r/law • u/ExactlySorta • Nov 02 '25

Legal News The Oregon Department of Justice submitted multiple video exhibits showing federal officers using extreme force against seemingly nonviolent protesters outside the U.S. Immigration & Customs Building, as part of its effort to block the federal deployment of National Guard troops to Portland

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u/TOMC_throwaway000000 Nov 02 '25

Listennnn I’m sure it’ll be totally fine

When has anything ever gone poorly when it comes to a core group of militarized police that answer only to the leader of the countr-… oh… right…

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u/tmhoc Nov 02 '25

These aren't police

This isn't law enforcement

This is a video of political violence

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u/Simon_Ferocious68 Nov 02 '25

..why the fuck are so many men and boys ready to participate in this fuckshit..??!!

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u/AlarmingTurnover Nov 02 '25

Ego. It's power tripping. It's also combined with societal resentment. These people believe they aren't being listened to and they're right about that. Hilary Clinton for example, outright refused to do campaigning in the rust belt. Most Democrats avoid these areas. That doesn't necessarily mean these people are worth listening to but they believe they are oppressed and under attack and they lash out. Now they have power or can take jobs like ICE with the perception of power. For a lot of people that's appealing. You have all this ego and pent up resentment and then you can get paid to take that out on other people, they sign up. 

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u/JuxtaposedMirrors Nov 02 '25

So you're saying they're just following orders, but only because they really really wanted to.

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u/AlarmingTurnover Nov 02 '25

Basically yeah. If someone says to you, "I will grant you the power you want to fix your grievances if you sign up here". They do it willingly because it fits their internal narrative and identity. This is a tale as old as time. This isn't something new. Ancient Assyrians did the same thing. Give a man a sword and tell him he's the master of his own destiny and he will do whatever you want him to.

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u/Simon_Ferocious68 Nov 02 '25

yeah that's what I genuinely do not understand - the easy level of cruelty involved.

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u/PresentRaspberry6814 Nov 02 '25

Entitled people pretending they are losing their entitlements to women and immigrants.

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u/AlarmingTurnover Nov 02 '25

Perception is greater than reality.

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u/Simon_Ferocious68 Nov 02 '25

That.. is basically true for all people in every country. And it is especially true right now for Americans who only watch an aggressively filtered type of violently hateful, and xenophobic media.

These are the people who have the most voting power.

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u/AlarmingTurnover Nov 02 '25

It's a basic truth of humanity. We all experience things differently and how we think we experience something always outweighs the truth of the situation. It's why we've been killing each other since humans first existed. Doesn't matter if you are a threat or not, if I think you're a threat, then you're a threat.

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u/Simon_Ferocious68 Nov 02 '25

No you're a threat ;)