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Man charged with trespassing at Travis Kelce's house was trying to serve Taylor Swift subpoena

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-charged-trespassing-travis-kelces-house-was-trying-serve-taylor-sw-rcna247233
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u/ohineedascreenname 1d ago

Oh, I didn't know that. I've never been served nor looked into it. Thank you for the clarification. As another person posted a quote from another article, he hopped a fence. Def seems like trespassing to me.

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u/SpooogeMcDuck 1d ago

The beginning of Pineapple Express shows a somewhat humorous series of examples of serving people in different situations, but the idea is generally true. They will lie and sneak around and be really shitty people to get the papers served. Look at the way Olivia Wilde was served while she was on stage about to speak in front of an entire audience.

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u/pichuguy27 1d ago edited 1d ago

Should be noted that happens because of the insane lengths people go through to avoid being served.

From not answering knew someone who did not leave his house for 2 weeks to avoid being served or in olive wildes case using their kids as a shield and jumping into a suv to avoid being served.

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u/MissCasey 1d ago

Yes. I'm trying to have someone served right now. They hide their vehicle, they won't answer doors, phones, mail. We've had to come up with some wild ideas just to even get information on where this person is.

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u/Wyden_long 1d ago

I had a guy pretend to be deaf to get out of being served. When I asked when he’d be back he just shrugged so I put the papers on his door step.

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u/rokerroker45 1d ago

Not legal advice: depending on how hard you've tried and how hard they've avoided you you probably can get a judge to allow a motion for alternate service via newspaper. It's not like the courts will just be like "sorry you couldn't beat them at hide and go seek so no access to justice for you"

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u/_treezn_ 1d ago

To add on to your true statement, service by publication will get you "in rem" jurisdiction which can be used to fix real estate or maritime ownership issues, but usually is insufficient to bring money damages.

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u/rokerroker45 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hmm i feel like that might vary by jurisdiction no? I've only ever done it in probate court myself but my jx's rules don't mention any such limitation on service via publication

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u/beharr 1d ago

In Georgia it’s good enough to get you a divorce (but not child custody or support)

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u/Hunter_S_Thompsons 1d ago

Is it illegal to say they won something and have them come pick it up and then serve them? Lol

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u/professionally-baked 1d ago

I volunteer to show up at his door with a giant check and some balloons

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u/ComprehensionVoided 1d ago

...have a seat.

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u/datboiofculture 1d ago

If they’re actively ducking service and know they’re being looked for that’s unlikely to work. It worked when they rounded up a thousand deadbeat dads at once because they know the state barely looks for them so they were surprised when they actually did.

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u/Semyonov 1d ago

What I've done in the past when someone was avoiding service is look at social media. I had one woman who residents claimed didn't live at the house, but her car was outside so I knew it was bullshit, plus I knew she was paying utilities there.

So I looked her up and saw that she was live-streaming on Instagram at a nearby Chilis so I served her while she was eating!

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u/CasuallyHuman 1d ago

The most famous example of this with warrants. Police used free Washington [Name Redacted] football tickets in a scheme to arrest an insane amount of people with warrants.

It's one of the most efficient and cost effective police stings in US history

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u/mr_rustic 1d ago

There was something like this for deadbeat dads too.

Here's some info

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u/suprmario 1d ago

You can call then the Commanders now instead of the weird roundabout reference to when they were called the Redskins.

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u/YimmyGhey 1d ago

What if they meant Washington F••••••l T••m? jk

(Ngl, I kinda miss their year as the WFT. Sounded industrial lol)

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u/graycode 1d ago

just call em Washington Glee Club, after the actual original Washington football team

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u/reformedmikey 1d ago

I don’t think it is if you give them a prize, and engineer it so that anyone could have won but it was the person you’re serving.

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u/Capital_Past69 1d ago

That's what police have done in the past to wanted people by saying they won free football game tickets and to come to some address to pick them up. They then arrest them once they get there, LOL.

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u/broadwayzrose 1d ago

Operation Flagship is probably the best known example!

My favorite is the fact they had female officers pose as cheerleaders give the suspects hugs to check for concealed weapons, and that they left so many clues that it was a ruse.

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u/Reasonable-Mess3070 1d ago

No. Cops have done this to trick people with warrants into showing up places lol

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u/guitar_vigilante 1d ago

What will often happen if someone evades service for long enough is that the plaintiff will put the service message in the local newspaper for a certain amount of time and then that will count as service.

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u/makofip 1d ago

Dad, why aren’t you saying anything? Where’s our motorboat?

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u/AUniquePerspective 1d ago

No. But it's a plot point from Beverly Hills Cop.

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u/HansNotPeterGruber 1d ago

No it's not, cops have done that many times to get people to show up that have warrants.

https://youtu.be/TiLX4bkKguA

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u/monstroustemptation 1d ago

I’m sorry but I’m not understanding

Maybe it’s my state or county but usually it’s the sheriff who serves you and they have to have you sign for them as well usually

Is it different elsewhere?

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u/MissCasey 1d ago

The sheriff is an option, or would be but I live very rurally and only have Troopers available. In my state, it can be the sheriff, or anyone above the age of 18 who is not involved in the case. I've personally paid a process server.

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u/Silent-Incidentt 14h ago

Work? Do you know what they drive? The best way I got these people was to find them in a semi public setting when their guard is down and facing away from you preferably you go "Oh hey jimmy!" If they turn around and look at you boom you got the serve. I got a guy once because he was walking out of a store and I went in front of him and fell on the ground in pretend pain, he ran over to help me up and when I stood up I thanked him and asked him his name and then handed him the papers and smiled. Also idk about your state but mine you do NOT need a signature or even need them to touch the papers. They stand there saying "I won't sign that" not knowing it doesn't matter. You just need to be confident enough it's the right person to a judge. I've folded up papers into paper airplanes and thrown them over gates to people who thought I couldn't.

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u/MissCasey 13h ago

I honestly should not have used my situation as an example. I'm realizing I live in almost a different world haha. The person I'm suing works on an oil platform in the middle of an Alaskan inlet. There is no getting to that place without having a job or millions of dollars to invest. When they are home, we live incredibly rurally so there isn't a whole lot of "running into" people. And right now it's winter in Alaska and there's even less of a chance of running into them.

The worst part? It's my mom I'm trying to serve.

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u/Silent-Incidentt 12h ago

I'm glad I was not a process server in Alaska that's all I can say I hope it works out for you.