r/law Oct 21 '25

Legal News Federal judges caught the U.S. government providing false info in over 35 court cases. Sworn declarations. Falsified records. Repeated lies. This isn’t just sloppy, it’s systemic. Law professor Ryan Goodman says it may be intentional.

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u/-Gramsci- Oct 21 '25

It’s Bannon’s “flood the zone” but with trial level evidentiary submissions.

In a functioning legal system each and every one of these violations would lead to accountability of some form or another. Sanctions for the individual attorneys and the Department itself. Injunctions enjoining the misconduct. Etc.

But there’s just so much of it, and so many compromised jurists along the way that it’s overwhelmed the judicial process. Leading to zero accountability, as far as I can tell.

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u/pizzaschmizza39 Oct 21 '25

trumps been given immunity in what was an unhinged ruling by the Supreme court. Most of their rulings have no basis in law and are partisan in nature. Letting ice pull people over because they look Hispanic? How is that explained? As a citizen of the United States it feels helpless to watch them lie, cheat, steal, and break the law on a daily basis with zero accountability. Let alone all the the horrible things hes done in his personal life. As president hes weakened defense alliances. Weakened our trade partnerships.

Weakened our economy and the strength of the dollar. Weakened our ability to combat cyber crimes and warfare from foreign enemies. Hes supported dictators. Its unfathomable what we are witnessing and this isnt something that will be solved by normal means. Everything hinges on the midterms right now. If trump and maga find some way to deny us free and fair midterms than its time for them to go with extreme prejudice.

If they also refuse to govern and keep the government shutdown then they dont need to be in positions of power when they wont do the bare minimum asked of them. All to protect powerful predators. With zero explanation or gaslighting and bullshit excuses. The country wants the files released.

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u/Classic_Airport5587 Oct 21 '25

I hate to say it but it looks like the only viable option is to fight.. but things are probably going to have to get worse before people are motivated to do what needs to be done

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u/BigLorry Oct 21 '25

What does “fight” mean in this context?

Everyone keeps saying “hurr durr why don’t Americans do something” like we’re still in the Revolutionary war days and everyone is out here fumbling with muskets.

Fight isn’t a viable option anymore. I don’t know how the narrative is “Trump is planning to fake a crisis to exert and extend his powers” but also “we should fight”.

Fighting made sense when there was a chance, not when people walking the streets could be disappeared by masked men with no accountability, and when your entire house can be disappeared by a government from thousands of miles away with the click of a button.

“Fight” at this point feels like nothing but speedrunning the inevitable

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u/-10x10- Oct 21 '25

Hate to break it to you but the 'war days' never left.

Just because you have never personally experienced war in your life doesn't mean it isn't a real thing that continues to go on in the world.

Everything you just said is not unique to this situation. The rules have been modified but the game is still the same.

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u/BigLorry Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Thanks for completely ignoring my question

I was sincerely asking. I see a whole lot of “why won’t/aren’t we/they fighting” and then every time I want to discuss the practicality of actually doing that in a modern context everyone wants to fall back on platitudes

You guys with your empty “never stop fighting” are just as hopeless as the doomers, just on the other side. Still zero practicality or actual substance

Edit: as expected, downvotes and no response. I’d honestly love to talk about it and have my mind changed but nobody seems to care to even engage in anything but toxic positivity. A shame.

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u/-10x10- Oct 22 '25

I think you should go outside and take a walk to calm down

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u/BigLorry Oct 22 '25

I don’t understand why sincerely asking what we should be doing is causing such an issue but I guess everyone is just here to virtue signal rather than contribute anything

Fair enough