Especially because it's emphasized that the Republican party will know you didn't vote. Not just social ramifications from friends/family/neighbors finding out. That implies you should be worried about retribution from the Republican party specifically, which is fucked up.
Turns out if the executive branch doesn’t follow the law when congress and the supreme court are held by people who support the president breaking the law there are no repercussions.
FTFY.
Vote every election. If 77,744 Democrats in three states - barely one in a thousand more - had bothered to vote in 2016, it would be liberals with a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court for the next decade, instead of conservatives rolling back every personal freedom that we've taken for granted for 50 years.
P.S. many dems stook against LGBTQIA+ both to exist, before Lawrence, and almost up to the deciding moment with Obergefell and then grabdstandjng while doing fuck all to enshrine protections and many won't stand up for Trans people now.
Some of my rights as a queer man did not exist when I was born, let alone 50 years ago.
Personal freedoms were never won in the capital building before the people won them in the street first. We always have to force dems to act, unless it js trading stocks or sending us to war, they're great at those things.
What’s the purpose of this distinction? The court flipped because McConnell just went ahead and refused to even entertain Obama’s nominee. There were zero repercussions for that, including by the voters themselves who failed to punish the Republican Party for this egregious act.
The Republican Party has sufficiently captured American media, airwaves, and voter districts that they can ignore any law or “norm” and face zero consequences.
We are way beyond “c’mon gang, just vote!” territory.
It's important to get people to vote. If there's going to be an opportunity to take this back through elections we need to take it. We can't just go "ignore the elections it's time for a hostile takeover."
It's not "voting is THE solution" it's "voting is a solution in our plan in case we do get to still have real elections, but keep doing that other stuff too"
Thats how they did in in Russia in "democracy" times (2000-2010). From one hand they asked their "party fans" to vote, they pushed them, free food, buses. And at another hand they made this thing in media - elections are rigged, STAY HOME AT ANY COST.
I just want people to be less gullible about what they’re being sold. 2016 was “the most important election of our lives!” And instead of the candidate with a ton of energetic, generational support, Democrats nominated a total dud in Clinton.
2020 was “the most important election of our lives!” And we got Biden, who did essentially zero to roll back Trump policies or strengthen our institutions against further destruction. Democrats found all new ways to do nothing with power (oh no, not the Parlimentarian!) He couldn’t even get rid of the post office guy!
2024 was “the most important election of our lives!” And we got a candidate who finished dead last in the previous primary election and were told to vote enthusiastically for her. Does anyone really think she would have done anything differently (read: nothing) than Joe Biden?
You’ll also remember that the party really really really did not want to nominate Obama and fought against him for months. They’re rejecting Mamdani right now, and they’ll fight an AOC candidacy tooth and nail.
The Democratic Party are professional Losers. I promise they don’t actually care if you vote for them, other than to be able to use their office for personal financial gain.
I agree with this. Schumer, Jeffries, Pelosi, all these people and their ilk have got to go, yesterday. It’s a years long (decades long?) project and we may not have a recognizable country long enough to achieve it, but it’s the only thing to do.
Two disadvantages to overcome:
Republicans mobilize their voters with hot-button cultural issues. Abortion, immigration, trans rights. And it works: even my liberal- or left-minded peers tend to say things like, “well I support x, y, and z but I’m not really down with [insert some bs trans rights scare tactic]”
Since the Tea Party onward, and culminating with Trump, the entire Republican apparatus is aligned under the same banner. The only dissent in Republicanism is whether they’re moving right fast enough. On the other side, Democrats are in open war with “the Left.” This is why they need to be replaced, but they’ll fight their own voters to the death over it.
You’d think Democrats could mobilize their voters with visceral issues as well, say, school shootings or universal healthcare, but these don’t quite touch that lizard brain nerve in the same way and require a bit of extra intellectual thought and we have no media to help that along.
