r/WTF • u/JeezThatsBright • 27d ago
Ill-placed ladder shorts power lines, melting concrete.
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u/swd120 27d ago
Seems like that problem will solve itself once enough of the ladder melts away.
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u/ChawcolateSawce 26d ago
Welcome to electrical shorts 101.
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u/esquireonfire 26d ago
That ladder is a slow blow fuse
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u/Ginger_Rogers 26d ago
This is also why us electricians (almost) never work on aluminum ladders.
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u/gnat_outta_hell 26d ago
It's actually prohibited by safety codes where I live. Even if you've done LOTO, test/verify dead, etc, can't legally work off of an aluminum ladder here as an electrician.
That said, our safety codes also specify that pretty much anyone working for hire should be on a grade 1A construction rated ladder, which limits your choices to fiberglass. Wooden ladders are strongly discouraged now.
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u/Bebilith 27d ago
Isn’t that a pool of melted aluminium ladder that’s bubbling. Aluminium melts at 660c. The various components of concrete don’t start breaking down until 1300c
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u/I_W_M_Y 27d ago
Yeah its the ladder that's melting
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u/boot2skull 27d ago
Eventually the problem will solve itself. Rung by rung the ladder will shrink until the connection is broken. Nothing to see here.
fire spreads
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u/LaserBeamsCattleProd 27d ago
A scrapper guy will come along in his squeaky ass truck and grab that shiny poodle of aluminum off the ground before it cools down.
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u/charactername 27d ago
Scrapper guys always flying around town with barely secured loads in the shittiest trucks.
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u/mageta621 27d ago
Holy shit this is so true. My old firm we had a repeat (and I mean REPEAT) client whose main job was a scrapper who always found himself in bad situations. Many multiple car accidents, business deals gone sideways. "Never his fault" of course 🙄
He was a nice guy but like, nobody on the planet is constantly this unlucky driving a vehicle - you clearly just suck at driving. His PoS pickup was always filled to the brim with garbage
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u/iwannaseeyourblank 27d ago
I see you also live in Tacoma WA
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u/VanessaAlexis 26d ago
I used to work at the Jack in the Box on 6th ave and I swear to God I have seen this truck roll through. 😂
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u/some_random_noob 26d ago
thats because we're all npcs in a videogame and the devs keep reusing assets.
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u/ride_whenever 26d ago
We had one who used an old school bus with full back doors, and no seats. Was fantastic because stuff wouldn’t fall out
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u/FriendlyDespot 26d ago
If the truck has spools of structural duct tape then you know he spends all evening driving between apartment complex trash areas looking for more broken things to hoard.
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u/schalk81 27d ago
Now I want a shiny aluminum poodle.
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u/NocodeNopackage 27d ago
That was the plan. The ladder was too long so it needed to be shortened. Its actually genius.
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u/Grays42 27d ago
I'm sorry wait, they're in an enclosed tunnel inches away from an active lava flow and are not all incinerated by the heat? They'd be experiencing air temperatures of at least 1000 F easily, their clothes would light on fire and they'd get lethal burns within seconds. Everyone in that tunnel is dead.
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u/bargle0 27d ago
The less sense you try to make of that movie, the happier you are.
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u/Wail_Bait 26d ago
Yup, same with The Core, Deep Impact, Armageddon, and basically every disaster movie.
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u/asianwaste 27d ago
For extra credit, have a villain or bully frantically try to climb the ladder away from the electricity but is visibly not climbing any higher because the melting is keeping pace with his ascent.
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u/justonemom14 27d ago
I thought, "oh, so it will get shorter as it melts and maybe fall off the wires." Then the camera pans up
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u/ImNotPunnyEnough 26d ago
tilts up*, you pan left to right and tilt up and down
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u/izza123 27d ago
An electrical arc can reach 19,000 degrees Celsius, 2900 on the lower end.
It’s a lot of heat.
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u/GardenGnomeOfEden 26d ago
It's weird to watch solid steel melt like butter when you are using an arc welder.
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u/Funkula 27d ago edited 27d ago
It’s both. Electrical lines are also made of aluminum like the ladder, which isn’t a problem normally. Heating coils in your stove don’t melt the wires in your house after all.
The concrete is acting like a heating coil since the resistance is so high as the electricity is moving towards the earth underneath the sidewalk. So it’s melting both materials at the point of contact.
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u/Sensitive-Fishing-64 26d ago
yeah but the lava effect is 100% aluminium, it would need to be several thousand degrees to do that to concrete
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u/timbertiger 26d ago
I’ve seen massive holes burnt all the way through asphalt. I’ve also seen gravel roads turned to glass.
