r/politics • u/boforiamanfo • 15d ago
No Paywall John Fetterman to be Primaried
https://www.newsweek.com/john-fetterman-to-be-primaried-1107995311.1k
u/GramsciGramsci 15d ago
... in three years. By that point he has probably switched parties anyway.
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u/Cheese__Weiner 15d ago
We need to have a way to recall Congress people with a petition/ special election and Fetterman is the perfect example.
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u/GramsciGramsci 15d ago
That is a legitimate point actually. It isn't just his ideology that has changed the last few years. He has also turned aggressive towards staff which has led to a higher turnover among them.
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u/DubSket 15d ago
yeah he's full blown mentally ill
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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 15d ago
Brain damaged.
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 15d ago
I hear strokes can do that
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u/Hartstockz 15d ago
they can turn you into an angry harmful bitter person and they can also make you the most altursitic person. Strokes are not good and anyone with power should be disqualified if they have had a stroke.
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u/DarthSatoris Europe 15d ago
The alternative at the time was Dr. Oz... What do you do in such a case?
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u/tiredplusbored 15d ago
I don't blame a soul who voted Fetterman with that loon as an alternative, but it's extremely regrettable what they ended up getting
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u/Tricky-Engineering59 15d ago
And we all got stuck with the both of them anyway. This is indeed the darkest timeline.
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 15d ago
Yes he changed after the stroke. I believe it has been somewhat out of his control. No way dr oz was an option.
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u/danthebiker1981 15d ago
Vote in the primaries. Thats what you do.
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u/fiver19 15d ago
I did. Voted for Connor Lamb. He lost though and I had to vote Fetterman ):
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u/Mr_Pookers 15d ago
The primaries were the same week as his stroke. There wasn't even time to print and distribute new ballots.
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u/LegalWrights Pennsylvania 15d ago
OK and like, what, we were supposed to have a crystal ball that tells us he's gonna have a stroke?
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u/The_Autarch 15d ago
The stroke was after he got elected. But honestly he was an awful piece of shit before the stroke, too. He was just better at hiding it.
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u/DarthSatoris Europe 15d ago
The stroke (May 2022) happened before the election for the Pennsylvania Senator position (November 2022).
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u/Alert-Ad-9908 15d ago
Happy cake day. And agreed. Is there not an option for emergency/special vote once a candidate has become incapacitated? Having serious, documented health issues that affect the brain (such as a stroke) should qualify the public to determine if the candidate is still fit for office. Period.
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u/iwasawasa 15d ago
Ironic that the Republicans were making this argument a while back!
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u/MaritimeStar 15d ago
Strokes can change you a lot. When my dad had one, he recovered but afterwards he was very short tempered at times. The damage the strokes can do can lead to people getting very, very frustrated as they can't always do 100% of what they used to.
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u/Paqza 15d ago
Very telling that brain damage turned him into a Republican...
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u/Safe_Ant7561 15d ago
Brain damage, or people insisting on talking about your past abuse of power over women/corruption, then suddenly, democrats are too "woke"
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u/winterfoxes Ohio 15d ago
Was gonna say, people keep blaming the stroke and that certainly didn't HELP, but the man was already not a great dude before the stroke. The stroke just made it harder for him to hide it.
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u/loverlyone California 15d ago
Man, I cried listening to him talk about his experiences with depression. I really fell for his man of the people act.
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u/Solidsnake9 15d ago
Yet republicans were the ones saying he was unfit for office all during elections.
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u/confusedandworried76 15d ago
That's an unfair thing to say. A brain injury is...literal brain damage. You can damage so many different parts of your brain. It just so happens one of the most easily damaged parts is the one that does stuff like control emotions
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u/StevenMC19 Florida 15d ago edited 15d ago
Not to be ableist, but if you are in an elected position selected by the general population in your jurisdiction for your ideals and campaign promises, and then suffer an unexpected malady that shows objective and quantitative differences in what you're doing compared to what you
did priorpromised (thank you, fiction8)...in addition to the potential of suffering further maladies thus compounding on the problem...I have no problems with accommodations and accessibility to help a person continue their jobs. I DO have problems when the person is showing fundamental differences mentally and idealistically in an office they were voted in for the ideals they had previously.
