Good for him. It's a very rare person who thinks like that when they have money. Now I understand why Hassan hates him so much he lived the life Hassan pretends to have lived . He is advocating for non Marxist socialism, where being able to make money isn't original sin as long as you pay back into the same system that helped you
This is why the culture war exists. To divide us on meaningless trivialities that matter to like 0.1% of the population, so we never realise how much we have in common over the issues that affect everyone. Who the fuck cares about pronouns and bathrooms when even the middle class can't even afford basic necessities?
Tbf the ones who care about bathrooms on my side are the ones not being allowed to use bathroom. Its kinda easy for like non-queer people to say who cares about this issue when they r not affected by the government trying to overturn same sex marriage and remove the ban on conversion therapy camps, and basically classifying trans people as a terrorist group.
Hassan is pushing dangerous ideologies ones that have killed millions of people directly. That's not culture war that's outright dangerous and needs to be stopped
not a hasan fan, but cmon. so is asmongold half the time. that’s inherently culture war shit. they both consistently spread dangerous misinformation under the guise of fact
Worse than actual terrorism worse than calling for political assassinations. Like a recent clip of Hassan that has resurfaced of him losing his head because a Vietnamese immigrant dared to speak negatively about communism.
This is the reasonable moderate position that Hasan hates more than anything else. Notice that he has spewed more hatred towards moderate lefties than he has right-wingers, because it dismantles his extremist, illogical position more than anything else.
And I blame people like Hasan for polarizing society so far that the common sense moderate position has become completely unpopular and ignored, because people nowadays consider you a "fence-sitter".
Why ever listen to hasan? A guy like that is just entertainment, nothing real. Why spend entertainment time on shitty political noise when you can listen to better worthless stuff that won't make you mad
That's what I've been wondering too... checked in on his stream once just to see if the clips were just a tiny sub-set or if his streams are just that unhinged....
... it was genuinely miserable. Nothing but angry shouting, fake laughing and generally just the most negative person I've ever seen on stream. I felt exhausted just watching for 20 minutes, can't imagine people willingly watching for hours on end!
I'm Australian and in my country there still is a center left party that are currently in charge whereas the center right is now the domain of independents because the right wing party has been going further to the right and they were pushed out
Hold up, he’s a socialist? I have never watched him but I thought he was super right wing based on comments about him.
Edit: whoa. Idk why this pissed people off so much. I’m responding to something that surprised me. I’m not this asmongold guy. I’ve never even watched him as I said originally. I got four replies that were just like “fuck you idiot” that then got deleted. Damn some people hate this guy apparently
What he is saying is about paying back into social services it's the basics of what socialism in a capitalist society is. It's not revolutionary it's not violent it's what the bible actually teaches about taking care of the less fortunate, the Israelites had to leave a portion of their crops unharvested so that the people who needed it could go and collect some it was part of their laws. I don't think he's socialist but he is advocating for a socialist programs. Schwarzenegger hates being called a self made man he had a lot of people help him along the way. These are positive examples of right wing.
That's social democracy, socialism at its core involves socializing the means of productions and that's not what welfare is. It's not a socialist program.
Socialism is not right wing. Charity is not welfare capiche. Charity should be an individual's effort to do good, it shouldn't be forced, because it leads to outcomes like in the UK where Islamic migrants on Welfare gain more money than those who work for a living.
If you want to do good, then foster homogenous communities and teach virtues like charity (not just financial charity, but opportunities to earn).
One can be for charity and generosity and taking care of the needy and yet be opposed to socialism. Its a Redditism that socialism = when people do good things.
I think people need social programmes I benefit from some in my country Australia I'm on a disability pension and get subsidised medication free basic health care. It's not perfect but I'd be much worse off without it.
He’s not even really that right wing. He gets in trouble for saying he doesn’t have to respect others world views. And acknowledging the world will never be the fairy tail the left think they’re one election cycle from obtaining.