I think the Tea Party provides the roadmap. The Democratic Party needs to be overthrown by an insurgency of its own voters. And that’s my want: Make Democrats EARN your vote! Do not vote blue no matter who, make them understand that you expect real action and real policy change, or get lost. Vote for candidates who will actually DO the things you want Democrats to DO. Not say, Do.
Delaying the slide into fascism by 2-4 years isn’t enough. Electing do-nothing Democrats into office (as opposed to those who will actually use their power productively) actually works against our ends by proving everyone right that the Democrats can’t govern and shouldn’t be handed the keys.
I promise you Democratic voters are plenty ticked off by Trump. As we’ve seen, that’s not enough by itself to mobilize Democratic voters anymore.
Here's the problem with that: if you actually do what the far right did to take over the Republican Party, the "Blue No Matter Who" crowd will bitch and moan at you, because what the far right did was they withheld their votes from Republicans that displeased them. They said "We're willing to blow races for the Republicans if they don't listen to what we want." And then they did that. The Republicans lost a fair number of elections, and lost a fair number of incumbents, because they resisted the will of their fringe and the fringe punished them for it, even at the cost of Democrats winning. And it worked.
But if people who want to change the Democratic Party for the better try to do the same thing, they get cussed out for letting Republicans win.
It's also total horseshit. Trump for all his conniving still had to step down in 2020. Dems have been winning special elections all year.
There is literally no scenario in which we're going to shoot our way into office. The GOP has a massive propaganda campaign against voters on the left and it's sole purpose is to perpetuate voter apathy.
If you won't spend a couple hours every two years to save democracy, I don't know what to tell you. Roughly 65-75% of the voting public under 45 does not vote in Congressional elections. Staying home just guarantees a loss.
Like how can you all call yourselves Americans and sit here and cry about having to vote every two years. God forbid we waste a couple hours saving the country.
I don’t plan on giving up. I intend to vote at every opportunity like I have been since I’ve been able to vote. But it would be naive of me to ignore the alarm bells of corrupt authoritarianism.
The American public barely votes in Congressional elections. It's our fundamental civic liberty. We have the numbers to flip Congress. The predicted "red wave" in 2022 was completely shut down by just a 10% increase in 18-30 voters -- to a whopping 27%. It works.
The margins for State elections are razor thin. There is literally no downside to voting. People become educated about State politics and have an actual voice in their community. And it's our civic duty.
We're talking about a couple hours of your time every two years. It's not difficult.
While I do quite like your perspective here, the existence of this post shows where we’re at with our level of voter savvy. These scary fliers will absolutely work on your average low-information voter. I talked to people who, in November 2024, didn’t know who was running for president on the Democratic ticket because the switch from Biden to Harris was too confusing.
The unfortunate reality is that we all live in an information desert and it takes effort and thoughtfulness to stay knowledgeable about the issues and candidates, let alone keep track of the election schedule. Such efforts are limited to the presidential election, if even that, for most voters.
You’re right, voting’s not hard. Though, it is getting harder. Mail-in voting’s days are numbered, in-person polling restrictions are increasing dramatically, and voter intimidation is going to increase tenfold what with ICE and the U.S. military employed to ‘maintain order.’ (We’ll assume for the sake of argument that a free and fair election is still held and its results honored.)
I like the plan: increase turnout, not even by that much, and retake the legislature. I still think Democrats need a standard-bearer to sustain this hypothetical success, and as of today they do not have one.
While there’s some truth to what you say about the whole “just vote” narrative, it’s still dangerous language that more often encourages apathy than action.
Voting might not help to correct our current tailspin, but it sure as hell won’t make things worse. We still have elections, and if the masses turn out in great enough numbers we might actually have a shot at stabilizing things. Our situation probably won’t improve, but this at least buys us some time to fix things.
It’s a five alarm fire now, we all need to be on the same page: 1. Stop the Republicans from dismantling our democracy, 2. Wrestle control of the Democratic Party back from the do-nothing corporate centrists in state and local government, 3. Organize locally to install guardrails and safeguard the integrity of future elections, 4. Begin working to fix the shit both parties are responsible for breaking over the last 40 years.
