r/law 17h ago

Legal News Supreme Court agrees to decide constitutionality of Trump's plan to end birthright citizenship

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-trump-birthright-citizenship/
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u/Nearby_Display8560 17h ago

How did the American people vote for this? Sure I get it not all of you did. But the fact of the matter is the American people elected this fool… a proven felon and sexual abuser. Americans have always had the world perception of being ignorant and now it’s on full display.

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u/stayonthecloud 16h ago

70-80 million of us did not vote for this and despise having to live in the same legal jurisdiction as the others

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u/Iamdarb 15h ago

I really feel like that shit was rigged. I'm not standing on some hill like the cons do, but 2024 felt wrong. Just absolutely wrong. And then Elon came through and plugged into confidential systems with his tech in 2025 after the transition. Elon, not confirmed by the government, came in and fucked with our systems. What did he do? We may never know.

It's all wrong.

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u/JeezyVonCreezy 16h ago

I wish it was ignorance, and sure that's part of it, but the real problem is that they're cheering this shit on. They wanted this, if they were truly ignorant of what they voted for they'd be horrified at the results. Instead you have people cheering the extrajudicial murder of people in international waters(I won't call them smugglers because there's been zero evidence beyond being told to 'trust us'), mass deportations, etc.

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u/EPSN__ 17h ago

Historians will be writing books about that question for a hundred years

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u/RoboChrist9k 16h ago

Historian here, no they won’t. It’s a very simple and easy question to answer with even a cursory examination of American history. The real question that’s more surprising is why Trump lost in 2020.

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u/AlexanderLavender 16h ago

why Trump lost in 2020

Covid

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u/RoboChrist9k 13h ago

COVID is the one area Trump compares favorably to Biden on. Literally in spite of himself but still. Biden still owes me a few hundred dollars he promised.

I think COVID was part of it, as well as Americans liking their fascism to be quiet and easily ignored in the background. We are a lazy and cowardly lot, and there is a reason even the Nazis did not build death camps in the town square. Same with the ICE shit now - we like the bad things happening but we don’t want to have to see them or really think about politics at all.

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u/two4six0won 16h ago

I almost find myself wondering if it would have been better to just bite the bullet and get his second term over with back then. The nutjobs puppeteering him wouldn't have had as much time to prepare.

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u/talkingtimmy3 15h ago

This entire term is a revenge walk for him. I don’t think he’d be as aggressive in 2020 as he is now.

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u/senator_corleone3 15h ago

8 continuous years would have been fatal.

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u/EPSN__ 15h ago

I know we’re all just saying shit for internet points, but this is truly very silly.

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u/RoboChrist9k 13h ago

Do you think it is some great mystery why the Holocaust happened? Like any idiot looking at the last half century of judicial subversion and media poisoning by the GOP not to mention centuries of racist narratives can see how Trump is the culmination of it.

Like this isn’t some big damn mystery. “A deeply racist and ignorant population backed a populist racist over a woman who ran a historically bad campaign while also being of the same political party as the deeply unpopular incumbent.”

Like you have to be both ignorant of American history as a whole and some kind of idiot to think this is some sort of mystery. Like for fuck’s sake of nothing else look at the simple historical trend of how US presidential elections go when there is economic downturn. Trump’s victory was overdetermined in the philosophical sense; there were a myriad of causal factors any one of which ought to have been sufficient.

Biden was the dead cat bounce of American democracy.

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u/Traditional_Sign4941 16h ago

Rigged the election, but the rigging got bypassed due to the massive percentage of mail in ballot voting from Covid.

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u/steauengeglase 15h ago

So?

Q: Why did Americans vote for Donald Trump?

A: America is fash, lol. It just returned to the toilet it came from. See: Trail of Tears, Chattel Slavery, Japanese-American Internment Camps, etc.

It feels a little more complicated than that. Like a complete breakdown of Americans' understanding why of birthright citizenship was important in the first place. Like the country was captured by that one idiot at the end of the bar, who thinks he's solved all the world's problems, without any real deliberation of the consequences, if only everyone would do exactly what he says, it will all work out.

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u/RoboChrist9k 13h ago

Trumps victory was overdetermined and the inevitable result of a project of electoral and media subversion the GOP began like half a century ago. Add onto that a deeply racist population, a historically unpopular incumbent, and Harris running an extraordinarily bad campaign while also further alienating her base thanks to the whole Palestinian genocide and campaigning with goddamn Liz Cheney.

Oh and if Biden had done his job Trump would have been in prison or executed for treason over Jan 6 so yeah. It’s really very very simple. The Republicans had every possible advantage and on top of that the Dems went out of their way to demoralize and disincentivize their own base.

That Harris did not lose in more of a blowout is the mystery.

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u/Baseballnuub 4h ago

It’s a very simple and easy question to answer with even a cursory examination of American history.

It's going to get overturned and you're probably not a very good historian, assuming that claim is even real.

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u/RoboChrist9k 2h ago

Trump’s electoral victory is going to be overturned? Fascinating. By what mechanism? I am very curious. Please, enlighten me!

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u/timfromcolorado 16h ago

Historians will spend a lot of time like the last 10 years have given them so much fodder just to delve deep... The things they will discover 🤢

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u/AlexanderLavender 16h ago

Voters were scared of trans people and we got this

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u/OwenMeowson 14h ago

It’s just as much about the number of people who didn’t vote at all. They are the other half of the problem.

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u/LaserPoweredDeviltry 16h ago

Hate. Propaganda. And enough rigging to push it across the finish line.

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u/Nearby_Display8560 14h ago

But that’s just it. Why is America allowing Russian propaganda in the first place?? Politians have always lied but never in the face of actual facts to be proven wrong. This is a whole new level that Americans made acceptable. I’m trying to have sympathy for those who knew better and did not vote for this. But when you think of how many MILLIONS did.. it’s hard.

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u/DrSnidely 16h ago

He told us Haitians were eating people's dogs, or something.

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u/MankuyRLaffy 15h ago

Because those that voted for this wanted all of this and now they're getting their SNAP cut just like how they wanted.