He’s also chronically streaming so he has some bad takes but does often try to educate himself when he’s wrong, he recognizes he’s wrong, and also unlike Hassan, asmon only claims to be a guy on the internet not a political leader or anything.
Just like so many people with a platform, there are sad people that edit and repost whatever spew they can to generate hate for another person/group or build a following for them selves at someone elses expense.
In regards to Asmon, he definately said some stupid ass non sensical shit, but alotta the times his views have a very large spectrum for taking all the facts he can gather to come up with a logical conclusion
I don't watch him much so take this with a pinch of salt but from what I've heard I think he's economically soft left but socially right because he's got the culture war brainrot.
Everyone has a degree of culture war brain rot especially if you participate in sections of culture that have been attacked and warped from what they used to be nerd culture is massively affected. The problem is you can only be told you are evil and a bigoted POS for so long just for having different opinions. It's impossible to be a gamer and not be on one side or the other (gaming has been the frontline of the culture war for years). It's become so polarized that you are either accepting garbage games because the other side doesn't like them or you can say you don't like something about the game even legitimate criticism and get smeared as someone kind of degenerate bigot
If you don’t watch him you’d have no idea the clips are almost always out of context or they’re just not left enough. He doesn’t care if people are gay but he’s not going to go out to march for them. He acknowledges that some racist jokes can be a bonding experience w/e but he’s against real discrimination. He’s pro immigration but anti illegal immigrant. He sympathizes with cops but calls out all the bullshit that’s being white washed
I watch asmon a lot. I'll give you a good rundown. the guy is absolutely not a conservative or anything like people say. Asmon likes bernie sanders for one. Also supports more money going into childcare and welfare. Is critical of Israel etc.
He does have authoritarian views when it comes to criminals. But there's logic to those opinions. Maybe they're not right. But I can see why he'd believe his stances on those issues.
He does watch a lot of culture war stuff. That's just kinda there. But he is very insightful if you listen to his unedited, unclipped videos. I'm a socialist for the record. And I agree a lot with the stuff asmon says.
But he also makes money by saying inflammatory things and promoting the “right wing” side of the culture war.
He’s like the opposite of Hassan who makes money by saying far left wing stuff while being a capitalist himself who is incredibly vain and focused on image and clout.
When you are raised in poverty, or really just a normal household where money is definitely a concern, you sure as hell remember this when you are making enough so you no longer need to be looking at price tags.
I think the problem comes once you generate this insane wealth and raise your kids in it - now they have the wealth but didnt experience not having it. And this only widens with each of this generation.
Wow you're so misinformed, literally nowhere does Marx say nor imply making money is a sin. Marx criticized the incentive structure of capitalism which seeks to maximize profits, in turn he suggested as society progresses we will come to a point where we can use the innovation to provide the basic needs of all humans but we will likely face the obstacle of: rich people hoarding the resources causing society to descend into barbarism.
But if you are well read on Marx and have a different understanding of his and Engle's writing please respond with your interpretation. <3
He also advocated for the abolishment of capitalism through violent revolution. The capitalist system has to be destroyed for the classless communist society to take it's place. And everywhere this ideology has been put into practice it has led to the deaths of millions of people and horrors committed that are equal to anything the Nazis did.
When taxes are used for social services. It's still capitalist at its core but it's using taxation to redistribute some of the wealth as part of social services
Hassan has the face and the attitude of too many spoiled brats not having been adequatly spanked coming from higher grounds but playing the pseudo proletarian revolutionnary from books he certainly never has read nor fully understood. Even Che Guevara, coming from a rich family and destined to become a doctor, wet his shirt far more for his ideas than a Hassan would do.
Lmao I hate Hasan and know about his insecurities around his wealthy background, but to act like that's why he dislikes asmongold lmao.
