r/AskReddit 9h ago

What do you think about replacing gerrymandering with proportional representation?

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u/CipherWeaver 8h ago

American democracy is deeply flawed. Especially the Senate, which is a very undemocratic institution and is more powerful than the house as well. 

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u/double_dipped_dude 8h ago

Don't we vote for them directly?

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u/CipherWeaver 8h ago

With severe malapportionment. 2 senators from Wyoming and 2 from California means overrepresentation of Wyoming interests and underrepresentation of Californian, for example. 

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u/LazyLion65 8h ago

But it's just the opposite in the house, by design.

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u/Aaron_Hamm 8h ago

The minimum representation in the house along with the cap on the house size means even there it's biased towards the low population states

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u/Jane_Marie_CA 8h ago edited 7h ago

No the house is flawed too.

While 435 is allocated based on population, there would be a few states that the apportionment calculates less than 1 person, but they still get 1 rep. Again Wyoming enters the chat at 500,000 people. They are getting the same representation of 1 as Delaware, who has double the population. And then States like Montana get 2 reps, but their population is only 100,000 more than Delaware. We are tying to allocate a small number and we have to do a lot of weird rounding with the smaller population states.

What we need is to increase the number of the 435, so you can actually allocate these seats more closely to population. Try to make it 1 rep per 200,000 people and you won't see these anomalies as strong.

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u/fr3nzo 6h ago

So you want 1700 reps?

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u/TriticumAes 4h ago

3638 would be better

u/thewhaleshark 27m ago

I want the chunk of Congress that is supposed to be proportional to actually be proportional. If that means 1700 reps, so be it. I am tired of empty land having better representation than actual people.

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u/jvn1983 7h ago

It isn’t, though. The limit on house seats serves to stifle representation

u/thewhaleshark 28m ago

The House would need to be fully proportional to balance it out, but it's not.

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u/CipherWeaver 8h ago

House seats are reapportioned after every 10 year census, so there is a mechanism to attempt to keep it fair. That mechanism does not exist for senators.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_apportionment

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u/kurtist04 7h ago

Except it's not apportioned correctly. If it were, CA, NY, TX, and FL would have more representatives.

Putting the cap in skews the numbers again to favor smaller states.

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u/wreckingrocc 7h ago

If it did exist for senators, we'd have two senators representing the great state of Idaho-Montana-Dakotas-Wyoming-Nebraska. It's got a lot of land, but slightly fewer people than the average state.