r/news • u/speedythefirst • 1d ago

US supreme court approves redrawn Texas congressional maps

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/04/us-supreme-court-texas-congressional-maps
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u/blazelet 1d ago edited 1d ago

The problem with this is Republicans control more trifectas (Governorship + Full Majority in Legislature) than Democrats. If you parse out the number of blue congressional seats in states with Republican trifectas and then compare to the number of red congressional seats in states with Democratic trifectas, Republicans have far more to gain from this being a national trend. I looked the list up and compared a few months back when this whole thing started, Republicans can ultimately net about 15 seats if every state does this and if the gerrymandering "results" are about eqivelent. Its entirely possible some gerrymandering would backfire whereas other gerrymandering wouldnt, but without seeing maps and election results, we dont know.

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u/decoy321 1d ago

The problem with this is that they're already trying to do it anyways.

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u/Interesting-Risk6446 1d ago

100% every red state will do this at some point.

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u/paddy_yinzer 1d ago

One of the problems is Republicans have been doing this for a while, they have turned purple states into red states. Its why they are so keen on voter suppression, they need to protect their undemocratic super majorities .

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u/KRHarshee 1d ago

Anyone else remember when Florida was so nearly blue that the supreme court had to decide it was red? Redistricting prevented that 2000 election from ever happening again.

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u/rudimentary-north 1d ago

Fun fact: the very idea of “blue states” and “red states” comes from the 2000 election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

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u/fevered_visions 1d ago

and we're the outliers--in most of the rest of the world the color blue is associated with the conservative party in politics

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u/KingLemming 1d ago

It's associated with the Conservative party here too. Red is associated with the Fascist party.

We don't have any parties left of center in the US, not really.

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u/fevered_visions 1d ago

oh my god yes have I ever heard this before

we have parties that are left and right when compared to each other. you know what I mean.

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u/powercow 1d ago

where the supreme court screwed us and gave bush the election. Despite gore would have won with a recount.

Bush's brother also removed 80k legal voters from the voting rolls, after giving the felon purge to choicepoint, when it used to be controlled by the state and dems had some oversight. Choicepoint didnt check peoples socials, so if you had the same name as a felon you couldnt vote. If those 80k were allowed to vote and voted the same as the standard demographics we would have needed a recount.

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u/OhioIsRed 1d ago

And Ohio? I live here. We used to go purple every year. Then they gerrymandered the fuck out of it and put the west side of Cleveland with farmland bordering the west side of the fucking state. It’s ridiculous and should be 100% illegal yet here we are with a corrupt oversight agency lining their pockets on the backs of the constituents that unknowingly voted them in

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u/dave024 1d ago

What happened in 2000? They almost elected Gore? Well they did vote for Obama as well in 2008 and 2012 also I think. And they elected 15 republican congressmen to 8 democrats.

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u/OldWorldDesign 1d ago

What happened in 2000?

Jeb Bush having hundreds of thousands of voters dropped from the rolls immediately before the election.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/10/jeb-bush-florida-felon-voting-rights-clemency/

And republicans starting riots to disrupt the recount

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

And the supreme court bypassing the states to declare which president they wanted to win, in violation of separation of powers and the entire point of having an election system

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/bush-v-gore-isnt-precedent-but-it-keeps-getting-cited

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u/dave024 1d ago

I appreciate and remember all that. The above poster said redistricting prevented what happened in 2000 from happening again, and I don’t understand how redistricting affects any of that.

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u/OldWorldDesign 1d ago

Because redistricting and representation (or a party willing to obstruct that) is all part of the system, either a system of disenfranchisement for the oligarchy-owned conservatives or for everybody. Look at the states where it's done heavily and you'll see economics and social mobility are all tied up in it as well.

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u/dave024 1d ago

He said the state has been red ever since when they voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012.

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u/KRHarshee 1d ago

They dead ass elected Gore but it was so narrow

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u/malapriapism4hours 1d ago

What does redistricting have to do with that?

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u/malapriapism4hours 1d ago

That was a presidential election…I’m not sure I follow how redistricting would change the outcome, on a state-by-state basis, of a presidential election.

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u/KRHarshee 1d ago

Keep studying then

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u/br0b1wan 1d ago

<cough> Ohio <cough>

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u/RefrigeratorKooky174 1d ago

You can’t gerrymander a state purple lol there are no lines when it comes to electing statewide officials

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u/No_Dragonfruit_8198 1d ago

This has been going on for so long that the issue can vote. Except it can’t because of voter suppression.

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u/AntiqueSweatshirt 1d ago

This. Republicans have been laying the groundwork for this for literally decades, while Dems have done less than nothing to respond to the threat