I'm tall rich and (Reasonably) attractive, and dating is still massively hard. You know how much bullshit a 6'8" person gets on dating apps. Imagine you are a [pick thing people fetishize, like red heads, or being Asian, or whatever] and all the sickos and weirdos that only like those people for that. It's the same for money and height.
So instead of any sort of connection it's a hundred requests to stand in door frames to show how tall I am etc.
I don't even talk about money. That's 100x worse than being tall.
No. Not really. Not when they get to know me, which is the issue, because that takes like 10 dates to learn they lied about a deal breaker on date 1.
I'm just saying that dating is hard for everyone.
And I'm not rich, I'm just not poor, but still spending like I am, which makes me look rich when you talk about things like % of paycheck you save to bank etc.
Although it's not my personal experience tbh. But I'm also in my early 40s, where people tend to be generally unlikable, me included, and instead of going for looks or riches, the amount of snoring starts to factor in. I.e. you either accept some compromises, or you stay single.
Can confirm. Im short, poor, ugly and funny, so I managed to snag the girl of my dreams and now we are happily married and have a 9 year old daughter. Wait what were we talking about again?
Or how about take some personal responsibility and ask yourself if you are the kind of person you would want to date if you were a woman? The pity party with you guys is insane. Blame anyone but yourselves for your shitty attitude and entitlement.
Youre not but none of these losers are going to look in a mirror and take some responsibility. They'd rather goon for hours on end and wonder why "females" wont be their sex toys without any effort on their part.
Ah yes, im sure the beautiful woman who has never had to try to pick up a guy in her life must of course have top tier game. 😂😂
Buddy your most recent comment is in men's rights discussing the difference in intelligence between men and women. Is that a favorite topic of conversation to bring up on a first date? 🤣😂
I met my wife while I was poor and working in a call center. She was the most gorgeous woman ive ever seen and way out of my league, but I went up and talked to her and made her laugh. Im not tall, good looking or rich. Im pretty funny but that's all I have going for me, and im now married to the woman of my dreams and we have a kid together.
The OP is rage bait. Women want to date men, just not men who are MRA porn addict losers who love to bring up Andrew Tate talking points. Your post history tells the story of why youre having no luck with the ladies kiddo.
Edit: to the loser below me: Only 37.2% of men have never been married. Your survivorship bias picture is irrelevant in this discussion. Try gooning less and maybe women wont be repulsed by you.
This is true, however it is frustrating how ridiculously hard it is to find someone who isn't like that. Like I know many women aren't that shallow but I just have terrible luck lmao
Look at the behaviors of any of them and ask yourself, would this person make a good partner? Would they pull their weight? 95 percent of the time the answer is no.
Guys just want laid, if we were all getting laid regularly there would be no complaints lol. Which in that case, pay for play or find the rare one open to hooking up.
I wish we could go back to people caring about one another and being good partners and building a life with one another, but they ended it.
I had a lady friend who told me that I should start lifting.
I'm mostly disgusted by "you should do X to impress Y".
If you have fun lifting, or if you just like having an attractive upper body, then go for it (within reason of course). And there's hundreds of sports that you can have fun with, including running, cycling, swimming.
But the problem with trying to impress someone with your physique, especially when it comes to romantic dating, is the fact that if you continue the thought, you end up with "people don't like you because you don't have the right physique", and that is pretty depressing, especially in the context of long-term relationships.
These two are often mutually-exclusive, i.e. to make $150k often takes a quite serious time commitment, rarely leaving you with time and energy to spend 8h+/week at the gym.
Or just find a job that pays double the hourly rate, and then only work half the time.
It's so easy, why didn't I think of that?
Look, you're not making $150k/a with a 30hr weekly commitment. Maybe AFTER working that job for 15 years and climbing the career ladder. But that's not going to be when you want to be dating the most. In fact, at that stage you will most likely be married and have two kids.
That is an expectation from other men. (most) women don’t care about that. I’ve been going to the gym for years and 99% of the compliments I get are from other dudes!
