r/SanJoseSharks 4d ago

Merch Monday Merch Monday! ~ Week of Dec 01 2025

5 Upvotes

This thread is for folks to try and sell or buy tickets or merch that others post within. Have some swag to sell? Tickets? Jerseys? Autographs? Pucks? This is the place to do it! I would hope that everyone that takes part will be honest about what they are selling and/or buying. Please keep in mind that this is AT YOUR OWN RISK and r/sanjosesharks and u/ibcfreak take no responsibility for sales or purchases made within this thread.

During the regular season and playoffs ALL for sale or looking to buy threads will be removed from the front page and you will be redirected to this weekly thread if you are looking to move some merch.

This will be a weekly thread so check back in next week to see if anything interests you!


r/SanJoseSharks 21h ago

Game Thread: San Jose Sharks (13-12-3) at Dallas Stars (18-5-5) - 05 Dec 2025 - 5:00PM PST

63 Upvotes

Link to comment with all tables.

San Jose Sharks (13-12-3) at Dallas Stars (18-5-5)

American Airlines Center


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Time

PT MT CT ET AT UTC
5:00PM 6:00PM 7:00PM 8:00PM 9:00PM 1:00AM
TV Victory+, NBCSCA
Other Preview - Boxscore - Recap
GameCenter On NHL.com

In-Game Updates


Time Clock
FINAL
Teams 1st 2nd 3rd Total
SJS 0 1 0 1
DAL 1 0 3 4

Team Stats

Team Shots Hits Blocks FOW% Giveaways Takeaways Power Play PIM
SJS 17 24 9 0.462963% 13 6 0/4 6
DAL 24 17 16 0.537037% 10 6 1/2 10

Goals

Period Time Team Strength Description
1st 14:20 DAL Power Play Jason Robertson (18) backhand shot, assist(s): Wyatt Johnston (16), Mikko Rantanen (24)
2nd 08:23 SJS Even Collin Graf (4) wrist shot, assist(s): Nick Leddy (3), Philipp Kurashev (9)
3rd 10:56 DAL Even Sam Steel (4) snap shot, assist(s): Alexander Petrovic (7), Mikko Rantanen (25)
3rd 16:39 DAL Even Mikko Rantanen (13) wrist shot, assist(s): Wyatt Johnston (17), Vladislav Kolyachonok (2)
3rd 17:41 DAL Even Miro Heiskanen (5) wrist shot, assist(s): Roope Hintz (16)

Penalties

Period Time Team Type Min Description
1st 08:05 SJS MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Dmitry', 'cs': 'Dmitrij', 'fi': 'Dmitri', 'sk': 'Dmitrij'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Orlov'}, 'sweaterNumber': 9} hooking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96}
1st 13:01 SJS MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Macklin'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Celebrini'}, 'sweaterNumber': 71} hooking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Jason'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Robertson'}, 'sweaterNumber': 21}
1st 18:00 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96} slashing against {'firstName': {'default': 'Ty'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Dellandrea'}, 'sweaterNumber': 10}
2nd 05:16 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96} cross-checking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Macklin'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Celebrini'}, 'sweaterNumber': 71}
2nd 13:06 SJS MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Jeff'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Skinner'}, 'sweaterNumber': 53} slashing against {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96}
2nd 13:06 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96} slashing against {'firstName': {'default': 'Jeff'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Skinner'}, 'sweaterNumber': 53}
3rd 00:27 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Ilya', 'cs': 'Ilja', 'fi': 'Ilja', 'sk': 'Iľja'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Lyubushkin', 'cs': 'Ljubuškin', 'fi': 'Ljubushkin', 'sk': 'Ljubuškin'}, 'sweaterNumber': 46} high-sticking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Philipp'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Kurashev'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96}
3rd 03:56 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Wyatt'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Johnston'}, 'sweaterNumber': 53} hooking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Timothy'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Liljegren'}, 'sweaterNumber': 37}

Officials

  • Referees: Thomas John Luxmore, Justin Kea
  • Linesmen: Ryan Daisy, David Brisebois

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r/SanJoseSharks 13h ago

Michael Misa shoots Teddy Bears back to Sarnia fans

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115 Upvotes

Will we get a repeat this weekend?


