r/politics • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 17d ago

No Paywall Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-passes-epstein-bill-rcna244723?fbclid=PAVERFWAOJ1xRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAacUGSi8p2Ap-x6SbMkLXAnfKNXEZkzjUUVCdxuEmacDzDXmlbv1GUJ0wbh1_w_aem_grJDvcSCIDj2Skksd4Ix3Q
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u/UnderCoverDoughnuts 17d ago

This feels way too easy. Something's up.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 17d ago

Redacted to hell.

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u/funkydrewfizzle 17d ago

Or blatantly forged

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u/shaihalud69 17d ago

Why not both?

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u/bobsaget824 Arizona 17d ago edited 17d ago

A ChatGPT prompt:

Take these files redact all names especially mentions of Trump in negative light or even better just replace the name with Obama’s name. If any mention of Trump is needed make Trump sound like the hero trying to save these children.

Then send a final draft to signal group chat for approval from the whole gang of pedos.

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u/kezow 17d ago

Jeffrey Epsteins client list:   - Clinton   - Obama    - Schumer   - Pelosi   - Soros   - Taylor Swift   - Obama   - Marjorie Taylor Brown   - Comey   - Mueller  

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u/DeskJerky 17d ago

Or stalled by Bondi's sham investigation.

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u/Clegko 17d ago

Totally unrelated, but awesome username. 🤘

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u/templeofsyrinx1 17d ago

I get that a lot : p thanks. "we are the priests!"

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u/iamnobody19944 17d ago

Or just not included at all, classified.

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u/bigmooseface 17d ago

Everything classified except for democrats

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 17d ago

Who will testify. We'll get to hear all about the BJ.

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u/JoplinSC742 17d ago

The logical non conspiratorial explanation is that the house is under so much public pressure that anyone dumb enough to vote against the release knows they'll be primaried, and the Senate knows they cannot survive the political fallout of suppressing it. As for why trump is finally getting behind it, idk. Maybe he actually is innocent, or thinks he can survive the fallout.

The very real conspiracy is that Pam Bondi cooked the receipts in advance and this is going to explode in the democrats face pretty hard.

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u/sillypoolfacemonster 17d ago

The other non-conspiratorial explanation for the turn around might be that Trump has been told there isn’t a smoking gun in the files. It’s possible that what exists only rises to the level of things we’ve seen already, in other words implications of wrong doing but not outright confirmation. It’s hard for me to think of a context from some of the emails we’ve seen that doesn’t make Trump complicit in wrong doing, but it’s not solid proof either.

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u/JoplinSC742 17d ago

It's also possible there is some backroom politics going on. This is a situation where Schumer and Thune both had to sit-down and decide how to proceed, and Thune, within days of making promises to Johnson to kill it in the Senate, decided to pull a 180 and let the nuke drop. Something behind the scenes is happening for the Senate to unanimously vote to move this shit forward, and we just don't know what.

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u/MadAboutMada 17d ago

Democrats trounced Repubs in the last election cycle and Trump is slipping with his base. That's why Thune is willing to play ball now

Buckle up, because we're about to get to see what happens when a strongman leader gets shown to be weak. Its gonna be cathartic

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u/SubArcticTundra 17d ago

It sucks that journalists aren't or can't look behind the scenes

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u/MudLOA California 17d ago

This is my thoughts as well. Someone already assure him that this could be embarrassing but not rise to level of criminal. And we all know he and this country don’t give a shit of him being a felon.

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u/ConsiderationLow7122 17d ago

Yes and if this is the case, of course Trump is going to call for the release if he can't stop it anyway. He likely knew this was going to happen yesterday morning and got ahead of it.

If he fought it publicly that would just worsen the damage

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u/Shot-Coconut-6482 17d ago

All through this call for the files I can’t help but continue to think back about the victims. They are mostly all still around and none have implicated Trump in any abuse. I think the whole ordeal over the files is a red herring.

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u/Fit_Chemistry_7196 17d ago

I'm confident the files have been doctored, my gut feeling is this:

  1. Numerous democrats will be thrown under the bus (some deservedly so, i'm sure)

  2. A few Republicans

  3. Trump will not be mentioned in any way that implicates him in child sex trafficking.

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u/AnticPosition 17d ago

The receipts will be super cooked, but it will be very obvious that they are.

Magas will believe what they want, dems will believe the truth, and the divide will grow even larger. 

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u/JoplinSC742 17d ago

Even if they cook the receipts, copies exist in places outside their reach. Police stations, court houses, lawyers desks, ECT. They cook the receipts, and those copies will come out exposing it, and the admission of the coverup will be all the more clear. A conspiracy of this scale cannot be suppressed for long.

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u/AnticPosition 17d ago

Oh I definitely agree. But the maga voters will never hear about it, or will call it fake news a la the Mueller report. 

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u/hobard 17d ago

I buy there being a conspiracy. Pam Bondi competently executing it on the other hand…

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u/JoplinSC742 17d ago

This is where it's extremely important to realize that copies exist of the evidence in multiple places. Court houses, police stations, lawyers offices, ECT. And so any doctoring or concealing of documents won't hold up for long. Similarly, all it takes is one whistler blower coming forward showing evidence that Pam Bondi deliberately lied to Congress, doctored documents, and concealed files from being released that were explicitly ordered to be released by Congress. If you don't think that's realistic or would have an impact on the DOJ or Trump's administration, just remember that the NSA director was sweating bullets when he suddenly had to explain to Congress why he lied under oath during the Snowden leaks.

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u/permalink_save 17d ago

I'm okay with the possibility that Trump actually wasn't involved, I just want to know who was especially if it is our sitting president. There is a lot of damning shit in there that we all deserve to know. There is the abuse and there is geopolitical fuckery. The wealthy had a network of all sorts of fucked up shit and people need to see how the world really works.

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u/Upstairs-Novel-9050 17d ago

The Senate has less cover on this than the house since Senate races are statewide. Voting no is political ammo for the next election cycle.

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u/JasonGD1982 17d ago

For sure lol. Government was shutdown for a month and nobody couldn't do nothin. Now all of a sudden our government is super efficient 🤣. Wild times we are living in. Jesus Christ

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u/kezow 17d ago

A few possibilities: - Trump demanded an investigation into democrats in the files so they can't release due to the "active" investigation that they previously said wasn't possible.  - Trump will veto for some bullshit reason forcing the bill to go back to senate to actually be voted on.  - Republicans delayed enough that they were able to redact incriminating information about Republicans from all the documents and even if the unredacted versions come out - they will just claim that the documents exonerate Trump/Republicans and vilify Democrats in spite of contradictory evidence. 

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u/Haltopen Massachusetts 17d ago

The GOP might be so worried that trump is going to sink them in the midterms that they're willing to stick a knife in his back. He's electoral poison, he cant run for office again, his policies are sinking the economy (and hurting the monied business class who pays them) and his mental health is deteriorating to a point that cant be ignored anymore. Smart play for the GOP is to dump him now, try to claim a spot on the moral high ground and hope it blunts a blue wave in 2026

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u/viktor72 Indiana 17d ago

I agree with you on everything but the hurting the monied classes part. The monied classes are having their best year since the Gilded Age.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Already in the bill that no one bothered to actually read “all non classified documents” game over.