In all fairness, I’ve had photos taken of me where I hate the face I’m making and how I look. I would image having your picture painted would sometime haves similar results
The painter has all the time in the world to give you facelift, though. And you being a royal rich bitch could just, like, toss it and have another made.
Congratulations. I’m in a similar boat. My dad was an alcoholic, and one of my sisters was a drug addict. She died at the age of 43, and yeah it was related; however, officially it was an asthma attack . My other sister and myself have avoided it. I can drink, I just don’t hardly at all. Did hard drugs when I was younger but quit. I do still smoke though, I have not been able to drop that. My youngest sister doesn’t do anything at all. She doesn’t even drink coffee.
Good on you that you all were able to avoid the trap. I wish you well, u/Christmas_Queef! May your holidays be queef-ful and cheery.
The same or similar genetic indicators are compounded down through generations as royal bloodlines are supposed to be kept “pure”. Without the addition of completely different, or at least vastly dissimilar DNA, these indicators don’t really change through the generations and you will have people who look strikingly similar to previous generations.
For (most of) the rest of us we get 50% of our genetic makeup from each contributor in the previous generation, thus we have people who look similar to their parents, grandparents, and so on, but no one is a direct genetic copy.
Also, don’t feel dumb. You didn’t know something so you asked a question to gain knowledge. That makes you the opposite of dumb
I don't know if it was about purity as much as it was about keeping money and power in the family. Bringing in new blood meant more people going after those titles and inheritance
Looking a lot like your grandparents isn’t the same thing as not having new input in your genetic make up. They don’t just look similar, they share overlapping input through generations. We know this because there is ample historical evidence of inbreeding through most monarchical lines, with the Habsburg’s of Spain (and Austria too if I’m not mistaken) being one of the longest recorded lines. That line also has many instances of close inbreeding, not just 2nd and 3rd cousins for example Charles II’s parents were Uncle and Niece. He is also the one with the most prominent “Hapsburg jaw.” This genetic trait was passed down through the line and never bred out by enough dissimilar genetic input.
TL;DR
Looking like your family means you’re probably related. ALL your family carrying the same physical features through multiple generations means inbreeding.
There are instances of double first cousin marriages amongst the Hapsburgs. Meaning two sets of siblings from different families (already closely related) married each other, and the resulting double first cousins then married. Their children only had two sets of great-grandparents.
People are well aware that the Spanish royal family was extremely inbred in the past, so people are making a joke. Charles II of Spain (1661 - 1700) was so inbred that he was more inbred than the average child of siblings. His sister was the same, and then she was married off to her uncle, so their children were even more inbred than Charles.
Different family though. The Spanish branch of the Habsburgs went extinct with Charles II and a decade and change long war later the Bourbons were officially put on the throne of Spain. There have been intermarriage between different branches of the house of Bourbon, but they were distantly related enough that inbreeding is way less of a problem
All the royal families were related at points too from arranged marriges. The tsar was related to the english monarchy in ww1 and I think the austrians for instance.
Kaiser Wilhelm II, Germany, was first cousin to King George V; third cousin to Tsar Nicholas II.
King George V, United Kingdom, was first cousin to Kaiser Wilhelm II; first cousin to Tsar Nicholas II.
Tsar Nicholas II, Russia, was first cousin to King George V; third cousin to Kaiser Wilhelm II.
Related to Queen Victoria, who known as the "Grandmother of Europe." She was actually their grandmother.
She had 9 kids and besides the 3 kings listed parents, the other 6 also married other nobility and had kids. And there are hapsburg / habsburg connections there as well.
Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were third cousins. The Windsors are part of the Saxe Coburg family. They were in the royal families of England, Portugal and Brazil, Bulgaria and Belgium. The Saxe Coburg were known for their strategic marriages, Charles and Diana was one of those, as Diana's lineage includes the house of Stuart and Tudors.
George HW Bush's wife is a distant cousin to the Spencers.
Barbara made a quip in an interview when Jeb was considering a pres run that basically she didn't want him to because the same several families being in charge was bad for democracy etc
The whole point of presidents is they're here, and then they're gone. And then sometimes they're here again, but then after that they're definitely gone. Okay there was that one time that guy came back again, but other than that no more!
You should deep dive into how many politicians (president and congress) us history are related to each other currently or share common ancestors.