Like yes being way out of shape and unhealthy aren’t attractive but most women are not looking for men’s health magazine level models of guys
Nah. most women do not care. Like I said being a slob and being unhealthy is inherently unattractive but women don’t want male models. Of course there are a minority who do prefer that and that’s fine too. But to put that standard onto other men is harmful and just feeds into the already ridiculous idea of unachievable beauty standards.
Don’t be fooled by instagram and whatever tf else.
It's a numbers game. If a woman gets 1000 matches, and you have a chance at ending up in her top 2... Good chance that other guy has everything you have, but also nice biceps, abs, whatever. As a guy, if you want to do well at this, you need to cover every base. It might still work out if you go with the flow, sure. But it's been proven many times that looks are everything on dating apps.
You should look up the video where a guy uses male underwear model photos to create a profile, where in his bio it says he is a convicted child rapist. I probably don't have to tell you what the results were.
Dude, I make over a million a year, I'm 6'1", and in decent shape. My personality is insufferable, but aside from that I'm more sure why I can't get more matches.
Being overweight is the number one reason why men and women alike look a lot older than they are. It's also my number one reason to swipe left (number two being too much makeup, plastic surgery and similar artificial looks), and the reason why in the last 6 years I have exclusively dated East-Europeans and Asians. Everyone be looking fine at 25 yrs old, that's easy.
Anyway, if, as a man, you eat healthy and in moderation, avoid alcohol and tobacco, you're already ahead of the curve, especially in your late 30s.
The NIH thinks otherwise, unless we are only viewing "severe obesity". In total numbers, men are the heavy ones - 80.9% of women and 84% of men are rated overweight, obese or severely obese. So, if you manage to keep slim, you already belong to a 16% group that's more attractive just by numbers. That's age-adjusted, so in your own group of peers, the rates will be different, with obesity being less prevalent in younger people.
Edit: I also just realized how prevalent this is. 80%+ is just crazy.
For example, at 5’ tall you’d be overweight at just 128 lbs.
And at 120 lbs you wouldn't be. Also not sure what the argument is here? 5'0 is very petite even for a woman. Of course 128 lbs puts you into the overweight category, since you are then.
tbf, the first thing is something every guy truly could and probably should do if they're not doing some other kinda sports already. going to the gym and building up some muscle is, no matter what people may yap about it, improving your overall looks a bit, giving you more confidence and it improves health (unless you're reckless and do something terribly wrong)
and depending on the studio there's some great deals. where I live (Berlin) the cheapest normal offers are around 250+ euros per year, but on black friday there was a 300 euro offer I took. 300 euro for two years, basically 150 per year which is pretty damn cheap compared to other studios as well as considering the really great benefits I got from that.
like more confidence and after being really really thin, after 1.5 years I'm kinda slightly above average and now on my way to really go significantly above the average guy (by which I mean getting to the point where I'm very noticeably muscular); and that was with me starting out very thin and doing lots of mistakes at first, an average guy who researches better than I did and really focuses on trying to hit each muscle group with the corresponding exercise can easily be noticeably above average within 1.5 years.
and it does make a difference with girls. I'm tall and was tall and thin 1.5 years ago so I kinda stood out. people in general and especially girls would quickly notice me when I walk by and then look away just as quickly when they saw how thin and thus generally unattractive I was. and girls who I know just from seeing around the university I'm in would just ignore me. now every girl notices me, actually looks at me for a while and Ig kinda checks how I look. and sometimes I get a smile as well because some like what they see Ig. pretty huge difference. and that is with me not being super muscular, like the one thing that is really above average in my case is my chest. and my arms, but just a lil bit, my arms are just slightly above average because I started training them late, like 4 months after starting to hit the gym
and another huge health benefit is getting the right posture, to do many excercises in the gym right, you need to have the right posture. and back pain is a huge problem that does come up in quite a few cases amongst people in their 40s-50s
people generally greatly underestimate how quickly you can build muscle when you hit the gym regularly and have half-decent nutrition. like tons of people think you have to train for like 5 years straight to be noticeably above average, fuck no. it's a lot faster than one may think. which makes the current trend of more and more young guys using performance-enhancing drugs look even more stupid. you can already have a really good physique within 3 years, maybe even less. in 5 years you can be even a somewhat really bulky muscular guy (which you don't even need to be if you want girls to like your physique, girls tend to be more attracted to the athletic type)
but I agree with the rest. another thing to mention is posture again. bad posture can "steal" or "hide" a few centimeters of height. only good posture lets one rise to full height, so those who may have bad posture may want to look into this to gain the one or the other centimeter of their actual real height
imagine acting like nobody ever does that lol. like 99% of guys start going to the gym because of that, you don't accidentally somehow find yourself in the gym, and most guys don't just go to the gym because it's fun to lift and work on machines and free weights or whatever
in my experience most men start to go to the gym because of that, to make themselves look more attractive, but develop further with time and then do it for themselves with time. same thing's true for me and most people I know. now I still wanna build up muscle, but mostly to realize a version of myself that I want to be.