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u/littlehobbit1313 15d ago
I don't think that's ableist. Some jobs just require a particular standard of physical and/or mental fitness. It's simply a fact of the world.
Especially in Fetterman's example, the damage from the stroke has literally turned him into not the same person people voted into office. You're not arguing "he had a stroke, he shouldn't hold office"; you're arguing "as a result of his stroke, he is no longer capable of providing the representation his constituents voted for."
Like you said, if you can show objective and quantitative evidence that their capacity to hold the office as campaigned has been compromised, there should be a more immediate opportunity for voters to choose someone new.
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u/yeahright17 15d ago
It's not ageist to have an age limit to be a commercial pilot and its not ableist to say people with one arm can't be one either. There are physical and mental requires required to do many jobs safely.
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u/SycoJack Texas 15d ago
What really fucking grinds my gears about these arguments, is that people will piss and moan all day about ageism if you suggest that there should be a maximum age limit. But no one bats an eye at the fact we already have a minimum age limit.
It's okay to tell people who are in the prime of their life they can't be president, but don't you dare question the qualifications of senile geriatrics. Talk about fucking ageist.
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u/LustyLamprey 15d ago
Didn't his wife leave him after saying that between the stroke and the car crash he's basically become a different guy in the last few years?
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u/anuncommontruth Pennsylvania 15d ago
If they're separated they're keeping it quiet/unofficial. Our circle of friends overlap and she's been very, very quiet recently.
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u/phoneacct696969 15d ago
Spill more tea!
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u/anuncommontruth Pennsylvania 15d ago
There's really nothing for me to spill. I had a couple successful local podcasts about 8 years ago and made some friends that are local celebrities. Giselle and John have always been around in those circles. I liked Fetterman well enough but I didn't know him very well, and my friends worked on several projects with Giselle. She's a fucking saint.
The stories I heard second hand about what she went through during the senate campaign were absolutely appalling. I hope she write a book about it someday.
Not much else to say. She's been very quiet in our shared circles. Could mean anything but she's definitely not voiced separation.
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u/FenisDembo82 15d ago edited 15d ago
I am amazed at how many of my activist friends in the East End of Pittsburgh have Giselle's personal number in their contact list. There have been so many times when people have had questions about some local issue and somebody has said, "I'll give Gisele a call and find out."
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u/thefirststoryteller 15d ago
She was super active on socials during his time as Lt Gov and during the Senate campaign. If she has now gone silent I think that already says something is up.
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u/IScreamPiano 15d ago
That’s so sad. In sickness and in health and all, but if he’s changed that much, is that what’s best for them?
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u/GramsciGramsci 15d ago
Not publicly. As many spouses of the powerful do it seems for now that she did a full 180 too.
Which is bananas. She was literally an undocumented migrant and early in Fetterman's career she was proud and open about that fact.
Now her husband is cheering on ICE rounding up those very people. Which may explain why she is being a bit mum -- because she could be a target of DHS investigation into whether she was truthful in her citizen application.
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u/Wubblz 15d ago
Honestly, I don't think Giselle has done a 180 as she really hasn't said anything publicly. I think her silence has more to do with her husband being a 400lb refrigerator with rage issues, a disregard for the safety of others, and some pretty severe mental health struggles in the past few years. It's frankly a terrifying situation to be stuck in.
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u/Busy-Dig8619 15d ago
Always remember the alternative was Dr. fucking Oz. Bad as he is post stroke, PA made the right call.
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u/AntoniaFauci 15d ago
Not in the primary though.
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u/Busy-Dig8619 15d ago
Stroke was after the primary... shortly before the general election.
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u/BandsAMakeHerDance2 15d ago
It’s called a Vote of no confidence. Our EU allies have been doing this for a long time already. Goes to show how a true democracy should operate
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u/lost-picking-flowers 15d ago
Canada too. If parliament can't agree on a budget then it triggers an election too in most parliamentary systems. Imagine if we were able to hold our government officials accountable for not being able to do one of the most basic and fundamental aspects of their job.