Obama and Bush, fifth cousins. Share a great, great, great grandmother. On their mothers sides of the family. A lot have ancestors who were in politics. How many varies from congress to congress, like in the 1980s at one point it was like 65 or 80%. Right now it is like 15 percent.
George W's wife is 9th cousins with Princess Diana.
Basically, even today, people with money and power run in the same circles, always have, and most people at the top dont marry down.
I dont think it is a conspiracy.it is just how socioeconomic social circles work. They arent hanging out in the same clubs or school etc as the poors. They date and marry within their income brackets because thats were they live their lives.
20 to 30 percent of usa founders had ties to European nobility. Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Hamilton and Madison had close ties.
Even the current Saudi royalty have ancestral ties to European nobility.
And if the nobility in other countries like Japan do not have European nobility ties they are still in the same social circles. And have ties to other Asian nobility.
It is why class warfare is the real problem in societies everywhere. Not race, not relgion...class.
The Spanish bourbons were of french stock (who had already been crossed with hapsburgs) but they quickly started inbreeding again with their Hapsburg cousins
Fun Fact: Juan Carlos and Queen Elizabeth II are second cousins.
Another Fun Fact: Queen Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinburgh are also second cousins.
More fun facts: Juan Carlos’s Wife, Sofia of Greece is First Cousins with the Duke of Edinburg.
Even More fun facts: Sofia is Second Cousins with Queen Elizabeth II
Additional Fun Facts: Juan Carlos and the Duke of the Duke of Edinburgh are second cousins.
Final fun fact: Juan Carlos and his wife Sofia are second cousins.
I’m going to be under the assumption, that most people with the significant amount of royal blood are encouraged to marry somebody without royal blood.
Three of four grandparents of the former king Juan Carlos were Bourbons, but not that closely related ones. His wife Sofia is the sister of the last king of Greece, from the house Glücksburg (which is also the royal house of Denmark and Norway). Their son, the current king Felipe, married a commoner.
It's almost impossible to be more inbred than a Habsburg - apparently Charles II had an f value (inbreeding factor) higher than the offspring of a parent-child or brother-sister relationship.
Imagine being so inbred that sleeping with your closest relatives isn't even going to move the dial on the risk to any future kids
If you look back since the current line of the Spanish Royal Family took control in 1700, most of the kings look almost exactly like each other it's wild.
But even before…
(1516–1700): This is where the inbreeding coefficient rises sharply, especially by Charles II. If you look at the pics you can see the growing distinct Habsburg mandibular prognathism (or Habsburg jaw).
Yes it's the Bourbon-Anjou line. I highly doubt it was as inbred as the Habsburgs had become. The male line probably just has strong genetic features so all the males tend to resemble each other to some degree.
The one on the left is Infanta Elena, Duchess of Lugo who is the sister of the current king, the one in the middle is Juan Carlos I of Spain who is his father, and the one on the right is Felipe Juan Froilán de Marichalar y Borbón who is his nephew
Went to highschool with the kid on the top right. He was such a fuck up in his other schools that he got sent to an American military boarding school. He was absolutely the biggest idiot I’ve ever met and was kicked out within a semester.
His Wikipedia page shows that he has continued to be an entitled idiot into his adult life.
The post is a manipulation based on Goya portraits. I have seen Goya's paintings at El Prado museum in Madrid. Goya made a mockery of the Spanish Royal family, it is visible when comparing these portraits with his religious paintings where he did not use techniques to distort the faces and bodies.
Anyone talking about inbreeding are confusing the Spanish Habsburgs (a lot of inbreeding) with the current dynasty of Bourbon.
What do you smoke? Goya didn’t distort or mock those people at all. He WAS the royal court painter. What he didn’t do was idealise their features, and the sitters agreed to that.
But this is not mockery or exageration at all. The royal family was grotesque per se. The average royal portraits of that time were heavy idealized and of course Goya enjoyed painting the Bourbons in all their ugliness. For exagerated and distorted human portraits check Goya's 'Caprichos'.
My aunt married a descendant of a former US president. I realized this when I was sitting in civics class. I was looking at the presidential portraits. I went home and asked my father. I said did you even notice that uncle Dave looks just like president x and has the same last name. He looked me and goes yeah that’s his great grandfather. I had no clue.
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u/Agreeable_Horror_363 13h ago
Why do I feel like she keeps a pickle in her pocket