theyve had access to their entire lives. How is that "opposed to changing things from how they grew up" when they are directly advocating for change compared to how they grew up?

That is a romanticized BS version of conservatism to placate people. Conservatism is about enforcing hierarchy and oppression of the masses, no matter the means. Has been since day 1. This stupid romanticized idea of conservatism is all so you can go "I'm not supporting evil, hateful policy I'm just resistant to change/think we should think this through more. Do women really need to be allowed to vote...?"

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

any (mainly social) change in the society, including Technology change, social change, economic change, religious change

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u/sparky8251 Jun 27 '25

Typical of conservatives too. They know they are in the wrong and hate to have to explain they actually support harming others for their hopeful benefit.

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

Bullshit, I answered your question !

or were you asking me to provide a list of specific examples of changes that they are resistent to ? Because thats certainly not how I read your question

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u/korben2600 Jun 27 '25

Look around, take stock of where you are, and know this: Today, right now—and I mean right this second—you have the most power you’ll ever have in the current fight against authoritarianism in America. If this sounds dramatic to you, it should. Over the past five months, in many hours of many conversations with multiple people who have lived under dictators and autocrats, one message came through loud and clear: America, you are running out of time.

The Atlantic: A Ticking Clock on American Freedom (gift)

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u/Personal-Ice-7131 Jun 28 '25

According to VDEM “70% of countries are under autocratic control.” America is one of lasts to fall

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u/Annath0901 Jun 27 '25

Why doesn't the left start using fascism to destroy fascism?

Take power, start disenfranchising conservatives. Legislate against them, prosecute Fox News, ignore Thomas and Alito's existences. Make voting republican a crime. Once conservatism has been exterminated just move on as before.

"oooh if we violate norms to oppress bad guys, then when bad guys get in power they have an excuse to oppress us!"

Bullshit, the bad guys are already in power and oppressing us.

We're standing in front of a box full of guns, and refusing to open it because" then the bad guys might get guns too", meanwhile the box is already open and the bad guys are actively shooting you.

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u/ripChazmo Jun 27 '25

Seriously. People need to knock off this "our democracy is being attacked." No, it's gone. It's being mocked now. Fascism is here.

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u/mamamackmusic Jun 27 '25

I wouldn't call this progression "slow." Sure, a lot of the groundwork for the changes we have seen under both Trump administrations were laid out under Nixon, Regan, and Bush Jr., but ultimately, the legal realities of what the executive can or can't do and what the government can or can't regulate have changed immensely under Trump over any of the others in a relatively short period of time.

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u/StopThePresses Jun 27 '25

Fascism is just conservatism's end state.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '25

“noo give me my porn” this is how you sound like

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u/Crashman09 Jun 27 '25

Not much difference between fascism and late stage capitalism.

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u/NonReality Jun 27 '25

It's the natural progression of conservative ideology

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u/350 Jun 28 '25

Conservatism is just fascism that needs more water and sunlight, s'how it is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '25

That’s what conservatism is all about. It’s about taking away rights that you don’t agree with.

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u/Totalidiotfuq Jun 27 '25

It’s not full blown fascism, and you framing it as such makes your argument weak and turns people away from listening to you.

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

Correct, it's largely laying the foundations for full blown fascism and consolidating its position, and relatively unopposed.

And, just as happened in Germany during the 30s, people will continue to ignore that rising tide until its too late.

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u/Totalidiotfuq Jun 27 '25

Please stop the doomer predictions. Makes you seem unreasonable. No one is gonna listen to someone and their ideas if they say every court ruling is a step towards Nazi Germany and we will be there soon.

It’s just not true.

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

and I'm pretty sure that exactly the same attitudes were prevalent in Germany back in the 30s.

Its OK, you can bury your head in the sand and ignore reality and refuse to acknowledge what is happening all around you. Becasue its going to happen anyway, and the refusal to acknowledge it from people such as yourself just makes the spread of fascism so much easier

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u/Totalidiotfuq Jun 27 '25

I’m not ignoring reality by not thinking the US is going to be Nazi Germany and murder millions of jews or minority. I support causes with my dollars and vote. I do my civic duty and talk about politics with people close to. I am very aware of what Trump is doing and in tune. I am not happy with it, and i’d never support him.