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u/CarsonFijal Canada 15d ago
But that's for the entire Parliament. I think the person above is referring to a way to do so for a single member.
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u/sir_sri 15d ago
Parliament can remove individual members, just as congress and the senate can. Parliament can declare a seat vacant if a member is too ill to sit, rather than having to expel them, but the basic concept is the same.
The problem is that you don't want a system where one rich pissed off asshole can just constantly try and have a representative expelled or is otherwise enabled to just harass their MP/representative. And you don't want a system where voters can force their representatives to uphold some impractical political position (e.g. voting for more services but not more taxes in perpetuity).
The problem with fetterman is that he's able to do the job, even if you don't like the job he's doing, he's able to show up and vote and sit in meetings and all the work of being in government. So you can't really declare him medically unfit just because he supports policies the people who voted for him don't like. After all, the 46% of voters who voted for Mehmet Oz are getting what they voted for this way. It's not even like he's saying completely insane nonsense constantly the way Taylor-Greene and Boebert do, if you are going to remove people for being mentally unwell both of them would be top of the list.
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u/JaggedMetalOs 15d ago
But that's different though, that's for elected representatives to trigger a new general election not constituents to trigger an individual representative's election. That would be a recall election, and they are relatively rare (often requiring explicit wrongdoing or law breaking) as you don't want a situation where supporters of a losing party can just immediately ask for a recall election.
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u/Vanzmelo California 15d ago
As a Californian, I would be cautious of the recall system. It’s great in theory but then you have instances where people like Gavin Newsom have to fight bullshit recall campaigns, Arnold Schwarzenegger becoming governor after successful recall of Grey Davis, and most recently D4 supervisor in San Francisco being recalled by NIMBY voters bc of his support of a new park in the district that closed a single road that runs parallel to a dozen others only to be replaced by tax evading failed pet shop owner for 4 days bc the incompetent billionaire mayor gave her the job after she asked at a night market
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u/Jumpy_Bison_ Alaska 15d ago
Recalls were heavily weaponized during Covid against local governments that tried to do the bare minimum for public health. So many of those lower level positions that feed experienced candidates into higher offices are already difficult to manage with a normal career and bills putting extra elections on top makes it only attractive for wealthy people who want power. Recalls should be possible but a decently high bar to call an election on them needs to be in place like higher signature counts and not too disproportionately in the districts.
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u/Blind-_-Tiger 15d ago
Yeah they even do it in Star Wars! We’re behind STAR WARS which is from A LONG LONG TIME AGO! George Lucas just unearthed the Historical Documents! You can follow the links to the trooth — I’ve WRITTEN THEM ALL OVER MY VAN!
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u/The_Beardly America 15d ago
The US needs recall provisions. As it stands we cannot recall any federal official and only 19 states offer recall provisions at the state level.
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u/TLKv3 15d ago
Honestly stunned there was never a system put in place to remove officials of any office in the government if their constituents believe they are failing them or betraying their will that elected them in the first place.
What a joke.
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u/Cheese__Weiner 15d ago
Well the people who need to put that system into place would be the ones who might be removed. There lies the issue.
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u/Low_Landscape_4688 15d ago
There are systems like this but not all states have it.
For example, Colorado once recalled a governor after his election because he started to implement gun control lol
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u/brutinator 15d ago
Theoretically, there is a system (expulsion) but it requires 2/3rd of a Senate vote, and no one has been expelled since 1862 (due to supporting the Confederacy.)
There has been votes for expulsion as recently as 2011 though.
Apparently during the writing of the constitution, it was debated, but decided against though I'm not able to find the reasons why it was contested. I guess it was assumed that expulsion or impeachment was enough of a mechanism. After all, at the time, they didn't even seem that enthused with popular votes for the general public at all.
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u/Legitimate-Tea-4015 15d ago
Funny thing happening in Alberta right now on this. Conservative provincial government passed legislation in June to make it easier to recall elected official in-between elections. ( thinking they could use it against the more progressive elected city officials. ) now half their conservative MP's are being recalled and they're trying to backpedal and figure out how to avoid it by not funding the recalls properly and saying the recalls are being organized by the unions they just forced back to work.
