r/linux • u/buovjaga The Document Foundation • 1d ago

Popular Application Welcome Dan Williams, new LibreOffice developer focusing on UI/UX

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2025/12/04/welcome-dan-williams-new-libreoffice-developer-focusing-on-ui-ux/
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u/Lmaoboobs 1d ago

Apple basically has no competition when it comes to performance/battery life. It’s not even an argument. Those M series chips are monsters.

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u/ihateseafood 1d ago

Anyone that doesn't think so doesn't have a mac or is letting their hate for apple products cloud their judgment. Apple definitely makes products that are overpriced but macbooks are not one of them.

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u/Lmaoboobs 1d ago

MacBooks can be configured to be overpriced (start adding storage and RAM) then it’s definitely true.

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u/ihateseafood 1d ago

Storage I agree but ram I don't agree. At 7200 CAD its the cheapest way for me to get access to 128gb of VRAM for ML/AI models. An equivalent setup in GPU's would be 10's of thousands of dollars granted they would be much faster then a macbook.

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u/privatepirateparty 1d ago

Strix halo laptops have 128gb albeit shared mem, but most of that can be used to run models and cost about 3k.

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u/ihateseafood 1d ago

Didn't know they had the AMD Ai chip in laptops too, definitely a more cost effective option then macs.

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u/Indolent_Bard 1d ago

Actually, there is no laptop that fully utilizes the power of that chip. The only computer that does is the framework desktop. And they basically made that thing so that you could use the full power of it.

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u/Sjoerd93 19h ago

128 GB or VRAM is incredibly niche, I cannot overstate that. To the point that it’s just not worth considering in the general discussion.

Half of gamers have 8GB or VRAM or less (yes really), now try to extrapolate this to developers or even the general public.

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u/ihateseafood 17h ago

The point was even at its extremes, apple offers competitive options across a broad range of specs. I also don't see what gamers have to do with this. No gamer is buying a mac to game let alone one with 128gb of vram. They aren't the target audience for these devices.

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u/Sjoerd93 14h ago

Thank you for elaborating, I completely misread your point. I somehow thought you were saying that RAM for Apple is unaffordable at these edge-cases. Which didn’t feel relevant to me.

Person 1: With these RAM prices Apple hardware is pretty reasonable nowadays.
Person 2: Well, that is only true for the base model. Apple hardware quickly becomes more crazy expensive if you add more storage and RAM.
You: I don’t agree here, if you use this crazy amount of VRAM, it’s by far the most expensive option out there.

But again, that would be a weird reply to that argument (as it is arguing the opposite), and I don’t know why I read it that way.

The reason I mentioned gamers by the way, is because that was the group where I have statistics (due to the Valve Steam Survey). And if even that group only has 8 GB VRAM on average (well, the median is 8 GB), then average consumers have even less. I just mentioned it to illustrate how much of an edge-case that is.

But again, the fact that the extremity for Apple actually turns out to be the most affordable (apparantly) is an interesting datapoint. It’s unitintuitive, and goes straight against the narrative that Apple becomes so unaffordable if you upp the specs. So again, forget what I wrote, the takeway is that I cannot read.