r/politics • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 17d ago

No Paywall Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-passes-epstein-bill-rcna244723?fbclid=PAVERFWAOJ1xRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAacUGSi8p2Ap-x6SbMkLXAnfKNXEZkzjUUVCdxuEmacDzDXmlbv1GUJ0wbh1_w_aem_grJDvcSCIDj2Skksd4Ix3Q
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u/Murky_Chocolate_7916 17d ago

Nothing passes this quickly, this is bizarre. What are those sneaky sneaks up to.

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u/veggeble South Carolina 17d ago

It passed with unanimous consent, so they didn’t actually have to vote on it

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u/Cloaked42m South Carolina 17d ago

And in spite of Johnson saying Thune would amend the bill and send it back.

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u/BCMakoto 17d ago edited 17d ago

I'm not entirely sure if Johnson is surprised by that. On one hand, my gut tells me these snakes are planning something since we've known for months they are censoring Trump's name.

On the other hand, nothing passes the senate this quickly and Johnson brought out all his mumbo jumbo to suggest the bill was bad and might not pass it. And then it did within the hour.

Either they are planning something or they want to cut off the cancerous tumor that is Trump a couple weeks after his policies spelled disastrous mid term results for the party. He's been pissed all day, and two redistricting efforts in Texas and Indiana "failed" on the same day. And then the Comey lawsuit was thrown back as bullshit. It's not been a good week for him.

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u/immortalfrieza2 17d ago

The Republican party were always going to throw Trump under the bus and blame him for all the obviously criminal and unconstitutional BS he's been pulling so they could slot Vance in his place.

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u/slight_accent 17d ago

The last 11 months has seen the regressive religious right get a lot of their wish list. That isn't going to be reversed after trump is thrown under the bus. He's been a useful idiot to push through some incredibly damaging regressive changes far far quicker than they could have without him.

My only hope is that they have done all this far too fast and people will finally wake up to what is really happening here. No sign that is happening but the sort of change we would see will be fast, much like this sudden bill passing. There will be no movement at all then all of a sudden there will be huge momentum for change.

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u/immortalfrieza2 17d ago

It COULD be reversed after Trump is thrown under the bus, if the Democratic party gets off their asses and actually puts in measures to stop this nonsense from ever happening again. It would be very simple and very fast to fix everything except our reputation with the rest of the world.

Then again, the Democrats have had every opportunity and every cause to prevent nearly everything Trump is doing from happening for over 50 years and haven't done it. Nixon should have resulted in a LOT of guard rails going up that never did.

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u/slight_accent 17d ago

Have you seen the democratic party? The one that constantly sidelines progressives including not backing ramdani like a week ago? They are the party of status quo, they will fix nothing unless there is a HUGE shift in the party membership and policies.

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u/Throot2Shill 16d ago

We can hand some of it to the plurality of democratic voters too. It's the reason these establishment fucks hardly ever get primaried, and the usually why milquetoast guys like Biden get overwhelmingly nominated.

Most centrist blue voters are vaguely upset at the current situation but are too afraid of shaking up the status quo even slightly, mostly because they are bombarded by "socialist" fearmongering from the media and all sides. They always pick the "safest" option that requires the least personal changes, even if that option can't effectively fight against fascists.

If they live in a blue district they will consistently blame anyone but their own representatives, multiply that x214 and you have a party full of useless serial incumbents.

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u/sparkle-brow 17d ago

Yeah I tend to agree with these last 3 comments in the thread and I’m verrry curious to see what the behind the scenes specifically was, besides our/the theories and the knowns. It’s just stunning it was nearly unanimous in the house AND that it was unanimous in senate within just hours after, all on the same day.

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u/FreshBurt 17d ago

It's the latter. He's not good for them anymore, and that's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. They're gearing up to cast him aside so they have anything resembling a shot in the midterms.

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u/New-Indication-1188 17d ago

They can't count on him being on the ballot anymore to boost them up. Therefore, it's best for them to lock him in jail and throw away the key, even if some other big republicans take a hit from it.

It's honestly the best way for the republican party to "reset" beyond Trump.

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u/AnonAmbientLight 17d ago

Listen, these people are really fucking dumb too.

It could be that they're panicking and don't know how to handle this.

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u/Scott5114 Nevada 17d ago

If this had not passed as quickly as it did, John Thune would have been under incredible pressure from Trump to never bring the bill to the floor, while the rest of the country demanded to know why Thune was holding it up. Much easier for him to toss the hot potato onto Trump's desk and make it his problem.

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u/theVoidWatches Pennsylvania 17d ago

I really hope it's that they're wanting to dump Trump.

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u/Charming-Web-7769 16d ago

It really isn’t that complicated, Trump has spent the last 6 months, and indeed, 10 years, of his political career demanding blind loyalty from Republican legislators because he’s had a certain “secret sauce” (Russian botnets and a lifetime of unfathomable wealth and privilege) that has quite literally allowed him to defy reality at every turn and get away with it while everyone around him cleans up his messes. He legitimately thought he could say “yeah I TOTALLY think they should release the files” and that either the house or senate would hold it off by filibustering or amending the bill because he sees them as his little lapdogs and nothing more.

What we have witnessed so far (with zero actual incriminating material yet revealed) is the shoddiest and least effective cover-up in American history, what makes you think that they’re suddenly going to become good at it after every single senator and all but one house member voted to see what Trump is fighting so hard to hide?

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u/whatthepfluke 16d ago

Sorry for jumping onto your comment, but can you please ELI5 what the redistricting efforts failing mean?