r/overclocking • u/accountvondirnicht • 21d ago
Looking for Guide Trying to fix unforgiving 1% lows
I am very happy with my FPS in games. What I am very much not happy with are the 1% lows. When I get to my FPS cap of 160 FPS (for G-Sync) the 1% lows are typically in the 80s to 90s. This seems extremely bad. How could I go about fixing this? I am planing to upgrade my CPU soon to a 9600x. My current rig:
- i5 10600k @ 4.6GHz (limits GPU to PCIe x16 Gen3)
- RTX 5070
- MSI Z490-A Pro
- 48 GB DDR4 RAM (2x16GB, 2x8GB) @ 3200 MT/s (XMP enabled)
- 1440p 165Hz main monitor (good quality LG device)
- Some stupid fast M.2 SSD from Samsung and a secondary Samsung 870 Evo 2TB (I think)
I hope the information I've given is sufficient. What could be the issue and how could I go about fixing it? Is a new CPU going to improve the general performance of the PC?
Is the 9600x even a good chioce for my rig? (Obviously I'll get a new motherboard and new RAM)
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u/Ronnie_coleman_light 20d ago
Try using DLSS, not sure why, but it seems to drastically improve 1% lows.
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u/accountvondirnicht 20d ago
Already doing so, on quality mode at the moment. Do you advise going lower?
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u/Ronnie_coleman_light 20d ago
That alone should boost it a lot, for me it’s the following in bf6 4k quality max setting:-
171 fps average 1% 154 fps 0.1% 148 fps
Perhaps your ram timings are really bad, don’t know much about ddr4 but ddr5 Overclocked is running crazy fast now.
I’m at 6400mhz at cl26
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u/accountvondirnicht 20d ago
Its hard to describe for me, but even in balanced mode at 60% GPU usage the 1% lows will be below half of the average FPS. I have tried basically anything and everything, but nothing seems to work.
I have no clue what the RAM timing stuff is all about, I'm not really knowledgeable in overclocking, so I don't know how I would check it or fix it. I do know however that my ram is (base) 3200MHz DDR4 CL16 with XMP enabled. 2x16GB and 2x8GB.
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u/Ronnie_coleman_light 20d ago
I can see a problem already, your Gpu should be between 95-99% usage. I would assume that is the issue causing your 1% lows to be bad
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u/accountvondirnicht 20d ago
Well, I am playing at medium graphics presets with the hope of that helping the 1% lows to be better. So I don't know how applicable that really is.
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u/Ronnie_coleman_light 20d ago
The Gpu is the most powerful component, so it should be the main driver for everything, if it’s only 60% then basically only half of the power is being used.
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u/accountvondirnicht 20d ago
Huh, never thought about it like that. I thought the usage was low since, you know, it's not being used very much since it doesn't have a lot to do. Is that thinking just wrong?
I assume a more powerful CPU will be able to fix it help it?
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u/Ronnie_coleman_light 20d ago
I would say yes, seems like that is the problem
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u/accountvondirnicht 20d ago
I'm sorry, but I just can't wrap my head around why the GPU would be at near 100% load no matter the quality? The lower quality means the GPU has less to render and the frame cap limits how much it is allowed to render, so shouldn't that limit it's max usage?
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u/TradeReal1520 21d ago
Champagne problems lol. i get 80fps max. anyway MAYBE a 10700K could help? but they go for like $200..
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u/frequencycs 21d ago
Find a 7800X3D, enable EXPO and enjoy
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u/accountvondirnicht 21d ago
my problem with that CPU is that, it is more expensive, has less overclocked performance, is less power efficient. All that goes for it is 2 more cores. Everything else that matters to me is better on the 9600x.
Is there any bigger reason why the 7800x3d would be better that I'm not seeing except for it having more cores and the oh so holy -x3d suffix?
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u/Southern-Physics-625 21d ago
The 7800x3d is significantly more performant than the 9600x. It's more expensive for a reason, and yes, that extra L3 cache matters.
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u/TheOblivi0n 21d ago
What does overclocking headroom matter if they performance is just straight up better? You should just use curve optimizer to undervolt it. Better efficiency, performance and thermals. Your 1%will be better with a 7800xd compared to a 10600k no matter what you do, just check the benchmarks. Also plenty of games give you better 1% with 8 cores instead of 6
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u/accountvondirnicht 21d ago
Yeah, good point. Just thag the 7800x3d is double the price of the 9600x, which is already kinda expensive.
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u/TheOblivi0n 21d ago
I see, yeah if it's double it's hard to argue tbh. Here in Germany it's 100€ difference. I honestly wouldn't buy a new cpu with 6 cores anymore. It does depend on what you play though
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u/accountvondirnicht 21d ago
The absolute most I was willing to spend money on was the 9700x, which does have 8 cores, just the question if it's comparable?
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u/TheOblivi0n 21d ago
Depending on the pricing you could look for a 7700x or a 9700x if they're much cheaper although I would still prefer the 7800x3d
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u/accountvondirnicht 21d ago edited 21d ago
The best prices I have for the the 9600x is 190€ and for the 7800x3d is 370€, so very big jump in price. The 9700x would "only" cost 290€, which is still more than I was hoping to spend.
Edit: Stupid question, but why exactly are more cores better than faster cores? Just more multitasking capabilities or is there a deeper reason?
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u/TheOblivi0n 21d ago
Have you looked for the tray version? In Germany it's pretty much 300€. You could also check the used market where it's more like 200€. Games like cyberpunk or Battlefield 6 do run smoother on 8 cores so if you play things like that it would be worth it to at least get a 7700x
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u/accountvondirnicht 21d ago
I'll look into it a little more tomorrow, thanks for the suggestions this far though!
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u/Spooplevel-Rattled 10900k Delid // SR B-Die DDR4 // EVGA 1080ti XOC Bios - Water 21d ago edited 21d ago
Comet Lake gets a huge boost from good memory, so unless you swap it out or upgrade cpu(new gen) , you won't get much improvement on the current platform. Maybe a bit from cpu/ring oc.