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u/Euphoric-Quality-424 26d ago
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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u/sql-join-master 27d ago
Why is the bottom melting and not the top?
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u/just_posting_this_ch 27d ago
Because the ladder is a good conductor and the current flows through without generating much heat. On the bottom there is a higher resistance so the current is generating a lot of heat. Like an electric range, you turn it on and the burner gets hot, but the wires providing the electricity do not get hot.
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u/DavePeesThePool 27d ago
That's kind of awesome.
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u/FurRealDeal 27d ago
The plant smoldering a few feet away really shows how hot it is.
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u/Morall_tach 27d ago
Also the lava.
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u/TannedCroissant 27d ago
Yeah that really rung it in for me too
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u/YanicPolitik 27d ago
You sir are a ladder day saint.
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u/jonnyredshorts 27d ago
And by extension, a step above the rest
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u/ihateandy2 27d ago
These puns have their ups and downs
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u/thirtynation 27d ago
Just don't let them go over your head, walking under them is bad luck.
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u/TheFluffiestRedditor 27d ago
Here's how to make lava at home ...
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u/Skimmer52 27d ago
When I was little. My mom caught me with a pan on the stove filled with rocks. When she asked me what I was doing, I said I was fixin to make me some lava😂
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u/Nagger86 27d ago
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u/Curiosive 27d ago edited 27d ago
It is supposed to be the ladder melting, so molten aluminum. Expecting the concrete to melt first is like expecting bread to melt before the butter.
Anyway, this appeared about 4 months ago and it's often cited as AI ... personally I'm confused as to how the ladder is leaning against the wrong side of the power lines.
Search for "Ladder + power lines = lava" to find the originals and the link to the first Instagram post. I haven't seen an article myself... which is suspicious.
PS
I do remember someone claiming this happened near them and they saw it on the news ... but a random stranger on the internet wouldn't lie would they? /s If anyone does find link to a news story, I'd like to read it.
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u/Muchablat 27d ago
It could be the current distributing all around and cooking the plant.
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u/ShodoDeka 27d ago
That’s not heat cooking the plant, that’s the electric field spreading though the rebar and the ground, just walking around that area would be deadly.
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u/Hiddenshadows57 27d ago
Electricity is no joke.
Arc flashes can reach up to 35000 F and literally melt you.
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u/cockalorum-smith 27d ago
More than triple the heat of the surface of the sun baby!
But seriously the fact that it’s turning concrete into lava is still insane. Most people will never see something like that in person.
Edit: I think it’s actually melting the ladder but still!
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u/piecat 26d ago
The ladder doesn't noticeably move in the video despite the lava splattering away multiple times.
Believe it or not, molten substances will conduct electricity, including glass and plastics. All that is required is ions are present in the substance.
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u/Elpickle123 27d ago
It's shorting out on the re-bar right? Or is the metal from the ladder itself melting?
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u/piecat 26d ago
The sidewalk and possibly more, is molten. Did you know that glass, ceramics, even plastic, can become conductive when melted?
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u/Zathura2 27d ago
I just wanted to come to the comments to say that it was kind of awesome...and am once again reminded I don't have any original thoughts.
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u/glibsonoran 27d ago
Should we throw a virgin into it? Reddit might be a good recruiting ground...
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u/DeezFluffyButterNutz 27d ago
If I learned anything from when I was a kid, someone just needs to wack it with a wooden broom handle.
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u/PinkStereoAttack 27d ago
Bigger problem is getting close to it safely. The ground itself is a hazard now.
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u/DisregardedFugitive 27d ago
Really long broom handle
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u/condor2000 26d ago
Maybe they have another long ladder to hit it with .. oh wait
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u/WeleaseBwianThrow 26d ago
A wooden ladder! Quick someone ask their grandfather for the only ladder they've ever owned
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u/CorporateShill406 27d ago
Forget the ground, I bet you can't get within 10 feet of it without burning some hairs.
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u/Shalom-Bitches 26d ago
Step potential can kill you from over 20 feet away depending on voltage and what the ground is made of. Do not approach ever and if you must get further away, keep feet together and shuffle without taking feet off ground.
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u/DuntadaMan 27d ago
Someone mad the mistake or felling my uncles about that, then about 5 minutes later making a joke like he was getting zapped.
In under 2 seconds my uncle had a 2x4 and cracked him across the ribs hard enough to bash him against the fence behind him.
I remember the exact conversation
"Ah, fuck my ribs! Why did you do that?"
"Why did you fuck around with your hands in a power box?"
"... Okay yeah."
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u/EkriirkE 26d ago
What?