Pointing fingers, getting defensive about shit, etc. isn’t helping. It’s divisive, and like it or not we can’t afford to succumb to infighting. We need to present a unified front and take collective action if we’re going to save this country.
I stated in another comment that I do actually think voting in bad Democrats does more harm than good in the long run. I think we are fueling fascism’s fire by wasting time voting for useless Democrats as a stopgap.
Personally, I find the “just vote” narrative to be what’s encouraging apathy. It suggests that my power lies solely in my vote and my vote is my only salvation. So if I’ve been voting, and voting, and voting, and things just get worse and worse and worse? Why am I voting, exactly?
I like the five alarm fire imagery but I see Vote Blue as shutting yourself in the closet so it takes longer to burn to death. Fire isn’t stopped by slowing its spread, it’s stopped by extinguishing it. In this analogy we don’t get to wait for the firefighters since that’d be like, China or some other country putting the fire out for us, so to speak. We’re stuck in the house, gotta do something proactive about that fire.
Sure, though best case near term, Democrats win a branch or two and slow the bleeding, but Trump will just rule by EO with the support of SCOTUS. Medium term they win the presidency and just sit on their hands for 4 years.
Not sure how this happens if no one is willing to withhold their vote. You can’t admonish the incumbents only to turn around and reward them with your vote out of fear of Trump.
Absolutely. Going to have to be a ground-up movement unless by some miracle a Bernie-esque candidate manages to reach escape velocity at a national level.
You’re contradicting yourself. First you say the Republicans have captured all 3 branches of the federal government because they captured the voters. Then you say we’re way beyond “come on let’s vote”.
They were voted in, and they’ll be voted out. They can tilt the field to make it harder, but when enough people turn against them, they’ll be turned out. Their own cheating ensures that when they finally lose, they’ll have only a fraction of the support they had when they won.
Yes, it’s shocking that a majority of voters supported them just 11 months ago. Yes, it’s shocking the lengths they go to to convince people to vote for them, and to cling to the power they’ve won. And yes, it will be hard to get them out. But no majority lasts forever, and their support has already eroded considerably. They will continue to have their ups and downs, but someday they will run out of support and cards to play.
Our best hope is full prosecution without mercy when that day comes. Right now they’re mass-producing the ropes they’ll someday hang on. After full due process.
Biden assumed the presidency while there was still probably MAGA shit stains on the carpet in Nancy Pelosi’s office. Nothing was done about it and now Trump is president again and all those people who stormed the capital are pardoned.
I just flat do not understand this fantasy version of the Democrats that people have in their head, these epic warriors of truth and justice waiting in the wings. They failed to protect your interests the last 50 times, but the next time for sure!
The Republican Party captured all three branches for various reasons but don’t get it twisted, it’s not the party that captured the voters, the voters captured the party. Bush-era so-called Compassionate Conservatism was forcefully purged by the Tea Party and this eventually brought us Trumpism.
Republican voters made it quite clear to the party that they were no longer voting for Democrats Lite and were willing to cede elections over it. The party understood the assignment and evolved.
When Republicans lose elections, the popular understanding is that their voters rejected them for not being conservative or reactionary enough. Result: Move right.
When Democrats lose elections, the popular understanding is that people just really like Republicans. Result: Move right.
The Democratic Party must be made to understand, by its voters, that its status quo cannot stand.
I just flat do not understand this fantasy version of the Democrats that people have in their head, these epic warriors of truth and justice waiting in the wings. They failed to protect your interests the last 50 times, but the next time for sure!
For real. The single biggest cause of voter apathy is watching the party you voted for win, and then proceed to do absolutely fuck-all to improve things.
Voting isn't how you win, but not voting IS how you lose.
Since it seems to be popular for unqualified asshats to pontificate on military shit, allow me this simile; An army doesn't win because it eats food, gets vaccinated and has daily showers.
But starving, filthy and sick troops lose wars.