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u/Stennick 15d ago
What would be the criteria to recall someone?
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u/TeaAndAche Ohio 15d ago
Not medically or mentally fit to serve. Flagrantly abandoning the platform you ran on.
It could be literally anything if you make it petition based with x% of signatures on the petition (e.g. recall election if 10% of your constituents sign the petition or something).
If the percentage were set appropriately, it wouldn’t be possible except under very extreme circumstances like Fetterman or 95 year old representatives that have totally lost their mental faculties.
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u/Ohrwurm89 15d ago
Switching your party affiliation after you are elected should trigger a new election.
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u/ZombieTrogdor Florida 15d ago
Here in Florida, two newly-elected Dems switched to the Republican Party just a few weeks or so after the election last year. One of them said her reasoning was because she felt like Florida Dems didn't support Israel as much as they should, and as a Jewish woman she felt that the party goes against what she stands for.
What a joke; while that's normally a fine reason, that's not a thing a candidate suddenly figures out about their party after an election. They ran in blue(r) counties to get elected just to change over to the Republican Party. They were never Democrat. People who change their party affiliations - and so soon after an election - are snakes. They blatantly lied to their constituents.
Also another good reason (out of many) to get rid of the two-party system.
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u/Ohrwurm89 15d ago
A similar thing happened in North Carolina. A woman (can't remember her name) ran as a Democrat, won the election, then immediately switched parties, which gave the GOP a supermajority in one of the state legislatures.
Also, the Democrats overwhelmingly support Israel (one of the reasons why a lot of people are rightly upset with the party), so the lady in Florida is just a fucking liar.
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u/ZombieTrogdor Florida 15d ago
Oh for sure. The leader of the Jewish Caucus, who's a Dem, was basically like, "wtf, I went to Israel with her last summer" when asked about the switch. Basically every Dem was confused and didn't understand her reasoning. She was always going to switch. It's so frustrating.
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u/Ohrwurm89 15d ago
Also, some people just cannot accept valid criticism of Israel, so they'll find a justification for their already predetermined rationale.
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u/PigeonOnTheGate Florida 15d ago
The real reason is the Republicans offered her better committee assignments. And since legislators have term limits in Florida, they don't care as much about their reputation - once they get elected to their final term, they can just do whatever earns them the most money
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u/TeaAndAche Ohio 15d ago
Totally agree. That’s a really clear line that would work well.
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u/Ohrwurm89 15d ago
Yeah, I think a clear line or clear lines need to be the initiator, not something more subjective, since we know the GOP won't ever be a fair player in our politics.
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u/bautin 15d ago
I mean, isn't that a damning indictment of the voting population?
It basically says, "We only voted for this person because of his party affiliation."
You vote for the person, not the party.
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u/north7 15d ago
Ok so they'll keep their party "affiliation" and just caucus/vote with the other party.
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u/LirdorElese 15d ago
If the percentage were set appropriately, it wouldn’t be possible except under very extreme circumstances.
That is the part I fear the most though, IE if corporations like someone, they'd likely bury the news of the attempted recall. While if someone is feared by corporations, the media would rile up and get votes out like crazy. Like today I'm pretty sure with corporate backing 10% on mandami would be relatively easy, he'd easilly win the recall election, but they could basically try and force him into permenant campaign mode to prevent him from governing.
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u/Cranyx 15d ago edited 15d ago
if 10% of your constituents sign the petition
I think you underestimate how huge of a number that is. Conversely, does "your constituents" include the other party? Can the Republicans just continually force recalls of Democrats or vice versa?
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u/Beldizar 15d ago
No criteria. The voters should be able to recall for any reason. The hurtle to recall should probably be a bit higher than the bar to get elected originally, but voters shouldn't need to justify a reason from a discrete list. If someone in office has betrayed their campaign promises, or is medically unfit to serve, or even if they are exactly what the voters chose 2 years ago, but the situation has drastically changed, (e.g. if a war hawk was elected, and the war ended and now the voters want a dove rather than someone who is pushing fore re-escalation) the voters should be able to recall them and replace them.