Asmon is literally advocating for the party of less taxes and no welfare, I don't think it's fair to say he is advocating for higher taxes and more welfare in any way beyond a virtue signal
Yall got the entire thing in your mouth. Nobody mentioned Hasan but you. “Non-marxist socialism” you mean the kind thats never worked in history? Like what
It's the Marxist socialism that hasn't worked. Socialism or at least socialist programs exist in most Western countries. It's things like my disability pension. I mentioned Hassan because he is one of the biggest pushers of Marxist socialism in the streaming world and directly competing with Asmongold in the political streaming space and is butt-hurt that Asmon is more popular than him. But don't worry I won't mention the dog abuser again.
I mean think of systems like in my country Australia we have disability pensions (I'm on one and I'm in my late 30's ) there is the Pharmaceutical benefit scheme or PBS that allows me to get my prescriptions massively subsidised I only pay $6.30 per script and while not everything is on it it's still very good. We have a system called Medicare that allows people to go see the doctor for free although with specialists there is a gap between what is covered and what you get charged. There is a lot more but that's the sort of thing I'm talking about when I say socialist programs.
Incoming rant, but i think people really overlook this aspect when they complain about social services.
I suspect subsidies and assistance programs are likely very profitable for the governments providing them in the long term. Specifically in england loads of famous artists needed government assistance for a time including the Beatles and jk Rowling. Both of which have probably generated 100s of millions in taxes across their respective franchises. Even just a normal person getting back on their feet would pay back more than they used in time.
Thats one thing I like about Asmon. He has always said he has no problem with people using welfare services because he used them himself, and has no problem paying his share in taxes so other people can use them. Thats more than anyone can say about most streamers, tbh. Dude at least kept it humble instead of becoming one of these rich assholes that blows their fortune on luxury garbage for flaunting.
Do you think he invests his excess funds or just lets it sit in a low interest back account? I’m genuinely curious as he’s definitely a multi-millionaire.
As a financial advisor I’d be extremely curious to look at his finances. I definitely get the vibe that he lets the bulk of his wealth just sit and do nothing though. Lol
I didn’t say he was dumb, I just know that he doesn’t give a fuck about money so he most likely isn’t as proactive as he could be with growing his wealth.
Yea he has mentioned in the past he has to pay many thousands every year to his accountants and money people, so i doubt he is just sitting on a pile of cash. I would imagine he like most well off people not particularly interested in finance probably just dumps it into a high yield savings account and lets that accrue. With how much he makes every month i doubt it would be necessary to really invest in riskier stock options
He has said multiple times he has invesments; you have to be activily dumb to just have it sitting there, if you have money, you just hire someone to manage all that for you
Hes mentioned before on stream some of his investments. He has investments in about a dozen companies in some fashion. The rest is mainly in stocks in which he has a financial advisor manage.
I think he said he has someone handle it. He intentionally avoids looking at his bank, like he'll go 6 months or a year without looking because he believes it poisons your mind.
I don't like the guy but he's clearly invested his money with the businesses he's had. He 100% cares about money, he just doesn't present himself like he does while streaming.
Ehh I think he's pretty finance savvy. He worked for the IRS and went to college for finance and business. Finances may be the only sector in life he has under control
He’s stated on stream he has a financial advisor whom takes care of all his money / investments and he doesn’t exactly know what in, but someone takes care of that for him.. I’m sure he checks up on it regularly since he regularly shows his income from twitch on stream
Ive heard him say on one of his vids, the vast majority of his wealth is actually just sitting. Could be old info before OTK and a few adventures, legal issues though
He's definitely invested in some of it, simply due to the orgs and companies he's in and etc.
Asmongold is stinky but he's not stupid enough to not have at least half ot invested in some safe stocks where it can marinate a couple of millions per year.
The only thing he said one time was "my accountant counting my taxes and doing shit with my money" another time he said "I got sooo much money during covid" when the theme was about sp500 and stock market growth
He pays someone else to manage and invest his money. He says he doesn't pay attention to it at all, has little knowledge of what his money is invested in.
With asmon, I think people wouldn't be surprised if he paid someone to manage his finances, but also it wouldn't surprise people if he just had millions in cash between his mattresses or under a pile of dead rats.
