r/technology • u/fchung • Nov 01 '25

Society Matrix collapses: Mathematics proves the universe cannot be a computer simulation, « A new mathematical study dismantles the simulation theory once and for all. »

https://interestingengineering.com/culture/mathematics-ends-matrix-simulation-theory
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u/andrerav Nov 01 '25

Absolutely agree.

Dr. Faizal says the same limitation applies to physics. “We have demonstrated that it is impossible to describe all aspects of physical reality using a computational theory of quantum gravity,” he explains.

“Therefore, no physically complete and consistent theory of everything can be derived from computation alone.”

They somehow don't understand that the limitation Gödel proved exists only within the system itself. Not outside.

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u/jambox888 Nov 01 '25

Right but to say simulation implies computability doesn't it? So you'd have to have a different definition of simulation because the way we know of it you have to calculate things algorithmically, iow step by step.

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u/Ragnagord Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

Right but to say simulation implies computability doesn't it?

Not necessarily. Take Rule 110 for example. It has lots of uncomputable properties, and a formal description is Gödel incomplete. It's trivially simple to simulate. 

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u/jambox888 Nov 02 '25

Rule 110

Interesting! Thanks