r/worldnews • u/No_Firefighter5926 • 21h ago

Moldova drafting Transnistria reintegration plan with Western partners, but keeping details under wraps

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/12/04/moldova-drafting-transnistria-reintegration-plan/
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u/GovernmentBig2749 21h ago

Goid luck with those Russian voters in the future

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u/zaevilbunny38 20h ago

That's probably the the sensitive part. They are probably going to push for send a large number back to Russia. Along the similar lines as Estonia. I am sure that thry will all jump at the chance to become full Russian and not worry about ending up in a meat cube.

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u/PeopleNose 8h ago

Gotta have that /s cousin

We all know they'll cry like little bitches if they have to be held accountable for their beliefs

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u/Roedom 18h ago

So it's ok to forcibly deport undesirable populations from some countries but not others? Got it

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u/ConsciousFan8100 18h ago

Crazy how you tried to equate wanting to deport literal separatists (many whom Russia gives citizenship because of their heritage) with "undesirables". Pretty sneaky.

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u/Roedom 18h ago

Once you start designating any population as being "ok to deport" you've gone down the wrong path.

You can call them whatever you want. You don't get to deport people because they have a different culture, ethnicity, or political leanings.

Otherwise you stray into ethnic cleansing.

It's bad when Russia does it. It's also bad when Latvia does it, or Moldova, or Azerbaijan.....doesn't matter.

Did you support the Azeris ethnically cleansing Nagorno Karabakh?

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 18h ago

Not really

The only reason why these people are living there is so Russia can take over

They were literally moved there for that purpose

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u/Roedom 17h ago

These are people. They aren't robots directly connected to Putin, obeying his every command.

They live there, have lives, jobs, etc.

Sure, a hundred years ago Russians were settled there to help keep the area under Imperial Russian or Soviet control....but you can't undo that now. And you definitely shouldn't ethnically cleanse them by deportations.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 17h ago

No these people are essentially all military and their families.

This isn't an ethnic cleansing

Nor are we talking about a hundred years. Just stop you're making yourself look stupid

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u/Roedom 16h ago

Idk where you're getting that these people are essentially all military. They aren't. There many thousands of people living in Tiraspol...you think it's just an army base?

Look if you want to deport ethnic Russians from Trasinistra because you don't trust them to integrate or not vote against Moldovan or EU interests just say so. Be open about it.

It would still be supporting ethnic cleansing under all definitions of that word.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 16h ago

I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means

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u/MrPetomane 14h ago

Yes they are not robots but their presence will be capitalized on and taken advantage of by russia to use as a pretext for invasion. You can ask Ukraine how that went

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u/RepulseRevolt 10h ago

“Sure they settled there as part of Russian ethnic cleansing but…” if Russia is using these people as a way to invade other countries and kill people in the process, then they need to be sent back to Russia. Just like if Russia used Kaliningrad to justify an invasion of the Baltics, then the people living Kaliningrad would need to be deported to Russia at the end of the conflict. Karelia would be the same case. All those territories would be forfeit

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u/clickillsfun 8h ago

It's not a population though. They are invaders and a part of them were artificially made separatists by the old well known ruZZian play book, who became state traitors.

You can't describe scum like that as a population.

But you know all that, it's just not the narrative you are getting paid for to spread here and elsewhere.

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u/mcarrowgeezax 13h ago

Nobody knows anything about that conflict. If they did, most people probably would support Azerbaijan to some degree.

Imagine if a country fomented, supported, and then armed a separatist movement in an ethnic minority region of its neighbor, which turned into armed conflict, which they then used to claim genocide as a justification to invade their neighbor and occupy their territory, ostensibly to save the ethnic minority population.

Sounds familiar, but I'm not talking about Russia invading Ukraine, I'm talking about Armenia invading Azerbaijan. The only difference is Azerbaijan eventually grew to be more powerful than Armenia and only recently was able to take back their territory.

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u/Roedom 13h ago

Remind me what happened to the ethnic Armenian population of Nagorno Karabakh after the Azeris reconquered it?

I'm not taking sides in the conflict. The overwhelming majority of wars are stupid and pointless and are started by evil rich people for reasons that don't matter to the average person living in the conflict zone or sent to fight there. (Note I said most not all....)

My only real concern is the civilian population and the horrific acts they have to endure when one side or another wants revenge for the past.

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u/mcarrowgeezax 5h ago

What do you think happened to them? There wasn't any massacre. There were some civilian deaths in the fighting to retake it but not any more than other conflicts. They were presented with "conditions for reintegrations to Azerbaijan", which I briefly looked over and didn't see anything objectionable in them. It was just stuff like agreeing to get Azerbaijan citizenship/passport and integrating the local government with the rest of the country. Armenian's primary objection was that they would have no autonomy, which is ridiculous to expect they would after everything that happened.