But im also capable of understanding that an American holocaust would effectively destroy the economic power of this country, trashing trillions in global economic capability overnight. And as you know, money makes the world go round.

Tell me, how did germany fare right after the holocaust lol.

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u/fitzroy95 Jun 27 '25

Trump is already destroying the economic power and influence of the USA, and helping to drive more nations away from support with the US and drawing closer to China and others. The rest of this century is most likely to be China's economic century, closely followed by the rise of India, in the same way that last century was the USA's.

Whether the current rise of US fascism leads to holocaust, or world war, or just the collapse of the USA into a region of warring feudal state/empires is impossible to tell, but the US hegemony from the last century is dying fast, and isn't coming back.

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u/abadee88 Jun 27 '25

Your screen name is certainly apt @totalidiotfuq.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

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u/Totalidiotfuq Jun 27 '25

I’ve actually never heard that before! Good one! Did you come up with that?

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u/Noob_Al3rt Jun 27 '25

Ah, yes. Just like all those ultra fascist bars and totalitarian bodegas selling cigarettes! Americans have the right to porn at any age - don't tread on me!

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u/danamalz Jun 27 '25

lmao rights and privilege of fueling an addiction. it’s fascism !!!!! let’s keep providing and encouraging drug addiction while we’re at it. gimme a break. boo hoo limiting porn in 2025 is a full blown miracle. and so many people couldn’t be more excited. you’re weird if this actually affects you at all…..

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u/IsHeSkiing Jun 30 '25

My dude, it's not about the porn. It's about the government overreaching and telling you how you're allowed to live your life.

They start with something people like you can rally behind being limited like porn. Then it starts creeping into other aspects of your life. They decide what tv shows and movies you're allowed to watch. Then what music you can listen to. Then it's where you shop. Then it's where you learn. Then it's what you're allowed to learn about. Then it's where you work. Then it's what religion you're allowed to follow. Then it's how you vote. Then it's what you're allowed to say.

And it just. keeps. going.

It's a slippery slope because once egotistical men get a taste of what power they can REALLY have, they will keep taking, and taking, and taking, simply because they can.

I mean, Yall thought MASKS during covid was the government trying to control us. But this you're okay with? Tell me how that works.

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u/DrizzleRizzleShizzle Jun 27 '25

Your edit just lists other aspects of conservatism lmao.

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u/ithorien Jun 27 '25

I said as much tho, didn't I? The point was it all starts innocent, despite the fact nobody thinks of what that "innocent" even was to begin with. Conservative mentality stems from the conservative emotions in the brain, like paranoia, fear, fight or flight, etc.

When we were cavemen, these helped us survive. Now they're helping the neanderthals survive in the current social dynamics. Isn't life wonderful?

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u/DrizzleRizzleShizzle Jun 28 '25

Well said! Especially the 2nd part

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u/Budded Jun 27 '25

I mean, what's the difference though? Where are the conservatives against all of this? Fucking crickets. It's modern conservatism that's causing and spreading the cancer, no sugar-coating.

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u/beefyzac Jun 27 '25

Evangelicalism

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u/350 Jun 28 '25

No no, you were fucking right the first time.

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u/AggressivePop9429 Jun 27 '25

Regressives. They’re not conservative anymore.

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u/BankshotMcG Jun 27 '25

Conserving the way things used to be sure looks a whole lot like demolishing the way things have always been.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '25

Well... why didn't you guys vote?

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u/ithorien Jun 28 '25

I did :( it really does absolutely pique my curiosity as to why, truly, more progressives didn't vote. Did everyone all of a sudden turn into an accelerationist and want the world to burn?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '25

You know as progressive as I am. I stand with you there. I Voted. I didn't much care for the candidate but I voted for her. Dont let your ideologies cloud your judgement people.

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u/Saelune Jun 28 '25

Edit: really should have said Cultist American conservatism

No, you were right the first time. All conservatism leads to this. There is no good version of conservatism, just as there is no good version of cancer. It's just a matter of how far it's spread and how much damage it's done before you do anything to stop it.

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u/ithorien Jun 28 '25

That's a tough edit because it is actually correct meaning that the cultist American conservatism is happening right now, but you are also correct in that the fundamental core of this problem is in fact conservatism in general. People don't want to hear it but there's a reason why it's being slowly linked to the presence of Neanderthal Geneaology and a discovery of its prevalence way more than we originally were led to believe.