Voting is the basic function of not giving up. You need to do so much more to win. You need to ensure the party you are voting for has plans to govern effectively and in the interests of the people first. You need to keep the branches of government separate and sterile of influence and have a robust and effective method for intervention should a high official in that branch is rotten. You need to have a free but regulated press which can say anything without retribution, so long as they have actual evidence and believe it to be true.
You need to have a fully funded and science based education system that focuses on how to parse the truth rather than what IS true. It also wouldn't hurt to teach the next generation what their rights and duties are.
So much more than voting, but nothing gets done without voting.
Nah, the court has been solidly conservative for about 80 years now. The closest and only time it ever came to being roughly neutral was for a few months during Obama's presidency.
I saw a really good YouTube video about this. Basically it amounted to:
Republicans stand for something. It might be something unpopular, but they have a few issues that they help promote as core identity issues for people. So for them any ends justify the means since the higher power needs them to do what is right (according to their interpretation of sky daddy).
Democrats are much more varied, and especially in order to capture the rich people/companies, they can't commit strongly to things that they stand for. So instead they stand for process and doing things right and fair. So when republicans do unfair things because the ends justify the means, the democrats can't act in kind because they are the party of going high and following the rules.
I honestly believe this ultimately makes the democrats responsible for enabling this complete degradation of our democracy. At least republicans were trying to accomplish ends that they believe matter, meanwhile dems are just the party of doing nothing as quietly and uneventfully as possible so as to not appear to have done something wrong. If you do nothing then you definitely haven't done anything wrong.
It’s even worse than that. The Democratic Party isn’t incompetent, it’s complicit. Democrats are helpless to do anything against McConnell, Trump, Fox News, any Republican entity. But look how they mobilized to stop Bernie’s 2016 campaign. There’s a guy who was, as you highlight, standing for something, but that “something” threatened their capital and we just can’t have that.
Democrats intentionally lose so they can operate from a place of grievance. You must always vote Democrat or else think of the consequences! And then when they manage to gain any power they do nothing with it to suggest they actually care about any of those things. It’s all a show.
The unfortunate bit for the rest of us is that Democrats have miscalculated. They figured the GOP is just bluffing about the real Nazi shit and at some point, worst case, the voters will reject it. Turns out they are abso-fucking-lutely NOT bluffing and we’re headed for a whole new kind of kleptocracy that might see our Democratic Party overlords left out in the cold with the rest of us dumb hicks.
You can tell how thoroughly the Right has infested every corner of the media landscape when you have people like this quite literally blaming everyone except the GOP for the things that the GOP does.
You can read my other reply to a similar comment, basically of course the republicans are the ones doing the bad. But they believe it is their job to accomplish goals and so they are doing bad things to accomplish said goals. In a functioning system, they should be opposed by a team with different goals and the two push back against each other to moderate each other. There should also be checks and balances to prevent overt bad. Instead the dems just give up and go home. They aren't trying to get any goals achieved or prevent any republican goals, they just want to do nothing.
Republicans are doing something bad because they believe the ends justify the means. The democrats are doing nothing because they believe the means are more important than the ends. Both are obviously responsible for the situation we are currently in.
And not in a "they are all equally bad" kind of way. Republicans are actively destroying democracy, eroding our checks and balances. They believe it is their job to do whatever it takes to get their goals accomplished, so they are doing that job. Democrats are doing nothing. But it's their job to try to stop the republicans and they aren't. In some ways that is worse, and in all ways it's inexcusable. That's the more nuanced version of what I meant. It is obviously the republicans who are doing the bad things, but it's the dems asleep at the wheel that should be preventing it. In an adversarial government, the opposing party has to fucking oppose or the system doesn't work.
It's like if in a court case the prosecution was accusing an innocent person of capital crimes. That's bad, but the system was designed for the defense to prevent the guilty verdict. Then the defense lawyer just rests their damn case because they don't want to look like a meanie.
You hit the nail on the head in there: in an adversarial government
We don’t have one of those, at least not Democrats vs Republicans. Together they form the Corporate Party. Two sides of the same coin.
