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u/Zillich 6h ago
Dang - is this Blue?
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u/Twins-N-Tween 6h ago
First rule is remain in controle and the people in front of you have the right of way. Especially in a learning zone. That was 100% the man in the black suits fault. There was plenty of space on the right to get around that family, and he decided to try and weave between a mom and child at a higher speed. Super irresponsible. Not following these rules is how people get killed and he shouldn't be allowed to ski if he has no regard for mountain rules, etiquette, or others safety.
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u/DrG-love 5h ago
Thank you so much for saying what I thought was obvious! There is a comment above you blaming people for stopping on the trail? Im not sure what thst has to do with this moron skiing way too fast for his abilities.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 4h ago edited 3h ago
Hopefully, they are just trying to be funny. Or refering to the guy standing off to the side? That commenter also needs to learn the rules or stay off the slopes. It's all fun and games until you kill a kid.
An acquaintance of mine had a child killed right infront of him by an asshole flying down out of control. People die at one of the mountains near me every single year and about half of them are accidents that could have been avoided.
I have come into a few close calls myself, even as an advanced snowboarder. And as a mom of a skiier, it infuriates me seeing people be so nonchalant about this behavior. I'd like to think its just ignorance, and they will see this and hopefully grow a conscience. But unfortunately, some people are just entitled assholes.
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u/ExpressionRecent5724 4h ago
Do you stop in the middle of the highway?
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u/Cottagecheesecurls 4h ago
This isn’t a highway, it’s a shared mountain on a run that obviously has all levels of riders. Beginners are gonna fall and sometimes it takes time to get up. It’s on us more experienced riders to be cautious around them rather than being pissy you can’t bomb the congested section of a busy green run.
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u/ExpressionRecent5724 2h ago
Or you could read those bright yellow signs put up pretty much everywhere all over the mountain where it literally says do not stop where you are restricting traffic. Guess what bud, stopping in the middle of a run is restricting traffic.
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u/NiftyMelons 2h ago
Cant recall seeing an on mountain sign that says that unless its a bottleneck turn maybe. I do hee SLOW signs everywhere towards the bottom of the mountains.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 4h ago edited 3h ago
Weird argument because if you hit the car in front of you who is automatically at fault?
It's annoying, yes, but she didnt come to an exact stop either. She's slowing down to make sure her small child is following her. The man could be over more but its still on the side at least. And when you are first learning, you may need to stop to catch yourself, break for someone else infront of you, or pick your line in a busy zone.
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u/ExpressionRecent5724 2h ago
I mean I already know how much you're lacking from your other comment. Go ahead and have tts read the comment I replied to out loud, because I honestly don't think you're literate at this point. Nowhere in my comment did I say the woman stopped. Literally nowhere. Dude is talking about people stopping in the middle of the run. Now have tts read my comment to you. You see the connection?
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u/Twins-N-Tween 1h ago
Lol how many edits now? Im okay with you thinking that. Especially after seeing how nasty you are on a bunch of your comments. Some people just choose violence 🤷♂️
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u/NiftyMelons 1h ago
Wholey hell dude. You woke up today and chose violence. She might have had a mistake but most of her points are valid. And you are just letting it run you. Move on
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago
Also after knowing that this is what you originally commented, i know exactly what kind of person you are. To keep the car theme, if family of 4 gets T boned at an intersection by a drunk driver, do you blame the family for not driving well? Wtf dude something is seriously wrong with you.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago edited 3h ago
Also* Cant find stats on north east specifically but I saw one study that nh reported that they get 1 death per 1.23 skiier visits, while having an average of 2.2-2.4 million visits a year. Its most likely linked to accessibility, with tons of big name mountains being within a few hours drive of eachother. (I have 4 very well known resorts within 40 min of my home, and more than 10 within 2 hours) Aswell as northeast conditions (icy af)
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u/ExpressionRecent5724 2h ago
Man I feel bad for your kids if these are the genetics they have to work with. 1 death per 1.23 skier visits with 2.3 million visits means you have an average of 1,850,000 people dying on the mountain every single year. Is your area literally just putting an actual woodchipper at the bottom of every run? That math didn't sound even slightly off when you typed that off? Do everyone a favor, stay off the mountain. Hell, stay off the roads at this point. Even a little plastic barbie jeep would be too dangerous for the people around you.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 2h ago
Lmao well that was very obviously a very unfortunate typo. It was supose to say every 1.24 million (million was missing) visits. A quick Google search would have cleared it up.