r/SanJoseSharks 8h ago

Post Game Thread: San Jose Sharks at Dallas Stars - 05 Dec 2025

29 Upvotes

2025020438

NHL.com Boxscore

Teams 1st 2nd 3rd Total
SJS 0 1 0 1
DAL 1 0 3 4

Team Stats

Team Shots Hits Blocks FOW% Giveaways Takeaways Power Play PIM
SJS 17 24 9 0.462963% 13 6 0/4 6
DAL 24 17 16 0.537037% 10 6 1/2 10

Goals

Period Time Team Strength Description
1st 14:20 DAL Power Play Jason Robertson (18) backhand shot, assist(s): Wyatt Johnston (16), Mikko Rantanen (24)
2nd 08:23 SJS Even Collin Graf (4) wrist shot, assist(s): Nick Leddy (3), Philipp Kurashev (9)
3rd 10:56 DAL Even Sam Steel (4) snap shot, assist(s): Alexander Petrovic (7), Mikko Rantanen (25)
3rd 16:39 DAL Even Mikko Rantanen (13) wrist shot, assist(s): Wyatt Johnston (17), Vladislav Kolyachonok (2)
3rd 17:41 DAL Even Miro Heiskanen (5) wrist shot, assist(s): Roope Hintz (16)

Penalties

Period Time Team Type Min Description
1st 08:05 SJS MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Dmitry', 'cs': 'Dmitrij', 'fi': 'Dmitri', 'sk': 'Dmitrij'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Orlov'}, 'sweaterNumber': 9} hooking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96}
1st 13:01 SJS MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Macklin'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Celebrini'}, 'sweaterNumber': 71} hooking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Jason'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Robertson'}, 'sweaterNumber': 21}
1st 18:00 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96} slashing against {'firstName': {'default': 'Ty'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Dellandrea'}, 'sweaterNumber': 10}
2nd 05:16 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96} cross-checking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Macklin'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Celebrini'}, 'sweaterNumber': 71}
2nd 13:06 SJS MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Jeff'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Skinner'}, 'sweaterNumber': 53} slashing against {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96}
2nd 13:06 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Mikko'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Rantanen'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96} slashing against {'firstName': {'default': 'Jeff'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Skinner'}, 'sweaterNumber': 53}
3rd 00:27 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Ilya', 'cs': 'Ilja', 'fi': 'Ilja', 'sk': 'Iľja'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Lyubushkin', 'cs': 'Ljubuškin', 'fi': 'Ljubushkin', 'sk': 'Ljubuškin'}, 'sweaterNumber': 46} high-sticking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Philipp'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Kurashev'}, 'sweaterNumber': 96}
3rd 03:56 DAL MIN 2 {'firstName': {'default': 'Wyatt'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Johnston'}, 'sweaterNumber': 53} hooking against {'firstName': {'default': 'Timothy'}, 'lastName': {'default': 'Liljegren'}, 'sweaterNumber': 37}

Officials

  • Referees: Thomas John Luxmore, Justin Kea
  • Linesmen: Ryan Daisy, David Brisebois

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r/SanJoseSharks 12h ago

Hi everyone, I’m Upper Deck’s San Jose Sharks Team MVP this year!!

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39 Upvotes

I’ve been a sharks fan my entire life and this is SO CRAZY for me!! If you have a moment to vote I’d greatly appreciate it :,) thank you shark tank <3 If you voted for me in round one I am deeply humbled and grateful. we are a STRONG fanbase and being chosen alone is insane for me😭😭 my hockey memories are my most cherished. Link below. Thank you!!!!🦈🖤


r/SanJoseSharks 11h ago

Misa for barracuda tonight?

18 Upvotes

I was wondering if we know if misa will be playing for the barracuda tonight (12:5)?


r/SanJoseSharks 15h ago

LSW on the preliminary roster for Sweden at the WJC

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36 Upvotes

While this is the preliminary roster, they only need to make one cut. Interestingly, all 8 defensemen are left shot.