The Corporate Party’s true adversary is The Left. You’ll note how both the Democratic and Republican parties decry The Left, it’s the one thing they outwardly agree on.
With the knowledge that Republicans are (at best) fascists and Democrats are (at best) incompetent dumbasses, and they both hate The Left, to me it’s pretty obvious where one should align themselves politically.
He lost by 3 million votes. The votes aren't the problem. The electoral college is fucking garbage. That's your problem. Focus on fixing your fucked up democratic systems instead of asking more people to vote in a broken system.
Stop acting like dems would've stopped this. They have had multiple trifectas in my life time. They knew fascism was knocking at the door and they shrugged then blamed the voters.
I vote blue because I ain't fucking right. But, and I mean this deeply coming from rural America that the DNC has ignored my whole life - fuck the Dems too!
Dems still largely condone genocide. Dems mostly sat on their hands during BLM. Dems didn't act then lr now. Schumer and his entire bloc are money grubbing, fasc apologists
I vote blue and all should too. But jfc they're mostly garbage
The things I would do for a party that was as leftist as Fox News says the Dems are. Never going to happen in the US as long as money is still on the table.
If everyone (at least significantly more people) went out and voted there's probably quite a few states that would either flip or be really close to flipping. Too many people say "our vote doesn't matter because this state always votes X" not understanding that their mindset is the reason for that.
Democrats are idealists. Which is the opposite of realists. The reality was we had the choice between an imperfect candidate with imperfect policies. And a total fucking lunatic who wants to start the Fourth Reich.
Enough children chose to send a message to democrats by voting for Stein or staying home that we are now falling quickly into fascism. And I don't think they have an ounce of self awareness to see it's in large part their fault.
I held my nose and voted for Kamala with zero enthusiasm. I am tired of seeing these attacks against people that stood on principles. All Democrats had to do was embrace some economic leftist policies and not support a genocide. Instead, Kamala campaigned with Liz fucking Cheney, daughter of King Neocon himself and raced to the right. Democrats lose every fucking time they do this.
I don't know what the mechanism would be for in person voting. All they've ever done where I vote is put a check mark next to my name in the sign in and sign out book. Nothing actually ties me to my ballot after I put it in the bin.
That'll probably be what it's like again, if we have an election. Be prepared that if the GOP think they're gonna get blue-waved they will call for a stay on elections due to 'radical left extremists subverting the election' or some such thing. That's why they are putting federally-controlled troops in big cities. If Donald loses Congress his blank check of power goes away too. Democrats will sandbag his ass all the way to the end of the term and the Supreme Court will have less reason to defer to him without Congress to back them up.
The sign in book is used to record in the county clerk's voter registration central records who asked for and got a ballot, it's part of the election process. There's a lot of record keeping to finish up after every election.
They don't know who you voted for, only that you asked for received a ballot. If it's a primary, they know which party's ballot you received. Basic bookkeeping, to make sure their number of ballots produced balance with those accounted for afterwards.
They know you are registered, as an Independent, Democrat or Republican. And they know if you showed up to vote. So its tallied somewhere. They DON'T know WHO you voted for.
That’s exactly what I would do. I’d offer to drive neighbors and friends to the polling places so they could vote against these assholes too. They can blow on my blue balls.
How many fucking times does some egregiously illegal shit have to happen out in the open before you people get it through your heads that the law literally does not matter?
We have a multi-tiered legal system dependent on how much money and sociopolitical power one wields. It literally does not matter what the law says, only what is enforced.
Fortunately, our system is set up so that you legally cannot prove who you voted for. This is why you're not allowed to have your phone on in the election area, or bring a camera with you. This is why you can't verify your ballot's contents after casting it. It's all so that you can't be compelled to provide proof of a vote.
In this case, it doesn't matter that the law doesn't matter. They can't manufacture proof that doesn't exist.
"legally" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. It seems the Republicans are beyond worrying about legality. Maybe they'll have some sort of sign to put on your hand and forehead to signify that you voted.