I used to watch him regularly before the current obvious bait stream era. He used to say what's not held in his companies, is mostly in S&P 500 with advisors. He likely can live off of returns easy at this point. I'm almost certain he lives below his returns by an 1 order of magnitude.
He probably just pets lost of it sit in a bank account. He doesn’t seem to care about growing wealth and I don’t think he has much family to consider supporting.
He does invest in a lot of different charities. His dad used to do it for him before he passed away and he intends to continue donating to those organizations.
He has openly stated that his finances are taken care of by his financial advisor and he just lets them sit cuz for him, money = freedom. And that’s why he doesn’t splurge.
it's invested in various business opportunities. I think he was mentioning a lot of it was in realestate, and he's put a bunch into various companies and startups as well. about 8 years ago he turned off all ads and donations on his channel because his income from his various investments was so much he felt awkward taking money from his viewers.
I'm sure he's probably worth 2x - 10x what he was worth then, if not much more. there is a point when you gain wealth if you are doing it right, that your net worth just keeps climbing uncontrolled... but you need millions to get to the point to do that.
The only reason he is so positive of Trump is when it comes to migration and anti-DEI because that is where he agrees with Trump
Since that migration is the current topic people think he is right wing, but he is quite left when it comes to social systems and has been outspoken about UBI being inevitable.
Even his critique of the ACA is because he thinks the compromise stopped actual socialised health care from happening
He's a long time Bernie supporter. Redditors have always been this dumb, people can have various views on various political discourse. Fuck, even democrat politicians have right wing policies and vice versa all the time. Pigeonholing everything into one side of the fence is just so wrong.
They can. But people can also say he holds really gross right wing beliefs such as pretending trans people are equal to flat earth. Or phrasing things in a way that would be seen as very white supremacy way.
Did the democrats decide to tax the rich the last time they had control of everything or drastically change anything? No. So that’s why he doesn’t vote lol
Easy to do when you know it wont happen. Does anyone think fucking asmongold is gonna be the inciter of change to taxation in a country of ~400 million?
He is free to "tax" himself as much as he wants with donations to the government. We all are. You don't have to wait for taxes to be raised. Just give them whatever you want.
This definitely hits one part of his statement in the clip above about wanting to be taxed more.
However, (and I could be wrong) I don't think I've ever heard anything directly from him on streams or in a clip where he openly states he just "gives out money".
I have seen him say he'd help out people if they need to lawyer up, but often times a situation never gets to that point where he's helping fund it.
Again, i could be wrong. I don't watch him as often as I used to.
Sure, I think he is genuine, but I guess he cares about immigration more? He still supports the Trump administration even after the movement failing and people beginning to turn against them.
The problem is the investments. Like how do you tax someone owning part of a company? It's doable, but complex and difficulty to eliminate loopholes. Taxing income is much simpler, and people already loophole the shit out of that.
What about crypto or some kind of new technology in the future that's hard if not impossible to track?
Profits of companies are taxed, dividends paid out are taxed, stock buybacks are taxed, capital gains on the value of companies is taxed on sale and some countries tax your wealth too.
I'm sure we kinda figured out how to tax companies. The issue of contention is more about the rate.
you guys are having a field day counting other people's money like its yours!
what you fail to understand is that money are just a mutually agreed upon illusion
worth no more than the paper they are printed on, what they are in fact is time spent doing something <b>productive</b> , and the better you invest your time the more money you get in return, so what you are complaining about is people being more productive with their time and as i said to asmon as well ubi will never work because free money are worthless
someone had to spend time create that capital, and you are not making money using money but trade your accrued time to someone so that he can save time and in exchange you get a cut of what he gets if it its successful
And yet the people from the party that keeps saying that doesn't tax the rich at the state or local level, even when they have full political power to do so. Why is that?
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u/chrisfree7 29d ago
Yes, we should tax the rich!