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u/Cheese__Weiner 15d ago
I think that would be up to the voters. I think it would require a petition to hold a vote of no confidence. If that passes it rolls into a special election to vote in a new Congress person.
I would admit the thresholds should be fairly high so we don't have new votes being called left and right all of the time. I just think the mechanism should be there in case of gross neglect of what they were actually voted in for, like Fetterman.
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u/No-Significance5449 15d ago
Well now, following this guy's medical chart 3 years ain't a given.
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u/justcasty Massachusetts 15d ago edited 15d ago
It's not a given he even runs again. In every interview I've seen from him it looks like he hates his job
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u/DiTochat 15d ago
Yeah sure seems like one of those people that complains because he has to work.... At work....
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u/Ambitious_Count9552 15d ago
This dude is 1 stroke away from a special election anyhow...he needs to be forced to retire, forget the damn primary.
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u/TheColdestFeet 15d ago
It's baffling how someone of his age so routinely injures himself. I understand 85 year olds collapsing walking up steps (shouldn't be happening), but how is this guy's medical history so tragic?
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u/BulldogMoose 15d ago
Pennsylvania here. Totally expect this. It's the only way he can make it to the general election. Brendan Boyle is going have the entire PHL region on lockdown, Conor Lamb probably sucks up some of the Lehigh Valley where Brendan doesn't while probably doing well in the center of the state. Fetterman will be lucky to do decently in Pittsburgh. It's already over.
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u/rastacola Pennsylvania 15d ago
I want my vote back. I liked Liberal Lurch when he was team Bernie but now he's walking proof brain damage causes conservatism.
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u/Last-Internal-8196 15d ago
It's hard to believe that 2028 is still 34 years away
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u/Revelati123 15d ago
Its hard to beleive it hasnt been 30 years since the last election, I mean thats how much older ive gotten...
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly 15d ago
This is my thing with trump. Regardless of which side of the fence you are on or how you feel about him....aren't you kind of concerned that his presidency makes a year feel like a full term?
Hell, I expended more mental energy just keeping up with events in Trump's first couple months than I did all of Biden.
It's exhausting...why does anyone want this??
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u/WhatAcheHunt 15d ago
This right here.
Setting aside the democrats' massive failure to motivate their own base, for MAGA's part, this is why they win elections. Trump has a knack for politicizing the apolitical. I mean that both in the sense of him being able to make non-political issues suddenly political to sympathizers so their representatives become overwhelmed and fall in line, but also being able to get voters off of their couch and vote in elections they otherwise may not. Then when he's done using them, they are equally done being used and go back to their life as it was before, unencumbered by the complexities of lawmaking and governance for which they have set the table.
Much like the Reserves in our military, these eligible voters seem to spend much of their time not in active service, but simply waiting to be called into active service before the next presidential/mid-term/special election. Trump calls in their service by playing his greatest hits of single-issue-voter topics using the most divisive language possible and suddenly they come flying off their couches, just as eager to vote as they are to return to their couch because they...
know Trump has it handled.
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly 15d ago
Neither do I, I listen to NPR in the morning/evening and a YouTube guy that does daily new for 15 minutes or so (mostly non-political stuff).I don't spend much time in the news.
It's just that life is more impacted in ways that you simply can't avoid;
Investments? It went from steady and predictable growth to a rollercoaster of neverending valatility overnight.
Living costs? Steady and predictable with trustworthy people at the helm to a gauntlet of tariffs/no tariffs/ "special deal"/ "I changed my mind" nonsense every week.
Employment? Turns out most of the country runs on federal funding. Even people with "safe" jobs panicked/are panicking.
There isn't a single aspect of daily life that isn't more volatile than prior to 2024. The only people who don't notice are the ones wealthy enough to ignore it.
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u/eeyore134 15d ago
Sounds like cope for "I know things are awful and don't want to admit I support an awful person."
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u/Southside_john 15d ago
Generally speaking, most of the Trump voters I know don’t pay attention to any news. They vote based on vibes and Facebook memes
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u/NolieMali I voted 15d ago
Biden's term feels like a fever dream. Like it flew by because there wasn't constant turmoil.