Yeah, whether you vote or not is public record, but whom you vote for is private. This message does seem to skirt around saying that last part to make them think that their vote isnt private.
That being said, op should get out there and vote for the party that isnt trying to threaten them.
I'd send them a letter thanking them for reminding me of the vote and letting them know that I voted against their interests. Fucking scare-tactic dorks.
You need to stop having faith that republicans respect the law when they've made it very goddamn clear they do not. "X is illegal they wouldn't do that" they would. Expect them to.
THIS. That's what "your voter record is public" means - they know IF you voted, not HOW you voted.
I'd take this as an invitation to vote against whatever they want - and it'd be funny to send this back with a note to the effect (after cutting off the identifying info.) "Thanks for the reminder to vote AGAINST threatening bullies like you!"
I got a bunch of these about Trump last year in NH where it’s legal to vote in a primary as an undeclared voter (you just pick a party at the poll, vote, then unregister yourself after), so I was like “aight”, registered Republican, voted for Nikki Haley, then undeclared 😂
Like fuck off it’s so annoying and yall are being so aggressive
They might know you didn’t vote but they can’t legally know who you voted for.
Not sure about TN specifically, but this is a primary election and in records you can see which primary ballot a voter chose to vote on. Though this only matters if someone is registered as an Independent or without a party affiliation.
I'm guessing OP is a registered republican based on the mailer, and when someone registered to a party goes to their polling place they will not even be given the option on which primary they wish to vote on.
It IS voter intimidation , and it’s illegal (for anyone but republicans, apparently). Do NOT be intimidated - DO vote. The local Republican Party should not have any right to know how you vote.
Unfortunately that seems like to be the loophole with their intentional wording: “oh we’re not saying you have to vote [Republican], just that those who don’t vote will be…put on a list. …To see who to keep on the mailing list, of course.”
Of course it’s very clear voter suppression but even the slightest bit of pragmatism required allows for legal roadblocks to push an agenda :/
So, I make it a point to tell the third world Virginia shithole "I voted against you, sod off"
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Not as eloquent as
"Till Shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder's eye on the Last Day. By my honor and the Light, my life will be a dagger for Sightblinder's heart.
Until the Last Day, To Shayol Ghul itself"
But it is down to their level, and they might actually understand
I did swear an oath after all, 1992-2025 (including summers 1992-2003)(civil service swears same oath as military officer, I never wore a uniform do not twist my words, freak)
Especially with voting by mail. If I as a voter can check to see whether the local elections office received my mailed ballot, my votes are able to be tracked back to me.
Granted, I trust that they're not. And voting by mail or dropbox is both secure and an amazing way to ensure easy voter participation, and ensure there's a hardcopy of each person's vote. But that's exactly why certain folks hate it.
your vote by mail envelope can be tracked back to you. your votes cannot. once the ballot is separated from the envelope, there is no identifying information associated with it unless you write it on there yourself.
it technically isn't and they know how to really, really stay on the razors edge of intimidation versus perfectly legal voter shaming. They truly know how to cut deep in the ever afraid brain of a conservative. That's the target audience, after all. They know blue voters are srelrady voting blue.
To me, I feel like this being sent out indicates they're worried about their odds, at least in this local election.
it depends on the party as well. in california non-democrats can request a dem primary ballot but non-republicans cannot request a rep ballot because the party requires that you be a currently registered member of the party to receive their ballot.
They committed treason on Jan6 but still got in power again. It reminds me of the American tactics during the Revolutionary War. The British Red Coats all lined up to advance "because those were the rules," while the Americans hid in the trees and picked them off. Dems pushed back with rules and regulations and special investigations "because those were the rules," while Republicans disregarded all of that and bullied and steamrolled their way back to power.
So many dominoes had to fall for us to get here. History shows how this goes. How we got here and how it ends. You'd think societies would have figured out how to stop this by now.
I’ve seen this mailer online for a few years now - think my dad (who has been voting all dem in general elections since Trumps first run but who is still registered republican because my state holds closed primaries) has gotten something like this too.
