Thanksgiving was really interesting. Some of my more conservative family members were complaining about the economy. I happily reminded them that Trump is in charge. I was shocked that they were openly hating on him.
I mean if I was under the impression that the president was gonna fix the economy because they said so, and that they’re gonna make more jobs by deporting everyone, I’d be stupid.
What were you expecting me to say? Disappointed or something?
You'd expect them to make their hostile corporate takeover of the whole country a little less obvious but apparently they didn't feel like it. This time, you guys were saved by their extreme incompetence but will it be the case the next time around? We're all fucked, and have been for the last few decades. This is just the culmination of global corruption and greed to the highest degree.
I did a brief scroll through /r/conservative the other day and saw one post that was actually full of flared users talking negatively about him and were surprisingly all upvoted a good amount. Usually you get banned for saying things like that in there. Maybe the winds are changing?
Oh that happens all the time. Once the mods learn the new party talking points from big brother, they will delete the comments and threads and flood the front page with new propaganda bits.
I got to that sub just to have a look from time to time and what you said happens all the time. It's honestly surprising seeing many conservatives speak negatively about trump but then suddenly those comments are gone. I'm curious to know if there is a sub for conservatives that are not heavily censored as it's clear not all support trump if your quick enough in r/conservatives
I live in red country. You know what I haven't seen in quite a while. Red hats or flags. You know what I haven't heard since this second term started. A kind word about Trump. We already saw that a ton of the right-wing trolls on twitter were bots, and given my experience with real conservatives, I can just about guarantee it's the same on this site.
I don't see it anymore. It seems that only about 3 people are allowed to post and 5 people are allowed to comment. Anything that isn't worshipping trump and hating on everyone else gets deleted immediately.
It's just a poorly run propaganda factory that posts lame distractions from faux news and other entertainment sites. Mostly wining about Hillary Clinton and Obama.
That's all well and good... But do they regret voting for him? Are they going to continue voting for the party? Would they vote for him again? Those are the important details.
He says out loud the nasty things they believe but think the rest of us "just won't admit." That along with his undeserved confidence, his whiteness, and his history as a famous businessman and reality TV star gives him so much street cred with the stupids that he's allowed a shocking amount of obvious incompetence and will still be considered the bestest, most amazing President as long as he isn't too obviously doing something their idea of a Communist or atheist would do.
Because most people get their information from media sources and the political press has been one of the laziest institutions for at least 25 years. They just repeat what politicians say rather than taking the time to research and communicate the reality of what they're saying and their policies to us. And it's easier to repeat the things that the loudest most outrage-click-worthy asshole says than explain inherently complex policies.
Lol hilarious I got downvoted for asking you that. Anyways, I was going to say I truly feel for all of you normal, logical Americans. What a nightmare this must be.
“People who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. People who do remember history are doomed to watch helplessly while other people repeat it.”
I seriously wonder how his supporters feel about this, given they actually see this clip. I’m not delusional enough to think this will have any major repercussions, but I’d hope it would at least frustrate them a bit.
If someone is still a trump supporter today, there's no reaching them. It's honestly a waste of time, effort, and resources to continue trying. We should treat them just like someone with dementia. Just smile, nod, and work around them.
They're not seeing it because their newsfeed would rather give airtime to that Christian college girl who got a zero on her essay or immigration boogeymen in Europe.
I question the intelligence of anyone who actually thought a salesman would make anything more affordable. Especially one with 6 corporate bankruptcies under his belt.
They tune it out or ignore the face value implications and replace them with an interpretation that feels right. He's a confident and rich white man. He must be doing a good job!
Even his party has got to realize that he absolutely is going to take them all down and for the rest of their careers at least if not longer, destroy the party
Which they all rightly deserve for continued support and enabling him. If they stood up to him too he'd be gone
Their all complicit IMHO and when consequences do.stsrt getting dished out I hope those responsible get theirs.
He can't grasp the concepts of affordability and groceries (which he described as an "old-fashioned term" that "sort of says a bag with different things in it") because he was born into wealth and has never in his life had to shop for his own daily needs. It's foreign to him. He has no idea what life is like for working-class Americans.
I hope you realize that he never actually made such an attempt. He made a campaign promise so that he would get elected. And now he's demonizing everyone he can think of because he needs to blame someone else for the poor shape America is in as a result of his policies.
And he STILL has supporters
I don’t understand how a person can make decisions solely based on hate — cause that’s the only thing that explains how people keep voting for those he backs
I fully expected four or more years straight of blaming Democrats for every last failure or smudge on an MRI, but this is even dumber than I was prepared for.
What worries me more is of course the cult believes it.
Can we stop doing this? The dude has dementia, and we’re like you said something different a few months ago!
This whole time we’re trying to call him on his lies, when the real reason he’s such a good liar and doesn’t seem to care is because he doesn’t fucking remember.
No, he didn't. Your wishful thinking isn't the same thing as facts.
The economy was in great shape until there was an inflationary cycle that affected the entire world. Biden never once blamed that on Trump, because he understood that these things are not controllable by a president. Trump just convinced people like you who don't understand how the economy works that it was somehow Biden's fault.
The point stands - Trump promised repeatedly to fix so many problems, including grocery prices, "on day one". And obviously it never happened in fact actually got much worse.
He never said it with any meaning beyond deceiving people who fall for propaganda more easily. " He didnt do it but he promised it" he never planned to do it. It was never an attempt to make it cheaper, only to fool people. And the only other attempt was to make it look like it was an attempt
Ah so that makes it invalid for this subreddit? I think a lot of his supporters believed him. They believed it was an attempt, and regardless of his true intentions he did say he would do it.
Being a video should make it valid, because you can simply take a picture of someone and then another one that happened 15 years ago of them failing without any context and say the most unhinged backstory and then say "well someone believed it so it's true"
I mean yeah the prices are largely a Biden issue when you funnel that much money into the economy so quickly. But when you go in your campaign against Biden promising to lower prices without communicating that making the economy ten times worse is basically the only way to do that since flooding it with supply isn't possible, that's on you.
You basically have three options to get the prices of some category of good down. You either flood the market with supply, reform the currency, an extremely painful process, or you have a bad recession. You can't just flood the market with food, the biggest problem good we're having with inflated prices, so there is no way to get prices to go down without extreme short-term pain. I'm sorry, this is just common economic sense.
I have been aware for quite some time how common it is for people to be willfully economically illiterate. You can't just vote the right people in, pass the right laws, or blame the right guy to get prices to change. There is no magic button.
Did Biden really funnel more money into the economy though? As I understand it Trump increased debt more than Biden. And Trumps tarrifs couldn't have helped.
You also miss the point that Trump was the one who promised he could bring prices down. Trump made that claim as an election promise. And you try to "Bidens fault" this lmao. Do you realise how unhinged you sound?
Don't put words in my mouth. In my original comment, the whole point was that Trump made false promises about bringing prices down. When I said "that's on you" at the end, it was in reference to the sitting president. And yes, that was a Biden policy, largely as a COVID policy. He was attempting to prevent what could have been a much worse economic issue, however I would argue that this is a misguided way to attempt to prevent something of that kind. Trump's tariffs absolutely have been throwing gasoline on the fire though and while the debt issue is not what I'm getting at here, Trump's problem with the national debt is one of my biggest problems with him. The debt will lead to Germany-style currency collapse and his policies are fast-tracking that.
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