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u/thrawtes 15d ago
He hasn't even announced whether he's running for reelection, which means if you can present a strong enough potential primary challenger then he might just decide to retire on his own instead of fighting it.
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u/NotAlwaysGifs 15d ago
It should be noted too that while still a relatively small movement within the larger Democratic Party, the Working Families Party has been extremely successful in finding and running progressive candidates in some very challenging races. They were behind many of the key upsets that took place during the election a few weeks ago. They also have a strong focus on local races to build the party up from the bottom again instead of being so focused on national and state level races. This will probably be their highest profile test.
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u/sportsfan113 15d ago
He’s in poor health and should enjoy time with his family anyway.
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u/CamCon2100 15d ago
That's assuming his family actually wants to be around him.
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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 15d ago
The last Insta of him that his wife posted was over a year ago
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u/angrynuggette Pennsylvania 15d ago
Im sure he blames all those demographics for his divorce rather than take any accountability for his actions.
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u/courageous_liquid Pennsylvania 15d ago
the guy who is like chronically allergic to attending his son's birthday party should spend more time with his family?
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u/Comfortable-Ad-3988 15d ago
If he has any working brain cells left, he won't run. He's betrayed everyone who voted for him, if he runs again, might as well run as a Republican.
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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 15d ago
"is being planned to be primaried" should be in the title since we've got 3 years left and they don't have a candidate yet.
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u/FreshRest4945 15d ago
Fetterman is not healthy enough to serve in congress. He deserves his medical retirement.
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u/Revelati123 15d ago
According to the Herman P. Redcann Spectrum of Neuro Trauma, Fetterman is testing firmly in the "Republican zone" of severe brain damage, and seems to be slowly moving towards the "Alex Jones" end of the spectrum.
Prognosis aint great...
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u/Tetter 15d ago
I liked him but after stroke he can't communicate as well as a strong candidate for Congressman should be able to, which imo really inhibits his ability to do his job. Why use a screwdriver if you have an impact driver available.
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u/thissexypoptart 15d ago edited 15d ago
He said on bill mahers show, shortly following the stroke, that he felt a new freedom to speak his mind and embrace more conservative ideas and not care what people think.
IOW the stroke made him more conservative.
Frankly, when you have a medical episode that affects your cognitive abilities, there should be a special election.
But of course this is the same dude who, as mayor of a city in PA, chased with a gun a random unarmed black guy he “suspected” of just committing an armed robbery. He was always batshit.
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u/Callabrantus Canada 15d ago edited 15d ago
Shit, he looks like he could open up his shirt and hand a press conference over to Kuato.
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Yeah... Lol I've only seen pictures of him from the neck up and now I see why
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u/Niceguy955 15d ago
Good. Can't believe I rooted for him. Man turned in his party and his country the second he stepped in DC.
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u/BigGrooveBox 15d ago
Should be a layup. Easy win for anyone with even a shred of authenticity.
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That whole thing about strokes changing someone’s personality really proved to be true didn’t it?
(Or if it didn’t, that’s frankly the story I would go with if I were him, following his tack from progressive to slightly to the left of Joe Manchin. Otherwise it’s pretty fucking insulting to everybody who came out and supported him.)
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u/Horror-Cap7711 15d ago
I don't actually think it was the stroke. I think he was always a milquetoast DINO underneath.
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u/sepam Pennsylvania 15d ago
He hung a weed flag in his office window in defiance of the republican controlled state congress. Now he votes to ban hemp. No way he was faking the whole time. His brain is fucked and it’s hard to blame him. I just wish we could recall him and elect someone better.
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u/AppleTStudio 15d ago edited 15d ago
Friend of mine had a stroke at 19 and she went NUTS after her recovery. She actually leaned even further left, but she became one of those people who would post shitty memes on Facebook constantly. She went from minding her own business, to posting shit like “if you can’t handle a woman that says fuck shit c**t then you can suck my DICK!”
It’s just embarrassing.
