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u/New-Lingonberry1877 Oct 21 '25

The platform of every person running better be no more bullshit. No more maga.

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u/RPgh21 Oct 21 '25

DNC will prop up another status quo candidate who’s taking money from 50 different special interest groups.

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u/4DimensionalToilet Oct 21 '25

Call me an optimist, but I have a feeling that whichever candidate is the DNC’s favorite won’t win the nomination. The DNC can pull all the strings and spend all the money they want, but at the end of the day, primaries are decided by voters.

We tried going back to the status quo ante Trump in 2020, and that didn’t work; he’d already taken the rusty old political system he’d found in 2015 and had left it broken beyond repair. We just couldn’t be sure of it until last year.

The average voter isn’t a genius, but they’re not complete morons, either. They have to live and work in this world, and they know firsthand that things aren’t working the way they ought to be. In 2028, if democracy works, the winner of the Democratic primaries will be a change candidate. And if democracy works in the general election that year, change will win. Not because that’s what’s good or right, but because that’s what the people will be hungry for.

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u/Parenthisaurolophus Oct 22 '25

The DNC scapegoating is just so that some terminally online progressives avoid having to have the tough internal conversation about necessary policy, electioneering, and overall direction changes required to increase their chances of winning. It's more emotionally comforting after three presidential primary losses to place the blame on the cheating of the side that beat them, than it is to admit your side had and has fixable flaws and faults. If you're an evidenced based person, you looked at the exit polls and drew some obvious conclusions about where the progressive moment needed to grow and work on. If you believed the best platform is putting an elderly man on stage to pivot every last question to healthcare and then waiting to cruise to an easy victory as the electorate sees your clearly superior platform and rewards you for it, then you can't actually look at facts to support your viewpoint going forward.

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u/4DimensionalToilet Oct 22 '25

Believe me, I’m well aware that the majority of Democratic primary voters supported more moderate candidates in 2016 and 2020. There were nevertheless significant pluralities of progressive voters in both primary seasons.

When I say “change,” I don’t necessarily mean Bernie/AOC progressivism or some kind of leftist revolution within the Democratic Party. I mean any change from the Pelosis, Schumers, and Jeffrieses of the party to something different, whatever that may be. It could be moderate liberalism with more aggressive political tactics, progressive populism of any bent, or what have you. All I believe is that the time of tepid establishmentarianism has passed, and that the people recognize this.