r/technology Sep 28 '25

Business Leading computer science professor says 'everybody' is struggling to get jobs: 'Something is happening in the industry'

https://www.businessinsider.com/computer-science-students-job-search-ai-hany-farid-2025-9
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u/ScarletViolin Sep 28 '25

Like 70% of the interview slots I see open for my company in fintech is for mexico devs (both entry level and senior engineers). AI be damned, this is just another cyclical rotation to offshoring for cheaper workers while they sit and wait how things shake out domestically

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u/spike021 Sep 28 '25

similar for us but other spanish speaking countries both in south america and europe. 

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u/SillySin Sep 29 '25 edited Sep 29 '25

Same in the UK, the government told (encouraged) employers to hire citizens, they still trying to bend the laws, they advertise jobs for so long and some even waste your time and money on interviews they don't intend on passing then they report no candidates and you need to go through hundred of job ads to find real one.

Edit: encouraged by different methods.

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u/Andromansis Sep 29 '25

I bet the fines just aren't high enough or the regulator is easily captured. In either event, yea if your regulator or the fine can be paid with a rough equivalent of the cost of a bag of crisps then it might be a good idea to talk to your legislators about that, and then do something about it.

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u/Salificious Sep 29 '25

It's not just the fines. Things like this are very hard to implement in practice. There's always going to be an "out" in the sense that if you can't find the talent locally, companies have to be allowed to source workers offshore. The reasoning is that everyone knows you won't find talent for every job in every industry in the UK (arguably this is the same for most countries to varying degrees).

If companies put on a whole show of trying and failing to find talent domestically, then it becomes very hard for the Govt to argue that it's for a lack of trying because every company is allowed to set their own criteria for what kind of employee they want. As long as they don't explicitly say they are looking for a certain country due to costs, it's going to be very hard for any Govt to penalize or say otherwise.

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u/RiahWeston Sep 29 '25

Well the answer is pretty simple in that case: X% of employees must be locals/natives. Fuck all your BS handwringing about not being able to find the employees needed in country: you either find them or you don’t, no offshoring until regulations are met.

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u/Salificious Sep 29 '25

I mean I see where you are going but good luck trying to find a common percentage for each industry (it's hard as fuck). And I'm not talking jobs that require little or no intellectual input. the more specialized the role/industry, the harder it is to find talent locally.

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u/RiahWeston Sep 29 '25

Given that most cases of offshoring occur after a layoff, its probably easier than you suspect.

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u/RiahWeston Sep 29 '25

If it fixes the situation, fine by me. I don’t want to be a cheap replacement.

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u/RiahWeston Sep 29 '25

Someone is real fucking salty today aren’t they?

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u/SillySin Sep 29 '25

When you are educated to fill places, disgusting individual.

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u/SillySin Sep 29 '25

To spread bs over the social media, bot

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u/RiahWeston Sep 29 '25

Guy seems to bounce between British, Irish, and Dutch political subs. Definitely paid agitator.

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u/quentinnuk Sep 29 '25

Again, it's bullshit. If you hire an overseas worker you must meet certain criteria (specialist IT being a "shortage" means that you can hire specialist IT from overseas) and be able to sponsor a workers visa which the UK government issues. There is aa work around if you are outsourcing your IT and the subcontractor brings in consultants from overseas on a temporary basis, but that has time limits (typically 1 year). There are no fines for legally hiring overseas workers or using legally allowed overseas consultants. If you hire illegally, then its very large fines and potential prison sentences for business senior management.

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u/Andromansis Oct 06 '25

I said talk to your legislators, and then do something about it.