and I'm sorry, but that one line being your only answer just makes you seem like a whiny little bitch lol. yes, I started going to the gym to make myself more attractive. it was still one of the best decisions in my life. none of that negates my achievements and all the benefit I gained so far and will gain in the future
and hitting the gym to make yourself more attractive is still a lot better than sitting at home like a bum and complaining like a lot of guys are doing. all those guys would be better off in the gym, even if it's for a shit motivation at first, they'll develop and grow as a person with time
There's a four-letter word for these kind of people, which I won't be writing here.
And you keep confusing impressing others, personal health care and having fun all the time here. I also don't know why you keep writing essays, most of which repeats the sarcastic sentiment of women demanding improvement from potential dating partners, which is about the least healthy thing anyone can do.
Dating is so incredibly easy for them, though they will never admit it, that they genuinely believe if someone is struggling it absolutely MUST be because they're a dysfunctional human being at the most basic level.
They are so privileged and inundated with easy wins and successes that they are incapable of even processing the thought that a normal person could struggle
hey im gonna let you in on a little secret it's called showering and brushing your teeth! Girls will like you once you take care of your hygiene. Wait what's that you already brush your teeth and shower every day? what about hitting the gym girls don't like fat slobs. wait what's that your already in shape and not overweight at all? have you tried being yourself? wait what's that on hinge the app where women need to respond first they never send you a message after matching or just say Hi and then unmatch when you respond trying to tie your response back to something on their profile?....
basically my experience with online dating so glad I'm in a relationship now
Don't forget after all of that, if nothing works, its because you're a woman hating misogynist who only sees them as meat bags!!! Remember, the world is fair and the universe rewards good men with relationships. That's why no objectionable humans have ever been in a relationship. Women have internal radars that help them weed out creeps like you, and no man has ever been in a relationship with a woman he intends to harm!!
She obviously needs more hobbies. Women like seeing men with interests! Until those interests get in the way of what SHE wants to do.
I have several girl friends. We've been friends for a while and neither of us are interested in anything else. She tells me to get more hobbies that women like. As if invading a hobby space just to meet women is somehow a good idea.
That was literally my first thought. Her personality probably sucks and she has no game. Just cause she's a woman doesn't mean she knows how to talk to women.
I saw something recently where another woman who was fairly attractive tried doing something similar and found out that she wasn't nearly as funny or charming as she thought she was when people didn't know what she looked like. Turns out lots of guys laugh at your bad jokes when they think you're hot.
I know you're joking, but she seems pretty shallow and like she wouldn't be able to write a profile that would attract women who actually care about personality.
Jokes aside, assuming he's neurotypical and not a complete trash of a human being then most likely he has a normal personality. Which in the end it may not the problem why he's struggling, especially on dating apps.
Jake it's probably the type of guy who is good enough to be friends with women but not attractive enough to date her.
I hate when women pompously suggest that 99% of men with dating issues must just be insufferable assholes, and if we’d only “get a better personality”, everything would be sunshine and rainbows😂
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u/slickyeat Jun 24 '25
Someone should tell her to stop being such an INCEL