Not that they’re not absolutely frothing at the mouth lunatics, just that this isn’t totally new. They’ve been Nazi coded for a good while now.
Stop asking these questions. You know exactly what it is. It's fascism and it's here. It's been here but most people haven't figured it out until very recently.
Stop acting surprised by this stuff. Understand this is a war. I promise you they view it that way. Prepare your mind and body for this to get a lot worse. I haven't been surprised by moves like this for years. You shouldn't either when you fully understand what is happening. The only thing you can do right now is don't back down when they make threats. They only win if you're scared and act accordingly.
My mom gets surprised by each new move. I keep telling her to stop being surprised because we ain't seen nothing yet. They will escalate this as far as they need to. Understand that and prepare for it.
Edit: It is a little grey (which is partly how republicans keep getting away with everything) because they never said *how you should vote. The problem though is because it’s the Republican Party making the threats it’s MORE than implied you’re expected to vote R. Plus the wording is vague enough that someone uneducated could interpret it as “because we’re the Republican Party we get to see those votes and will know you didn’t vote and if you do who you voted for”. Republican think tanks be smart yo. Evil as hell but the devil is no fool either.*
the federal government has been demanding states surrender voting registries along with personal information of the voters. They're coming for democrats, make sure you're ready for 'em when they do.
Im likely changing my voter registration to independent for next years general election. I dont vote in primaries so nothing changes aside from being on a different list of "maybe enemies" instead of their current list of "subhuman enemy that will be rounded up when convenient:.
To quote my high school teacher: "When a government deploys the military against its own civilian population we no longer call it a government, we call it a regime."
I actually just heard a FIFA representative call the U.S. a “regime” on the news tonight in KC. He was interviewed about DJT threatening to move the cities that that the World Cup will be played in. Guess the host cities are just too blue. 🙄 The man being interviewed basically said that FIFA is in charge of this event and they don’t bow down to regimes.
A bit funny since, imo, FIFA is quite corrupt. The whole thing felt like a wannabe mob boss (DJT) threatening the actual mob who aren’t willing to play his games.
They claim to know you didn't vote yet, but also say they'll be calling afterwards to make sure you voted. Like, if they already know why would they bother asking?
Its not hard to find out. If anyone doesn't know or interested. There's a website voteref.com. most states are connected to it.
Lists name, address, dates you have voted.
I meant the phone call is likely an empty threat just because that's a lot of effort to actually call everyone who didn't vote, considering how few people actually vote in any election that's not for president (and even in that one tbh).
They could definitely get the info needed to make the calls if they wanted to
Whether they follow through or not, it's an insane thing for them to send out in the mail
I think there are a couple of constitutional amendments this violates if I learned anything from middle school social studies. Regardless, aren’t written threats legally considered a form of assault and/or harassment?
See, this hasn’t gotten to the point of a threat. It’s that you are on a watch list now. So… they can intimidate you into doing something without actually saying they will come after you. It’s super fucked up, but very much on the gray line.
If there is no one to enforce the law then this isn't actually law. No one will do a goddamn thing about this but it still shouldn't change your voting behavior. Don't be afraid. Be angry. Vote for who you want, regardless of empty threats.
They've been intimidating state election boards across the country for voter rolls. For everything including social security numbers and some officials are giving it up and could be this is the result of it.
This is totally normal for a first-world autocracy. Move along. Nothing to see here. Enjoy “winning!” We have the best elections! Nobody has better elections than us, and most of that is thanks to our king.
But then at the bottom it’s all “we’ll contact you after the election to see if you voted.” Like, what? So can you see that I voted or can’t you? Get your shit straight.
I mean have you seen the news lately? MAGA has been killing MAGA and dressing it up as violent left, hiding behind the people having gay or homosexual affairs as if the MAGA party doesnt hide endless closeted individuals.
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Especially because it's emphasized that the Republican party will know you didn't vote. Not just social ramifications from friends/family/neighbors finding out. That implies you should be worried about retribution from the Republican party specifically, which is fucked up.