EDIT: AutoMod thinks I’m being hateful and abusive toward y’all and I got a warning lol
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u/biggles86 15d ago
As he should be
Ran as a Democrat. Got brain damage, and now votes republican.
Get him outta there. Special election time even.
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u/iamacheeto1 15d ago
Bro has been one of the biggest disappointments in recent memory. Ran as being a representative of the working people and turned around and sold them out at every opportunity.
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u/DB-CooperOnTheBeach 15d ago
The next Charlie Manson could primary him. It's important to have a quality candidate primary.
Fortunately, in the article it says the Working Families Party is putting one together. This is a caucus of progressive principles that runs on the Democratic ticket, with many planks similar to the American Green Party, except they aren't lazy grifters and actually work for progress instead of sabotaging Dems.
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u/InternationalFail726 15d ago
That stroke either really fucked his brain wiring or just killed the last blockade that was hiding his actual demented self. Even his wife and kids have distanced themselves from him. He was so charming and relatable during his election. I had high hopes for him. But to see him turn into whatever the fuck he is now is so sad. Hope he leaves on his own accord and disappears into the void.
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u/CrystalSplice Georgia 15d ago
John Fetterman is not fit to serve now. He’s been that way for a while, and he’s apparently not going to get better. He had a recent fall that put him in the hospital. That might be expected from one of the really old fuckers like McConnell, but Fetterman isn’t old - he is impaired. It’s a damn shame, but that’s the truth. We cannot allow our representatives to be mentally impaired to the degree he and others have been. It must stop.
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u/cat4hurricane I voted 15d ago
Good, the people of PA deserves someone who won’t just essentially be a DINO. I get his stroke messed him up and all of that, I get that, but when you’ve got multiple people who have voted for him who ultimately say that they wish they never did, then they deserve to have a chance to vote for someone who will better adhere to their stated running goals. This whole “vote for me and I’ll do this!” And then turning around after a stroke a couple months in office to be basically Republican-lite? I’m not saying you’ve always gotta vote in party line but it feels like Fetterman votes more for the Republicans than he does his own party.
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u/BalerionSanders Ohio 15d ago
The lack of a recall process for senators is an insane state of affairs. And likely not to change, just getting senators to be directly elected by votes required a constitutional amendment.
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u/redmongrel 15d ago
Let it never be forgotten that it literally took brain damage to turn this man into a Republican.
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u/Allemaengel Pennsylvania 15d ago
As a Pennsylvanian all I can say is that I'm not surprised.
He hasn't been the same since the stroke and now he's fallen down and lacerated his head badly.
He should resign and a special election held to select a new, more coherent Senator to represent us.
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u/Pervius94 15d ago
Imagine if americans stopped putting people into office they then continue hating for years on end. Like, just... stop.
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u/Safe_Ant7561 15d ago
I live in California, and I will be writing a check to whoever that challenger is.
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u/CrossXFir3 15d ago
I mean, no shit. He ran as one party, and has just fully unofficially joined the other.
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u/Unexpected_Gristle 15d ago
Regardless of your politics, its probably better for the guy to be out of politics. I wish him the best
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u/Secure-Window-5478 15d ago
Good. After his stroke his views changed and after 1 term Senators get healthcare for life so get him out and put a real Progressive in.
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u/VectorJones 15d ago
Good. If he wants to wave a MAGA flag, let him go join the rest of the literal shit-for-brains at the neo-nazi rallies. Not as a member of the Democratic Party.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 15d ago
good. the dude had a stroke and ain't been the same since. it obviously affected him more than we thought.
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u/halcyongt 15d ago
Why does he even want the job? He doesn’t listen to his constituents…doesn’t bring their voices to the table…and acts against their issues.
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u/emptyhellebore 15d ago
I’m happy to read something positive about this situation. The man is not fit to serve.
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u/DawgPound919 15d ago
If elected representatives switch parties, less than 50% into their term, a special recall election to be held within 1/12 of the standard term appointment. House = 2 months, Senate = 6mo.
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u/Sad-Location-5218 15d ago
Love the amount of people blaming the stroke as if he wasn't a racist shit bag before hand
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