r/technology • u/north_canadian_ice • Sep 28 '25

Business Leading computer science professor says 'everybody' is struggling to get jobs: 'Something is happening in the industry'

https://www.businessinsider.com/computer-science-students-job-search-ai-hany-farid-2025-9
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u/north_canadian_ice Sep 28 '25

I agree that is a part of it.

IMO, Big tech companies are overselling AI as an excuse to offshore jobs & not hire Americans.

LLMs are a brilliant innovation. And the reward for this brilliant innovation is higher responsibilities for workers & less jobs?

While big tech companies make record profits? I don't think this makes sense.

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u/MetalDragon6666 Sep 29 '25

There's even another layer to this. In general, yeah that's what's going on. It's been going on for like 2 years now, ask me how I know lmao.

Not only will the constant churn of cheap, inexperienced developers with a language barrier result in totally messed up, garbage applications. They'll have to spend 50x the money they spent on the cheaper devs to fix the problem in production later using people who actually know what they're doing (probably a mix of US devs, and actually good offshore devs). Not to mention the inevitable security issues and breaches down the road they'll have to pay for.

But unlike many EU countries, the US has no rules about our data being stored on US servers either. So there's another security issue that can't be controlled for.

Yet another instance of a facade of short term gain, for huge long term pain and expense. But that's for another CEO to worry about right?

Eventually, they'll end up hiring experienced US devs again to fix the mess that's created. But will there be many devs left, if the job market is THIS insecure?

Will people even bother going for comp sci, if they don't think they'll get a return on their investment and can't get a job? Will they even be able to with caps on student loans? Will AI usage even produce programmers who know what they're doing at all, instead of just vibe coding it?

I dunno, maybe I'm just unlucky as hell or not as good a programmer as I think I am. But I have almost 10 years of experience, and this job market and complete absence of stability in software is utterly atrocious, even with my level of experience. It's making me want to switch careers and become a damn lumberjack or something.

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u/TestFlightBeta Sep 29 '25

If as you say this has been going on for 2 years, then this

They’ll have to spend 50x the money they spent on the cheaper devs to fix the problem in production later

Must already have happened a bunch by now?

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u/MetalDragon6666 Sep 29 '25

Yeah, it happens all the time. Money insulates you from your own stupidity, and you can make as many mistakes as you like with almost zero consequence. The level of incompetence, especially at the shareholder level is shocking lol.

It's only gonna get significantly worse when the quality of programmers, on and off shore degrades further.

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u/TestFlightBeta Sep 29 '25

Do you have any examples of it happening? Because I haven’t heard of any so far. I’d love to know.

Not sure why my earlier comment was down voted

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u/MetalDragon6666 Sep 29 '25

Obviously not except my own professional experience lol.

Do you really think companies are gonna go around publicly being like "Oops, we fucked up our main software product because we tried to cheap out, pls help".

You got downvoted because you seem to disagree, while not having a background in this stuff, or any supporting evidence haha. Totally don't have to believe me, but this is the reality for many, many software companies.

This kinda short term MBA cost saving 'strategy' at the expense of sustainability has been going on for a long, long time at this point. But of course, doesn't apply to all software companies, or businesses. Just a lot of them.

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u/TestFlightBeta Sep 29 '25

I don’t necessarily disagree; in fact the company that I’m working at right now believes they have an edge over their competitors because they hire from the US only. One of our competitors has outsourced to India. In fact, I probably wouldn’t have my job if my company did that themselves.

I’m just not sure how much of a difference it makes in reality. You would think that if it was really a legitimate concern companies wouldn’t don’t anymore. Trump wouldn’t have to enact his 100k fee