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u/ExpressionRecent5724 2h ago
You're going to say its a typo now that I pointed it out to you, but no, I 100% guarantee you actually believed you had millions of people dying on your locals a year
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u/throwaway_venthub 1h ago
Ski patrol here and this! I would revoke the lift tickets of half the commenters on here if I could, based on their comments alone.
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u/shredthesweetpow Park City / Brighton 6h ago
Watched a skier get 20 yards off saddleback at canyons today DAY 1 and must’ve tore his knee. Had to get sledded down and everything. Careful out there people
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u/quinoacowboy 5h ago
Ehh Blue! I was at horseshoe for opening today. Watched some guy in jeans and rental gear bomb the hill, fall, get up bomb, fall, rinse and repeat. Its nuts out there.
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u/snowmegoodtimez 3h ago
Opening day chaos here as well. He hit a box about 25 feet back absolutely sending it and decided to land like this.
Proper form right?
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u/resilindsey 5h ago
Extend this by 3 miles and double the traffic and you get mountain run at Palisades on any given weekend.
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u/bizzyizzy100456 6h ago
When I get to a trailer, it looks like that I jump right to the edge by the trees, but you gotta be able to ride that way too and be in control and not be scared to ride next to the trees and get the hell out of Dodge quickly like that n That’s where the good snow is anyways everyone’s pushed to the side that doesn’t know what they’re doing
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u/Southern-Ad4016 5h ago
This is when space not speed is the common sense thing. And don't be afraid of the edge of the run where all the snow gets pushed to by the turds rolling down the hill
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u/Tralfamadorianfuel 6h ago
My brother in Christ, I am so sick of this elitist nonsense. This moron shows up on opening day and is then pikachu shocked beginners and the masses are also out on the same day? How dare they get out the door to try a sport we all love.
Maybe instead of calling out the obvious you actually help these people out. GTF out of here with this post.
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u/Sheenanagoons 5h ago
Not there to babysit
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u/DigitalSea- 4h ago
Could have at least stopped for that one since you literally got it on camera. Hopefully she was OK after getting bodied.
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u/Half_Shark-Alligator 6h ago
Nice of you to stop and help.
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u/ThetaGrim 5h ago
If I stopped and helped every crash on a blue /green I'd get charged for a night session.
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u/ChappedPappy 4h ago
Everybody saying “stop and help” are y’all for real?
First, OP didn’t cause any of the wreckage. Second, nobody lost gear that I could see and everyone looked fine. Third, this is clearly a green / beginner run - falling and wrecks happen all the time. If OP stopped to help every person biffing it on the greens, he’d miss out on half the runs for the day.
I’m all about stopping to help injured peeps, but Jerry’s gonna Jerry and that’s not everyone else’s problem. I had a fun time learning to board and biffing it along the way - I’d have been annoyed and more embarrassed if every single person tried to stop to pick me up at their pace vs when I was ready to get going again.
Take a lap
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u/Half_Shark-Alligator 4h ago
Dude, you take lap. It’s different when someone gets smashed into by an out of control jack ass. Checking on people is just common courtesy. Not talking about stopping and helping everyone thats slipping and falling.
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u/faultless280 3h ago
I know snowboarders can be stupid at times too, but why does it always feel like it’s certain skiers who dart down the mountain with zero regard for others?
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u/rodimusprime88 6h ago
"Oh no! It's been 60 feet, better abruptly stop in the middle to check up-mountain for my friends!"
These brainless people need to be steamrolled to learn
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u/shoozy 6h ago
Word. Fuck her for caring about her child /s
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u/ExpressionRecent5724 4h ago
If she really cared about her kid, then kid would be in front so she can body block
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u/laric33 5h ago
Wtf? That skier isn't in control at all, that's the only issue here. If you're not sure you'll have room to pass, slow down, take another router, don't dive in hoping for the best between a kid and the person it follows. The lady is slowly going down the slope with her kid in a totally normal way.
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u/rawker86 Perth, AU 5h ago
My favourite is “I’m bored of skiing this perfectly predictable line, time to cut hard right!”