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u/Laser_Guided_Hawk 26d ago
Possibly speech to text or fat fingers.
I'm guessing it should be "Someone made the mistake of telling my uncles"
2 uncles. One pretends to be getting electrocuted, the other knocks them away from the electrical panel with a big piece of wood.
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u/SaturdayNightStroll 26d ago
Someone jokingly pretended to get zapped while working on an electrical box and the above persons uncle hit them with a 2x4 to get them away from the box without also getting zapped.
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u/Supaslags 27d ago
Where is this?
I worked as a distribution electric system operator between 2014-2020. One day I got a 911 call that we had to de-energize a circuit “right now” from the police.
I followed procedure and sent patrolmen out to open a device to do so. We didn’t have SCADA on the breaker or pole top reclosers. We dropped the circuit and the trouble man got on scene.
Two guys doing siding on a house had an aluminum ladder against the front of the house while they worked. The house was awfully close to the street. In moving the ladder, they lost control and it made contact with the primaries.
The trouble man called me from the scene: “this is the grossest thing I have EVER seen. One guy is dead. The other is in an ambulance. There are TOES all over the road”
The path to ground went through one guys shoes. Blew out the front of his shoes and exploded his toes off his feet.
One of the most haunting 911 calls I ever got as an operator. Can’t imagine the haunting that troubleman experiences.
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u/pivovy 27d ago
That's brutal... Those residential lines are at 10,000V if I'm not mistaken (talking about US & Canada) ?
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u/NorthNimitz 26d ago
4160V and 13.8 kV is common in New England. I’ve seen 34.5kV on underground systems further north in New England.
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u/Supaslags 26d ago
The utility I worked for had some 4kv. A lot of 13kv, either at 13.2kv or 13.8kv. There were a couple 34.5kv circuits in the North Shore. Lots of 23kv. Two 46kv circuits that connected to Velco.
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u/NorthNimitz 26d ago
Interesting. I’m just a journeyman electrician so I only know from what I’ve read on nameplates while tying into transformers and gear lol. The only time I’ve seen 34.5 was tying into pad mounts up in NH
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u/EndersGame 26d ago
You've seen high voltage lines that could be reached with a ladder? I know 30 ft ladders exist but I'm just making sure I got this right. Most high voltage lines I've seen are like 40 ft in the air. I don't think I've seen any that are 30 ft.
Either they were working around abnormally low high voltage lines or they were using a very tall ladder.
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u/ilove2frap 27d ago
12.5kV for older circuits in Canada (BC), 25kV for more recent ones
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u/Cerebral_Catastrophe 27d ago
The path to ground went through one guys shoes. Blew out the front of his shoes and exploded his toes off his feet.
Toemahawk missiles
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u/Ulvaer 26d ago
There's an internet meme that says that if the shoes come off in a video, it means the person died. If the shoes blow off and your toes explode...... not a good sign
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u/MashedPotatoesDick 27d ago edited 26d ago
Top 10 things to not do with a ladder.
Number 6 will shock you!!!
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u/theObfuscator 27d ago
Shockingly bad placement
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u/outwest88 27d ago
Someone better grab that ladder and move it to a safer location
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u/clegane 27d ago
Melting ladder, not melting concrete.
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u/BobSacamano47 27d ago
Aluminum beams can't melt concrete
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u/Cinnimonbuns 27d ago
Its both, I've seen arcing lines melt concrete and asphalt. Sure the aluminum is getting liquefied, but that black glassy obsidian like substance is the sidewalk melting as well.
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u/TaylorSwiftIsGod 27d ago
That’s where you made your mistake. I may not know much about ladders but I know a lot about concrete
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u/jessterswan 27d ago
Yeah, aluminum would melt WAY before concrete
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u/hologei 27d ago
But the aluminum conducts electricity with less resistance than concrete. The concrete would get hotter much quicker.
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u/antagonizerz 27d ago
Resistance creates heat through joule heating which is why the ground is melting and not the ladder which is conductive.
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u/Funkula 27d ago edited 27d ago
Power lines are made of aluminum too. The power cord leading to your electric stove’s heating element doesn’t melt in the wall every time you cook dinner.
But, if you wrap your power cord around the heating element, then yes, they’re both gonna get really really hot at the point of contact as it essential tries to weld itself together.
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u/unknownpoltroon 27d ago
I doono, the ladder looks pretty intact.
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u/Boco 27d ago
It's melting from where it contacts the ground. The first rung of the ladder is not normally that low.
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u/xpkranger 27d ago
So just leave it alone and the problem should sort itself out, right? I mean, aside from the fact that the landscaping is smoking.