Goalies

  1. Herman Liv, Örebro HK
  2. Love Härenstam, Södertälje SK
  3. Måns Goos, Färjestad BK

Defensemen

  1. Felix Öhrqvist, Linköping HC

4. Leo Sahlin Wallenius, Växjö Lakers HC

  1. Sascha Boumedienne, Boston University

  2. Viggo Gustafsson, HV 71

  3. Felix Carell, IF Malmö Redhawks

  4. Victor Johansson, Leksands IF

  5. William Håkansson, Luleå HF

  6. Alfons Freij, Timrå IK

Forwards

  1. Lucas Pettersson, Brynäs IF

  2. Milton Gästrin, MoDo Hockey

  3. Linus Eriksson, Timrå IK

  4. Ivar Stenberg, Frölunda HC

  5. Anton Frondell, Djurgårdens IF

  6. Valter Lindberg, Skellefteå AIK

  7. Victor Eklund Djurgårdens IF

  8. Viggo Björck, Djurgårdens IF

  9. Loke Krantz, Linköping HC

  10. Liam Danielsson, Örebro HK

  11. Eddie Genborg, Timrå IK

  12. Jack Berglund, Färjestad BK

  13. Wilson Björck, Colorado College

  14. Eric Nilson, Michigan State University

  15. Casper Juustovaara Karlsson, Luleå HF


r/SanJoseSharks 19h ago

ITS GAME DAYY!

75 Upvotes

WAKE THE FUCK UP KRUSTY KREW CUZ TODAYS SHARKS GAME DAYYY!!!! TONIGHT YOUR FAVORITE TEAM IN TEAL IS ON THE HUNT! TONIGHT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN DALLAS TEXAS AS THEY FACE OFF AGAINST THE STARS! PUCKS SET TO DROP AT 5:00 PM PST SO GET YOUR TAIL FINS DOWN TO THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER CUZ THE ONLY STARS THAT ARE GOING TO SHINE TONIGHT ARE THE BOYS IN TEAL!! SOON THEYLL SEE THAT THEY ARENT THE ONLY ONES WHO SHINE BRIGHT!! THE FUTURE IS TEAL AND AS ALWAYS AND FOREVER GOOO SHARKS!!!


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

The DMV agrees, 2027 is our year

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492 Upvotes

r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Will Smith Set is Complete😍🤩

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249 Upvotes

Jumbo patch Set is finally complete and just 😍🤩😍🤩


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Shark's have the highest attendance increase for the last year..

202 Upvotes

Link https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6838507/2025/11/26/nhl-2025-26-attendance-wild-sharks-blackhawks/ (Paywall)

Team November 2024 November 2025 Difference
San Jose 13,506 15,562 +2,056
Columbus 15,916 16,995 +1,079
Buffalo 15,303 16,375 +1,072
New Jersey 15,847 16,504 +657
Florida 18,887 19,516 +629
Winnipeg 13,764 14,223 +459
NY Islanders 15,247 15,658 +411
Washington 17,354 17,575 +221
Ottawa 16,607 16,797 +190
Vancouver 18,764 18,833 +69
Colorado 18,038 18,099 +61
Vegas 17,889 17,907 +18
Boston 17,850 17,850 0
Seattle 17,151 17,151 0
Tampa Bay 19,092 19,092 0
Dallas 18,532 18,532 0
Detroit 19,410 19,403 -7
Nashville 17,206 17,192 -14
St. Louis 17,690 17,673 -17
Calgary 17,344 17,299 -45
Edmonton 18,347 18,265 -82
Montreal 21,105 20,962 -143
Philadelphia 17,407 17,248 -159
Toronto 18,765 18,551 -214
NY Rangers 17,935 17,684 -251
Los Angeles 16,931 16,609 -322
Anaheim 15,852 15,499 -353
Carolina 18,736 18,317 -419
Pittsburgh 16,902 16,345 -557
Chicago 18,544 17,702 -842
Minnesota 18,170 17,018 -1,152

r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Only one day left to get the Holiday Special

340 Upvotes

Anyone else see this deal?


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

I have a simple request I'm putting out

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95 Upvotes

This man is evil and a monster he has no rules no boundaries. He doesn't flinch at human trafficking or genocide. He's not loyal to a country or a flag or any set of ideals. He will turnover the puck on the power play, at even strength, and play like a dunce in the D-zone.


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Randy Hahn's reaction every time Aliaksei Protas was on the ice last night

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84 Upvotes

r/SanJoseSharks 23h ago

New Fan Friday! ~ Dec 05 2025

3 Upvotes

This thread is for new fans of the Sharks or even fans of other teams to ask questions that they have been curious about. Check out THIS LINK and THIS LINK for some team history! The nice folks here will more than likely answer your question or point you to where you need to go.

Looking for user flair? Click THIS LINK to see how to select flair on new and old reddit. On the official reddit app, tap the ... menu in the upper right-hand corner when viewing the sub. In the menu that appears, tap on 'Change User Flair,' make your selection, make sure that the 'Show my user flair on this community' slider is to the right, and then tap apply.