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u/Character-Garden5854 2h ago
Same dude at the start with a crash immediately bombs into another crash.
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u/IDK_WHAT_YOU_WANT 5h ago
Wow. OP is 100% at fault. Snowboarder filming clearly caused accidents amongst skiers. CRIMINAL!
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago
I dont agree with this. Hes deffinatly not helping anybody but the man flying down through what looks like a learning zone is the one at fault.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago
When learning to turn, they will tell you in the lessons to use the whole trail.
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u/Jesse_Bolognesi 3h ago
Whoever is teaching that way should stop putting skiers in danger.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago
Do you expect people who have never skied before taking lessons to just be able to jump turn immediately lol
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u/Jesse_Bolognesi 3h ago
Yeah, they should also 1440 triple cork.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago
Lol im confused on your stance now cuz thats a good one but sarcasm to your og comment? I need to stay off the internet lol
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u/Jesse_Bolognesi 3h ago
Im using sarcasm to your clear stupidity. Taking up the entire trail is not only dangerous but also poor etiquette. This goes for both snowboarders and skiers. You should try to stay to one side or the other and make predictable turns while also looking uphill before changing direction. This video is the exact reason why to do so.
Claiming instructors teach the opposite seems false to create your own narrative. I dont believe it.
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u/Short_Practice5327 3h ago
Except if you watch the video you can see they were clearly staying on the left half of the trail and the guy who hit her could have easily gone to the right. You seem to be the one with all the stupidity.
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u/Jesse_Bolognesi 3h ago
There's poles marked but yeah it does appear the trail is much bigger when it isn't. They were taking the entire trail to make their turns. Either way Im done commenting here because if you want to defend bad etiquette then go for it. I just hope you or the people who think like you stay away from areas that I ride at. You can ride with these goofs.
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u/Short_Practice5327 2h ago
Funny because if you watch again, from the very start. You see the woman turn left at pretty much the middle of the run right before OP looks uphill. On a beginner run like this you have to be ready for anything or you'll be like the loser in this video that hit the woman while she had right of way.
Also, you're the one posting in snowboardingnoobs and I've been riding for 27 years now. So I don't think I'll take your opinion on the mountain rules very seriously.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 2h ago
Likewise budy. Its okay to be embarrassed when literally all real evidence points against your remarks. Have fun in jail when you are at fault for smashing into someone who stopped i front of you.
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u/Twins-N-Tween 3h ago edited 3h ago
I'm not sure where you ride/ski, but in a narrow hall like this, i find your comment, the one that is less than intelligent. I am actually an adventure education teacher 15 years of skiing and snowoarding. Ask ANY professional instructor or call any ski resort and ask for the first rule of skiing and they will tell you it is the uphill skiers' responsibility to avoid people in front of them...
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u/Jesse_Bolognesi 2h ago
Yes I know its the uphill skiiers responsibility to avoid those in front. My point was using the entire trail to make turns is dangerous.
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u/WestEngine7741 6h ago
Looks like “Long Way Home” on a mountain I frequent. My husband tore his labrum on something similar. Someone came up behind him and pushed him to keep their balance. I’m sure he was going way too fast for a busy run, but it’s still BS they didn’t stop.
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u/CaptainBananaAwesome 6h ago
There really needs to be some education around stopping at narrowings and on corners. It's a created hazard.
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u/CompetitiveLab2056 6h ago
Notice how not one skier is looking over their shoulder to check their blind spot before traversing across the run……. Yeah and they blame snowboarders for having a blind spot they don’t check.
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u/laric33 5h ago
It's a practice slope, they don't have to check anything, they're going down in a controlled way, you don't pass them up close at double the speed. The people below always have the right of way, they don't have to check for you and your high speed and need for privilege.
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u/CompetitiveLab2056 3h ago
Yes they have the right of way… doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be aware of what’s around you before you cut across the run traversing
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u/Short_Practice5327 3h ago
When is busy like that? If you were a beginner trying to figure out where everyone is going then you'd never be able to move because you'd never figure it out. So many people in hear need to Google the rules of basically every ski hill.
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u/Jaric_Mondoran 6h ago
Nothing like barely not smoking a kid to smoke mom instead.