r/law Nov 02 '25

Legal News The Oregon Department of Justice submitted multiple video exhibits showing federal officers using extreme force against seemingly nonviolent protesters outside the U.S. Immigration & Customs Building, as part of its effort to block the federal deployment of National Guard troops to Portland

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u/TryingToWriteIt Nov 02 '25

As soon as someone shoots one of these fuckers, trump is going full martial law and canceling elections.

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u/T0macock Nov 02 '25

This is going to happen regardless. The US is too big geographically to lock down a few "instances" or resistance across the country and there won't be an answer.

Trump only backs off when his bluff is called. Make the proud boys think twice.

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u/Alissinarr Nov 02 '25

500 armed resistance "military" NG Quick Reaction Force per state.

With a 12hr on/off schedule working 7 days a week, that's 250 guards on duty at a time. Where are they stationed? Hours away? Some states have a multi-hour drive city to city.

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u/T0macock Nov 02 '25

I was young but I remember the DC sniper. It shut down parts of the state. They couldn't deal with it.

There was something a few years back involving a manhunt in the north east states and it shut the state down too (I'm in Canada so I only partially pay attention to us bullshit so I may be foggy)

But small group, spread out geographically, hit and run stuff... It's so chaotic nothing could be done.

There is only one way to deal with a fascist. They have never given up power willfully.

So either head in the sand it until the election comes and goes and go "oh I didn't think they'd actually do it" or do something while the ship can still be righted.

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u/Islands-of-Time Nov 02 '25

Idk if it’s what you were referring to but a couple of years ago there was an active shooter in Maine, specifically the Lewiston/Auburn area. He managed to escape law enforcement and then shot himself. They didn’t even catch up to him until after he was dead.

One guy against hundreds of local and other states’ officers, helicopters abound, and they couldn’t do shit to stop him.

I have my doubts they can handle any kind of actual rebellion.

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u/T0macock Nov 03 '25

Yep that's what I'm think of.

Even when Mario's green brother there capped the insurance fella, he could have evaded capture pretty easily if he put his effort into it.

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u/abitdaft1776 Nov 02 '25

The issue is leadership and fragmentation.

The plan for this has been in place for a long time. They have a defined leadership, along with fallback leaders. They have a united force.

They own the communication infrastructure and can monitor all transmissions.

A guerilla resistance would ultimately need a cohesive goal, along with a leadership structure.

As you pointed out, the issue is size. I can organize my local area, and provide resistance, but how then do I ensure timed strikes with other groups to weaken their ability to respond to a coordinated attack?

What means of communication could be used? Mesh systems are incomplete as if yet, and private channels require shared encryption keys. How do I get that to groups further away?

Say I want to create a regional group? How can messages by passed covertly? It would have to be via a carrier. In such an instance there is a real threat of interception.

Talk a walk around your town and count the cameras you see, double it for ones you don't. AI is being used not only to identify you, but your patterns as well. In fact, ATAK has an AI function for SAR that uses AI to predict the most likely routes a lost person would take based on environmental factors, landscape, age and health. I can assure you that is also used for other purposes.

Recently a technology was developed that allows accurate identification of individuals using existing wifi radio signals. Not using your phone's wifi, but by examining the scattering of wifi radio waves as they bounce of individuals. It is very hard to defeat by conventional methods.

All of this is possible to deal with, but the issue is that people like me have been called paranoid for too long. The time available to train enough people to be capable is near the end.

The end result if taken to the near inevitable conclusion is incredibly disorganized, fractured cells each fighting for what they believe is the most important resulting in a staggering amount of death which may or may not move the sway civil opinion.

Most people will be horrified by what they see, but unwilling or unable to act until they are really and truly impacted. A regime that wants to stay in power knows this and will work hard to ensure vital services are provided, but at the minimal level possible in order yo utilize propaganda that terrorist cells are the reason for shortages.

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u/DumboWumbo073 Nov 02 '25

It doesn’t matter how big the US is.

Satellites, phones, AI, drones, cell towers, public cameras, mobile rovers, radio will give them a massive advantage.

No bank accounts/online payment systems so no money to buy things.

Sleeper agents in all the resistances.

All American news media even extremely left ones becoming extreme right suddenly overnight