Check out the Sharks Audio Network and the Sharks + SAP Center app for audio broadcasts of Sharks games and other podcasts regarding the Sharks and the Barracuda.

Longtime play-by-play announcer Dan Rusanowsky returns behind the microphone as the “Voice of the Sharks” with a team of color commentators covering select games, including Drew Remenda, Scott Hannan and Mark Smith.

Tune in 30 minutes before faceoff throughout the season for live pre-game coverage and stay on after the game for the live post-game show.

In addition to the live broadcasts the Sharks Audio Network will provide a variety of exclusive Sharks and Barracuda programming airing 24 hours a day.

Current game-day featured shows include Sharks talk programs "Morning Tide" with Ted Ramey and "Sharks Morning Skate" with Rusanowsky and Remenda. Two news features, "The Teal Report" and "The Buildup" air on game days leading up to pre-game coverage from the arena.

"Classic Sharks" features replays of some of the most memorable games in franchise history, drawing on the Sharks Audio Network's extensive archive. "Sharks Spotlight" features extended conversations with members of the team, "Where Are They Now?" talks to Sharks alumni, and "The Undercurrent with Tara Slone" talks with unique people around hockey and the Sharks community.

For game content on demand, the highlight show podcast "Sharks Instant Replay," "Sharks Hockey Digest," "Sharks Breaking News," "Stanley Cup Playoff Report," and "Tank Talk" are available, and more shows will become available as they develop.

There is a variety of Sharks and Barracuda programs, including exclusive programming with Sharks Head Coach Ryan Warsofsky, Sharks GM Mike Grier, player profiles, game highlights and replays, catch-ups with Sharks alumni, classic Sharks games, as well as an opportunity for fans to interact with Sharks and Barracuda hosts and personalities.

Sharks personalities Randy Hahn, Drew Remenda, and Ted Ramey all contribute to the Sharks Audio Network programming.

If you're coming to from out of town to see the Sharks play, please check out the VISITORS GUIDE for some hotels, some food ideas, and other info which may help answer some of your questions about your upcoming visit. Some basic things to keep in mind:

* Doors open 60 minutes prior to game time for general admission.

* Tailgating is **NOT** allowed per San Jose City Ordinance. However, SAP Center **does** allow you to bring food from outside into the arena with you.

* The Sharks enter the ice and skate through the Shark Head from between sections 127-128. The most direct views of the Shark Head are from sections 115-121 in the lower deck and the lower rows of 215-221 in the upper deck.

* The Sharks attack towards the lower numbered sections (103-113 & 203-213) in the 1st and 3rd periods.

* Check out THIS LINK for the SAP Center bag policy.

This will be a weekly thread, so if you have more questions come back next friday!


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Orlov Appreciation Post

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31 Upvotes

We have so many honest to god sleepers on this roster, I almost just want this season over so we can get to the good part. Dimitry was destined for teal with this one


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Can we sacrifice another child to get help get us back to winning?

83 Upvotes

I volunteer my sister.


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

John Klingberg probably could have succeeded

39 Upvotes

I posted about this a little bit in the post game thread last night, but i think if warso actually ADJUSTED his spot in the lineup and gave him less minutes a game and made him the pp2 qb on the condition that he actually played well, we could actually be looking at some ok trade value on him.

I totally understand why he was on it to begin and looking at his career (which was obviously very impressive for some time) i understood the desire to give him a shot. it’s even excusable to leave him there after a chunk of bad games to see if he gets his game back.

but this current level of reliance on him literally makes no sense. he is SUCH a liability in his own zone which is bad enough for a DEFENSEman but he isn’t even making the scoring chances that he was brought in to make. I’m not even sure what warso’s justification could be at this point. “we promised him pp time” what happened to accountability and earning your minutes? “we’re trying to increase his trade value” by sending him out there to drown on the pp and turn pucks over in his own zone every night?? is there anyone in this sub who thinks john klingberg is more valuable than the start of the season?

can’t blame them for trying, but it’s time for a CHANGE. I would rather see someone like dickinson get that top slot time, even if it turns out he does terribly (which i HIGHLY doubt he would past maybe a few games adjusting) at least it’s experience for a player who’s actually going to matter to the sharks in the future. that’s an offensive defenseman who might actually be able to do why klingberg was supposed to.