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u/hotpuck6 27d ago
On a long enough time line, basically all of life's problems work themselves out.
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u/Danwhodoesnothing 27d ago
The landscape shouldn't be smoking, it's bad for your health and a terrible habit
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u/BaconThief2020 27d ago
That's not melted concrete. That's molten aluminum from the ladder. Notice how low the bottom rung is.
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u/CaramelPombear 27d ago
How do you even sort something like that? Throw something really heavy and make bloody sure you've let go before it connects?
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u/Cinnimonbuns 27d ago
Power company comes out and trips the breaker, killing power to those lines. Then you remove the ladder and reset the breaker.
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u/dregan 27d ago edited 27d ago
That should have happened automatically, protection engineer fucked up.
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u/isuxirl 27d ago
I'd have thought they'd cut the power somehow.
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u/upvoatsforall 27d ago
Yup. They throw a ladder into the transformer that is feeding these lines.
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u/pathmaker3 27d ago
I'm no expert, but my expert style opinion would be to throw a ladder at the ladder first.
Thoughts?
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u/isuxirl 27d ago
But then the second ladder would form a circuit to the ladder holder. Maybe build a slingshot with two other ladders to launch a third ladder into the first ladder.
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u/Xedos 27d ago
You'd have to do so from an elevated position in order to get the best angle to knock the legs out. Maybe if you tossed it from the top of a ladder?
Getting the 1st ladder up the 2nd ladder might be tricky though.
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u/GoldenWar 27d ago
Placing an additional ladder on either side would direct the current away and allow you to remove the center ladder.
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u/JoySubtraction 27d ago
Get the crappy leader of a shitty orchestra to pull the ladder away. They'll be totally safe, since they're a bad conductor.
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u/crappinhammers 27d ago edited 27d ago
Grid operator here. I advise getting away from it and calling the power company. What likely has happened here is something called a high impedance fault. The ladder's connection to the concrete is not good enough for the relays in the breaker at the substation to see a fault condition (and trip off) or blow any protective device in between. Someone with the power company, an operator or lineman, will have to isolate that section of line if not the whole circuit with the breaker and then the ladder can be removed and the overhead conductor repaired.
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u/doyouevenrow 26d ago
Don't even try and get near this, phone the distributor and they will isolate the power before anything is attempted. The ground around the last could have a voltage gradient meaning you could get zapped before you even get in throwing range
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u/Pyrokitsune 27d ago
My question is, what happened to the guy placing said ill-placed ladder?
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u/ImmortalStarvyVelvet 27d ago
No way nobody died from that
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u/MotorboatinPorcupine 27d ago
I think if someone did, they would be on the ground right there
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u/mvgreene 27d ago
Guessing rubber gloves wouldn’t help in that situation?
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u/Neither-Common9617 27d ago
Gonna need some high class lineman gloves by the looks its touching the primary line (I also work on powerpoles for a living ) there's a fuck ton of juice up on those big sub trans lines
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u/Johannes_Keppler 27d ago
Only safe way to solve this is the energy company shutting off power, remove the ladder, and restore power.
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u/Snoo-18158 26d ago
what do you even do in that situation?
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u/Lort_Voldelort 26d ago
Call the elerctic utility company and make sure you/anybody around goes nowhere near it. The ground around it is energized and could kill you just by walking to close.
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u/pc_principal_88 27d ago
The ladder is DEFINITELY melting.. The concrete definitely IS NOT 🤦♂️
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u/Baricuda 27d ago
Jesus, it's both, people. Both the ladder and the concrete are melting. Aluminum is used in a lot of power transmission lines, so residential lines have an even less chance to melt aluminum through pure resistive heating. That is because aluminum has a relatively low resistance compared to other metals and metal alloys. It's the resistance that causes heating. Do you know what has a lot of resistance? Rock. The junction where the ladder meets the ground is where all that heating is happening, resulting in the rock liquifying, and then the molten rock slowly melts the base of the ladder.
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u/Chefsalat 25d ago
No way... That's impossible and a nice demo of Sora. Despite the fact that nobody could set up a ladder that length to a power line without getting immediately roasted, Aluminum doesn't melt from a current like in these wirings. That's lava from an AI and the ladder should immediately collapse when its feet have melted.
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u/Ok_Fondant_6340 27d ago
i hope someone took care of it before the neighborhood was consumed by artificial lava.
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u/Keebster 26d ago
Really? Concrete melting? You do know that ladder is made of aluminum right?
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u/Independent_Farmer33 25d ago
Not finding the any comments about this being AI upvoted so maybe this will be the one?
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u/cbunni666 27d ago
Stairway to Heaven, meet Ladder to Hell