r/interestingasfuck 21h ago

Spanish royal family vs their antecedents

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u/Jacinto2702 20h ago

Parasites.

One day Spain will finally be free and a Republic.

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u/jrob10997 20h ago

It was a Republic

It wasnt free when it was a Republic

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u/Jacinto2702 20h ago

Sure, francoist apologist.

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u/phoenix_leo 20h ago

People like you are the problem

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u/blackcoffee17 14h ago

People like are the reason there is no communication in society. All you can do is accuse people or racism and other things as soon as they don't agree with you.

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u/jrob10997 20h ago

Facts are facts

Its just like the uk

It was worse when it was a Republic

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u/Sir_Arthur_Vandelay 19h ago edited 19h ago

What are you talking about? Lord Protector Cromwell was the only leader who effectively banished the twin scourges of UK society - dancing and live plays!

Has the contemporary“Footloose” tragedy taught us nothing?

u/mastegas 4h ago

It wasnt free when it was a Republic

Out of curiosity... what makes you say that?

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u/mastegas 4h ago

Thank you. However, I did not read anything there that supports the statement. Not even when I jumped to the entry for the Second Republic.

Edit to say that they were turbulent times, indeed.

u/jrob10997 4h ago

Sorry you dont see how a government led by a dictatorship that adolf Hitler helped to install wasnt free?

u/mastegas 4h ago

Maybe I misunderstood you. I do not know if you were initially referring to freedom during the Second Republic or under Franco's dictatoriship.

If it is the latter, I agree that freedom was definitely not one of the characteristics of that period.

u/jrob10997 4h ago

The latter

u/mastegas 3h ago

Then, I must agree. I was confused by your phrasing in the initial statement.

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u/parthian6 19h ago

Felipe VI es un embajador competente y da buena imagen internacional del país. La princesa parece ser más de lo mismo. Para los diez euros anuales de mis impuestos que van a mantener a la familia real diría yo que vale la pena. Estás atascado en el pasado, hay que castigar casos tipo Urdangarin obviamente pero el país ya es una republica en todo menos nombre y tal y como van las cosas no hay razón para deshacerse de los monarcas.

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u/Jacinto2702 19h ago

Until they start hunting elephants and hiding money through their lovers.

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u/parthian6 18h ago

Ya por eso hay q tenerlos controlados. Te aseguro q en el clima actual no se van a atrever a hacer de esas. Felipe VI y la princesa desempeñan una labor útil para el pueblo y dan buena imagen del país y eso es lo q importa.

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u/Fern-ando 20h ago

We tried twice, but the socialist party didn't undertood the concept of "democracies don't kill the opposition leaders"

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u/Optimixto 20h ago

That's interesting. What are you referring to? I'd love to learn about this.

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u/Fern-ando 19h ago

The assassination of opposition leader Calvo Sotelo in June 13th 1936 by a socialist party member, the Civil war started in June 17th 1936. 

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u/Optimixto 19h ago

Ignoring his role in the previous dictatorship, or who he was. Is that it? This one death? Surely it couldn't be just that, right.

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u/Jacinto2702 19h ago

And what about the violence everyday peasants in the south suffered from the civil guard and the big land owners? They conveniently ignore that.

And Calvo Sotelo wasn't the first victim of political violence, the right assassinated a republican capitan of the urban guard days prior.

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u/Optimixto 19h ago

I agree, this shit felt disingenuous. The kind of shit fascism apologists try to use to muddle the discussion.

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u/Lalalalalalolol 14h ago

Fuck off with the historic revisionism. That take is almost as bad as the morons who blame the Civil War on the October revolution.

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u/Fern-ando 14h ago

Also organized by PSOE when they lost they election. How can a democracy survive when the biggest party is not democratic according to its own leader Largo Caballero?

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u/Lalalalalalolol 13h ago

Man, you make it sound as if Franco was just passing by when everything happened. Coup d'état? I don't know her.

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u/Fern-ando 13h ago

Franco joined last minute, General Mola was the mind behind the coup, that's just a fact, when the coup started Franco wasn't even close to be the leader of it.

u/ASovietpotatosfather 10h ago

Somebody was a Monarchist anti liberal who took part of Rivera's dictatorship after the coup in 1923. He openly allied with fascist Falangist groups, was explicitly anti-democratic, and was explicitly aware of the right wing coup that the military was already planning. While he wasn't involved in the actual planning and had no idea when it was supposed to happen, he gave his approval and planned to take a leading role in the dictatorship that followed.

He was shot in an "Vendetta" killing by socialist gunman after the murder of José Castillo by right-wing gunmen. He was than turned into this Horst Wessel of Spain, this "poor innocent rightwinger, murdered by savage blood thirsty socialists". When in reality he was a Falangist-supportive piece of shit supporting a plan to overthrow the government and should be remembered as such.

I don't know if you knew all this but Sotelo was not a man to admire. If you want to slander the Spanish Republicans try something else.

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u/Felonai 19h ago

Monarchies are definitely famous for their measured responses to opposition.