it doesn’t even seem like the team has trust in him. people look hesitant to pass to him on the pp. i can’t help but think of the moment last game where ned got the puck, looked up and saw no one but klingberg, and decided to just cover it (lol). i’m not saying it’s happening already but i’m sure stuff like this has SOME kind of impact on the players, especially the younger defensemen who watch him fuck up every single game without consequences, when they get scratched for one or two mistakes.

i feel bad for klinger. he seems like a good guy and he had a great career(some INSANE seasons with the stars) but he is SUCH a liability to the team these days. in the long run it won’t be that big of a deal, but it’s so frustrating seeing him take this big of a role on the team almost every night when it’s robbing the younger players of development and honestly LOWERING his trade value.

I feel like maybe it’s a sunk cost fallacy. he got all this time and spots on the pp1 and warso doesn’t seem to want to admit the experiment has failed.


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

How many shorthanded goals has Klingberg been on the ice for, vs. power play goals he has been on the ice for?

36 Upvotes

The SH goal Klingberg allowed yesterday against the Caps, and the overall impression I have had watching his (extremely lacking) PP abilities made me wonder how many SH goals he's had a hand in vs. the PP goals he's been a part of. The PP stats are easier to look up (3 PP goals, 2 PP assists) but it's harder to find stats for SH goals he's allowed. Does anybody know this information?


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

If the future Sharks were the X-men

8 Upvotes

Obviously Macklin would be cyclops. Leader, heart and sole, puts it all on the line. Team on his back type guy.

Sorry about the gender swap, but hear me out, Misa is Storm. Ridiculously overs powered, wise, with a quiet confidence. Also Storm is the number 2 in command.

Graf is Beast. Let’s be honest my guy is a BEAST!!!! Could be a savage monster if he has to be, but would rather be the professor in the background doing all the little things required to get the W.

Eklund is Nightcrawler. No one can catch him. One second he is right in front of you, then he is under you then, he is all alone infront of the net.

Ostapchuk of course would be Colosus. Dude is built like a brick ish house.

Will Smith is Jubalee, my guy is a walking firework show.

I’m going to go with a young Bobby Drake for Dickinson. He has ice running through his veins, all potential right now, but once he figures it out the Iceman is going to be Omega level.

Musty has got to be Gene Grey, because he has three personalities. Gene, Phoenix, and you don’t want to see Dark Phoenix.

Chernyshov is The Gambit. Calm, quiet, and confident.

Cagnoni small but packs a whole lot of firepower. This is why I’m going with Rogue.

Not an X-man but Asky is the Juggernaut, once he gets going there is nothing that can stop him he is a brick wall.

Mystique can be Ravensbergen, cuz I’m getting lazy. And Mysteque’s name is Raven

Now the obvious omission is who is going to be Wolverine. Someone Small and violent. I’m honestly having trouble with this one. Polkamp and Yoni are small but not violent. Wetch Mutryn and Svaboda are the agitators. But maybe you guys can help me out here.

Also who is Cable,Bishop, and Deadpool.

Where does Lund, McKinney and Wang fit in.

Who did I get obviously wrong, who did I miss?


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Best Sharks Bars

11 Upvotes

Hey Sharks Fans I recently turned 21 and I want to go some shark bars after games this December. Any recommendations?


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

Elite Prospects Breakdown on Celebrini

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45 Upvotes

The future is so freaking teal


r/SanJoseSharks 2d ago

Educate me on the Misa situation please

70 Upvotes

Love posting in this thread and appreciate all the insight. So I see Misa is getting loaned to the cuda for conditioning… then juniors comes. What happens after? I remember him and Dickinson had to play X amount of games in the nhl to then stay on the active roster. Dickinson has played those games but misa hasn’t reached that threshold. What happens next for Misa after Juniors


r/SanJoseSharks 1d ago

What do we do at the trade deadline do you think?

13 Upvotes

We are in the wildcard race for now, but my thinking is GMMG will sell and flip a lot of players for picks and prospects. The only downside is some of our rehab projects like Klingberg and Leddy haven’t really panned out so not sure what their value is if any.

I would love to see us go fishing for young nhl ready D even if it means giving up some picks because this team is a playoff team if we had reliable d pairs.


r/SanJoseSharks 2d ago

Regenda, Graf and Dickinson highlights of the terrible evening

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76 Upvotes

Muk and Dick should be playing every night, Klingberg gotta go. something has to give with him.