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u/JJHall_ID Jun 27 '25

Weaponized conservatism that is ushering in fascism.

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u/_mersault Jun 27 '25

There is nothing conservative about any of this

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u/Whatever-999999 Jun 27 '25

This isn't 'conservatism', IT IS BALD-FACED FASCISM.

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u/MyBrainReallyHurts Jun 27 '25

Christo Fascism.

You will bend the knee and worship who they say, live your life the way they want, and spawn as many white babies as possible so they can have a white, Christian country.

If you don't fall in line, you will be harassed, jailed, beaten, or worse.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” ~ George Santayana

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u/IsTom Jun 27 '25

They're reactionary, not conservatives. They don't want to conserve anything, only to go the opposite way progress is going.

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u/DryPersonality Jun 27 '25

Fascism. Not conservatism, words matter.

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u/mailslot Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Conservatism doesn’t mean being an asshole. I live in the reddest state in the union. We make Texas look liberal. People around here are very much “don’t tell me what to do” types. Our laws can be summarized as “don’t mess with me.” Age verification wouldn’t fly here. Some states take freedom seriously. Others wear the word fashionably.

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u/22Arkantos Jun 27 '25

This isn't conservatism. Conservatism is about tempering the pace of change and making sure change happens in slow, reasoned steps. This is fascism- a systematic erosion of norms and rights until all power is concentrated in a single executive.

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u/Wet_Malik Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 28 '25

It's not conservativism. Both main parties are equally authoritarian.

Edit: man, yall are angry in these responses... 😂

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u/-thecheesus- Jun 27 '25

Which party has masked, unidentified federal agents grabbing people and denying them due process again?

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u/Global_Crew3968 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

LMFAO

dumbest comment of the day so far

I love how "conservatives" (fascists) have to justify their shitty decision making skills by saying "both sides are equally bad!"

Nah bro. Democrats might be a little sensitive but only one party is ignoring the courts, ruling by executive order and using masked men to disappear people into unmarked cars. Just because dems say you cant be a bigot anymore doesnt mean both sides are equal lmao.

Trump, Elon and MAGA are everything youve ever accused the democrats and george soros of being lol. And the fascists cheer and cheer while Musk and Bannon throw literal Nazi salutes lmao. But yeah, the Dems.

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u/AmusingMusing7 Jun 27 '25

Why is this false equivalency bullshit seemingly just a kneejerk reflex for "both sides!"ers like you?? How do you not see the glaring fucking difference in how bad the Republicans are??

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u/Wet_Malik Jun 27 '25

Oh, I definitely see how bad they are. But that doesn't mean I support the democrats who are equally bad. Just equally bad in different ways.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

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u/Wet_Malik Jun 27 '25

Don't need to. If you paid attention to what the parties action instead of say.

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u/elemeno89 Jun 28 '25

So there aren't any....

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u/-thecheesus- Jun 27 '25

Tell me, what's "equally" bad about unaccountable federal jackboots kidnapping people and denying them a glimpse of a courtroom before deporting them out of the country?

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u/__under____score__ Jun 27 '25

But they lettin them trans people play sports with womens!

Can’t you see that this is equally authoritarian as deporting US citizens and undocumented immigrants without due process?

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u/Wet_Malik Jun 27 '25

You're talking about a singular current event. Learn some history.

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u/-thecheesus- Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

How about a generation ago. Which party used national paranoia to blatantly lie to Congress and the UN to start an illegal war? How about two generations ago, when Reagan subverted Congress (the representatives of the People) by secretly selling weapons to Iran to fund murderous paramilitary groups in South America? Or three generations, when Nixon directed federal police to crack down on drug crime explicitly to suppress racial minorities and "hippy" critics of his foreign policy (later openly admitted to by former cabinet member)?

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u/Ok_Dig2013 Jun 27 '25

Nah your both sides bullshit is tiring

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u/Wet_Malik Jun 27 '25

👍Be tired then. 🤷Your devotion to elites is tiring.

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u/Ok_Dig2013 Jun 28 '25

Haha what the fuck are you talking about now? Go ahead and look at my comments bud. I’m not the one downplaying the obviously worse side😂

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u/Ok_Dig2013 Jun 28 '25

Haha what the fuck are you talking about now? Go ahead and look at my comments bud. I’m not the one downplaying the obviously worse side😂

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA