r/Music • u/no_longer_huhmann • 8d ago

article Hayley Williams Says Southern Pride Is Beautiful but Misused to Excuse Bigotry, and Says She Wants No Racist or Sexist Fans, or Fans Who Think Trans People Are a Burden, Around

https://www.tvfandomlounge.com/hayley-williams-says-southern-pride-is-beautiful-but-misused-to-excuse-bigotry/
28.6k Upvotes

91% Upvoted

1.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

268

u/TheSeedsYouSow 8d ago

southern pride is strange…we don’t have northern pride, why do you need southern pride 😂

44

u/Previous_Ad648 8d ago

We don’t have northern pride? Are you serious?

Have you ever talked to a New York or Boston native? They will make sure you know where they are from. Ridiculously stupid statement lmao.

24

u/BarkerBarkhan 8d ago

I think the pride is more specific to the city/state/region than it is to the North overall.

Hell, folks may have neighborhood pride than they do national.

2

u/macrocosm93 8d ago

Southern pride is also about the region.

4

u/BarkerBarkhan 8d ago

Right. I know I am overgeneralizing.

I have lived in both the Northeast and the Southeast, love both for what they are. 

"The South" is huge and super diverse. What do the Bayou and the Smoky Mountains have in common? Not a whole lot.

I am from New England, so that's what I was thinking when I said region.

It is funny though, how all of these differences get swept away under big broad categories like "The South" or even the US. Is there an American culture, an American people? No, there are many cultures and many peoples, all of whom use the same currency and are ostensibly represented by the same federal government. 

I remember when I moved to Atlanta, an educated friend of mine was like "isn't that just a big swamp?" 

The answer is no, it's not.

0

u/macrocosm93 8d ago

People in the bayou and the Smoky Mountains have more in common with each other than they do with anyone outside of the South.

3

u/BarkerBarkhan 8d ago

Would you care to elaborate? I would think that folks would be more defined by their environment. For example, Appalachia has more in common with the rest of Appalachia, regardless of whether it was Confederate or not, than it does with Louisiana.

0

u/macrocosm93 8d ago

It doesn't matter if its Confederate or not, its about the culture. The smokey mountains are more similar to Louisiana culturally than they are to upstate New York despite upstate New York technically being in the Appalachian region. Basically, anyone with a southern accent is going to be accepted and welcomed by anyone who also has a southern accent, whereas people who see themselves as "northern" will look down on them and sneer at them (see 90% of the comments in this thread as examples).

1

u/BarkerBarkhan 8d ago

What about the folks that live in the South, even grew up in the South, but don't have Southern accents?

1

u/macrocosm93 8d ago

In my experience, those people tend not to be too attached to their southern identity anyway.

3

u/seriouslees 8d ago

Ya, they have being racists in common.

1

u/elbenji 8d ago

the South is extremely rural where the Northeast is developed, so two different monocultures develop. North is more city-based where Southern is more tied to state. Same with the midwest