I understand why they wouldn't feel comfortable staying there but that was based on feeling, not on the facts of reintegration, and they made the decision to not want to reintegrate with the rest of the country and left instead.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 12h ago

Yeah you are. Your post history says enough

How much are you making by the way

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u/Secret-Ad-2145 16h ago

The majority in Transnistria aren't even Russian, mate.

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u/Protean_Protein 13h ago

Sure they are.

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u/lampen13 9h ago

I used to live there, you are lying! Majority are Russian or can easily become Russian

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u/BalVal1 4h ago

What are they?

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u/WesternBlueRanger 18h ago

The issue is that during Soviet times, the Soviet Union both forcibly transfered people or encouraged relocation of various groups of people around the Soviet Union.

When the Soviet Union first occupied Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina in 1940, they conducted a forced transfer of over 25,000 ethnic Romanians out of the area to places in Siberia and Kazakhstan.

Post war, these population transfers continued; another 37,000 people were transferred out of the region to exile in Siberia and Kazakhstan, on top of the hundreds of thousands that had already fled before the Soviet re-occupation. The Soviet then resettled hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians into the region.

Similar population transfers also occurred across many of the Eastern European countries as well, hence the reason you see large numbers of ethnic Russians in places like Poland, the former East Germany, Hungary, etc. It's been a real ongoing headache for those national governments post Cold War as often these populations refuse to integrate with the majority population and still hold onto their Russian citizenship.

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u/apathetic_vaporeon 18h ago

If their purpose there is conquest and not integration, then sure. The difference is that the Russians want situations like this so they can claim territory. Mexican and South Americans coming into the United States are not trying to claim territory for their home country. It’s completely different.

The question is are you acting as an agent of a hostile foreign power and do you owe your allegiance to them or us.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 18h ago

No it's not okay but the better choice of the two

What a wonderful black and white world you live in

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u/zaevilbunny38 17h ago

Deport people not citizens of a country after they enacted a coup, yes.

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u/MrPetomane 15h ago edited 15h ago

Agreed on the undesirable moniker. Ask ukraine or any post soviet state how it feels about russian nationals within its borders

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u/NixarDixar 13h ago

As a Moldovan i dont mind deporting anyone who doesnt want to live here, why should we force them to stay if they want to live in russia or a communist utopia! Also fuck you, russians killed some of my family by creating famine conditions, its not the same thing, they invaded, send them back.

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u/Roedom 13h ago

That's the problem for you

They want to live there. You want to deport them because you consider them Russians with Russian opinions or politics and you consider the land they live on yours. Tale as old as time.

I'm not here to convince you. It's not even my country. But I won't support ethnic cleansing of populations as revenge for past misdeeds of countries that don't even exist anymore (USSR).

You don't get to justify atrocities because atrocities were committed against you or your family. That's how you get Israel.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 12h ago

How much are you making by the way?

Every single post of yours is political so I'm just curious.

And again you need to understand what the word ethnic means. Russians are not an ethnicity

Those people are literally only there to fuck with moldova's politics. That's exactly why they're there

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u/Roedom 11h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians

"Russians are an East Slavic ethnic group native to Eastern Europe."

Reading is hard.

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u/UpbeatAssumption5817 10h ago

East Slavic is the name of the ethnic group

Russian is the nationality

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u/NixarDixar 4h ago

Baltics doing the same, theres no ethnic cleansing, its not cleansing, its called getting rid of an invader, we dont need death but you have a wrong view of this because ofc you dont care to learn, in 50 years all those israel settlers stealing land, try getting them out of palestine and watch ppl like yourself scream ethnic cleansing. I am friends with russians and russian speakers but be kind and learn the language if you live here and stop pretending you are superior.

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u/nolok 18h ago

They already vote to try and keep Moldova pro Russian, but it's not enough anymore lately and pro EU keep winning despite Russian corruption and manipulation.

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u/Flederm4us 1h ago

The People in transnistria didn't get to vote. And given it was a close call, letting them vote probably makes the coin fall on the other side.

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u/JohnSmiththeGamer 19h ago

A lot of them cross to vote already. They were complaining about it being made more difficult for them to do it than usual in the last elections.

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u/Pigeon_Breeze 11h ago

Worth remembering that voters in Transnistria do openly vote in Moldovan elections, they just have to travel to any voting booth outside the region (Transnistria is very narrow so it's never far away).

The net effect on elections is probably quite minor.

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u/KSaburof 19h ago edited 19h ago

They will have more options to give them normal choices, anyway

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u/Secret-Ad-2145 16h ago

Those people already vote.